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Dec 15, 2017 17:24:16   #
2bltap wrote:
HI all. Look this video is a bit of old news. However, it was just recently that Jerome Corrsi, a well respected news journalist came out with information stating that those in the CIA at the time had been found to have CREATED THE FORGED long form birth certificate as well as having g***med Hussien Obama, aka Barry Soetero who had put out that he was in fact a foreign student in order to get into college. This is fact and its readily available on the internet. The long form birth certificate was investigated for years by not only by those in the United Stes wo have unrefutable reputations but those over in Europe who are of the same caliber and are experts in the field that it was in fact a completely false and forged document. Now Im sure that many here will at least from the progressive left will say its all BS and thats fine. SO SUE ME!!!!! My only real question here is why was this fraud allowed to ocurr to this country? What in fact was the bottom line purpose for this to have continued? In any event, I still believe that Soetero/Obama should have never been allowed to stain The Peoples House. Im like what in the hell would happen if the right people of power in our government would actually have the balls and courage to go ahead truly look into this? I mean for crying out loud, just look at all of the subversive things hew has done not only during his time in office but all of the S*******s and yes I would say Treasonous things that he has been doing since leaving The Peoples House. Why is is allowed to do these things and on the peoples dime at that? I cant and wont speak for anyone else but I have been and still are extremely angry over this issue. Thats just how I feel.
Semper Fi

https://youtu.be/2MyY3ZqtrQ8
HI all. Look this video is a bit of old news. Ho... (show quote)

Thank you for posting this, because after streaming it I found the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvjGOncSyHM
In it, my favorite pessimistic Marxist (c*******t?) philosopher, who happens to be from our First Lady's birth country, says some funny things.
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Dec 15, 2017 11:59:30   #
Airforceone wrote:
Let’s start to except the Republican agenda. It’s time to stop fighting and just give them what they want.

1) We have to accept wealthy tax cuts
2) We have to accept Privatise SS
3) We have to accept elimination of Medicaid.
4) All Mexicans must leave the country
5) All Muslims must leave the country
6) All b****s should not be allowed to v**e
7) Eliminate Public Education
8) acceptance of Pedaphile’s
9) Acceptance Of sexual molestation
10) Eliminate Heathcare
12) Welcome Putin as a strong Leader
13) China no longer currency manipulator
15) Our NATO Allies Suck
16) All international Trade sucks
17) NAFTA sucks walk away
18) World Trade Organization Sucks
19) no trading allowed with T***s Pacific
20) Unconditional love for Putin
21) Evangelicals Have all the answers
22) eliminate food stamps
23) eliminate Collective Bargaining
24) We have to create Felony charges if you join a Union.
26) Eliminate all gun laws
27) Make incest legal (SOUTHERN TRADITION)
28) All college students should be denied the right to v**e.

I could go on and on, but we need to support the Republican agenda. This is how you MAGA we have to give them a chance. There biggest thing in MAGA is to acceptance of Pedaphile’s
Let’s start to except the Republican agenda. It’s ... (show quote)

When posting, one should always remember Poe's Law and give an "Irony Warning". I like the near rhyme in the title (except ~ accept).
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Dec 14, 2017 20:27:11   #
rumitoid wrote:
Trump has tried to corral or intimidate or suppress Nikki Haley on a number of occasions. Her recent comments saying that Trump accusers need to "be heard" and "dealt with" is a shot over the bow for her candidacy. I am casting my absentee b****t now, as I do not think I will be around in 2020. She is imminently qualified in government and seems a wise, good, and moral person. One who is not bound by ideology but for what is righteous and just, no matter what side of the aisle. Democrats would back such a person; Republicans would destroy her chances. That is ugly, sorry: not all Republicans, and maybe not a majority of them. It is just that anyone willing to commit political suicide by being reasonable and fair, weighing equally both sides of an issue, is now considered by the Right as a t*****r.
Trump has tried to corral or intimidate or suppres... (show quote)

Careful there. If your endorsement gets out, you'll ruin her chances. ;)
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Dec 14, 2017 19:31:21   #
bahmer wrote:
If you look up the Muslim f**g you will notice it contains a crescent moon and a small star on it. The god allah is the moon god that was worshiped during Mohammed's rise to power and as a religious/political figure of his time and was thus their god. The Jewish and Christian God is the God of the universe and is a God of love and compassion. If you read the Muslim books you will find out that allah is anything but kind loving and compassionate.

