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Sep 15, 2021 12:56:27   #
3507 wrote:
Read what Trump said. Hear it on the tape (on the internet). Reference: Bob Woodward's book _Rage_ (even just the first few pages). Bob Woodward's one of the two guys who exposed Watergate (that was when Nixon was president), risked decades of imprisonment to do it, and is now a national hero because of exposing Nixon and the Watergate scandal. He's been writing about more recent presidents ever since.

If somebody gets a 90% negativity rating, does that mean the rating must be false? Does that mean the rated person must really be good? Trump had little (if any) experience governing and had never held public office before. It's no surprise that someone in that situation would do poorly, and get very bad ratings, as president of the U.S. With his low level of experience, if he had been a good president it would have been like a miracle. Contrary to what some on the Right will tell you, government is not just a nothing job. (Also, inheriting lots of money and using your wealth to bully people is not good enough experience for the job of president.) Governing well actually takes experience, and knowledge about governing, and connections to people built up over years, and trust, and cooperation. Without all that, you can have a dictator or an armed i**********n (both things that seem to appeal to the Right) or possibly some kind of mob rule or anarchy (also appealing to the Right), but you can't have a good government, unless: If there were a president who's humble enough to know his limitations and would follow guidance from more experienced people, and know when to be silent rather than to spew careless falsehoods or needlessly h**eful rhetoric, then that could still be a good president even without experience etc. Humility (being humble in a wise way) is worth a lot. But Trump didn't have that saving grace.

And the root problem is not necessarily Mr. Trump himself. He was doing his thing, playing his game, very likely not expecting to actually win the presidency, but just expecting to increase his brand exposure. (Reference: _Fire and Fury_, by Michael Wolff, for example on page 11.) The Republican Party failed to save both him and us, from him being one of the "leaders of the free world". There is something about the Republican Party that makes these kinds of presidencies happen. Aside from not liking Mr. Trump, and blaming Mr. Trump, also I feel sorry for him. And I blame the Republican Party. Its experienced leaders should have known better than to make Trump their candidate for the presidency. Because of their neglect, he found himself in a job he wasn't ready for and didn't know how to handle.

Trump himself is partly to blame for it. I've made a lot of mistakes in my life, but one of them I haven't made, yet, is running for President of the U.S. when I'm not ready to actually do the job. You can thank me for at least not doing that.
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Ronald Reagan called Bob Woodward a liar. Woodward’s critics have said that he typically decides on what story he wants to tell, then tells that story, even if the facts say something different. Woodward claims members of Trump’s administration said bad things about him; but those members deny having said the words Woodward put into their mouths.

Big Media’s coverage of Trump has been 90% negative. Is that fair? Well, let’s look at what Trump did.
-Renegotiated bad/unfair trade deals
-Partially secured the southern border
-Made it so that you couldn’t immigrate then immediately go on welfare
-Greatly reduced immigration
-Destroyed ISIS
-Lowered prescription drug prices
-Lowered Obamacare premiums
-Lowered taxes, including on middle class
-Energy independence and low gas prices

Compare that to his negatives
-Large deficits
-Failed to end NSA spying directed against Americans
-Failed to drain the swamp at the DoJ.
-Failed to provide an alternative healthcare plan to Obamacare.

Note that Big Media didn’t complain about his actual negatives, or praise him for his many positives. Why not complain about the actual negatives? Because Democrats have absolutely no intention of fixing any of those problems. Instead their criticisms involved made-up stuff (Russian collusion) or irrelevancies (Tweets) that they'd misrepresented.
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Sep 15, 2021 12:34:53   #
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
"More dangerous to our well being and our country" than who? The r****rs who attacked the c*****l p****e?

Are you sure you actually mean that?


Why wouldn’t he mean that?

The Biden administration and Congressional Democrats are behaving like a hostile occupation government.

When your nation gets conquered, sometimes your people get replaced with the invader’s people. Biden has opened the southern border, allowing that demographic replacement to occur.

When you get invaded the invader wants to seize your wealth. Biden and the Democrats want $3.5 trillion in new spending (seizing wealth), paid for by a massive tax increase and by borrowing. Borrowing can be a way of stealing from today’s children, because you are imposing a debt on them while giving them nothing in return.

An invading army would want to disarm the local populace, to make them easier prey. On the one hand the Democrats oppose Second Amendment rights and self-defense rights, preventing citizens from defending themselves. They defund the police, preventing the police from defending you. Blue cities often give a slap on the wrist to people who own illegal guns. Criminals can own weapons; law-abiding citizens can’t.

