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May 3, 2020 21:39:32   #
rumitoid wrote:
I agree. That is a perfect rejection of the Patriot Act. But temporary social distancing and stay-at-home regulations or guidelines are not giving up "essential liberty": that is a false and silly premise. In times of crisis, we need to remember service and sacrifice for our nation as a whole. No one liked the enforced rationing during WWII, yet they carried on as patriots for the overall good of our country. No armed protesters demanding, like this crowd of protesters now, more sugar and coffee. It was their "right" to demand it but a wrong for the nation.
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Excellent quote and insight.
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May 3, 2020 21:30:06   #
American Vet wrote:
Provide proof - and your anti-freedom rants are not proof.


For one who believes, no proof is necessary. For one who does not believe, no proof is possible. I've just provided you with the proof. Yet, you're not listening. Hoaaarmmm...
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May 3, 2020 21:09:50   #
lindajoy wrote:
So very true Rose, I mean it seems common sense doesn’t it? Do we just sit around waiting for this v***s to finally dissipate which never will, it will always be here now, it’s gotten here it’s in our bodies and it will stay in our bodies or it’s not in our bodies and we may get it with another v***s next year.

We need a proactive approach to rectifying the situation rather than sitting around doing nothing. The good Lord protects those who protect themselves...

Lives have bern ruined or near devastation.. For most of us our survival instincts kick in and we challenge that which threatens us... Lay down and wait for death and die if you want, we are not willing to just give ip!!! God Bless us one and all...
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USA will have a harder time dissipating th v***s with its 1 million + cases. But not those in new zealand, taiwan, south korea, hong kong, and china. The v***s in these areas are basically non-existent. You would need a real cure if you want the v***s to be gone in your land. Good Luck with that.
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May 3, 2020 19:40:33   #
Parky60 wrote:
Based on what I said, the ones living free will understand any risks and take precautions accordingly while the ones living in fear can freely live cooped up "safely" in their houses. Personally, I am willing to take precautions and risk my life to live free. To live free means to take risks, you and I take them every day without dying. Nobody is forcing you to live fearfully cooped up in your house to avoid a perceived threat. It would be your choice. Just like it would be my choice to live free. It's just that your right to live in fear does not trump my right to live free or make my own choices. You're being conditioned to view our freedom as selfish. Our freedom is a right, not a privilege.
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The precautions you need so you don't get sick is you need to cover yourself from head to foot with personal protective equipment. And you would have to not touch it with your hands any part of it. I mean it! Then you would not have to pee, piss, or poop. If you would have to, you would have to first decontaminate yourself AND replace the whole thing again. And replace it again after every 4 hours. You make a mistake in any of it, you WILL get the v***s. And, depending on your condition, you will get the symptoms and get sick. And if you're unlucky, you'll die and you'll die alone with no one to bury and grieve for you and without a grave. That is your fate. And, others may end up like you if you become careless for a minute.
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May 3, 2020 19:26:00   #
American Vet wrote:
That doesn’t even make sense. Explain - if you can.


Again. Your argument, as i perceive it, is the c****av***s spread and overwhelming of healthcare only happens in NYC and not elsewhere. And therefore, the conclusion is, open up as if there's nothing there. I don't want to grasp to that conclusion because it could also be that it is not like NYC because it's not like NYC yet. And if we remove restrictions, WHEN CASES OF INFECTION AND DEATH ARE STILL RISING, could mean that these places that are not like NYC yet COULD BECOME LIKE NYC "SOON". And we only realize it when it already happens and we're already there. But it's too late.
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May 2, 2020 20:18:08   #
GoCubs wrote:
So true. You stay smart and safe too. I see you're a new user (as I am). I joined this circus about a week ago out of boredom. Wish I hadn't. I don't know when you joined (these are first posts from you I've seen so I'm guessing quite recently?) but one thing I've noticed in the short time I've been here is this: you will get ripped for speaking sensical. It seems there are far more dumbasses on this forum that choose to ignore science and aiding their fellow man than there are prudent thinking people who actually grasp the bigger perspective. My theory on this is that most intelligent people are too smart to join this inane forum in the first place (I never claimed to be smart). Keep up the good fight bro. Just remember that the readers you are trying to reach are not exactly MENSA members. Thanks for the great posts. Refreshing to know someone out there actually gets it.
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Yo Man. I'm cool. Thanks for the compliment. At least it helps to get our voices out there. So they won't have the stupid idea that they are the ones who are always correct. Someone may be reading this, and think they're correct. So yeah. I'm cool. I'm new. I just signed up yesterday.
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May 2, 2020 20:00:29   #
Rose42 wrote:
How about it? If you're so scared of the possibility of getting a v***s that the VAST majority recover from - and don't need hospitalization - then stay home and live in a bubble where you'll never get sick. But you'll also just exist you won't live. It seems more and more people just want to exist.

