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Sep 15, 2017 22:36:27   #
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
You obviously like Google. How's this?
(October 1, 2016 through September 30, 2017)

People In Household Maximum Monthly Allotment
1 $ 194
2 $ 357
3 $ 511
4 $ 649
5 $ 771
6 $ 925
7 $ 1,022
8 $ 1,169
Each additional person
$ 146

Adds pretty quick doesn't it? Don't forget that is every month. Not a bad salary for turning out a bunch of kids who are being injected into the welfare stream as well.

And don't forget the original SS witholding money we paid in went into an interest bearing account which was designed to be self sufficient until it was raided and reassigned to dead end projects. Amen.
You obviously like Google. How's this? br (Octobe... (show quote)

[Irony warning]
Boy those folks are livin' high on the hog!
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Sep 15, 2017 21:29:42   #
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
May I remind you I personally paid into SS from 1951 to 1994. How is recovery of some of my money welfare?
Are you really that misinformed or just believe the totally stupid who call SS benefit entitlements. It is people like me that makes the thing work. Those presently working are ivesting in their future as well.

Googling "do people get back more from social security than they paid in"

According to the institute's data, a two-earner couple receiving an average wage — $44,600 per spouse in 2012 dollars — and turning 65 in 2010 would have paid $722,000 into Social Security and Medicare and can be expected to take out $966,000 in benefits. Feb 1, 2013

But couples today:
Many of those retiring will have paid more into the coveted entitlement program than they will get back. ... Couples now in their early 40s will have forked over $808,000 in Social Security taxes by the time they retire, but get back only $703,000 in benefits. Apr 14, 2013

So average couple retiring in 2010 get about a 33% return over amount paid in, but couple in early 40s will get about 13% less. Maybe today's SS collectors should have their v**es reduced by 33% and couple in 40s today have their v**es increased by 13% when they retire.

Maybe you would like the system H.L.Hunt proposed in Alpaca, where older wealthier people get more v**es.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2000/09/25/editorial3.html
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Sep 15, 2017 20:35:14   #
dangerkitten061 wrote:
As far as I am concerned if "We the people" pay Your food and rent, In other words if you live off the government dole, you should forgo your v**e until you are off of it. Sorry!!

So people who collect Social Security shouldn't be allowed to v**e?
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Sep 15, 2017 20:32:28   #
eagleye13 wrote:
"Gerrymandering works both ways. It was invented by Eldridge Gerry, a Massachusetts Democrat. It has been used far more by Democrats than by Republicans."
I tink acknowledgeurma will have a problem with this.

What will I have a problem with, that gerrymandering has been used far more by Democrats than by Republicans? I could ask where you got the data to support "far more", but wh**ever party does it, it is an anti-democratic practice and should not (in my opinion) happen. But then, I'm not even sure first-past-the-post districts promote democracy.

If Democrats have historically used gerrymandering more than Republicans, lately Republicans have developed it into a fine art. See:

http://www.businessinsider.com/partisan-gerrymandering-has-benefited-republicans-more-than-democrats-2017-6
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Sep 15, 2017 13:11:41   #
Ricktloml wrote:
Frighteningly that is the goal. We have had 50+ years of l*****t control of our education system, our media and Hollywood. Conservatives mistakenly thought no freedom loving American could possibly believe the nonsense being spouted. It would seem we gave a lot of fellow citizens more intellectual credit than they deserved. I don't know about a revolution, what we have is more like cancer, slowly rotting out the core, the left , like evil doesn't simply go away when faced with a loss, they are relentless in their goals of gaining and wielding power and control. I think it is incredibly difficult for a lot of Americans to come to grips with the fact that many in America would accept s***ery to the state as a preferred option. And many are just now starting to realize that the left is absolutely serious about undermining our liberties and way of life. The left's formula-(1) propaganda and indoctrination, (2) coercion, (3) violence, (4) s******n and treason
Frighteningly that is the goal. We have had 50+ ye... (show quote)

Ricktloml wrote, "And many are just now starting to realize that the left is absolutely serious about undermining our liberties and way of life."

What liberties, in particular, are "the left" serious about undermining? Can you describe this "way of life"?
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Sep 15, 2017 12:56:05   #
Loki wrote:
The politicians everyone loves to b***h about did not elect themselves. If you call having a working knowledge of YOUR government being an "elite," then yes. People are v****g who literally have no idea what or who they are v****g for. I personally have talked to people who were going to v**e a straight Republican (or Democrat) ticket who literally had no idea who was running for what office, who their Senators were, who their Representatives were, who the Vice-President was, whether or not they were Democrat or Republican or Independent or Libertarian or anything else, who v**ed which way on what issue. There are people who cannot read v****g. How do they know who or what they are v****g for? I am saying that initially, only people who had something to lose could v**e. I am NOT saying that only property owning white males should be allowed to v**e. I AM saying that v****g qualifications should be a little more comprehensive than being able to fog a mirror. Other than military personnel, I don't think 18 year olds should be allowed to v**e. They can't buy booze, but they can v**e for who makes the laws? Many, perhaps most 18 year olds do not have fully developed brains yet. They have no life experience, no real conception of the real world, and frequently make bad decisions.
Our government is in a complete mess right now, and the politicians who screwed it up did not v**e themselves into office, nor did they re-elect themselves. You will never go broke betting on the ignorance and apathy of the average v**er. You would not consider letting someone who is totally unqualified build your house, but you let them build your government?
Yes, I believe that v****g should be restricted to an elite aristocracy. You can become a member of this aristocracy by caring enough to spend just a few days educating yourself on the government that impacts your and my life. You don't have to agree with me, but you should be informed enough to know enough about the issues and candidates to cast an intelligent v**e.
The politicians everyone loves to b***h about did ... (show quote)

