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Sep 2, 2018 06:24:53   #
Richard Rowland wrote:
It may appear that I'm blaming the president for what I consider is a false hyped economy, I'm not. I feel that if he were left alone, he could, in fact, do wonders for the nation beyond what some feel he has already accomplished. However, I feel he's being played, along with the rest of us.

There's a reason he's being allowed to do the things he's doing. It's the same ole story of the hidden agenda, beneath, what on the surface, seems a reasonable course. Plus, even if he were free to do as he wished, eight years isn't enough time to set things straight. Too much has been deliberately lost, by allowing the nation's manufacturing base to pull up and leave.

As for new businesses being started, a lemonade stand is a business. Most of these businesses being started are marginal at best. Still, every once in a while, we hear of some gigantic conglomeration wanting to locate to this or that state, and the jobs that will be created. Every state in the union goes into a frenzy, to see who can give the most away, to have it locate in their state.

By the time the dust has settled, one wonders what has been gained, plus there's no guarantee the company will stay put for any length of time. Na, it's still just feel good economics, the reality is, the American worker still has to compete with foreign labor.

Plus, the conversation has yet to discuss how the Federal Reserve fits into the scheme of things. The fed can dray up the money supply or burst open the dam. And there's the rub, the president has no control over it. If President Donald Trump knows anything, he knows the Federal Reserve, and he also knows it can be lethal to tangle with those who own it.

There's the attempt to confuse the issue of JFK's assassination with organized crime, which, by the way, the FED certainly is, and Fidel Castro's response to the Bay of Pigs, failed invasion. My money is on those who control the FED, wh**ever reason for JFK's assassination, we have yet to learn. There have also been other leaders who objected to a national bank being established in their countries who meet an untimely end. Prior to JFK, they almost got America's President, Andrew Jackson.
It may appear that I'm blaming the president for w... (show quote)


Andrew Jackson had few redeeming qualities. His opposition to a central bank was one of them. You will note that the Federal Reserve, with it's ties to what is now the IMF, came into being largely during the Administration of Woodrow Wilson, arguably one of our worst presidents. Wilson's chief adviser was Edward House, an admitted C*******t who was also the chief founder and architect of the Council on Foreign Relations.
The machinations of the bankers were already in place with the passage of the 16th Amendment, sold to a thoroughly conned American e*****rate as simply a tax on rich Northeastern industrialists. Ironic that these same industrialists were provided with tax shelters to largely protect their money from taxation.
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Sep 2, 2018 06:15:58   #
kemmer wrote:
Thanks, children, you started me reminiscing about when I taught 4th grade.


So that's what happened to those kids.
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Sep 2, 2018 06:07:20   #
PeterS wrote:
Why is living by the basic tenets of Christ an unlivable standard? You managed to not bake a wedding cake for homosexuals because they are unrepentant correct? So why is it you couldn't refrain from v****g for Donald Trump when he was an unrepentant serial adulterer? If you could manage to avoid baking a wedding cake for a homosexual then certainly you could avoid v****g for someone who committed adultery on every wife he ever had, correct?

I don't think the problem that it so hard to live up to the basic tenets of Christ as I think most sincere Christians can live up to at least the majority of them. I think it's because you believe you can get by, by being morally relative. I mean after all, evangelical don't think deeds matter so if it comes down to maintaining your moral center or achieving political power, political power is a no brainer for you to get into heaven deeds don't matter.

Now unfortunately I was raised believing that deeds do matter and I met any number who not only walked with Christ but walked as Christ too so I know a dev**ed Christian can follow, as I said, at least the most basic of Christs tenets. Anyway, save for the sake of argument it doesn't matter to me--it's that I do know that walking as Christ would--isn't as difficult as you Christian Conservatives make it seem.

Anyway, I'm not even a Christian and I have no problem living without an AR-15 or other guns that many find threatening to our society; nor do I shutter in terror because i*****l a***ns come to this country to work; nor am I terrified of Muslims coming into this country because the reason they are displaced is because of how we conducted war in their countries; nor am I trying to strip citizenship from DACA or stop people who are born in this country from being natural citizens. For that matter I'm not trying to strip welfare and food stamps from the needy; nor Pell grants, work study, and other scholarships from people who are needy; nor do I bristle at the thought of medicaid or other means tested types of aid going to the needy as far too many Christian Conservatives are. But of course to be the type of follower you are deeds aren't important so even though most of the positions I take align with how your savior would feel it doesn't matter because to get your ticket punched all that matters is that you believe that Christ died for your sin, correct!
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Quite a list of nots. I have no problem living without an AR-15 either. Mainly because I don't need one at this point in time. If I needed one and couldn't purchase one I would have a problem.
You are not trying to strip citizenship from DACA recipients? You cannot, since they are not citizens in the first place. As for the children born to i*****l a***ns in this country, I refer you to the link below. These are the public statements of the men who actually WROTE the 14th Amendment, and they specifically state that it is not intended to apply to aliens, but was an extension of the Civil Rights Act of 1866. You have no problem with the 300,000 or so children born to wetbacks every year being birth citizens because most will grow up to be Democrats, due to the influence of their criminal parents who were enabled by do-nothing politicians.