If you read the Mikra you will find out that God is anything but kind loving and compassionate. Jesus (and Muhammad) tell us that He is loving and merciful; much as I would believe it, I am not convinced. Sad.
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Dec 14, 2017 19:17:00   #
Super Dave wrote:
Correction. I thought you knew what I meant. My mistake. "MMGW" is a h**x. I heard about the end of the Ice Age. It was in all the papers. SUVs didn't cause it.

https://climatechangedispatch.com/flashback-2009-john-kerry-s-epic-fail-on-an-ice-free-arctic-by-2015/

In 2009, Kerry told the Senate, “You have sea ice which is melting at a rate that the Arctic Ocean now increasingly is exposed. In five years, scientists predict we will have the first ice free Arctic summer.”

We checked with Santa Claus, the Arctic hasn't been Ice Free since well before GWA nuts evolved from a really gullible and stupid breed of monkey.
Correction. I thought you knew what I meant. My mi... (show quote)

For anyone interested:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_sea_ice_decline
Kerry should have asked about the margin of error. :) And maybe asked about the general consensuses, rather than relying on one prediction.
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Dec 14, 2017 18:43:24   #
Steve700 wrote:
Don't capitalize the word him when speaking of Allah. Allah is not God. Allah is Satan, as is proven by the dictates in the Koran in the Hadith the as well as so many of the activities of the adherents of Islam. Following the example of your ideal man, Mohammed is to follow the example of an extremely evil man, (a thief, robber, wife beater, rapist [Even on the very day he k**l their husbands], p*******e, plunderer of the innocent, extortionist and s***er who k**led people who would not agree with him --- it is if that isn't a demonic scumbag, I don't know what is)
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Well, as Muslims equate Allah to the God of Abraham, the God of the Jews, would you then prohibit the Jews' use of Him? I think most Jews and Muslims would allow that Christians hold to the same God as them, eventhough some Christians adhere to the mysterious notion of the Trinity. I would urge monotheists to think of the Trinity as a Mathical Mystery Tour meaning to take you away... It puts mystery back into monotheism. 1+1+1=1 Wow. Of course, it doesn't hold a candle to Hinduism where: 1+1+1+1+1+...ad infinitum=1
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Dec 14, 2017 18:17:16   #
kcstargoat wrote:
I think Bob doesn't know what he thinks. He's partially mentally challenged and slightly autistic. He attempts to be funny and insulting in the same sentence but he doesn't quite manage it. Poor Bob. Instead of "Bad Bob" I think I would call him "Cad Bob." (Cad: - A person who deliberately ignores another person's feelings)

I think that appellation (Cad), might be applied to us all at times.
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Dec 14, 2017 17:59:13   #
Homestead wrote:
There is nothing compatible with Islam and our Constitution, never mind freedom and liberty.

Publius Huldah's videos, what can Americans do about Islam?
http://vimeo.com/63431881

Publius Huldah Explains Why Islamists Don’t Have the Right to Build Mosques, Proselytize Or Institute Sharia Law In America
http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/04/publius-huldah-explains-why-islamists-dont-have-the-right-to-build-mosques-proselytize-or-institute-sharia-law-in-america/

Is Islam incompatible with U.S. Constitution?
Are the Quran and the U.S. Constitution compatible?


The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that Congress shall make no law prohibiting the “free exercise” of religion, yet Mohammad said “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, k**l him.” (Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 9, Book 84, No. 57). The Quran also states in Sura 4:89 “Those who reject Islam must be k**led. If they turn back (from Islam), take hold of them and k**l them wherever you find them.”

