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Sep 24, 2017 15:49:08   #
Whoops, got distracted and left out phrase "would write".
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Sep 24, 2017 15:46:46   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>>>

Well it's not a Parody but factual if one does the research, why do you ask though ?

Well...if I were writing a parody of something someone wrapped up in an idiosyncratic fantasy, I would hope it were this weird.
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Sep 24, 2017 15:19:31   #
Docadhoc wrote:
BC/BS

What is BC/BS?
Beautiful Capitalism/Beastly Socialism ?
Bemused Creature/Basic Sense ?
Bewildering Calculus/Best Sensimilla ?
Bifrucated Colon/Bitter Spleen ?
By Chronos/Bull S..t ?
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Sep 23, 2017 16:16:48   #
Fahrenheit2017 wrote:
What does snarky mean?

Googling snarky:

adjectiveNorth Americaninformal
adjective: snarky; comparative adjective: snarkier; superlative adjective: snarkiest

(of a person, words, or a mood) sharply critical; cutting; snide.

I intended the "snide" usage.

Googling snide:

adjective
1.
derogatory or mocking in an indirect way.
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Sep 23, 2017 16:01:22   #
Fahrenheit2017 wrote:
Oh, you poor thing!

I read this as a kinda snarky thing to say. Was that your intent?
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Sep 23, 2017 15:12:17   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
Please Shepherd - Jurisdiction, Air, Land, and Sea
Posted: 21 Sep 2017

By Anna Von Reitz

What I want to get through to people today is the entire concept of jurisdiction.

The way the world is organized reflects the way the Earth is organized in separate "realms" of air, land, and sea.

Air is global in nature and deals with matters of energy, spirit and intellect. This is the realm of copyrights and patents and all intellectual property rights. This is also where we find ecclesiastical and canon law.

The realm of the sea is international in nature and deals with matters of commerce and trade between nations. This is where you find Sea Treaties affecting the flow of goods between nations and the Law of Nations affecting international agreements such as United Nations Declarations. This is the realm of Maritime (Commercial) Law and Admiralty (Martial) Law.

Finally, there is the Land which is national in nature. This is where you find - in America-- county and state law. Remember that in our country each state is a nation, so that the words "interstate" and "international" mean the same thing for us. This is the realm of American Common Law and the actual Constitution.

Please note that there are many forms of "Common Law" and you must specify "American Common Law" or you may easily find yourselves operating under "Martial Common Law" or "English Common Law" or wh**ever else a particular court may have on offer.

So--air, land, and sea also t***slates as global, national, and international.

Over time the Popes and the British Monarchs have colluded to usurp upon the national governments owed to the living people throughout the world and have sought to replace our national governments with governmental services corporations instead.

They have largely succeeded and have abused the trust of the entire world.

All incorporated entities (called legal fictions) are ultimately created in the realm of the air by the Roman Curia. C Corps, S Corps, LLCs, Trusts, Foundations and Cooperatives have all been created by the Roman Catholic Church's Secular Hierarchy headed by the Pope in his Office of the Pontiff.

So, although these things all function in the realm of commerce and under the Law of the Sea, they have their genesis and domicile in the realm of the air. As a result, the Pope and the Curia can control and disband any corporation on Earth -- including those functioning "as" governments.

The American situation is unique because its governmental functions in international jurisdiction have always been split between the delegated functions exercised by the British-controlled Territorial Government dba "United States" and the non-delegated "reserved powers" of the actual United States government doing business as The United States of America.

The Municipal United States Government arising out of Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 has been run as an independent international city-state organization out of Washington, DC.

Both the Territorial United States and the Municipal United States have long since been converted into corporations under the ultimate control of the Roman Curia and the Holy See, yet functioning in the realm of international commerce-- under the day-to-day control of the British Monarch.

The Popes and the British Monarchs thus surreptitiously empowered have contrived to "redefine" the nature of government on Earth into a form of Commercial Feudalism.

On the land there remain the Unincorporated Governments of the Earth--- the land jurisdiction governments of the nations of the world which have fallen asleep and one by one been overtaken by the creeping commercial rot from within.

Be aware that sovereignty is a characteristic which only unincorporated entities have, so that the only sovereign governments are unincorporated.

It has been the apparent intention of the Popes to incorporate all government organizations worldwide by offering these organizations benefits-- like the ability to go bankrupt, known as "limited liability"--- while purposefully leaving their own government, the Holy See, as the only unincorporated (and therefore only sovereign) government.

