Shirley [sic], you aren't so unfamiliar with online posts, that you can't make out the meaning of a statement despite typos? To help, "corner" and "hell".

I don't understand. You say you stand by your statement "that an unelected, lifetime appointment, liberal judge exercised power I do not believe he had to remove twice elected Judge Moore from his seat on Alabama Supreme Court." Are you then saying that the Wikipedia article is erroneous? Who is the "liberal judge" to whom you refer? In your previous comment, you accused this "liberal judge" of "legislating from the bench", but isn't that just what Judge Moore was found to have done (according to Wikipedia)?

And as for me giving "input, even tho [your] remarks were, [you] believe to Nickoli". Your remarks were to a public thread in response to a post by Nickolai. Thus to expect your remarks to be part of a private two way conversation, seems unusual, in that people on OPP are always "butting" into threads to give their two cents.

From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Moore#2016_suspension_from_the_bench_and_resignation
2016 suspension from the bench and resignation

On May 6, 2016, the Alabama Judicial Inquiry Commission (JIC) forwarded a list of six charges of ethical violations by Moore to the Alabama Court of the Judiciary.[58] Moore was suspended from the Alabama Supreme Court pending trial and ruling. Moore faced removal from office over the charges, which were more serious than those which removed him from office in 2003.[59][60] The JIC's complaint charged Moore with violating the Alabama Canon of Judicial Ethics by:[58]

disregarding a federal injunction.
demonstrated unwillingness to follow clear law.
abuse of administrative authority.
substituting his judgment for the judgement of the entire Alabama Supreme Court, including failure to abstain from public comment about a pending proceeding in his own court.
interference with legal process and remedies in the United States District Court and/or Alabama Supreme Court related to proceedings in which Alabama probate judges were involved.
failure to recuse himself from pending proceedings in the Alabama Supreme Court after making public comment and placing his impartiality into question.

On May 27, Moore filed a federal lawsuit against the JIC (Moore v. Judicial Inquiry Commission), alleging that his automatic suspension was unconstitutional.[61][62] On August 4, the federal district court dismissed Moore's suit, ruling that under the abstention doctrine, federal courts generally do not interfere with ongoing state court proceedings.[63][64]
Suspension by the Court of the Judiciary

In June 2016, Moore filed a motion to dismiss the JIC proceedings, arguing, among other things, that the JIC and Alabama Court of the Judiciary lacked jurisdiction to review Administrative Orders that he issued and that the orders of the Alabama Supreme Court were still in effect from the Alabama Policy Institute proceedings prohibiting the issuance of same-sex marriage licenses by probate judges in Alabama, despite the rulings in Obergefell v. Hodges issued by the U.S. Supreme Court, Searcy v. Strange, Strawser v. Strange, and the decision of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit, which held that the orders were abrogated by Obergefell.[58][65][66][67][68] The Court of the Judiciary set a hearing date for the motion to dismiss and ruled that it would be treated as a motion for summary judgment pertaining to the charges filed by the JIC.[69][70]

The Human Rights Campaign, an L**T rights group, responded: "It is clear that Roy Moore not only believes he is above the law, he believes he is above judicial ethics... Moore was tasked with upholding the law of the land when marriage e******y was affirmed by the Supreme Court of the United States, and he defied that task, in the process harming loving, committed same-sex couples across Alabama for his own personal, discriminatory reasons."[71]

In July 2016, the JIC filed a cross-motion for summary judgment, asking the Court of the Judiciary to issue summary judgment removing Moore from the bench. Attorneys for the JIC wrote: "Because the chief justice has proven—and promised—that he will not change his behavior, he has left this Court with no choice but to remove him from office to preserve the integrity, independence, impartiality of Alabama's judiciary and the citizens who depend on it for justice."[72][73][74] In their reply, Moore (through his attorneys at Liberty Counsel) denied that Moore had directed Alabama's probate judges to disobey an injunction issued by the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Alabama, asserting that the orders of the Alabama Supreme Court, which required Alabama's probate judges to deny marriage licenses to same-sex couples, were still in effect. Moore argued that his J****** 6 Administrative Order was mischaracterized by the JIC, despite the fact that the J****** 6 order stated "... Until further decision by the Alabama Supreme Court, the existing orders of the Alabama Supreme Court that Alabama probate judges have a ministerial duty not to issue any marriage license contrary to the Alabama Sanctity of Marriage Amendment or the Alabama Marriage Protection Act remain in full force and effect."[75][76][77][78]

At an August 2010 hearing before the Alabama Court of the Judiciary on the motions to dismiss and for summary judgment, Moore's attorneys continued to assert that Moore did not order probate judges to disobey the injunction issued by the U.S. District Court or the U.S. Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage. The attorney for the JIC responded that Moore's argument "defies common sense" and said that Moore was defying a federal court order, just as he did in 2003, and should be immediately removed from office.[79][80] The Alabama Court of the Judiciary subsequently denied both Moore's motion and the JIC motion and set a trial date.[81]

On September 30, 2016, Moore was found guilty of all six charges and suspended for the remainder of his term, slated to end in 2019.[82] In its 50-page order, the Court of the Judiciary stated it did not find credible Moore's claim that the purpose for the J****** 6 order was "merely to provide a 'status update' to the state's probate judges".[82] The ruling meant that Moore would not receive a salary paid for the remainder of his term. Moore also was ordered to pay court costs. The ruling effectively ended Moore's Supreme Court career, as he will not be eligible for ree******n in 2018 because he will be above the maximum age (in Alabama, candidates for the Court must be 69 years of age or younger).[83][84]
Appeal to the Alabama Supreme Court and resignation