The First Amendment states Congress shall not abridge “the freedom of speech,” yet Islamic law enforces dhimmi status on non-Muslims, prohibiting them from observing their religious practices publicly, raising their voices during prayer, ringing church bells or say anything considered “insulting to Islam.” Islamic law relegates non-Muslims to “dhimmi” status, where they are not to propagate their customs among Muslims and cannot display a cross, Christmas decorations, or the Star of David.

The First Amendment states Congress cannot take away “the right of the people to peaceably assemble,” yet Islamic law states non-Muslims cannot repair places of worship or build new ones, they must allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings, they cannot bring their dead near the graveyards of Muslims or mourn their dead loudly.

The First Amendment states Congress cannot take away the right of the people “to petition the Government for a redress of grievances,” yet Islamic law states non-Muslims are not to harbor any hostility towards the Islamic state or give comfort to those who disagree with Islamic government.


The Second Amendment states “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,” yet Islamic law states non-Muslims cannot possess arms, swords or weapons of any kind.

The Third Amendment states one cannot be forced to “quarter” someone in their house, yet Islamic law states non-Muslims must entertain and feed for three days any Muslim who wants to stay in their home, and for a longer period if the Muslim falls ill, and they cannot prevent Muslim travelers from staying in their places of worship.

The Fourth Amendment guarantees “the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures,” yet Islamic law states if a non-Muslim rides on a horse with a saddle and bridle, the horse can be taken away.

The Fifth Amendment states that “no person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime … without due process of law,” yet Mohammad said “No Muslim should be k**led for k*****g a Kafir (infidel).” (Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 9, No. 50).

The Sixth Amendment guarantees a “public trial by an impartial jury” and the Seventh Amendment states “the right of trial by jury shall be preserved,” yet Islamic law does not give non-Muslims equal legal standing with Muslims, even prohibiting them from testifying in court against Muslims.

The Eighth Amendment states there shall be no “cruel and unusual punishments inflicted,” yet the Quran states: “Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done – a deterrent from Allah.” (Sura 5:38) A woman who has been raped is also punished “with a hundred stripes.” (Sura 24:2) Women can be beaten: “If you experience r*******n from the women, you shall first talk to them, then (you may use negative incentives like) deserting them in bed, then you may (as a last alternative) beat them” (Sura 4:34). Honor k*****gs of wives and daughters who have embarrassed their families have been reported by the United Nations in Muslim populations of Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Pakistan, Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Yemen and increasing in Western nations.

The 13th Amendment states there shall be no “s***ery or involuntary servitude,” yet the Quran accommodates s***ery as Mohammad owned s***es.

The 14th Amendment guarantees citizens “equal protection of the laws,” yet the Quran does not consider Jews, Christians and other non-Muslims as equal to Muslims before the law. Referring to Jews as “the People of the Book,” Mohammad said: “They are those whom Allah has cursed; who have been under his wrath; some of whom were turned into apes and swine” (Sura 5:60, 7:166, 2:65).

The 15th Amendment guarantees “the right of the citizens … to v**e shall not be denied … on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude,” yet strict interpretation of Islamic law does not allow v****g, as democracy is considered people setting themselves in the place of Allah by making the laws.

The 16th Amendment has some similarities with Islamic law, as “Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes on incomes from wh**ever source derived.” Mohammad said “Fight those who believe not in Allah … until they pay the jizya [tax] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (Sura 9:29)

The 18th Amendment has some similarities with Islamic law, as “the manufacture, sale, or t***sportation of intoxicating liquors … for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.”

The 19th Amendment allows women to v**e, yet in strict Islamic countries women cannot v**e.

The 21st Amendment allows for the sale of liquor, yet Islamic law states non-Muslims are not to sell or drink wine and liquor openly.