This has been done on the backs of the people who have had to absorb the losses of all these bankrupt for-profit entities.

Thus the s**m has been to entrap and ens***e both people and lawful land jurisdiction governments as "franchises" of governmental services corporations -- all of which have been subjected under the rule of the Holy See.

And the land jurisdiction governments and the people have been enticed into this "system" based on "benefits" which they have literally paid for themselves.

By providing some businesses and people limited liability at the cost of all the others, the Roman Pontiff has seduced virtually all world governments to incorporate and subject themselves to be ruled by the Holy See.

The only exceptions now are Iran, North Korea, The United States of America (Unincorporated) and a handful of Pacific Island Kingdoms.

In doing all this chicanery both the Holy See and the British Monarchs have operated in Gross Breach of Trust and under Color of Law and have used ample means of fraud and deceit to pursue their ends.

At which point it becomes self-evident that we have-- the entire Earth-- suffered at the hands of crime syndicates masquerading as the lawful government of Great Britain and the Roman Catholic Church: evil in high places, indeed.

The Holy See is not the Catholic Church.

The "United States" is not America and not the American states.

The United Kingdom is not Great Britain. Great Britain is not England.

It is high and holy time that all the people of the Earth woke up and put a stop to this fraud and demanded an end to this "system" of things.

We left Feudalism and Robber Barons behind a long time ago and, speaking for the American States and People--- who are the Priority Creditors of all these bankrupt Territorial and Municipal corporations worldwide--- we see no reason to go back to the Dark Ages.

It is time, rather, for the Church to be a Church, and for the government of England to return to the people.

We are in the process of re-venuing the American Government back to the land jurisdiction where it belongs.

Time for the rest of the world to get busy and do the same.
Please Shepherd - Jurisdiction, Air, Land, and Sea... (show quote)

Please tell me, this is another test of the validity of Poe's Law. Nice people give "parody warnings". :(
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Sep 23, 2017 14:42:40   #
Docadhoc wrote:
Would the word "disproportionately" sound better to you?

Where did I get this idea? 45+ years of working in the industry. Where do your ideas originate?

Docadhoc wrote, "No country on earth with socialized or national health care is anywhere near the population of America and like it or not, the cost rises exponentially. Double the population coverage costs much more than double the cost and America is as much as 5--10x the population of some of these countries being used as models."

Hmm...perhaps I should rephrase my question. I don't mean to ask for any justification of your authority to make the statement, "the cost rises exponentially". Being a Doc ad hoc (for this) might be justification enough. But what I would like to know are, what medical, economic, political, etc. factors support your statement?

I can think of a few economic ideas that might support (supply and demand) and some that might oppose (economies of scale).
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Sep 22, 2017 22:11:17   #
Docadhoc wrote:
Congress will not exclude the extremists because the extremists run congress.

It is obvious that the ACA is in a death spiral. If the democrats truly cared about people they would be working with the republicans to salvage every bit they can for these people they say they care about, but it is more important to the dems to use healthcare to discredit Trump et al than to provide for people like the young lady who began this thread.

I am very sympathetic to any who fear losing life sustaining coverage and I.doubt that will happen, but people need to face the reality that this coverage is not sustainable

No country on earth with socialized or national health care is anywhere near the population of America and like it or not, the cost rises exponentially. Double the population coverage costs much more than double the cost and America is as much as 5--10x the population of some of these countries being used as models. There are no realistic models, no comparisons. It is an apple/orange scenario at best. And some countries with national healthcare do it through private coverages, not governmental. Such as Germany with some 130+ insurance companies.

To that add the fact that now the left has admitted there is no possible way to fund a one payer system such as proposed by Bernie.

I would suggest to this above referred lady that she write Trump. He has intervened before and the effort will only cost a stamp and envelope.

These accusations of people dying due to.the proposed changes are unfounded.

Does anyone really believe career politicians would so willingly stick their necks in a noose then voluntarily jump off a building?
Congress will not exclude the extremists because t... (show quote)

Docadhoc wrote, "No country on earth with socialized or national health care is anywhere near the population of America and like it or not, the cost rises exponentially. Double the population coverage costs much more than double the cost and America is as much as 5--10x the population of some of these countries being used as models."