You have swallowed the propaganda hook, line and sinker. You are now primed for a police state.


You have evidence that it is c****av***s 2019 they've caught? Have they been tested for c****av***s? This sickness is a t*****r. You cough, sneeze, runny nose, and fever. And you thought it's the flu. Then the fever get's high and then it's harder to breathe and you're gasping for air. You feel like drowning. Then it's c***d all along.

I'm a conservative. I believe in the declaration. But we are under attack. And our guns are useless in this case. The only weapon we have are sanitation, lockdowns, testing, isolation facilities, sanitation, PPE's, and healthcare system.
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May 2, 2020 19:46:27   #
American Vet wrote:
And that’s your scenario. And, except for a few hospitals in primarily NYC being hit hard, it didn’t happen.


And. Are we gonna wait for it all to happen until we believe it all happens? How sad...
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May 2, 2020 19:39:21   #
GoCubs wrote:
You are talking to a wall bro. They don't get it. Nor will they until it's far too late. Hell, they don't even believe in science. They don't understand or believe in testing, contact tracing or anything else that would help us pull ourselves out of this more quickly. Even worse, they don't care about you or me or ANY of their fellow countrymen. It's "everyone for themselves" in their eyes. They have a great opportunity to step up and help their fellow man, yet they willingly choose to do the opposite. It truly is unbelievable. Hopefully, they'll start understanding next Autumn when they see the great damage their cavalier attitudes caused. Thanks for the two great posts!
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That's just sad...
Lots of people suffering and dying needlessly and senselessly...
What a tragedy...
Well, you're welcome. Man.
You take care now. Yo.
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May 2, 2020 19:29:17   #
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
As a matter of fact, I routinely spot errors in grammar and spelling on spell checked posts. Of course, I used to be a proofreader for a small publishing company.
Actor Kevin Sorbo posted what could be considered a refutal to your claims:

Everybody please WAKE UP!!

When the State tells you it's safe to go to Home Depot to buy a sponge but dangerous to go and buy a flower and when the State shuts down millions of private businesses but doesn’t lay off a single government employee, it's not about your health.



When the State prevents you from buying cucumber seeds because it's dangerous, but allows in person lottery ticket sales and When the State tells you it's dangerous to go golf or fish alone but they can get make up and hair done for 5 TV appearances, it's not about your health.



When the state puts you IN jail for walking in a park with your child because it’s too dangerous but let’s criminals OUT of jail for their health and when the state tells you it’s dangerous to get treated by a doctor yet says a liquor stores essential it’s not about your health!



When the State lets you go to the grocery store or hardware store but is demanding mail-in v****g, ITS NOT ABOUT YOUR HEALTH.

WAKE UP PEOPLE — If you think this is all about your health you’re mistaken! Please open your eyes! Stop being lead like blind sheep.
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It is about health. It is about saving lives. It's about less people infected, and less people dying. It's about making sure the only number of people getting sick are only the ones we can manage. You are not learning on what happened in Italy. Hospitals are forced to choose who gets treated and not. It's eugenics on the spot. Is that what you want? Suit yourself.
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May 2, 2020 19:21:05   #
Parky60 wrote:
Concerning C***D and the fear of me giving you C***D and you losing your life the question appears...So, your right to live in fear trumps my constitutional rights to live free? You are perfectly within your rights to somehow quarantine yourself if you fear losing your life but consider that every day, we all take risks without fear that could end our lives but we’re still alive and yet nothing is ever said of that.


