EXCELLANT POST NP!!!!!! This whole thing about reverse victimhood is just sickening. There is enough victimhood in this world to inhabit another entire planet. All of these greivence montsers that we have never ever bother to think that perhaps they are the ones who are victimizing this country. The incesant whining and nashing of teeth makes me so angry at times that I would spit if I could at the time. Sure their are real victims. THe Muslims never had been able to see the t***h and what the world was really like outside of their own boundries. JUs t like here but on an even larger scale the Muslims were not allowed to study the real world and if they tried they wer punished. Generational welfare that only teaches that their children cant do anything about their plight in life. Never giving the kids the opportunty to even dream big is what the major crime is in my opinion. When President Lyndon Johnson stated that if we only just give these n****rs what they think they want thye will v**e Democrat for the next 200 years was probably the biggest crime of hte century. Obviously it worked. What in fact happened was that all it did was to ensure the urban population was only promised to never be able to succeed. I swear that If I had been old enough and gotten within one foot of that asshole I would have pushed his face right through the back of his head. If one could have only known back then what actually was going to happen and actualy cared enough I believe this situation could have been stopped in its tracks. Wh**ever.
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Azzi acknowledges that Islam has a problem with fundamentalism, but he claims that Christianity does as well. This is the usual tu-quoque argument. “Christian fundamentalism” may be a problem, but it is not a problem on the same scale, or with a similar origin, as “Islamic fundamentalism.” Where are the tens of thousands of victims of Christian fundamentalism all over the world? Just as important, where are the Biblical texts that command Christians to wage war on all non-Christians, to “k**l them wherever you find them,” to “smite at their necks,” to “strike terror in their hearts”? Where are the equivalents in the Gospels to the 109 “Jihad” verses in the Qur’an? There are none. Nor is Jesus to be likened to the warrior Muhammad, who in his last ten years took part in 65 different campaigns, helped slaughter 600-900 prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, attacked the Jewish farmers at the Khaybar Oasis, k**led them and took their women as sex s***es. Muhammad himself took the Jewish girl Saafiyah at Khaybar as his sex s***e, raping her on the same day that he k**led her father, husband, and brother. Whenever Muhammad expressed a desire to have those who mocked him k**led, his followers were happy to comply. None of this apparently bothers Muslims, who regard Muhammad as the Model of Conduct (“uswa hasana”) and the Perfect Man (“al-insan al-kamil”). Azzi knows all of this, but he’s not about to volunteer such information.
What Azzi pretends not to know is that mainstream Muslims are all “fundamentalists.” That is, they take the Qur’an literally, some with more and some with less commitment to acting upon its commands. Azzi makes a curious remark, that “while we believe that the Qur’an is the literal Word of God that it is not meant to be read literally.” Who is this “we” for whom he claims to be speaking? Mainstream Muslims certainly are supposed to take the Qur’an literally. What theological grounds support Azzi’s claim that “it [the Qur’an] is not to be taken literally”?
“Do I condone the condition of women in most Muslim majority countries?” Azzi asks. “Absolutely not. I don’t condone it. I think they live a terrible life, and they live under terrible conditions. [But] there is nothing in Islam that supports or embraces that kind of horror or terrorism.”
Azzi admits that women in most Muslim countries “lead a terrible life” and “live under terrible conditions.” He then claims that “there is nothing in Islam that supports or embraces that kind of horror or terrorism”(against women). But if that is true, then what explains the miserable condition of women in “most Muslim majority countries” and the much better condition of women in the countries where Christianity has prevailed? Doesn’t Robert Azzi owe us an explanation for that “terrible life” of women under Islam that has nothing to do with Islam?
Robert Azzi cannot possibly have managed to forget so much of the Islam he is attempting to defend. According to the Sharia, Muslim women can inherit half as much as men (Qur’an 4:11); their testimony is worth half that of a man (2:282); polygamy is licit (Muhammad, the Perfect Man, allowed himself at least twelve, and possibly as many as fourteen wives), and so are sex s***es, “those whom your right hand possesses”; a Muslim man is allowed to beat his disobedient wife, though “lightly”; a Muslim man need only pronounce the triple-talaq to divorce his wife; and women are described as inferior to men, both in the Qur’an, for “the men are a degree above them” (2:228); and in the Hadith, that is, in Sahih Bukhari 6:301: “[Muhammad] said, ‘Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man? They replied in the affirmative. He said, ‘This [is because of] the deficiency in her intelligence.’” None of this is mentioned in Azzi’s meretricious account of Islam.
And Azzi argues that America has been complicit in propping up some of the regimes that oppress women.
Azzi immediately attempts to deflect the blame from Islam, and the texts and teachings that explain the oppression
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