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Aug 17, 2013 13:28:11   #
Glenn wrote:
Would you please look up the definition of (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN)and then maybe you can stop your stupid rhetoric!
He is not a natural born citizen and therefore non eligible for the office of President of the USA period!!!!!!



I used no rhetoric stupid or intelligent , if you are so sure of what a natural born citizen is you can write it here , I do know how to read , he was born in the United States , to an American citizen , what is needed to qualify him as a natural born citizen other than that
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Aug 17, 2013 13:19:58   #
oldroy wrote:
Maybe you could mention the numbers of people who have dropped out of the labor force from trying to get jobs so long. Are they really not unemployed as our government says time after time? I really don't understand all of this, but then my mind stopped twisting in the liberal manner over 40 years ago.


Mentioning the ones who stopped looking yes needs more attention but who wants to do so other then some of us , do they need more attention and appropriate action yes will it happen only time will tell , I am not hopeful , in the partisan bickering they are collateral damage
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Aug 17, 2013 13:02:02   #
Old_Gringo wrote:
Your comment; "the president is an American born to an American on American soil" is what prompted my query. I thought it was an odd statement.
That sounds like something Kerry would say.


that doesn't make it any less relevant President Obama was born here in the States to an American citizen , it is ok to question his citizenship as it is to question mine or yours but one needs real proof that is irrefutable to prove he isn't a citizen and none has been brought forward
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Aug 17, 2013 12:57:45   #
Babsan wrote:
Agree 100 % ,but there were a certain amount of stupids that v**ed for the Fraud



what is your definition of natural born citizen that is so relevant to you, he was born in the United States, to an American citizen , that makes him eligible to be president and you are calling demographic shifts as fraud , why is it so necessary to continue this , it makes no sense
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Aug 17, 2013 12:49:22   #
oldroy wrote:
Have you managed to change the topic from unemployment to what Twain said? Saul would be proud of you if you have.


the metrics for determining unemployment changes as the political c*****e c****es , from one partisan perspective to another , to understand the true nature of the employment picture of the country one needs to sift through a lot of data and that is cumbersome and the average person doesn't care to do so , so then relies on generalities and news information so inaccuracies will pile upon inaccuracies and discussing the issue is like trying to dance on quicksand
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Aug 17, 2013 12:38:53   #
slatten49 wrote:
Well, to that I would say, thank you, Admiral. You show obvious good taste in men, and in quality of humor.

Sgt. Major Slatten shows no taste in men, and is humorless.


not to overstep my bounds but the Admiral and the Sgt. Major have probably mystified us of lower rank, at times, as to why they stuck with us , but I believe we are so very grateful
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Aug 17, 2013 12:14:42   #
slatten49 wrote:
Damn, Don....break out of your shell. Don't sugarcoat it!


Yes Don has such a problem with bashfulness , he should stop being such a wallflower, the Admiral and I love your reply , she read it and coughed up her coffee laughing
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Aug 17, 2013 12:04:34   #
Old_Gringo wrote:
Are you a Kerry viet vet? Just curious.

what do you mean a Kerry viet vet , was I a seal yes .
Did I serve in seal six no so please do not ask , I use the term Naval Special forces to defect a lot of unwanted chatter
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Aug 17, 2013 11:39:26   #
viet vet wrote:
Thanks I try to talk to people as I would like to talk to , It is the polite and civil way and there isn't enough of it

Speaking of the Admiral she is my rock , my anchor , when I got back from Vietnam and meet her her approach to life and just being who she was --saved my butt and to say I am grateful is to understate it beyond measure
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Aug 17, 2013 11:18:30   #
slatten49 wrote:
I hope you get as close as often as you can to the Admiral!

Tread lightly, and civily (as you do, already) when posting on the main forum of politics. Always a sensitive and volatile atmosphere. Most will respond in kind.

I entered my comment on Twain before anyone else tried to nail you. No disrespect intended!

Thanks I try to talk to people as I would like to talk to , It is the polite and civil way and there isn't enough of it
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Aug 17, 2013 09:46:54   #
ABBAsFernando wrote:
The United States Government today under the Kenyan is a SOVIET style c*******t tyranny!



If you think this you know little about life in the old soviet union and you should due more studying on governmental types and the president is an American born to an American on American soil
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Aug 17, 2013 09:43:41   #
TheC*****r wrote:
Would that be like:

There are liberals and damn liberals and then there are lying Demoncraps?

Just wondering.


no both sides are just as guilty of malfeasance and to propose moral high ground for either side is tantamount to lying to oneself
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Aug 17, 2013 09:35:59   #
slatten49 wrote:
All true, but is this to say that both sides don't have an agenda that is paramount to anything else? I think not. To think that one side has an edge in ethical thinking over the other is ludicrous. Guilty on both sides!


I remember hearing a story about the civil war and it kind of goes like this , a reporter from a newspaper asked a union corporal what he thought of the war and he said "me and a ,he pointed to a confederate soldier , could set over a table with coffee and settle this in 15 minutes-- the whole legislative branch has forgotten their real job is goverance not bickering and obstruction
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Aug 17, 2013 00:03:53   #
oldroy wrote:
I don't know where to put this one so will put it here since it talks about politics. Abbott and Costello were so funny and this one is about good as their "Who's on First" thing. It does attend quite well to the way the government considers who is unemployed and who doesn't have a job.

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Subject: "Who's on First?..." the 2013 version



COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America .

ABBOTT: Good Subject. Terrible Times. It's 7.8%.

COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

ABBOTT: No, that's 14.7%.

COSTELLO: You just said 7.8%.

ABBOTT: 7.8% Unemployed.

COSTELLO: Right 7.8% out of work.

ABBOTT: No, that's 14.7%.

COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 14.7% unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, that's 7.8%.

COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 7.8% or 14.7%?

ABBOTT: 7.8% are unemployed. 14.7% are out of work.

COSTELLO: If you are out of work you are unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, Congress said you can't count the "Out of Work" as the unemployed. You have to look for work to be unemployed.

COSTELLO: BUT THEY ARE OUT OF WORK!!!

ABBOTT: No, you miss his point.

COSTELLO: What point?

ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work can't be counted with those who look for work. It wouldn't be fair.

COSTELLO: To whom?

ABBOTT: The unemployed.

COSTELLO: But ALL of them are out of work.

ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work. Those who are out of work gave up looking and if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment roles that would count as less unemployment?

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That's how it gets to 7.8%. Otherwise it would be 14.7%.

COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means there are two ways to bring down the unemployment number?

ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

ABBOTT: Correct.

COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?

ABBOTT: Bingo.

COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of the two is to have people stop looking for work.

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an Economist.

COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said!

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like Congress.
I don't know where to put this one so will put it ... (show quote)



I believe Mark Twain had a good saying also and I quote-there are lies and damn lies and then there are statistics
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Aug 16, 2013 23:44:53   #
slatten49 wrote:
Conventional wisdom is because Obama presented a plan very similar to theirs, but his name was attached to it. They weren't too comfortable with that. I'm not sure if this is totallly so, but they are incredibly similar as I alluded to regarding Gingrich and The Heritage Foundation.

This can easily be checked out with little effort.

You should know I just posted a reply to your Northern Minnesota fishing experiences on the PC thread. I vacationed up there a couple of years ago. My brother also has been up there.
Conventional wisdom is because Obama presented a p... (show quote)


yes got your message on Minnesota but the resistance to the health care plan has a distinct smell to it, something isn't right
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