Loki wrote, "...the politicians who screwed it up did not v**e themselves into office, nor did they re-elect themselves."

In Texas and I imagine a few other states, the politicians pretty much choose their v**ers, what with gerrymandering and all.
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Sep 15, 2017 12:49:28   #
eagleye13 wrote:
"Yes, I believe that v****g should be restricted to an elite aristocracy. You can become a member of this aristocracy by caring enough to spend just a few days educating yourself on the government that impacts your and my life. You don't have to agree with me, but you should be informed enough to know enough about the issues and candidates to cast C."
Yep;
At least we can dream.

So who determines what "informed enough to know enough about the issues and candidates" is? Who determines what "informed enough to know enough about the issues and candidates" is?
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Sep 15, 2017 00:29:26   #
Loki wrote:
"Equal v****g power?" Initially, v****g was limited to white male property owners. The rationale was that these people were considered "better" than others. At the time and place, this was probably true, since s***es and frequently women were illiterate or poorly educated at best. The idea was to only allow people who had something to lose the v**e; reason being that they should be more likely to take a serious interest in what they were v****g for.
To a certain extent perhaps that still holds true. I find it difficult to believe that an 18 year old fresh out of mommy and daddy's house, who has never held a job, or had any real responsibility, and whose decision making brain is not yet fully developed in many cases, should have the same "v****g power" as someone who is in his sixties, is a college educated military veteran, a former owner of one business and manager of another, and who has paid off two homes and raised two kids who are quite successful in their own right. (Ditto for a felon who has spent a large part of his life incarcerated.) Why should their v**es count as much as mine? Many of these people are barely literate, have never held a meaningful job or paid any taxes, or owned a home, or raised a family or served their country or done much of anything else except exhibit the ability to fog a mirror.
"Equal v****g power?" Initially, v****g ... (show quote)

Loki, it sounds as if, you think that there is an elite aristocracy that should determine the rules that govern the hoi polloi. Do you agree with the idea "to only allow people who [have] something to lose the v**e"?
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Sep 15, 2017 00:08:11   #
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING???

I'm not the smartest guy around, I'm not educated nor do I have any inside info, BUT I've read and looked up info about our Constitution... I'll name 3 pamphlets: 1.) Patriot's Handbook Of America Liberty; By Liberty Counsel, Orlando, FL 2.) Founders' Wisdom; www.PatriotPost.US 3.) The Constitution of The United States; National Center For Constitutional Studies...

No Place Can I Find Any Provisions For Free Medical Care or Welfare or Food Stamps, What I Do Find Is Something About The Freedom To Pursue Happiest, Period...

Some How The Socialist (C****e Lite) Have Swayed Our Law Makers And Public Into Thinking We The People Aren't Smart Enough To Figure Out "They" Are Buying V**es With Tax Payers Money! ENOUGH!!!

Why Additional Free Medical Care Is Need I Don't Get, Every State Has Medicare, And For Those With Zero Funds, They Have Medicaid (CA-Medical)...

For Those Who Become Unemployed (Meaning They Worked) There Is Unemployment Insurance Which Is Meant To help Till One Finds Another Job...

(On a Personal Note: I Started Working At 14 Because I Wanted To Be Independent, I'm Now Nearly 75 I Never Took Unemployment Money or Welfare or Food Stamps, I Always Worked IF I Wanted Too, Another Words I Played The Game of Life By My Rules Mostly, Everyone Can Do The Same If They Aren't Stupid or Lazy)...

Seems To Me "The Give Me Free Stuff & Snow Flakes" Have Way To Much To Say About Our Government And Country!!! Don D.
WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING??? br br I'm not the s... (show quote)

Look at the preamble:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

That pretty much lays out the purpose of the constitution. Did you notice that bit that says "promote the general Welfare"? The rest of the constitution lays out the design of a government that the founders hoped would achieve these goals.
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Sep 14, 2017 23:49:00   #
peter11937 wrote:
Jesus did not want his disciples to be pacifists, but to defend themselves where necessary from the criminals. That is expressed where he urges them to buy a sword if they have none. https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/7121/why-did-jesus-tell-his-disciples-to-buy-a-sword

And so, would you then ignore Matthew 5:38-48?

