So let's establish what law is, check this out:

"It is apparent, next, that it was necessary for law to be divinely given to man. just as the acts of irrational creatures are directed by God through a rational plan which pertains to their species, so are the acts of men directed by God inasmuch as they pertain to the individual, as we have shown. But the acts of irrational creatures, as pertaining to the species, are directed by God through natural inclination, which goes along with the nature of the species. Therefore, over and above this, something must be given to men whereby they may be directed in their own personal acts. And this we call law.

Again, the rational creature, as we have said, is so subjected to divine providence that he even participates in a certain likeness of divine providence, in so far as he is able to govern himself in his own acts, and also others. Now, that whereby the acts of such agents are governed is called law. Quite appropriately, then, law was given to men by God.

Besides, since law is simply a certain rational plan and rule of operation, it is fitting that law be given only to those beings who know the rational character of their work. Now, this is proper only to a rational creature. Therefore, it was appropriate that law was given to the rational creature only.

Moreover, law should be given to those having the ability to act and not to act. Now, this is true of the rational creature only. Therefore, only the rational creature is capable of receiving law.

Furthermore, since law is nothing but a rational plan of operation, and since the rational plan of any kind of work is derived from the end, anyone capable of receiving the law receives it from him who shows the way to the end. Thus does the lower artisan depend on the architect, and the soldier on the leader of the army. But the rational creature attains his ultimate end in God, and from God, as we have seen in the foregoing. Therefore, it is appropriate for law to be given men by God.

Hence it is said in Jeremiah (31:33): “I will give my law in their bowels”; and in Hosea (8:12; Douay modified): “I shall write my manifold laws for them.”

.....Got to Love St. Thomas Aquinas..........

Who still hasn't answered my questions on his religious debate thread.....

he, she, who cares? That person then....lol...How the heck are you these days? Lol

In order to have me to accept this statement as it is written, I want to ask you a question myself,

Have you followed Laura's investigations? If so, where does she lie, if that is what you are saying?

It is not lying if you can demonstrate that the statement is true.

If it's the episode of the angle, I believe he is misunderstanding the episode. I think Ingram used the term immigrant to mean, "a person who moves from one place to another", rather than making the distinction between one who comes here legally and one who comes illegally. Those who immigrate to America legally, become citizens and are no longer immigrants. Those who do it illegally, have disrupted the way of life of those who did it legally and may not become citizens. And the non-citizen, is a burden to the citizen. Therefore, the non-citizen takes the job away from the citizen. By taking the job away from the citizen, the job is also taken away from the legal immigrant. Therefore, I believe Laura, lumped the legal immigrant in with the citizen, therefore the statement, "The i*****l i*******t or Immigration, is taking jobs away from the citizen."

I'll tell you what, that took some effort to get strait... whew.

I was asking Nick, if these were his complaints. Did you read the post? Lol

I'm waiting for Nick to respond.

Thus,the crystal ball is broken

And SCOTUS has made mistakes before, I refer to the Dred Scott decision in 1858, which fueled the civil war in 1860.

Okay folks,

Remember that it was God that ended s***ery through His Son, Jesus Christ. Even in this country, the Negro was freed by the Quakers. And the check written to the Negros was cashed by another Christian, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Who spoke out against black nationalists.

With God, as St Thomas Aquinas had said, there is freedom, without God there is only s***ery. And that s***ery is not of the law or those who enforce the law, but the giving in to the animal nature of man, or as Christ said, "the father of the world" which He referred to as the devil. Therefore, according to natural law, when a species, such as human, asks outside of his function in the universe, he is then ens***ed by his animal, or worldly desires.

It is that, not religion, not politics, not money, but free will---the ability to revolt against God and the Devil. Free will, is the reason, and only in God can freewill flourish.

Now that I posted the problem: The Seven Deadly Sins,
and I posted the solution: The Seven Heavenly Virtues,

All that's left is to execute the virtues and avoid committing the sins.

To accomplish this, we need to first have people who try not to be Hippocrates. Who are dedicated to and committed to doing the right thing.

First let's establish human rights.
The Bill of rights, and the subsequent amendments, should suffice, and have been long established, therefore that can stay the same.

What needs to change is the enforcement and exercise of those rights.

The first amendment guarantees me four things:
1. freedom of religion,
2. freedom of speech, and the press,
3. Freedom of assembly, and
4. the freedom to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The second amendment grants me the freedom to defend myself against the government.