In October 2016, Moore filed a notice of appeal with the Court of the Judiciary appealing his suspension and the final judgment to the Alabama Supreme Court. Among other claims, Moore contended that neither the JIC nor the COJ had jurisdiction to investigate and punish him for his issuance of the Administrative Order of J****** 6, 2016; that the six charges against him had not been proven by clear and convincing evidence, and that by "suspending him" without pay for the remainder of his term, the COJ had effectively removed him from office without unanimous agreement of the COJ, as required under Alabama law.[85][86][87][88] Pending the appeal, Moore refused to clean out his office.[89]

The Alabama Supreme Court randomly selected seven retired judges to review the appeal of Moore's suspension,[90][91][92] Governor Robert Bentley issued an executive order formally appointing the special Supreme Court of these seven retired justices to hear Moore's appeal from the decision of the COJ that suspended him from the bench for the remainder of his term.[93]

In December 2016, Moore—represented by the group Liberty Counsel—filed his appeal brief with the special Alabama Supreme Court.[94][95][96][97][98] Eight current and retired Alabama judges filed an amicus brief in support of Moore, asserting in their filings that Moore's suspension was, in fact, a removal from office and contrary to Alabama law since it required unanimous agreement of the COJ, despite the fact the COJ did unanimously agree in their final judgment to suspend Moore for the remainder of his term.[99][100]

At Moore's request,[101] oral argument was canceled to speed up the proceedings, and the special Supreme Court agreed to rule on the case based on the written submissions of the parties.[102][103][104]

On April 20, the special Supreme Court upheld Moore's suspension.[105] In its opinion, the special Supreme Court ruled that all of the JIC's charges against Moore were supported by clear and convincing evidence. The Court also ruled that it did not have authority to rescind the sanctions imposed on Moore because the charges were amply supported by clear and convincing evidence, and that the JIC was unanimous in their decision to suspend Moore for the remainder of his term.[106]

Six days following the court's ruling, Moore resigned from the Alabama Supreme Court and announced he would be running for the United States Senate.[107][1][2]

I think the 8 desparado wrote of were the other 8 justices on the Alabama Court. If all 8 were not honest and of sound mind, we should worry about the competence of Alabama v**ers to chose wisely.

In the Roy Moore affair, there will be no court trial. The statute of limitation has long run out on any statutory rape case. If he attempted statutory rape, he got away with it. The question then becomes, is it an issue in Alabama e******ns, if a candidate got away with attempted statutory rape?

If that ray of sunshine pokes down on a President Pence, I think I would rather have the orange cloud.

I'm not sure I understand your question. If you mean amending the Constitution, two methods are laid out in the Constitution. If you mean some fundamental redistribution of power, I don't think there is any way, practically and constitutionally.

There have been "native born Americans citizens" who have wanted to k**l all of our presidents, and sadly some have succeeded. Likewise, many have worked to oppose any successes for an opposing president in hopes of success for their party in the next e******n.

As far as those "who believe socialism/c*******m a better form of government for America", if by this you mean government such as in the former USSR, or the current PRC, they are few and far between.

And as far as taking marching orders, I only take them from my spouse and my professors, and then I use my charm to convince them that my small efforts have actually met the requirements of their orders.

Slavoj Zizek, our first lady's fellow countryman, and philosopher, suggested v****g for Trump as a good strategy for furthering the revolution against the capitalist system.

[Partial Irony Warning] Se******n by lottery, with losers required to serve on an executive committee of say 1000, where all actions required consensus. At the end of one's term of service, an approval rating would be taken, if one's rating were above or below some range, one would be exiled.

I assume you are not talking about ALL Trump followers. Some (many?) seem to see him as a lesser of evils. Some (many?) seem to view him as a means to achieving other goals (e.g. ending net neutrality, removing consumer protection regulations, reducing corporate and upper income taxes, etc.).

It's always good to go to the source:
http://www.newsweek.com/how-murderer-charles-manson-used-language-gain-followers-717399

At the end of the article is:
"An earlier version of this story did not meet Newsweek's editorial standards and has been revised accordingly."

I couldn't find a complete copy of the original. The reported title of the original, "How Murderer Charles Manson And Donald Trump Used Language To Gain Followers”, certainly is click bait, I not sure the listed quotes from the original justify your statement, "the Left is claiming that Charles Manson is all about Donald Trump".

In the article, I found this:
"Trump’s message as an outsider candidate was that normal politicians were unable to protect ordinary Americans, in part because they were too hamstrung by laws and regulations."

[Irony Warning] I think Trump has a genuine concern for those he thinks of as ordinary Americans, and so, has filled his cabinet with them. :(

Say it ain't so! I will miss the Mother of Trolls.

After reading this, I am convinced that Trump is NOT a Russian agent.

The article states:
At this point it is unclear how the KGB regarded Trump. To become a full KGB agent, a foreigner had to agree to two things. (An “agent” in a Russian or British context was a secret intelligence source.) One was “conspiratorial collaboration.” The other was willingness to take KGB instruction.

The most obvious proof is the answer to this question: Is Trump willing to take instruction from anybody?

More subtle: Does Trump collaborate with anyone?

I think these are parts of Trump's character that appeal to many people. They think he can't be bought or controlled. His primary motivation seems to be winning. And one's best hope is to be on his team.