The problem is this is about email.
People just don't care about rules made by the government about email.
People figure if there's a federal case to be made because of a criminal act then ok.
Otherwise, it's just more government BS.
How ironic that a leader of the party that always sides with more federal rules, regulations and control now sees the disadvantage of such a philosophy?
Maybe this will shape her presidency toward the right if Trump doesn't have the guts to win it all.

What is most incredible to me is how more than 90% who buy Obamacare get a subsidy and the average subsidy is over $3,300 which is way over the $2,500 projected savings declared by Obama years ago.

Why are you against George Washington?
Forget history and what this country is founded on?

Bigger than tax returns is going to be the chronic groping at those beauty pageants. Daughter had a Freudian slip the other day in an interview by mentioning it but it wasn't even part of the question. So even his family knows it is his Achilles heel.

Now, he likely paid them all off years ago with settlements that they legally have to give the settlement back if they talk. But he's running for president and the deep pockets of the Romney anti-Trump will likely offer to pay off the settlement penalty plus make them better offers if they go ahead and tell all.

If he can get away with not revealing them, it's to his advantage. Romney's making a case out of it, not me. But the practical reality is if it wasn't an embarrassing and difficult PR thing, he'd already publically posted them. Same with Sanders. They're both scared because there's stuff there that makes them look like hypocrites.

I like how Trump works his tax lawyers to ensure he pays as little as possible. What's wrong with that?

Don't pretend that revealing the tax returns would damage him and make it harder for him to win.

That's all I'm saying.

You love to kiss Trump ass. He'd love to cradle you into one of those huge orange pores on his face to smooth out his complexion or even out his turkey neck cleavage.

Wasn't writing about that because as long as it is declared, off-shore is no problem and that's what Romney had but the thing about Romney is that prior years didn't have to be declared (and that's what the deal was about, that he was one of those that was able to get a pass because Obama forgave anyone who declared offshore accounts and began to pay taxes). Rather, I was writing about private corporation offshore does not owe the home country (USA) any taxes until they bring it home. It's legit and due to simple compounding, the saved US taxes are reinvested in the company, accelerating growth and value asset. When it's sold and brought back in, it may or may not be 35% depending on tax lawyers ability to depreciate capital.

Also disagree with what you wrote about the government not accepting the return if under audit. Point is, the return has already been accepted. It's just now the IRS has the right to challenge it. If you stand by what was submitted, you expect to explain and succeed the challenge. But I agree with what you wrote. After all, that's why Trump is so scared to reveal them. Because it is a PR nightmare that he can't deal with.

Except for the "hidden" part and the thing at the end about not releasing under audit, I generally agree. For instance, I never wrote about hiding money in tax havens rather, I noted how he moved it there as a legal loophole to avoid tax liability. When there is no rule against it, a loophole is one that you use to your advantage. The complexity of the tax code often benefits the claimant to simply make a claim if there is no specific form or application for it. To claim use of a private jumbo jet for business expense to make a deal at a golf club in Caribbean, that is solely based on the claim. Similar things like that may be done so many times by the army of tax lawyers that the government may end up owing Trump money. Even if an auditor disagrees with a claim, it can get tied up on court and the IRS has to make priority things that are expressly illegal and just don't have the time and resources to battle differences of opinion in a court when they would rather be going after fraud or those "hidden" shelters you thought I was writing about.

The main point is that Trump is a chicken. He won't want to have to explain all these "legal but complicated" scenarios morning, noon and night. He'd end up saying, "My tax advisers told me to do it, it's not my fault, they told me to do it."

Just like he's doing now with the audit excuse. It's under audit, so what? If you have nothing to hide and are honest and trustworthy, then the audit will support your tax returns. But if you are worried there are exaggerations or claims that the average person would boo and that only a tax lawyer would be comfortable with, then you hide like Trump. That makes perfect sense.

He will never do it. He's too chicken to show what's in it. If he does, I guess it will be because he's way ahead in the polls and if it is a week or so to the e******n, it would be too late for opponents to wade through the thousands of pages and coordinate a campaign to criticize it. These are some of the things that are probably the reason he will never release it:

-Offshore Tax Shelters for his private corporations while at the same time he criticizes publicly traded corporations for doing the same to avoid paying taxes.
-Using immigrant labor for short-term projects like construction or seasonal peak hotel or golf country club business.
-Wealth sheltering by moving cash into valuable collections or real estate and then labeling it an estate or trust to avoid future tax liability.
-Exaggerations about the tax benefit of luxury items like calling his private jumbo jet a second home, writing off vacations on it as "doing business" or use as charitable cause.
-Claiming the Hotel is a home and depreciating the cost of the spa with a doctor's note that it is to treat an illness.
-Writing off the army of tax lawyers as the cost of filling a tax return

These are all legal but even his anti-PC campaign would not be able to prevent him from constantly being on the defense that he did nothing wrong.

Can't really use that one without being schooled because almost 9/10 that got Obamacare had an average subsidy of $3,168 or $264/mo. That's well above the $2,500 he projected.

I think the biggest lie applies to about everyone and it's when the politician declares they believe they will be the best president. Not only lying to us by also lying to themselves. But to their credit, they know that no one would ever v**e for them if they honestly said they have no clue if they will be the best president but they really want the job because they like the idea of being in charge and in control of stuff and controlling those they don't like or those they strongly disagree about ideologies.