How about if you get s**k of the disease? And the persons you've infected get s**k of the disease? And the person they've infected get s**k of the disease? And all of you get to the hospital all at the same ttime. Buut the hospital tells you, there's no room and no one available to help you or the others wiith you? Then your family members and friends get sick? Where will you all go? You're breathing profusely. You have a high fever. Your family and friends are as sick as you. No more doctors and hospitals. Because there's no more room because there's just too many people as sick as you? So much for your freedom and constitutional rights.
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May 2, 2020 19:06:03   #
The problem with the c****av***s 2019 is that it is highly infectious. One person can infect two more and they in turn can infect two more. It's exponential. And it takes time for the symptoms to appear. So you could be walking the streets, not knowing you have it. Then you spit, cough, or sneeze. Then droplets from your mouth that could carry the v***s will fly away and be breathed in by others or stay in the air or drop in hand rails or tables or chairs or somewhere else. Then someone touches it unknowingly. Then touches their nose, eyes, or mouth. Then they get infected. And could potentially spread it to others. It takes 2 to 14 days for symptoms to appear. That's a lot of time to infect a lot of people. Then suddenly, cases of sick people spike up fast. Hospitals are overwhelmed. Doctors, nurses, and medical staffs, overwhelmed by the sheer number, themselves get sick, reducing the number of medical staff available to tend the sick. This leaves more sick people with no medical staff available to tend for them. This is the doomsday scenario. People getting sick with no hhosputals, doctors, and nurses to tend or care for them. They are left out to die. Left out to die while infecting others. And no one to bury them properly.
You can convince yourself of your confirmation bias. But do so at your own peril.
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May 2, 2020 18:46:56   #
Wrong. The purpose of the quarantine is, FIRST, to control the spread. And SECOND, to allow other medical procedures necessary to control the spread to occur. Like, social distancing, street sanitation, contact tracing, and mass testing. Lockdowns work. New Zealand did it. Taiwan did it. South Korea did it. Hong Kong did. And yes, China did it. These countries and places used to report high rates of infection. But because of the measures they have taken, they have now reported no new cases of the c****av***s and have eased restrictions. In contrast, the United States have reported 1 million+ cases of the v***s. 200,000+ higher than all the cases of next top 4 countries combined. Spain, Italy, UK, and France. You can keep pretending the problem does not exist. You can keep making this about partisan politics. But the fact of the matter is, your country is under attack. It's from another species in the animal kingdom. It's small and invisible. But it's out for blood. It has NO v*****e or cure. It enters your body into your lungs to terrorize and devastate your lung cells; then your liver cells; then allow other attackers to get inside your body too and poison your blood. Your inside soldiers will fight as they can. But without help, they will be overwhelmed. And your body left defenseless. The invaders will terrorize and devastate any cell they can devastate. Until the damage is too much. Then you die.
The people of W***n, China are still scared of the disease even after their government told them that the disease is gone. While US of A is railing to open up with infections still rising and death still occuring. Go Ahead. Dig your own country's grave. It's just a big tragedy to see it all happen.
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May 2, 2020 03:57:59   #
Dennis Prager. All I can say is, LOCKDOWNS WORK! "UNTIL IT'S SAFE" means "The CDC criteria of falling number of c***d cases for the next consecutive 14-day! "UNTIL IT'S SAFE" means NEW ZEALAND, TAIWAN, VIETNAM, SOUTH KOREA, HONG KONG, & CHINA! They have reported very low to zero new cases and fatalities to c****-**. And are now opening up and easing restrictions from the lockdown. Why? BECAUSE IT'S NOW F'ing SAFE! Aren't you ashamed of yourself? You're putting people's lives and health at risk with your anti-intellectual feelings and narcissistic take? The USA now has 1 million c***d cases and more people dying because of it. Your country has an 800,000+ difference from countries like Spain, Italy, UK, and France! Your country is the epicenter of the disease and you're telling people not to think about it? People are dying! People are getting sick! And you undermine the threat! And pretend the problem doesn't exist! How could you! If you want America to open up, CREATE A CURE AND A V*****E! VISIT A C***D PATIENT AND LISTEN TO THEIR STORIES! LEARN WHAT C****AV***S IS AND WHY IT'S SO DEADLY! If you have no solution to the problem other than making it worse, STFU! It's not liberals or democrats who are giving the information, it's hardline down-the-mill, apolitical scientists all over the world who are giving the facts. Even the pope himself and the catholic church are on lockdown, but poor old dennis prager is too good for it? At least the pope went on pilgrimage on foot to pray for the c***d victims. How about you? What did you do? Other than complain. You are acting just like the champagne socialist who pretend to love the poor but are only green with envy for the rich. You only pretend to care about freedom, but only want to have your narcissistic life back. Well you may get it back, but you'll lose your life to c***d and infect others because of it. Government may limit your freedom, but c***d19 will take your life cold blood. And your guns will NOT protect you.
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