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Dec 14, 2023 09:47:41   #
microphor wrote:
Left-wing nut one time posted that Donald Trump has lied 30000 times. Yet For the last 2 years I've been asking for a list of those 30000 lies. You know how many times it's been posted 0. You know why? Because the left post a lie in the rest of you run with it. Waiting for list!


I’ve told you numerous times it’s a catalog ( 5 million words)and sent you access information. Do a little leg work yourself before you start name calling and making miss statements about “ left post a lie”. It’s out there look it up, too much to cut and paste.

Here is the reference again:
When The Washington Post Fact Checker team first started cataloguing President Donald Trump’s false or misleading claims, we recorded 492 suspect claims in the first 100 days of his presidency. On Nov. 2 alone, the day before the 2020 v**e, Trump made 503 false or misleading claims as he barnstormed across the country in a desperate effort to win ree******n.
This astonishing jump in falsehoods is the story of Trump’s tumultuous reign. By the end of his term, Trump had accumulated 30,573 unt***hs during his presidency — averaging about 21 erroneous claims a day.
What is especially striking is how the tsunami of unt***hs kept rising the longer he served as president and became increasingly unmoored from the t***h.
Trump averaged about six claims a day in his first year as president, 16 claims day in his second year, 22 claims day in this third year — and 39 claims a day in his final year. Put another way, it took him 27 months to reach 10,000 claims and an additional 14 months to reach 20,000. He then exceeded the 30,000 mark less than five months later.

Read our full report on the database.
See the pace of Trump’s false claims in this amazing visual graphic.
Visit the Trump claims database website and explore it. The database has an extremely fast search engine that will quickly locate suspect statements made by Trump. Readers can also isolate claims by time period, subject or venue.

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The fact checks in the database amount to about 5 million words and many include links to sources that debunk Trump’s statements.
The Trump claims database was nominated by the Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute at New York University for inclusion in a list of the Top Ten Works of Journalism of the Decade. “The project is a sterling example of what journalists should do — holding the powerful accountable by using reporting and facts,” the nomination said.

Or you can look up on internet search: WSJ Trump lies catalog
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Dec 13, 2023 20:30:45   #
Big Kahuna wrote:
Please don't pray for me. Satan already has you in his clutches and I want no part of that demon and you praying to him.


Judging again. You can ask but I pray for those in need.
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Dec 13, 2023 20:25:43   #
padremike wrote:
Why waste my time and efforts by discharging into a non-conductor? Even Helen Keller could see what evil and destruction you l*****t have wroth.

I should type up the following and put it on speed dial I've had to repeat it so often.

The neo-Marxist Progress Party, AKA cultural Marxist Democrats, are a magnet for atheist, nihlist, moral relativist and Progressive
Christians who vigorously support and encourage every sexual perversions found within the L***Q d*****t community including the sexual m********n of children, both physical & mental, and promoting the lie that men can birth babies and pretend women, who are really men, can legitimately participate in women sports. You've utterly destroyed the sanctity of human life by ushering in a Constitutional Right that women may legally premeditate the murder of their totally innocent and harmless child nestled in the sanctity of a mother's womb. You've tried to dehumanize that child, who will be ripped into many pieces before being torn from the womb and flushed down the sewer, by calling it a zygote or a fetus - never a child. Despots always dehumanize their victims before k*****g them. [You still with me or did you roll your eyes in denial and leave?] You destroyed the sanctity of Traditional marriage and with it the nuclear family. You constantly attack the traditional Judeo/Christian faith (only) never more evident than during the attacks on Christmas giving equal billing to the worship of Satan. Do you for a milliseconds believe our Founders would have stood still for believing their Constitution would ever sanction that sort if evil? You l*****t have found numerous ways to twist & circumvent the Constitution and use it against America. You have destroyed education. You've destroyed our cities, you promote crime and attack Law Enforcement.
Schools and Universities are t***smission belts for Marxist indoctrination. Our kids are so brainwashed, like you, that they support terrorist over Israel. They have been taught a perverted history of America and instead of the greatest nation that has done more good than any nation in history, they're taught that America is evil and, the horror of all horrors, that were r****t. I wonder what percentage of young people today can recite the Pledge of Allegiance? I've barely opened the book and turned to page two on what you destroyers have done and are doing to a once great nation.

Everything that made us a great nation and good people you L*****t attack. You represent the greatest evil known to man inasmuch as you call evil good and that which is truly good you call evil. You are truly a legion of the damned.
Why waste my time and efforts by discharging into ... (show quote)


So when did democrats start on this destruction and degradation you mention in your note: last three years under Biden? What did Trump do to fix the things you mention during his four year term?
Do church leaders, parents or anyone else have influence on this t***sformation, Republicans have had control of government numerous times in the past decades , what have they done to right the ship. I really don’t think most of your issues are primarily political- other factors have created these changes.