Democrats turned a blind eye towards the wave of violence which swept the nation as a result of the above-mentioned policies. They turned a blind eye to the roughly 20 people murdered and hundreds injured or maimed as a result of the G****e F***d protests. They are destroying small businesses with lockdowns and new taxes. They are behaving like an enemy which wishes to impose tyranny, oppression, demographic replacement, and poverty. They are far, far more dangerous than a group of people protesting a stolen 2020 e******n.
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Sep 5, 2021 22:38:48   #
3507 wrote:
I tried watching the MyPillowGuy (Mike Lindell) video several weeks ago. I got maybe a third of the way through it.

Somehow I encountered a lengthy, signed, court document, online, from an Arizona case about the e******n, and read some of that. I thought it was illuminating. I have a link to it, if it's still there, and have posted the link on OPP in the past.

We can see some of the characteristics of this argument about Trump "winning" the e******n. For example, the Arizona document described how the Trump side abandoned or dismissed their own cases before they got to the point where they would have to show their evidence or make sworn statements in court. As for Mike Lindell, he goes on and on about what evidence he's got, but either doesn't show the evidence, or shows some half-baked thing that doesn't really work to prove anything.

Some Trump supporters go so far as to say Trump is winning most of his cases in court. What I read and believe is the opposite. What I think's happening is you've got Trump and a lot of Trump followers who either just copy what he says or don't really know what they're doing, and all that's on one side; then on the other side you've got the entire judiciary of the United States saying the Trump side argument is worthless.
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Some points to consider:
1. The Texas case was strong enough nearly 20 states signed on. The Supreme Court dismissed it on a manufactured technicality.
2. There are 900 fact witnesses to e******n f***d.
3. There was no legitimate reason for a group of Democrat-controlled swing states to stop counting their v**es on e******n night.
4. Biden is claimed to have won all the swing states which stopped counting their v**es.
5. Statistical anomaly 1: Biden did much better in the states which stopped counting than you’d expect based on how he did in bellwether states which upheld the tradition of providing results on e******n night.
6. Statistical anomaly 2: some areas experienced massive inexplicable increases in their v**es, especially four cities in particular. (Including Philadelphia, Madison, and Detroit.)
7. In some areas there were more v**es cast than there were people of v****g age.
8. In a district in Michigan D******n v****g machines flipped a high percent of v**es from Republicans to Democrats. D******n claimed this was due to a bug that affected that one district only, and that the bug had been fixed. They provided no evidence in support of that claim. No third party was brought in to evaluate the veracity of the claim. We simply believed them when they said that the one time they got caught was the one and only time they were guilty.
9. Mark Zuckerberg spent $375 million on having e******n procedures altered.
10. E******n procedures were altered, often illegally, in ways which removed security measures. As a consequence we saw mail in b****ts, b****t harvesting, b****t drop boxes, and elimination of v**er ID requirements. V**e counting locations and procedures were altered to make it more difficult for observers to observe.
11. According to software the U.S. used to monitor the legitimacy of foreign e******ns, the 2020 e******n was s****n.
12. The Supreme Court’s dismissal of the Texas case on a fabricated technicality was part of a larger pattern. Courts found all kinds of excuses to dismiss cases without looking at the evidence. No evidentiary hearings were conducted. No audits were performed prior to Biden being proclaimed president.
13. In the one case when an audit was conducted (Maricopa County) massive fraud was found and it became clear Arizona had been stolen.
14. Maricopa County obstructed justice by refusing to hand over subpoenaed routers or other electronic devices. While we now know Arizona was stolen we do not know the extent of the fraud.
15. Electronic v****g machines are able to connect to the Internet, as are the computers used to tabulate the v**es from those machines.
16. In Pennsylvania there have been anomalies with mail in b****ts. Mail in b****ts sent back the day they were sent out, hundreds of thousands more received than were sent out, fact witnesses to b****ts being trucked in from New York State.
17. Trump received millions of more v**es in 2020 than in 2016. He received a higher percentage of the black and Latino v**e than had any Republican candidate in decades. A Democrat winning under such circumstances is not just unusual: it is flat-out impossible.
18. Before the Democrat-controlled swing states (along with RINO-controlled Georgia) stopped counting their v**es, the statistical probability of a Biden win was vanishingly small. Biden’s “comeback” after E******n Day was a miracle.