Liberalism is the belief in freedom and equal rights generally associated with such thinkers as John Locke and Montesquieu. Liberalism as a political movement spans the better part of the last four centuries, though the use of the word liberalism to refer to a specific political doctrine did not occur until the 19th century. The Glorious Revolution of 1688 in England laid the foundations for the development of the modern liberal state by constitutionally limiting the power of the monarch, affirming parliamentary supremacy, passing the Bill of Rights and establishing the principle of 'consent of the governed'. The 1776 Declaration of Independence of the United States of America founded the nascent republic on liberal principles without the encumbrance of hereditary aristocracy; the declaration stated that "all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, among these life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness," echoing John Locke's phrase "life, liberty, and property".

At the turn of the 20th century, liberalism was on the ascendant. The bastion of autocracy, the Russian czar, was o*******wn in the liberal revolution of 1917 and the Allied victory in the First World War and the collapse of four empires, seemed to mark the triumph of liberalism across the European continent, not just among the victorious allies, but also in Germany and the newly created states of Eastern Europe. Militarism, as typified by Germany was defeated and discredited. As Blinkhorn argues, the liberal themes were ascendant in terms of “cultural pluralism, religious and ethnic toleration, national self-determination, free-market economics, representative and responsible government, free trade, unionism, and the peaceful settlement of international disputes through a new body, the League of Nations.”

The social liberal program launched by President Roosevelt in the United States, the New Deal, proved very popular with the American public. In 1933, when FDR came into office, the unemployment rate stood at roughly 25 percent. The size of the economy, measured by the gross national product, had fallen to half the value it had in early 1929. The e*******l victories of FDR and the Democrats precipitated a deluge of deficit spending and public works programs. In 1940, the level of unemployment had fallen by 10 points to around 15 percent. Additional state spending and the gigantic public works program sparked by the Second World War eventually pulled the United States out of the Great Depression. From 1940 to 1941, government spending increased by 59 percent, the gross domestic product skyrocketed 17 percent, and unemployment fell below 10 percent for the first time since 1929. By 1945, after vast government spending, public debt stood at a staggering 120 percent of GNP, but unemployment had been effectively eliminated. Most nations that emerged from the Great Depression did so with deficit spending and strong intervention from the state.

At the beginning of the Second World War, the number of democracies around the world was about the same as it had been forty years before. After 1945, liberal democracies spread very quickly. Even as late as 1974, roughly 75 percent of all nations were considered dictatorial, but now more than half of all countries are democracies. Liberalism faces recurring challenges, however, including conservatism and religious fundamentalism in several regions throughout the world. The rise of China is also challenging Western liberalism with a combination of authoritarian government and economic reforms that preceded democratization.

Liberalism did not emerge as a doctrine of how to simply govern people, but rather, as a technology of governing that arose from the timeless critique of excessive government - “a search for a technology of government that could address the recurrent complaint that authorities were governing too much.”

Despite all the good Liberalism gave the world, it now has become the opposite of it's history in the US. When did "Liberals" = "Big Government, Taxpayer Waste, Over Spending, Deficits"?

It appears to me that after most of the World recognized Liberalism as the most practical and successful path to social and economic freedom, the US Conservative party began noting all the problems that too much Liberalism impacts.

And rightly so. Without a balance, both Liberalism and Conservatism reap diminishing returns. Conservatism led civilization through Ancient History and up to the Renaissance. It had a purpose to promote consistency, service to the state above self-interests. With that, it was cool to work for the common good rather than go off on your own. The biggest advances in civilization happened with conservative authoritarianism. Sure, there wasn't much liberty, but there were many great roads built, aqueducts, plumbing, mass farming, fishing and livestock with a conservative authoritarian structure that emphasized s***ery and sacrifice of individual liberty for the good of the state.

However, it was eventually realized how profit can motivate individuals to freely and liberally serve the community without a conservative authority demanding it. The enlightenment occurred and so did the industrial revolution. But after the success of FDR and LBJ liberalism, Ronald Reagan countered:'

- "Government is not the answer to the problem. Government is the problem."
- "The most frightening words in the English language are 'I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you.'"

However, the historical debt and S&L fiasco following his term led a majority to question that counter. After the economic success from the liberal Clinton terms and in retrospect of the GWB failed economic plans that were conservative philosophies and included Social Security "Reform", it is no wonder the liberal socialist BHO was elected to two terms.

But after two terms of BHO and an economic growth that may as well be considered "FLAT", is liberalism going to be embraced?

As long as economics are considered, conservatives will emphasize the need to change while liberals will make an argument how the economy is fine but the problem is we need more Unions and government intervention to control a minimum wage, overtime and economic growth.

You're not turning into Politically Correctness Police, are you? I didn't think anyone was exempt from PC. Have you become a t*****r to the cause?

“I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it t***hful hyperbole.” (pg. 58)
The Art of the Deal

You have to remember that with Trump, you don't get anything for nothing. There's always a deal to be made. The right folks, if they want Trump to release the tax returns, can influence him to do it for a deal. You can get anything from Trump if you respectfully offer an exchange for something he wants. For example, presently Trump wants to have Paul Ryan's endorsement. If someone can promise him that for a release of the tax returns, he'll do it.

Then he'll walk back all the recent statements about it not being anyone's business or waiting for the audit to be over.