Each of us have to pass morality, t***h, grace, work ethic, racial, religious, and sexual diversity/ inclusion, to each other and our siblings every day, along with hope . We need to v**e in politicians that support those characteristics.

If we don’t we haven’t done our due diligence. Each of us can change this h**eful, racial, demeaning, immoral rhetoric by demonstrating good morals-and challenging the bad immoral civilly so adding to it with unsupported conspiracy theories.

We need to stay civil , talk t***h to falsehoods actively challenge misdeeds and keep bar high for our elected officials.

You and I can influence good.


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Dec 13, 2023 19:14:48   #
Big Kahuna wrote:
Make sure you keep your hands to yourself. P********a runs rampant in the demorat party.


I’ll pray for you and your salvation. That is really a crude and denigrating statement but I would expect you are proud of yourself for making the statement.

Another conspiracy theory that has you hooked.
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Dec 13, 2023 16:29:04   #
Marty 2020 wrote:
You just can’t figure it out! You democrats are so brainwashed that you can’t see it that America is tanking and it’s your fault!


Exactly other than inflation , which has been reducing, what parts and how are the parts of America “ tanking”? Help me see it please.
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Dec 13, 2023 15:57:18   #
Justice101 wrote:
The prosecution paid their expert witness $350,000 to testify in the Trump civil fraud case. What say you regarding this? Expert witnesses in high profile cases charge a boatload due to the amount of work they do in pr********n to present their testimony.

https://news.yahoo.com/expert-witnesses-trumps-defense-billed-030243236.html

The state's only expert witness, Michael McCarty, acknowledged that he was paid a rate of $950 per hour, but worked far fewer hours, estimating that he made about $350,000 for his testimony.
The prosecution paid their expert witness $350,000... (show quote)


Yes about half what was paid Trumps witness. I don’t agree with either, but, evidently it’s common practice. I couldn’t afford either and the excessive amounts in my mind affects witnesses credibility relatively on both sides. I would expect the judge will take excessively paid witnesses testimony into consideration.

Wish I could make that for jury duty.

Thanks for sharing.
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Dec 13, 2023 15:51:31   #
Big Kahuna wrote:
You are really funny Hashki. Have you thought about a Santa Clause job at Macy's??


I do Santa Clause for children at times during the Christmas Holidays.
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Dec 13, 2023 15:49:49   #
Big Kahuna wrote:
You are really funny Hashki. Have you thought about a Santa Clause job at Macy's??


No value add, since you have no “ alternate facts” or facts supporting your view does that indicate you support my fact supported view or just have no counter facts to support your opinion.?

You are trying to fire a gun with no ammo.

Thanks for sharing.
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Dec 13, 2023 15:44:44   #
jack sequim wa wrote:
Is it possible your that ignorant or just a l*****t troll?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/09/10/no_trump_hasnt_made_20000_false_or_misleading_claims.html#!


Did you read the article you posted? WSJ clearly states that repeats of the same lie are included in the count, the article discounts the repeats as not lies- ( a lie today is not the same lie if I tell it again and again and again. I think not.

The article then leaves some statements are not lies but just differences of interpretation of what’s real facts and what isn’t.- fewer number

Then the article goes on to state that 20,000 part way through year( 30,000 four year number while overstated would still be significant if repeats- which are legitimate counts, and interpretations are taken out.

The same process is used for Biden as well so comparative Trump is at 30,000 four year lie rate and Biden is at 400 four year rate. Cut Trumps or all but repeats in half and as article says 15,000 over four years or 10,000 over article measurement timeframe vs Biden’s 400 is still significant- Trump is still King of Liars.

I don’t appreciate the demeaning words related “ ignorant or l*****t troll”
I am a person with personal beliefs and opinions as you are and you don’t see me name calling or demeaning you. It adds no value.

Thanks for sharing your article that supports Trump as a prolific liar.

Thanks for your response
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Dec 13, 2023 14:05:09   #
JFlorio wrote:
GFY! troll!


That’s not a value add statement. Does this mean you still have no facts to support your unsupported biased opinions and so your giving into immoral and swearing statement’s ?
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Dec 13, 2023 13:59:54   #
martsiva wrote:
If you did you would admit the Democrats went after Trump even before he took office starting with the Russian collusion BS!! If you did you would admit that our country was much better off under Trump!! If you did you would admit to all the damage the Democrats have done to this country!! If you did you would admit that Biden lied with his man-made c*****e c****e BS to try and limit oil drilling in our own country and instead imported more expensive foreign oil!! If you did you would admit that the Bank experts know more than the biased judge and prosecutor in Trump`s 'fraud' case!!
If you did you would admit the Democrats went afte... (show quote)


I’m to moral to do this, but if you gave me $800k to say I agree with all you said as the expert Bank witness did- I would think about it but I would still say no.