So, I’m supposed to have faith in the validity of this e******n because . . . ?
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Aug 23, 2021 14:43:16   #
Kitten Courageous wrote:
Little Willie, I have 600 years of experience over you. I just want the land you stole from my people returned in its original order.


I don’t know if you’re lying about being a Native American. But I do know this: it is easy to mistake the Left’s hostility towards the white race as friendliness towards non-w****s. However the two concepts are not interchangeable. Eradicating the white race in the New World through replacement immigration and other measures is not the same as restoring land to Native Americans. The gravest humanitarian crisis facing the world is Third World overpopulation and associated disease and famine. The Left’s focus is not on reducing Third World fertility rates, so much as it is on the critical theory/critical race theory objective of using a portion of that population surplus to remake the demographics of formerly white nations. If large numbers of nonw****s in the Third World starve, the Left would not seem to care.
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Aug 23, 2021 14:27:49   #
Below is a list of many of the Left’s crimes against humanity, starting with 1900:

WWI food blockade of Germany and Austria (artificial famine)
Versailles Treaty which imposed severe hunger on Weimar Republic Germany
Ukrainian famine (artificial famine) which k**led an estimated 7 million innocent people.
Western democratic governments’ and media outlets’ efforts to cover up the Ukrainian famine
Anglo-American blockade of German-held Europe during WWII (artificial famine) which k**led tens of millions of innocent civilians
Extermination bombing raids against German and Japanese cities
Use of nuclear weapons against Japanese cities
“Shoot anything that moves” air raids conducted in the German countryside
Operation Keelhaul, which resulted in millions of refugees from the Soviet Union handed back over to Stalinist control for incarceration or murder
Mass murder of German POWs in postwar era
Artificial famine imposed on Germany after WWII (JCS 1067).
Overall track record of mass murder by USSR
Overall track record of mass murder by Maoist c*******t China
The Western democracies’ left’s total indifference to those mass murders

So . . . remind me again about how the Left is supposedly kinder/less likely to engage in murder than the Right?
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Aug 23, 2021 10:54:52   #
peg w wrote:
Do you want to be the surgeon who operates on a patient and see that person die a week later of C***d because he has a suppressed i****e s****m? Quite frankly, if I was a doctor, I would refuse treatment to any patient who refused v******tion.
About the v*****es, We have given over 350, 000, 000 shots, just in the US. I'm sorry, but anyone who says this v*****e is untested faills to see that it passed quite a big test, on us, here for the past 8 mounths. It is safe and effective. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't belive in science.
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I’d like to focus on the last sentence of your post. Science is based on the following process. 1) Someone proposes a hypothesis, which is a reasonably intelligent guess. 2) Experiments are conducted to try to falsify the hypothesis. 3) The more the hypothesis can survive efforts at falsification the more evidence is in its favor.

Anyone engaging in lying, manipulation of data, censorship, or inserting a political agenda is embracing the opposite of science. It is always scientific, at least within reason, to say more data are needed. It is always anti-scientific, at least when data are limited, to declare that the science is settled and that those with opposing views must be censored or punished.

There are times when rejecting science in favor of ideology or religion might actually make sense. But it is far from obvious why a C****a shot (it is not a v*****e) should be one of those times.
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Aug 20, 2021 17:20:22   #
youngwilliam wrote:
I don't understand the N**I mentality of some of these people. Such an air of superiority just like the N**IS. SIEG HEIL


At least the N**is had some accomplishments to justify their air of superiority. Upon coming to power Hitler did the following:

-Rebuilt the German economy, allowing Germany the ability to adequately feed its own people
-Rebuilt the German military, giving it some ability to match Soviet military capacity.
-Greatly improved worker wages, allowing German workers a decent standard of living
-Improved workplace safety standards
-Reduced the workweek to 40 hours for industrial labor
-Greatly improved clean air and clean water standards
-An anti-smoking campaign
-The creation of the Autobahn
-The world’s most advanced rocket program and jet engine program
-Extended vacations and subsidized travel for German workers, allowing them to see much of the world
-improved physical fitness for the German people

Compare that with the accomplishments of relatively recent Democratic presidents.

Clinton:

- together with Gingrich balanced the budget
-Good economy
-Internet boom

Obama:
-CARD Act prevented many predatory credit card practices
-Recharging stations for electric cars
-Obamacare forced insurance companies to cover those with preexisting conditions

Biden:
- Got us out of an unwinnable and unnecessary war in Afghanistan. Granted the pullout was handled about as badly as it could have been.

