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Sep 13, 2019 17:29:13   #
teabag09 wrote:
Actually he is serving an extremely important service right now. At the time it's needed. He's uncovering the evil that lurks thorough out our govt as well as others around the world. You fit in that group. Bye, bye soon. Mike


Which group is that Mike, since you know me so well!
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Sep 9, 2019 23:00:46   #
proud republican wrote:
He could of volunteered.....


He could have volunteered but did not. That does not evoke unpatriotic behavior. He didn’t evade. He simply didn’t volunteer. Did you?
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Sep 9, 2019 22:38:46   #
rumitoid wrote:
Big difference when there isn't a draft. Trump got five deferments to avoid serving for our country. I am pretty sure that you remember back in that day, Conservatives consider it anti-American. They had a genuine hatred for people who pulled that un-patriotic crap. Now he is deity of Republicans? In the Don's word: "Sad!"


I wouldn’t say he is a deity. He is attacked on a continual basis, IMHO, which causes his personality issues to exhibit what he considers his “strengths” and counter even the most minute detail. He doesn’t have the temperament to resist or step back and think, considering other responses. I won’t make excuses. Just saying he is the one we elected and we have who we have as long as we have him. My brother avoided the draft. I enlisted. We had problems after my return from overseas, but I didn’t h**e him. But then he didn’t make excuses either. We had to work those things out.

I don’t get the blue/red thing, the lib/con thing. And I grew up in a political family. I always noticed that we mostly worked together for the good of the community. I still do that but I have my opinions which I give when asked. Usually I keep my mouth shut a lot and listen. I don’t fight at the drop of a hat but I can stand up for myself. Tolerance of others goes a long way toward a serene life. I prefer that and try to pick my battles wisely.
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Sep 9, 2019 21:57:00   #
proud republican wrote:
I dont remember Clinton serving,......Obama did he ever served????...Where is YOUR outrage about them????


Clinton used his education deferment... probably until the draft was eliminated ( I would not be surprised), 5 deferment Dick Cheney used it also as well as 5 deferment Don Trump. I was surprised when John Kerry, who did serve, was "swiftboated" and denigrated for his service by my party, and John McCain, a real live hero who makes Trump look like the milquetoast that he is, lost his e******n after the Iraqi debacle. Does that make you feel better?
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Sep 9, 2019 20:32:41   #
rumitoid wrote:
Will he keep his latest promise about releasing his tax forms? Anybody want to bet?

2011
During his "birther" campaign of falsely claiming President Obama was not born in the United States, Trump offered a public deal: If Obama released his birth certificate, he'd release his tax returns.
"Maybe I'm going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate," he told ABC's George Stephanopoulos.

"I may tie my tax returns, I'd love to give my tax returns, I may tie my tax returns into Obama's birth certificate."

He also hinted he might release them "if I decide to run" for office. But he didn't for either occasion.

2012
With Mitt Romney running on the Republican p**********l ticket, Trump again and again offered a bit of advice from one businessman to another: The candidate must release his tax returns, ASAP.

Trump started saying this in January, telling Fox News that releasing the returns is a "great thing" because it lets a person prove "you've been successful, and that you've made a lot of money."

"I actually think it's a positive," he said.

In the final weeks of the campaign, Trump even fell back on his birther deal, telling CNN he urged Romney to release his returns if Obama showed his birth certificate. Trump said it could be "a swap."

2014
The Obama birth certificate had by now emerged, proving that Trump's claim had zero merit.
So Trump devised a new deal: He'll release the tax returns if he runs for office.
"If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely. And I would love to do that," he said in an interview with Ireland's TV3.

2015
Months before announcing his p**********l candidacy, Trump assured that he'd release the returns as part of his proof that he "would make money for our country."

"I would certainly show tax returns if it was necessary," he said in a February radio interview with Hugh Hewitt.

As the year neared its ends, and Trump surged in the GOP primary polls, he said he was "thinking about" letting the returns out.

Presidents are under no legal obligation to release their tax returns. But every president since Richard Nixon has done so while in office as part of a tradition of financial t***sparency, according to tax historian Joe Thorndike.

During the campaign, Trump refused to reveal his tax returns -- upending a 40-year tradition observed by p**********l nominees from both parties. His oft-stated reason: His returns were under audit, and he'd release them when the audit is complete. But if nominated, he promised to make public his tax returns. He did not.