The third amendment grants me the freedom to prevent the government from forcing me to quarter soldiers in my house, without my consent.

The fourth amendment grants me the freedom to be secure in my person, house, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures. It grants me the right that no Warrants shall be issued, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and the particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

The fifth amendment provides that no person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in land or naval forces, or in the M*****a, when in actual service in time of War or public danger.

It also grants me that nor any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

The sixth amendment guarantees me the right of in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; also to be confronted with the witnesses against me, and to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in my favor and to have the assistance of counsel for my defense.

The seventh amendment, for suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, then according to the rules of the common law.

and the eighth amendment guarantees the right that excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

These are the only rights, we as citizens of the United States need, to function as a country. However, due to r****m, and other negative aspects of the war between the states, known as the American Civil War, three other amendments are necessary. They enforce the above eight to the fullest extent. These amendments are:


13th amendment: neither s***ery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

14th amendment:

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to v**e at any e******n for the choice of e*****rs for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age,* and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in r*******n, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or e*****r of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in i**********n or r*******n against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a v**e of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing i**********n or r*******n, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of i**********n or r*******n against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any s***e; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

and the 15th amendment:

The right of citizens of the United States to v**e shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude--

We must also add, the 16th amendment and the 26th amendment, which states the same as the 15th only concerning sex, or anyone over the age of eighteen.

Now that we established based upon the constitution the way of the solution... I will post how we should enforce the solution.

Yea, I might need it.

Perhaps you may be correct, but is being right, what you want to be? or solve the problem?

Yes, I agree that your time is valuable, I get that. And there are some you would invest in. Being that to be true, let me take a crack at her. What say you? What's the worst that can happen?

I just think, that if some people are curious, why must we first attack them for how they were conditioned.

Remember you taught me, that we must be smarter and wiser than that.....remember?

Okay Nick, I see you faced the seven deadly sins, head on. And as a person who listens, I can say your complaint against religion is founded in t***h. So, I have empathy, however, for you to turn away from God, and blame God, for men and women in committing sins, you are then blaming the wrong horse.

Now, how is a religious group a h**e group?
I never understood that concept. And here's why,

Some religious groups, especially Christian groups are founded on peace, not war. Christianity has always preached for peace, and Christ, the head of the Church taught, "Love Thy Neighbor". So, to blame the whole organization for believing in Christ, because the actions of a few is selfish and unfair. Therefore, many people here on the OPP will challenge you, often in fighting words, on that subject. I am not going to do that. Instead, what I am going to do is explore your post, and tell you where I think you are right, and where the conclusion is wrong.

The Bible is a collection of books, that are believed to be inspired by the word of God. That is all the books are. The book is a record of one family's plight through life, the ages and for all time. That one family was the family of Adam. With that being said, I will speak about the Judeo-Christian belief, and nothing else. I can only speak in what I know.

The family of Adam is a story of innocence that was, at an early age, attacked by the angels. This attack was so bad against the species that fear that rests in every human being, is derived from that attack. From that point on, mankind has healed from that attack. However, the story is also about promises that were fulfilled, and promises that are to come.

The book also establishes in an ancient way, a method of gaining fidelity with God. In the whole of the book, since the book was written by man, man recognizes both God and the devil. The good and evil.

Using the mentality of man through the ages, the evidence and interpretation of the evidence has brought to life a rich knowledge to mankind that is preserved to those who were not there.

When I was younger, I thought I could prove God. The problem is that if a person does not accept God or is angry at God, that person is not open enough to understand God, therefore can never appreciate that God speaks to man, through man. But God does not stop communicating to man through man, but resorts to nature, and all things created.

God is trying to prove He exists, where the devil or adversary seeks to prove, that the devil does not exist.

Now that's many contradictions, we can put that on hold. Let's sum up some of your complaints.

1. A school shoving religion onto brainwashed children and failed to teach them much of known science when it conflicted with their religious teachings.

2. The church authority is only interested in money.

3. discriminating against the L***Q community by taking away their human rights.

4. a******n issue.

5. Christian Churches are responsible for the murder over the past 2,000 years.

I am checking if this is your complaint before I respond. Did I about sum up your complaint?

Being insulted means you won your argument. But that still does not make you feel better. If a person who is debating with you becomes vicious in the sense that the insults become personal, you are the better person.