https://spectator.org/63860_what-did-14th-amendment-congress-think-about-birthright-citizenship/
I am not trying to deny Food Stamps to needy Americans. In fact, I am trying to stop i******s from obtaining government benefits meant for US citizens so there will be more for those citizens. You DO realize that both the IRS and the Social Security Administration have acknowledged that there are at least 1.3 million wetbacks in this country who are working and/or receiving benefits via stolen ID's? This does not count the ones who use f**e ID's. Either one is a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison and a substantial fine. Stolen ID's are a real problem with real victims. I have had my ID stolen, and it took me nearly 3 months to get back most of the money that was stolen from my account. During that time I still had to pay my bills.
With more than one million Mexicans waiting patiently and LEGALLY to become US citizens, how about they get a little consideration? They have already proven themselves to be law abiding and respectful of our laws and customs. I support more consideration for them and less for i******s.
Most i******s are visa overstays. I do not see how someone overstaying a visa by a couple of months presents a problem; but I do see how overstaying by any longer than that would. The only amnesty we should support is for people who have only overstayed their visas for less than 6 months. They can renew or go home with no repercussions.
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Sep 1, 2018 23:50:44   #
Judil wrote:
This is the closest factual comment on this thread.


Hi, Judil. Welcome to OPP. If you will notice, there is a box that says quote reply/ If you use that option when replying to a post or comment, your own comment will be directed properly.
That being said, What is the closest factual comment on this thread?
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Sep 1, 2018 23:18:13   #
Lonewolf wrote:
Trump is at best an. I***t he has the vocabulary of a 7-year-old and his life is full of
Failure that's untill he got into money laundering which he was quite good at
.would a smart man put himself in the spot he's in caught between bob mueular and the Russian mob I dobt it !

There is no period after an. It should be placed after i***t; which should not be capitalized. He should be capitalized. Failure should not be capitalized. Period after failure. That's should be capitalized. Until is misspelled. Do not end a sentence with a preposition; it's bad grammar. Would is capitalized. Semi-colon between in and caught. Bob Mueller is should be capitalized, and you misspelled his last name. Question mark after mob. You misspelled doubt.
Now who were you calling an i***t with the vocabulary of a seven year old?
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Sep 1, 2018 23:01:55   #
straightUp wrote:
You can't even spell "Reagan conservative" (maybe it's a typo). In any case, I'm curious... what do you think qualifies you as a Reagan-style conservative? As for the "millions and millions", that isn't saying much in a nation of 350 million. All I know is that McCain was one of the last remaining Reagan-style conservatives in government that still called himself a Republican. As for the populace, conservatives in general (old-school AND f*****t) have been loosing popular v**es by ever increasing margins, so that should tell you something.
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It tells me you haven't been paying attention. In case you haven't checked, Republicans control the House, the Senate and the Presidency. There are 33 Republican governors and most of these states completely controlled by Republican legislatures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_state_legislatures


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Sep 1, 2018 17:35:13   #
pat4fairandbalanced wrote:
I am Center Right in my political slant of view!

I need to ask when will we review all the things HC has done starting with

-32,000 emails deleted
-Her funding of the debunked trump dossier
-Clinton Foundation and the immediate closing of the “good works”


Welcome to OPP. The problem with bringing Hillary to justice is that she knows where all the bodies are buried. There are some who say her and Slick Willie put quite a few of them there.
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Sep 1, 2018 17:24:38   #
Lonewolf wrote:
for starters, he raised the rent of his security detail at trump tower till they moved outside in a trailer. His trips to mar largo he overcharges his security there.
His hotel in DC the state dept was recommending foreign diplomats stay there so trump still runs his business and is being sued for breaking the emolument clause ever other president adhered to.
He chose Kurds over turkey our Allie since ww1.
an investigation has been started on mar largo ware you pay to see him over 60 lobbyists joined the club right after his e******n.
rich Russians anchor their yachts right off mar largo!

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/jason-chaffetz-donald-trump-mar-a-lago/index.html
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For starters it would be nice if you occasionally backed up your claims with some proof.
Secondly, Turkey was not our ally in WWI OR in WWII. They fought for the Central Powers of Germany, Austria, etc. They remained neutral in WWII up until less than 3 months before Germany's surrender. They were told they would be denied membership in the soon to be formed UN if they remained neutral. No Turkish troops ever served in combat with US troops until the Korean War, and then thier involvement was negligible.
Turkey has a history of murdering minorities. The Kurds are simply the latest victims of the Turkish hit parade. Between 1910 and 1922, the Turks murdered about 1.5 million of the 2 million Armenians living in Turkey.
As far as their status as allies, I have trained with Turkish troops. The biggest favor those i***ts could do for us is to join the enemy army, whoever that might be.
As far as the emoluments clause goes, I suggest you look it up in the Constitution. I will even provide a link.

https://www.google.com/search?q=emoluments+clause+text+us+constitution&rlz=1C1AVUC_enUS791US797&oq=emoluments&aqs=chrome.0.