One of the many beauties of the Bible...in It may be found verse to justify anything. Sad.
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Sep 14, 2017 20:33:51   #
bdamage wrote:
I will tell you my reason for v****g for Trump......both parties despise him.
The elites on both sides have had their little club disrupted and they don't like that.

In the past I was for John Anderson and Ross Perot, both Independents....and also Ron Paul, the non-republican Republican.

The true colors of the g*******t-minded elites are easily exposed when one of their own is not at the helm.

Watching them ALL have repeated meltdowns over nothing-news, whether fabricated or dug up from decades ago, is quite amusing to watch.

"The Art of the Deal" is being well-displayed and I'm just sitting back waiting to see who will buckle and bow down first to being Trump's lap dog.

If you stay away from all TV news, except for maybe One America News(if you are lucky enough to get it), it is much easier to see this whole thing play out.
I will tell you my reason for v****g for Trump....... (show quote)

bdamage wrote, "The true colors of the g*******t-minded elites are easily exposed when one of their own is not at the helm."

Do you understand the following to be an accurate definition of g*******t:
a person who advocates the interpretation or planning of economic and foreign policy in relation to events and developments throughout the world.

And if so, do you consider it a bad thing to be a g*******t?
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Sep 14, 2017 18:05:32   #
Manning345 wrote:
These people need to be reined in:

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/350524-a****a-activists-say-violence-is-necessary


Did you even read the whole article? Near the end is the following:

“The way law enforcement has reacted to the protests far exceeds the amount of danger involved, particularly when we talk about violence at far-right protests — because there is a long and deep history of murderous violence coming out of the far-right movements that continues up to today that far exceeds anything associated with a****a,” said Mike German, a former FBI agent who works on law enforcement issues at the Brennan Center for Justice’s Liberty and National Security Program.
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Sep 14, 2017 16:07:09   #
pafret wrote:
What you say about demagogues and manipulation is true however how do you apply that to our nation where the predominant population in our prisons is the i******s. MS13 gang members are predominantly illegal and are the most vicious, hardened, criminals in the country. They blight and destroy every communuty where they get a foothold. I******s v**e in our e******ns and game the welfare system like cuckoo birds, and this is not stealing our birthrght? Their precarious presence, allows business owners to exploit them by paying low wages "off the books" and rigging hours of employment to minimize their costs while keeping the i******s in a form of s***ery and you don't think this should be eliminated?

This last e******n demonstrated that very few politicians or talking heads are in touch with the problems of b****s and the working poor, anywhere other than in cities. They did not address the cause of the poverty enmeshing these people or the slide into poverty of the former middle class. It is not protectionism when our laws have been r****d to ensure the flight of decent manufacturing jobs all over the world. Especially to the areas which supply most of the i******s; we have exported our wealth and gotten their poverty cases in return. That is a recipe for dissolution and unless it is stopped we will cease to exist as a nation.

None of the pols other than Trump, presented a coherent approach to resolving the massive influx of alien invaders, much less shutting off the inflow. This is the United States of America, not Mexico. Our language is English, not Spanish and my children's schools should not be overcrowded with the children of i*****l a***ns who cannot speak the language and perforce d**g down the progress of all students.
What you say about demagogues and manipulation is ... (show quote)

pafret wrote, "What you say about demagogues and manipulation is true however how do you apply that to our nation where the predominant population in our prisons is the i******s."

Where did you get the idea that the predominant (present as the strongest or main element) population in our prisons is the "i******s"?
In:
http://thehill.com/latino/331619-doj-releases-data-on-incarceration-rates-of-illegal-immigrants

We can read, "Of the 45,493 foreign-born inmates in the federal prison system made up of 188,658 inmates, the Justice Department said 3,939 are U.S. citizens." Surely, at slightly more than 3/4ths, citizens (born in the USA) are the predominant population.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:38:38   #
peter11937 wrote:
Perhaps you might want to explore this site... www.thereligionofpeace.com

I'm not sure why (in response to my post) you suggest I explore that site.
Because I mention propaganda, you recommend a propaganda site?
Because I mention reprehensible acts, you recommend a site linking Islam to reprehensible acts?
Could you explain why I might want to explore that site?

Other than presenting almost universally negative views of Islam, all the referenced articles I looked at, as I recall, had some criticism of l*****ts. Is that why you recommend that site? Why should I explore another site, when I can get a plethora of l*****t criticism here on OPP? ;)

One interesting article the site links to is:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/05/25/shia-vs-sunni-the-schism-western-politicians-dont-understand-and-wont-discuss/

After the breitbart mandatory (I suppose) left bashing, the article gives what seems to be a fairly error free description of various Muslim sects and their mutual antagonisms. Hardly a description of a monolithic threat from Islam.
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Sep 14, 2017 13:50:49   #
okie don wrote:
California keeps talking about it too.

TX is pretty self sufficient in that they have oil and cattle plus much manufacturing.{ I lived in San Antonio 10 yrs}

[Irony warning]
And easy access to cheap exploitable labor!
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