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Jun 17, 2022 21:20:40   #
Weasel wrote:
In that event, we do have a Two Tier Government


Of course, we do.
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Jun 17, 2022 20:50:04   #
Weasel wrote:
Very ironic, with a lot of questions to be answered about this security breach.

https://youtu.be/F6m_n9ES4AE


I doubt anything will happen with Schiff.
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Jun 17, 2022 20:08:10   #
According to liberals/Democrats she may be the first person in history who had a spouse in Congress, the White House, or the SCOTUS who ever talked to their spouse about current affairs. They are so desperately pathetic searching for anything to make into an issue since they cannot run on their record.
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Jun 17, 2022 19:53:23   #
proud republican wrote:
Happy Fathers Day weekend to all dads on OPP!!


Thank you.
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Jun 17, 2022 19:39:15   #
RascalRiley wrote:
With people like Ginni there is no doubt the republicans will take over control of the Divide States of America.

She is a force to be reckoned with and has a direct line to SCOTUS.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/03/16/thom-m16.html


Biden has done more to divide the nation than any President in my lifetime.
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Jun 17, 2022 19:20:30   #
Ri-chard wrote:
The incident occurred in the shadows of the J*** 6 r**t hearings, and C*****l P****e there is an "active criminal investigation" that "may result in additional criminal charges after consultation with the U.S. Attorney."

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/seven-individuals-arrested-capitol-hill-unlawful-entry?utm_source=breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter


They will get a pass.
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Jun 17, 2022 17:40:02   #
pegw wrote:
I would be totally shocked if Trump showed up at the 1*6 hearings. Since his grip on the t***h is so tenuous, there wouldn't be any lawyer in his right mind that would advise him to testify.


Considering the make-up and motives of the committee he should definetly not appear. Never volunteer for an inquisition.
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Jun 17, 2022 17:24:58   #
working class stiff wrote:
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/14636256/2-31052022-AP-EN.pdf/3ba84e21-80e6-fc2f-6354-2b83b1ec5d35

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/


So, no, he didn't lie. European inflation is as high as US, and there are plenty of places where the inflation is much higher.


Higher in some places, lower in others. But according to you Biden has never told a lie since he has been President.
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Jun 17, 2022 14:20:39   #
slatten49 wrote:
I'm not sure I follow you. They're not from the same publications. The listing of 30000+lies by Trump was from the NY Times. The link you referenced is from The Federalist. It was given in response to Liberty Tree's request for Biden lies. As he meant a list of Biden lies from the NY Times...I misunderstood his specific request.

I see negligible differences between mine and your POV/perspectives.


You are right. Any publication that list Trump lies should accurately post Biden lies and vice versa.
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Jun 17, 2022 14:04:44   #
Haski123 wrote:
So you are saying the same publication that documented + 30000 Trump lies/missstatements using same criteria has a few dozen from Biden is biased. Fox clearly is not saying anything negative about Trump including not airing J6 c*******e so by default you are right. I bet I can find a heck of a lot more negatives for Biden than Trump on conservative networks. The various fact checkers tend to try to be politically neutral but it’s easy to say they aren’t. So you are right. Even if fact checker is biased 30000 lies over four years vs Biden dozens over 1-2 years, it’s either t***hfull or one huge bias. Reading the lies they are typically documented quotes that are wrong. Pretty hard to be biased there.
So you are saying the same publication that docume... (show quote)


Where are the Trump lies listed?
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Jun 17, 2022 13:33:34   #
microphor wrote:
So want some payback!


I will settle for just a little fairness.
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Jun 17, 2022 13:21:44   #
Haski123 wrote:
Here is what I found so far: Biden false claims so far is in the dozens, while Trump delivered well over 1,000 total false claims in his own first year . (About his past, C***d, economy, border & Afganistan we’re topic. Some cases he was talking off monitor and gave wrong facts.) not sure what your point on Biden lies are. Regardless of the number any lie is not good but less than 100 vs 1000 in a year is two a week vs 3a day. Trump was just warming up as it got worse each year in office.


Source? Who is doing the counting? That matters.
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Jun 17, 2022 12:05:44   #
slatten49 wrote:
https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/24/heres-the-full-list-of-every-lie-joe-biden-has-told-as-president-part-onehundredthirtynine-and-counting/

I know it's a stretch for you to realize that quotes and factual data backing up info on any link are subject to libel suits by the aggrieved party(ies), but try. Besides, the poster requested a listing of Trump's lies. I challenge anyone to post a list of his lies from right-wing sources. That is simply not in their DNA.

I welcome your proving me wrong.
https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/24/heres-the-ful... (show quote)


I asked for a list of Biden lies from the leftwing sources that listed Trump's alleged lies. Instead you tried to divert the attention to something else.
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Jun 17, 2022 11:33:52   #
slatten49 wrote:
In small print, here's one list I found.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html?mtrref=thehill.com&gwh=8F224B381D4EC953C3CB50C38232C0AD&gwt=pay&assetType=PAYWALL

Here's a few more tidbits.....

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/maryanngeorgantopoulos/president-trump-lie-list


If these are objective sources show us the list they are keeping of Biden's lies.
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Jun 17, 2022 10:45:16   #
slatten49 wrote:
Excerpt: "We must hope that J****** 6 was the final battle of at least the deadly war for America's democracy," writes former federal Judge J Michael Luttig, whom Ted Cruz has said is 'like a father' to him and also mentored MAGA f*****t lawyer John Eastman.

https://www.pfaw.org/blog-posts/who-is-michael-luttig-and-why-should-you-care-that-he-will-testify-before-the-january-6-committee/

6/16/22 by National Zero

"A stake was driven through the heart of American democracy on J****** 6, 2021, and our democracy today is on a knife's edge. America was at war on that fateful day, but not against a foreign power. She was at war against herself. We Americans were at war with each other – over our democracy. J****** 6 was but the next, foreseeable battle in a war that had been raging in America for years, though that day was the most consequential battle of that war even to date."

"In fact, J****** 6 was a separate war unto itself, a war for America's democracy, a war irresponsibly instigated and prosecuted by the former president, his political party allies, and his supporters. Both wars are raging to this day. A peaceful end to these wars is desperately needed. The war for our democracy could lead to the peaceful end to the war for America's cultural heart and soul. But if a peaceful end to the war for America's democracy is not achievable, there is little chance for a peaceful end to that war. The settlement of this war over our democracy is necessary to the settlement of any war that will ever come to America, whether from her shores or to her shores. Though disinclined for the moment, as a political matter of fact only the party that instigated this war over our democracy can bring an end to that war."

"Like our war from a distant time, these twin wars are 'testing whether this nation or any nation… so conceived in Liberty… can long endure.' We must hope that J****** 6 was the final battle of at least the deadly war for America's democracy," writes former federal Judge J Michael Luttig, whom Ted Cruz has said is "like a father" to him and also mentored MAGA f*****t lawyer John Eastman. Luttig testified to the House J****** 6th Select Committee on Thursday, a hearing centered on Trump and Eastman's effort to pressure Pence into overturning the e******n on J****** 6th.
Excerpt: "We must hope that J****** 6 was th... (show quote)


The J6 c*******e is a threat to democracy.
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