But critics pointed out that an audit does not legally prevent anyone from sharing their tax returns publicly, and Trump could have if he wanted. Despite growing calls to release them, and even leaked pages of his 1995 tax return, Trump still chose to keep them private.
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Maybe he'll release them when his shin splints heal or wh**ever excuse it was he used to avoid service.
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Sep 8, 2019 23:33:00   #
rumitoid wrote:
Over 35, the 90 yo pensioner gets to v**e.


So I guess maybe that 21 yo should pack his duffel and go home without defending the right of the other 2 to v**e. Old enough to die but not to v**e? Maybe vets should form their own party and take over.
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Sep 8, 2019 22:13:24   #
rumitoid wrote:
I agree Vernon.


I'm just wondering why 35 and while I agree that taxpayers should v**e, which taxpayers? Are there going to be more qualifiers? What was the criteria for the determination that a 35 to taxpayer was any more qualified than a 90 yo pensioner or a 21 yo soldier?
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Sep 4, 2019 15:14:19   #
ExperienceCounts wrote:
And just how much did it cost, and how can I afford it on my Social Security into which I have paid over 51 years often at minimum wage? My so called entitlement which is now a drain on the economy. Where will I get the money for that new cell in that high rise that we'll all live in when my home and land become property of the state? Oh, that's right, I won't be here by then, because as a part of the nonproductive workforce, I'll be given the required option of self removal so an undocumented worker can take my place in society. And in case you don't get it, the mechanisms to put this in place have already started in some states...currently on a volunteer basis. Hail...Hit__!

And just in case you don't get it, this is intended to be sarcasm.
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Great sarcasm but not much in the way of common sense... but of course, that is the point of sarcasm. I made money on the deal if I live for 10 more years. If I don't live that long i won't be in a position to care anyway! It's called investment.
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Sep 2, 2019 12:56:36   #
[quote=ExperienceCounts]And just how much did it cost, and how can I afford it on my Social Security into which I have paid over 51 years often at minimum wage? My so called entitlement which is now a drain on the economy. Where will I get the money for that new cell in that high rise that we'll all live in when my home and land become property of the state? Oh, that's right, I won't be here by then, because as a part of the nonproductive workforce, I'll be given the required option of self removal so an undocumented worker can take my place in society. And in case you don't get it, the mechanisms to put this in place have already started in some states...currently on a volunteer basis. Hail...Hit__!

And just in case you don't get it, this is intended to be sarcasm
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Sep 2, 2019 09:26:18   #
rebob14 wrote:
No, it is not..............you should be researching comments made by people who actually worked, and are working, in the energy industry instead of listening to the ideology of the politically driven and deliberately misinformed!


And who would that be? I have solar on my roof it has reduced my electric bill by 90%. I reduce the country’s dependence on foreign oil, not by much admittedly, but it’s a start. I am not saying that f****l f**ls are not part of the solution. I am saying that if there was as much invested in clean energy as there has been in f****l f**l subsidies we would be much farther along.

And, by the way, I am quite familiar with the advantages and disadvantages of the various products, which is why much of the energy industry is quietly investing in solar and wind. The handwriting is on the wall.
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Sep 1, 2019 13:11:58   #
Kevyn wrote:
The process of changing to carbon neutral renewable energy does not k**l jobs nor is it a betrayal of labor. The proposals of people like AOC and Sanders is to tear down barriers to union organization, increase the minimum wage and switch to universal health care to free people chained to jobs to maintain benefits for their families. A technician building, installing and maintaining heat pumps, solar panels, wind turbines and electric charging stations can earn as much money as a coal miner or oil rig worker. In many instances they have similar sk**l sets and can t***sition with their existing technical prowess. The important thing is to make it as easy as possible for them to Unionize and to eliminate right to work and at will employment laws to guarantee workers the right to due process and collective bargaining.
The process of changing to carbon neutral renewabl... (show quote)


Good point!
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Aug 23, 2019 22:33:56   #
debeda wrote:
Hi openmind, and welcome to OPP! If you press "quote reply" when replying to a post, we can tell who you're talking to


Thanks. Sorry, learning by doing.
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Aug 23, 2019 22:13:47   #
I promise to leave you alone.
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