Trumps actions, h**e rhetoric actions, in office, inconsistencies and timing in handling of C***d P******c turned a majority of v**ers( even some new previously non v**ers) to v**e him out, and Democrats to bring up Trumps misdeeds. Trump is a first president to be convicted of fraud( Trump University, NY summary judgement by judge based in grand jury investigations and Jean Carroll defamation and sexual abuse convictions) and his disregard for constitution, constituents, his own advisors, I’m smarter than Generals, Doctors, CDC, etc rhetoric his actions drove the surfacing of his misdeeds( first to engage inillegal acts to try to steal 2020 e******ns, non peaceful t******r of p***r, continuing e******n **es for three years with no proof, keeping sensitive documents and refusing/ delaying, and not providing all subpoena information requested , unlike Biden & Pence who voluntarily complied once discovered,. Russian collusion was not his downfall in 2020 it was his four years of actions in office.
Our country is clearly better off without Trump:
Trump handling of C***d P******c was another key to his e******n loss Biden . Biden has inflation that could take him down in 2024. Economy in USA including jobs( infrastructure bill, chip mfging in US, etc.), salaries, international relations with allies improved under Biden, no wars for three years under Biden.

Oil was imported under Trump and Biden, USA was number 1 in oil production under Obama( one of facets of oil- natural gas I believe USA went number one under Trump in natural gas solidifying our Number one position). Today USA is pumping more oil than in our history.
Both I feel are too old to run the country, neither are or should be our best candidates but my view is based on Trumps performance in office and to date Biden is clearly a better candidate than Trump if that’s the choice. Inflation will impact v**es for Biden, even if it continues improvement as it has so far. If inflation takes off again, war or health or some other unforeseen issues arise and if Biden doesn’t handle it well it could impact e******n. Health of Biden and or Trump could be a factor as well.
If more Trump convictions or if states are able to block Trump due to 14th amendment, Trumps base will not be enough to re-elect Trump.

Time will tell.

Thanks for civilly sharing your views.
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Dec 13, 2023 13:14:43   #
padremike wrote:
You silly simpleton. The Marxist Left began calling for Trump's impeachment before he raised his hand and took the oath. They've never let up persecuting him and his supporters. I fully realize you're so g***med and indoctrinated in h**e Trump BS that these things escape you and the only t***h you acknowledge is the daily dose of catnip you're fed by the DNC State Controlled Marxist Media where lies and inuendoes magically become t***h. You're spun so tight that if your spring ever breaks you'll be shot far into space.

Obama & Biden have no indictments because both their AG's protected them. Two tier justice system in full bloom.
You silly simpleton. The Marxist Left began calli... (show quote)


Name Calling people “silly simpletons”( which is demeaning, non moral and doesn’t encourage ongoing civil discussions) just because they have a different fact based opinion vs your unsupported conspiracy theories, your lack of trust in government, it appears you are projecting again your own shortcomings to others.

I can take your unsupported statements above and change Trump to Biden, DNC to GOP, left to right and it would just as true only I’ve listed numerous facts in this string of posts that supported the statements as changed vs your totally unsupported statement.
You are entitled to your opinion, I respect that but totally disagree.
Cheers, Thanks for sharing.
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Dec 13, 2023 13:00:10   #
Big Kahuna wrote:
Trump knew he won by a landslide and we knew it too. We knew it was stolen by the dems and deep staters. I can completely understand why Trump is so pi$$ed as we are. I can also see why the dems, corrupt judges and corrupt media are trying to shut it all down and try and imprison those who are exposing the t***h. It can never rest until the real facts are laid out in an honest and impartial court of law, if any exist nowadays.


Three years later-“Trump knew he won by a landslide”- he lost by 7m-8M popular v**e, he lost over 60 cases trying to over turn e******n, he tried to coerce Mike Pence to not accept e*******l college state submissions and send it back to states, he ask state Gov and Secretary of State in Georgia to just find +11,000 v**es needed to change Georgia e******n results, he incited MAGA core to go to the capital to stop e*******l college v**e stating Mike Oence could stop v**e and he didn’t- hang Mike Pence started in crowd, most of his circle including his own daughter said publicly he lost- so he turned to corrupt people for plans to steal the e******n- many illegal, swing states did recounts, audits and validated in some states with paper b****ts, DOJ- stated investigations found no fraud or irregularities that would have changed the results, Trump appointed director of security stated most secure e******n ever, 1000’s of J6 participants have been indicted, hundreds found guilty by courts and serving sentences from parole to extended jail time- many claiming they were following Trumps direction.
So the entire justice system( even many judges appointed by Trump ), entire Dept of justice ( even those appointed by Trump, his own daughter stated she agreed with Bill Barr that the e******n wasn’t stolen and Trump lost, his loss denial has continued for past three years- just a continuation of his s*******s acts.
Everyone is wrong or corrupt except Trump - who has NO PROOF the e******n was s****n and Trump is under indictment for trying to steal the e******n himself.