So President Trump is being sued over the "emoluments clause?" According to the Constitution, Emoluments are...

The profit arising from office, employment, or labor; that which is received as a compensation for services, or which is annexed to the possession of office as salary, fees, and perquisites. Any perquisite, advantage, profit, or gain arising from the possession of an office.
These may not be accepted without the consent of Congress. There is no violation as Congress has not withdrawn consent or forbidden the acceptance of anything that Trump has done.
You are not much of a law student. Just because you wish something was so, does not make it so.
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Sep 1, 2018 15:11:27   #
pafret wrote:
This is a message that should be sent to Pres. Trump and each Republican member of both houses. I am profoundly disgusted that immigration and national security via the borders have not been addressed. ACA has not been repealed and replaced with a less intrusive economy altering substitute.

Citizenship should never be granted to i******s or their children, even if born in this country.

Birth citizenship was never the intent of the men who wrote the 14th Amendment. The link below contains public statements made by the author of the first section of the Amendment, Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan.



https://spectator.org/63859_morning-spectacle-happy-monday/
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Aug 31, 2018 16:39:49   #
Lonewolf wrote:
He had no prablum giving multi billionaires billions in tax breaks but stiffs the working man
And all those billions will come out of the working man's pocket!


So it is your contention that Federal Bureaucrats actually work?
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Aug 31, 2018 15:52:18   #
Airforceone wrote:
As I read the responses it is a very good indication of what you Trump supporters want America to look like. I will take John McCains American over a Donald Trump White America.

As for Jeff Flake he supported 98% of the GOP agenda, if you Trump supporters ever read a piece of legislation and how Jeff Flake v**ed. You would understand who Jeff Flake is and his unwaving support to the conservative agenda. He just had a dislike for Trump and he was not a coward to expose the pathological lies of Trump.,

See Flake supported the Conservative message he just h**ed the messenger.
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I see you finally hired a ghost writer, or a proofreader or something. Who wrote this for you?
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Aug 31, 2018 15:40:49   #
The new movie First Man starring Canadian actor Ryan Gosling is a story of the moon landing. However, the movie makers decided to omit the scene in which the American f**g was planted on the moon. Canadian Ryan Gosling explains "It's more of a human achievement than an American achievement."

https://libertynewsnow.com/america-erased-from-moon-landing-story/article9827

Oh really? So, Neil Armstrong was a Canuck, eh? Or perhaps his name was misspelled and it was really Armstrongovitch, or something similar. Not an American achievement? Can someone show me where there were anyone but Americans on the Eagle? I wonder why they called it the Eagle? Maybe the ancient Romans, and by extension, the modern Italians had something to do with it?
What crap. What jealousy. What did Canada do? supply Moosehead Beer and back bacon? How many Russians or Italians or Brits or French were on the mission team? Humanity did not fly that ship to the moon; AMERICANS did it. Deal with it.
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Aug 31, 2018 07:58:01   #
PeterS wrote:
Life is the point. We are given but one shot at life so how we spend it is the entire point to the life we are given. In the end we all wind up as the same speck of dust so how we live our lives is the entire point of living.

You look to god and heaven as the future of man and I look to man and space as the future of man. So for each little bit I can add to that awareness is my little bit of the picture that I can paint. Eventually we will figure out how to escape this rock and the future of man can be assured. If we look to a god though for our salvation and that is what we plan for then indeed our life will be wasted and our existence without a point.

And no, unless you've managed to do what no other human has managed to do all you have is the hope that your beliefs will prove to be true. Well I think mankind unique enough that he deserves better than the hope that there is more after death. If we manage to escape this planet than individually we may not have life after death but mankind will live and be able to populate our galaxy and then other galaxies and finally the entire universe. That can only happen if man pursues rationalism and will fall apart if we follow fallacies with the false hope of individual salvation.
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I see you have fallen into the trap of tossing religion and belief in a Supreme Power into the same pot. If you truly pursued rationalism, you would look at the basis of science, mathematics. The odds of this universe "evolving" out of nothing purely by chance are so far beyond impossible they are not worth considering. Your rationalism leaves no room for the distinct possibility that perhaps there is a Supreme Being, and this intelligence or wh**ever is a part of nature rather than supernatural, that survival of the consciousness beyond physical death is a natural occurrence. Too many people, in their rush to demean anything they cannot understand or comprehend, miss the forest for the trees. There are a number of scientists who would win a Nobel Prize for hubris, if they gave one.
Have you ever considered the possibility that there is a greater intelligence that we just cannot comprehend yet? One that has nothing to do with any of the so-called mainstream religions?
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Aug 31, 2018 07:49:33   #
maryjane wrote:
And what would S Korea do if the US totally pulled out of that country?


You mean after they changed their underwear? I dont know. Without Chinese help, I'm not sure the NK's could beat South Korea's Army. The North has numbers, the South has better training and weapons.
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Aug 31, 2018 07:47:14   #
Bad Bob wrote:
Me too.


It is your own twin who is deserving of sympathy.


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