Hmm..."the cost rises exponentially"? Where did you get this idea?
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Sep 18, 2017 23:34:54   #
Big Bass wrote:
Hilarious! You are all delicate itty-bitty snowflakes.

Avalanches are made of itty-bitty snowflakes. :)
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Sep 18, 2017 23:33:54   #
Kevyn wrote:
Saul Alynski died in 1972 when President Obama was 11 years old and long before he moved to Chicago. It is puzzling why Alynski's writing gets the right wing nutters panties in a bunch, it is nothing more than a guide to how poor and oppressed people can gain some political voice and representation. The rules out of his book are also ridiculously misquoted when posted here. Here they are for those of you who aren't afraid of fact.

The Rules Edit
"Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources โ€“ money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood.
"Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
"Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can k**l them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
"A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
"A tactic that d**gs on too long becomes a d**g." Don't become old news.
"Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
"The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
"The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
"If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
"The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem.
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
Saul Alynski died in 1972 when President Obama was... (show quote)

Hmm...I think our President Trump may also be a student of Alynski.
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Sep 16, 2017 18:47:37   #
GmanTerry wrote:
I totally agree. However Maryland has a city where the City Council just v**ed to allow i*****l a***ns to v**e in city e******ns. The country has gone bonkers crazy.

Semper Fi

An interesting article on this is:

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/11/the-long-strange-history-of-non-citizen-v****g/504974/

In it is:
"Hayduk notes in a 2015 article for Journal of International Migration and Integration:

In fact, noncitizen v****g was abolished at the same time that other restrictive measures were also enacted by elites, including literacy tests, poll taxes, felony disenfranchisement laws, and restrictive residency and v***r r**********n requirementsโ€”all of which combined to disenfranchise millions of v**ers."

Notice the word "elites". I think it has ever been the case that people in positions of power have tried to control, shape, and assure their source of power. Even where the power is derived from the people governed, those who gain positions of power seem to tend to want to assure their positions with tools like literacy tests, poll taxes,...

Who among us thinks that the people governed should not have some say in who governs?
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Sep 16, 2017 17:31:04   #
EN Submarine Qualified wrote:
Funny, I responded to this before and it disappeared. Anyway, I agree with the post and wanted to add just a bit. I was'invited' to leave home at age 16. Never to return. From then on till now, I have never received anything except wages that were earned. That includes unemployment payments and thankfully never even had to be paid for a sick day.
After 10 years in the Navy and 32 years with the same employer, I retired. A bit miffed that I still pay income tax (state and fed) on my retirement pay and SS even at 83 years old. Give me a break!!! And then read about where the money goes, like Iran, obamaphones, EBT s**ms, etc. You bet, the snowflakes are deserving. It isn't Christian to state what they deserve but you get the idea.
Funny, I responded to this before and it disappear... (show quote)

You might be happy to know, your old employer (DOD) has spending of $813 billion for 2016 (assuming I read the budget report correctly), all of which we might assume was well spent.
Whereas other welfare (not SS, Medicare, or Medicaid) has spending of $369 billion.
I didn't see where Iran was getting anything from the US government. I assume you were referring to the billions of dollars from Iranian oil sells being held by the US.

Amounts from:
https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year_spending_2016USbn_18bs6n_2030#usgs302
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Sep 16, 2017 08:36:12   #
Loki wrote:
It stops when ignorant, apathetic v**ers are no longer allowed to v**e. That means never.

Isn't "apathetic v**ers" a near oxymoron? I mean, doesn't apathy lead one to not v**e? And because only God is alleged to know all, doesn't everyone v**e in some degree of ignorance?
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Sep 16, 2017 00:38:18   #
peter11937 wrote:
At the same time, possibly excluding the Sufi, Sunni, Shi'ite and the rest, would first k**l Americans, the great satan, then Jews, the little satan, any day of the week, and fight out their sectarian differences later. They are at war with western civilization and our governments failure to recognize it is dangerous.

Do you seriously believe this hyperbolic statement? Do you really believe the 3.3 million Muslims in America want to k**l other Americans and after that k**l members of the other sects? Who exactly is calling for war here?
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Sep 16, 2017 00:27:58   #
Loki wrote:
Republicans now control most state legislatures. They are using gerrymanders the same way the Democrats did when they controlled the majority of state legislatures. Actions have consequences and payback happens.

So if Democrats gain control they will be justified in gerrymandering? When does it stop?
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