Thru all that you still say e******n was s****n from Trump when all facts indicate otherwise and with no proof to support your opinion. It appears to me you trust nothing related to government or no statements other than those made by Trump- The proven King of Liars.
Weak case you have in my view, you are entitled to your unsupported opinion a I am entitled to my fact supported opinion, I opt to totally disagree with your opinion, I’ll stick with my fact supported opinion.

I’d sure like to see your evidence 2020 was stolen vs just words of Trump the King of Liars.
This is like a poker game, you can’t win the hand if you never show your cards, can’t say I have a better hand, throw in cards face down and try to collect the bet pot.
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Dec 13, 2023 12:00:10   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
The way that dude lies? But you can't name five. #STFU until you can back up your BULLS**T!


I’ve referred you to Wall Street Journal fact checker on Trump and Biden, Trump ran at over 30,000 lies in four years, Biden running at about 100/ year rate. Trump has seldom if ever corrected any of his lies, Biden has many times corrected his lies. Allowing any lying is a low bar but Trump is first again- King of lying.
Even if WSJ was overstated for Trump by 50% and understated for Biden by 50%(which neither are true) it would be 15,000 to 800- not even close.
30,000 is a lot more than five, Trump continues his lies. Look up “Trump recent lies” on internet, it’s loaded- WSJ, Politico and a few others are tracking. You can look up same for Biden as well- no comparison to the number and seriousness of Trumps lies vs Biden’s- Trump has earned the King of Liars title.
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Dec 13, 2023 11:40:06   #
Ronald Hatt wrote:
Typical of brain damaged Demoncrrap...unable to think on his own, "OR", out of the box!
Calling Demoncrrap vs Democrats is demeaning to others and not a high morality trait by you

~Trump has been tried...Convicted..., & sentenced in the feeble mind of the Demoncraps, that brought us :

Trump has been tried and convicted of fraud-Trump University, defamation and sexual abuse- Jean Carroll conviction, and guilty of fraud in summary judgement by NY Judge.
Grand juries of area citizens ( like you or me)investigated , found sufficient evidence of wrong doing, DA’s felt evidence was prosecutable, took finding to trial where two jury’s of peers “ unanimously “ found Trump/ and or Trump university guilty. That how the justice system works- Trump has not appealed the Trump University fraud case nor Jean Carroll case and has paid restitution in those- guilty as charged by USA court system not feeble minded Demoncraps that bought us( who is us?)

Slick Willie, & his Wife "K**lery"[ Both Immoral, & corrupt]...Bath House Barry"Obama" ...Drug user, & seller...R****t

Demeaning names again that are not civil, no value add and don’t forward civil discussion or understanding and no supporting facts just your own biased opinion- appears you could even be projecting yourself on others . Hillary went under extended hours of testimony, full blown congressional investigation and found no corruption ,
supreme white h**er, & just as corrupt as Clinton...Then, if that's not enough corruption, & Immorality....The

No corruption found here, just hearsay and conspiracy theory and extension of your partisan h**e rhetoric .
*Demoncrat v**er* has handed us "Joe Biden, ~The most corrupt, & inept President we have ever had!

Trump rated 41st of 45 presidents who have served, he has two impeachments in house-a first, He has three guilty judgements- a p**********l first, he has 91 open indictments a p**********l first, his administration has over 100 TIMES (except for Nixon - 5 times)more indictments that any other - see chart. Bill , Hillary, Obama and Biden have none of these in past or pending at this time- appears you are projecting Trumps documented wrong doings and crimes into others. Unsupported conspiracy theories are not typically tracked or viable unless litigated.

This is the "Political A******n of our life time, & the History of this Republic!

Trumps actions in office and after: first to not participate in smooth t******r of p***r after e******n, first to exhaust all legal means to overturn certified e******n and for three years with no proof, continue to claim 2020 e******n was s****n.

& we can all than the DEMONCRAPS!

"MILOSIA...HAVE YOU EVER DONE ANYTHING RIGHT?" Ever had a clean, honest thought? Ever even Think?
Typical of brain damaged Demoncrrap...unable to th... (show quote)

Milosia seems to accept facts that’s clearly right, Milosia seems to have facts to back her opinions, and appears to be able to distinguish fact from fiction, conspiracy theories from t***h. She definitely reads, listens absorbs facts and determines her supported opinion. I wish more people on this forum could do the same.

Note: I answered each of your statements above with fact supported statements of my own below each statement with some observations on your appearance to be projecting yourself and your leaders traits onto others.


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