One would assume that to swear upon a book implies believing what is in that book. As Mohammad was not just a religious leader, but also a political-military leader, Sharia Islam is not just a religious system, but also a political-military system.
http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/is-islam-incompatible-with-u-s-constitution/?cat_orig=education&AID=7236


Islam - What the West Needs to Know (full)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mllMkm8pcVU

The Koran is considered by Muslims and traditional Islamic theology to be dictated, word for word, by God himself, (by Allah himself) through the angel Gabriel, to the prophet Mohammad.
As a result, every word of it, are the words of God himself. Every word of the Koran, unless it is canceled by another section of the Koran itself, is valid for all time and:
It cannot be questioned.
It cannot be reformed.
It cannot be changed, within the Islamic context.

This means that moderate Muslims, peaceful Muslims, if they are sincere, have to reject entirely Koranic literalism, but, to do so, puts them outside the sphere of anything that has been considered orthodox Islam throughout history. Because, to do so is to reject the very basic premise of Islam, that this is a book, that is dictated by God and is a perfect copy, of a perfect book, the mother book, that has existed forever, with Allah, in heaven.
There is nothing compatible with Islam and our Con... (show quote)

Somewhat like the Christians and Jews in the US who reject literal interpretations of the Bible. What is your point? Are we to require of citizens, that they eschew all literal interpretations of Scripture?
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Dec 14, 2017 16:48:58   #
Super Dave wrote:
IOW - The same people did not make the same arguments as you said, but some groups that made one argument has argued on different topics.

No, I didn't read the Wikopedia article. I just knew you were wrong when I read your silly accusation.

The fact is that GW is a h**x, and "The Same People" that have been proven wrong in the past (Al Gore is my favorite, but we both know there's a bunch more) Are making the same stupid arguments today.

Do you remember Al Gore's 10 year Countdown to Doom? It was sometime in the 80's when that clock ran out. We're still here, and Al Gore has reportedly made 100s of $Millions (since you're concerned about money..)
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430380/al-gore-doomsday-clock-expires-c*****e-c****e-fanatics-wrong-again

Do you remember John Kerry telling us it was settled science (no discussion or dissent allowed) that the Polar Ice Caps would be gone in 5 years? The clock ran out on that a few years ago, and the ice caps have grown in size since then.

Yes, it is true that the planet has gotten much warmer since the Ice Age ended. But mankind is as powerful against Earth as a flea on an elephant's ass against the elephant.

Sometime when you can, fly on an airplane and notice how puny mankind is. Humble yourself and you'll stop being a s***e to the Propaganda Du-Jour.
IOW - The same people did not make the same argume... (show quote)

Dave wrote:
IOW - The same people did not make the same arguments as you said, but some groups that made one argument has argued on different topics.

Well the article did list three specific individuals who argued against tobacco hazards and AGW, but since you asked for 5-10, I flippantly supplied those incorporated groups, who as a group argued against tobacco hazards and AGW. So I feel confident that my original statement is not too off base.

Dave also wrote:
The fact is that GW is a h**x...

Dave, I think you need to recheck your talking points. The new talking point: GW is happening but it is not caused by human activity, so there is nothing we can do to stop it.

I think you overestimate my concern for money. I wrote, "I don't think that it's just money...". I wrote this to indicate my disagreement with those who say the arguments are all money driven. Some people do seem to be driven only by money. You can often recognize them by their names, which place them in their clans: Inc., Ltd., Co., etc.

John Kerry said the polar caps would be melted in 5 years? If he said that he needs to get a new oracle. Could you give a reference.

As for, "a flea on an elephant's ass", woe the elephant if that flea's bite carries a deadly contagion. I think Homo Sapiens may be the most invasive species to ever exist on Earth. We have sent many other species into extinction and many others near. We may have even created the means to our own extinction.

I don't need to fly in an airplane to feel puny, a clear night sky is sufficient. As for being a s***e to the propaganda of the day, I try to be a s***e only to my values, primarily of which is information. Looking at:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/propaganda
1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
Am I a dog following the Master, waiting for bones I can gnaw at?