There are simply not enough accomplishments on any of those three Democrats’ lists to justify an air of superiority.
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Aug 20, 2021 16:20:47   #
jimpack123 wrote:
fair the person has a choice make your choice and live with it period


If I put a gun to someone’s head, and if I say, “Either get the C****a shot or I pull the trigger,” is that a “fair choice” or is it coercion?
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Aug 20, 2021 15:21:43   #
One president whose name should at least be mentioned in a thread like this is Woodrow Wilson. Below are some of the reasons why:

-Got the U.S. into WWI
-Food blockade on Germany during and after the war. (The postwar blockade was to force Germany to sign the Versailles Treaty.) Depending on whose estimate you believe, the wartime portion of the food blockade caused 300,000 - 800,000 civilian deaths.
-Versailles Treaty
-No aid to Poland despite the U.S.S.R.’s invasion/attempted annexation in 1920.
-No method of preventing Soviet expansionism into Eastern or Central Europe, beyond hoping the Polish could defend themselves without help from the West (which they did).
-German military limited to token size; no limits on Soviet military capacity.
-German economy and ability to feed its own people crippled by Versailles.
-Created the Federal Reserve
-Constitution amended to allow income tax; federal income tax instituted with Woodrow Wilson’s full approval.
-Created the League of Nations
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Aug 20, 2021 15:12:38   #
woodguru wrote:
When intelligent people see red state hospitals filling up faster than blue states, and the reality points to more than 90% of those hospitalized being unv******ted, the person using their brains gets v******ted.


It’s not that simple. While the C****a shot appears to be reasonably effective at reducing symptoms, it may actually leave people more vulnerable to wild or mutated variants. This problem occurred when they tried making v*****es for a number of other v***ses. The v*****e would work great against the lab version but would decrease immunity to “wild” strains. The problem is called ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement).

Did the pharmaceutical companies overcome this problem WRT the C****a shot? We don’t know because they have chosen not to release data on that subject. If they didn’t solve the problem, as the v***s continues to mutate, people who got the C****a shot could be more vulnerable than those who didn’t get the shot.
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Aug 20, 2021 13:03:23   #
BigJim wrote:
The supply of donor organs is limited. People waiting for t***splants die every day. Giving an organ to someone who is at risk of dying from C***D when you could give it to someone with less the risk is immoral. This is the principal of triage, used in ER's and field hospitals, where attention is first given to those who will die if not treated, not attending to those who will die anyway or those who will not die if unattended. It maximizes the years of life that the t***splant provides society.
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You are essentially making a statistical argument. People with a lower statistical death risk should be ahead in line of those more likely to die. For the sake of argument let’s accept that as a basic premise. The question then becomes: to what extent does the man in question increase his statistical likelihood of dying in the next five years if he refuses the C****a shot? Maybe, maybe there is an argument to be made for bumping his name down a few slots on the list. (Though as the long-term effects of the C****a shot are not known even this is uncertain.) There is not a statistically-based argument to be made for striking his name from the list completely. The latter course is not based on a policy of allocating scarce organs to where they can do the most good.
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Aug 20, 2021 12:29:27   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
proud, I still don't understand why so many Republicans refuse to take this life saving v*****e. It will protect your life, and the lives of those close to you. Those that refuse this v*****e no matter what, should be isolated. If I was a surgeon, I would refuse to operate on anybody that remains unv******ted as well. Maybe their life doesn't much to those that refuse the v******tion, but my life means a great deal to me. I don't know how many years I have left, but I want every one of them. As far as I'm concerned, people have a right to drive their cars a hundred miles an hour off a cliff, as long as it doesn't endanger others. They do not have the right to drive their car into a crowd, which is exactly what they are doing by their i***tic refusal to become v******ted. I say, to hell with them!
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The case against getting the v*****e is made here: https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-c***d-v*****e

I’d be curious as to how many of those points the pro-v*****e people are able to refute with empirical data. I personally try to follow where the data lead.

As for the rest of your post: either the v*****e works or it doesn’t. If it does, then a person with the v*****e should not be concerned about being exposed to someone without the v*****e. If it doesn’t work then why get it? Either way there is no justification for coercion.
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Aug 20, 2021 12:09:50   #
In your opinion, who was or is the worst president ever? What bad deeds pushed that president to the top of your list?
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