...and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?
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Dec 14, 2017 14:46:14   #
eagleye13 wrote:
I do think you have hit on it Ollie!
Everything George Soros Doesn't Want You To Know
https://youtu.be/JmMw9aMXmMY
SOROS FORMULA TO DESTROY AMERICA FOLLOWED BY OBAMA, HILLARY, CLERGY, EDUCATORS, CONGRESSMAN, JUDGES, PROFESSORS & ON AND ON. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. CALLING FOR THE ARREST OF GEORGE SOROS A TREASONOUS TERRORIST FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. PLEASE SPEAK OUT WITH ME AND MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD.

Learn More from D.C. Leaks Open Society:
http://soros.dcleaks.com/download/?f=...
I do think you have hit on it Ollie! br Everything... (show quote)

Wow, George Soros uses his vast wealth to promote his agenda and values! Who would have thunk it. Sounds kinda like the Koch brothers.

An interesting bit, the video showed a letter from Hillary Rodham (not yet Clinton) to Saul Alinsky, in which she inadvertently reveals her evil plan, where she wonders "...if the commitment to a free and open society is ever going to mean more than eloquence and frustration."
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Dec 14, 2017 13:03:11   #
Oh my! Somehow, I think that flower has been plucked.
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Dec 14, 2017 12:35:35   #
Super Dave wrote:
I'm surprised those same people are alive.

It was what, the 40's or 50's when tobacco commercials stopped claiming the health benefits of tobacco? If they were adults in charge of major companies then, they'd be about what, 110 years old now?
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And yet the same people are the ones claiming GWA alarmists are wrong?

Can you name between 5-10 of these people?

Dave, you are super. What a clever use of arithmetic to cast doubt on my original statement. At first I wondered if you had even read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt
But then when you asked for "between 5-10 of these people [tobacco apologists and AGW deniers]", I thought, "He must have read the Wikipedia article, because at first glance it only lists three or maybe four names". Well you miscounted. The article also lists: The Heritage Foundation, Competitive Enterprise Institute, and George C. Marshall Institute (who are also people, according to SCOTUS).

Sadly, some of these people are no longer with us; the George C. Marshall Institute left this coil in 2015.

An interesting bit in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Marshall_Institute

Matthew B. Crawford was appointed executive director of GMI in September 2001. He left the GMI after 5 months, saying that the institute was "fonder of some facts than others". He contended a conflict of interest existed in the funding of the institute. In Shop Class as Soulcraft, he stated about the Institute:
“...the trappings of scholarship were used to put a scientific cover on positions arrived at otherwise. These positions served various interests, ideological or material. For example, part of my job consisted of making arguments about g****l w*****g that just happened to coincide with the positions taken by the oil companies that funded the think tank.”

I wonder just what drives these people [tobacco apologists and AGW deniers]. I don't think they are evil. I don't think that it's just money (emphasis on "just" [and not in the "fair" sense]). I think their major motivator is concern for government regulation. I share their concern (I mean, do we really need all these "Speed Limit" signs). The question is: how much and what kind of regulation is needed in a desirable society.
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Dec 14, 2017 00:20:14   #
Larry the Legend wrote:
No. Just yours. People like you who ask dumb questions should not be allowed to assemble, peacefully or otherwise. Come to think of it, we should probably ban you from procreating as well.

Too late. :)
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Dec 13, 2017 23:44:26   #
Super Dave wrote:
Some l*****t documentary guy?

Anyone else?

Here's another you'll just ignore:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/low-tar-cigarettes/481116/
Wherein:
The irony in this arrangement is that the tobacco industry pioneered such tactics. “The tobacco industry wrote the playbook for the rest of the industries,” said Matt Myers, president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. “Whether it’s the chemical industry, whether its c*****e c****e … You see it in industry after industry.” Now, it’s hiring consultants who took its techniques and pushed them further in other industries, relying on their experience to contest the scientific consensus on the dangers of low-tar cigarettes.
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Dec 13, 2017 23:18:18   #
kcstargoat wrote:
Nope. I agree with the right of the people to assemble, just don't agree with the presence in our country of a people who want to k**l us and t***sform the nation.

So you agree that Muslims have a right to assemble, just not in the USA.
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