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Dec 18, 2017 11:26:10   #
S. Maturin wrote:
Wiki, Snopes, Google... whoever depends upon those "sources" for unbiased, t***hful, apolitical material is being foolish.

Sorry, but there it is.

Then there's that "judge in DC' -- wasn't anyone else rankled/offended by that blabber mouth? I thought a judge was supposed to rule by disaffected law.. law as set out by the Constitution.. where do these (DC!) judges get the "authority" to lecture and call litigants names in an attempt to shame them, belittle them? Do all judges suffer from a *god complex*?
Wiki, Snopes, Google... whoever depends upon those... (show quote)

Aristotle says, "...man is by nature a political animal..."
http://files.libertyfund.org/pll/quotes/164.html
if true, then no human created source would be apolitical and we who accept any source are being foolish. Maybe that is why some claim inhuman sources.

I feel less foolish when I use sources that have stated rules and procedures. As to Wikipedia's reliability:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia
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Dec 18, 2017 10:21:17   #
Active_Reader wrote:
Here is some facts on Obuma's f**e birth certificate. Many of us have been sending email and copies of Obuma's Kenya birth certificate. The one that the WH put on the internet was create by Adobe Photoshop, or a program that can copy, past, and make layers for showing it to actually make it look like it was copied right from the document itself. Their is an attorney that has all the people that created the document. Some News and TV big wigs supported it, the making and sending it in piece meal to have and give it to the WH staff to have them put it out for all of us dummies to see. The programmer, made some mistakes. He copied parts from one birth certificate that inserted different fonts (the type that appears on paper) with different dpi (dots per inch). The long form did they used was not used when Obuma was supposed to have been born back in Hawaii. It is all false. His mother had the brat born in Keny. She flew to Hawaii, she was smart, to try and get a f**e birth certificate cut showing he was born there. She was not able to do it. She did not have a passport to leave Hawaii, so she had to apply for one. She tried to get the passport showing that Berry Sortoro? meaning "Trouble Maker" on her application for a pass port. She had to cross out his name, for the pass port personnel probably asked where is the brat? He was not with her at the time. The long form does not have the old fashion type that a remingtion typewriter pica type. IT is all a jumble of mixed fonts, with different dots. The seal does not show from what I have read from the Tea Party man. In fact Jerome somebody hired, some expert that used Adobe created an exact copy of the one the WH show on the internet.
Sheriff Arapio of Arizona had some "cold posse" investigate and obtain a copy of Obuma's birth certificate but nobody believed it in Congress. Yet many in Congress knew Obuma was a f**e. If you people remember the House Republicans like Boehner, Goodlatte, who should have formed a special committee to investigate Obama's birth certificate. The two of them were and still are a bunch of "pussies." There were two possible reasons: those who brought it up were probably afraid for their life and family, and if they did get the House to say he should be removed, the Senate was all Democratic, and would not have gone along with the impeachment of Obuma. The senate would not have v**ed to remove him. Bill Clinton has some 70 plus civilians missing and never found. The same with Obuma. I read it lis like 90 individuals. There are a lot of missing individuals that are missing. When Hillary was running for president in 2016? Obama went to Bill Clinton to tell him that unless Hillary drops out of the run for presidency, he would have Chelsea k**led. There were some false stories made up on her dropping out of the race. Larry Klayman of Freedom WAtch proved that Obama was using a f**e birth certificate. He formed a Citizens Grand Jury(CGJ) in Orlando, Fl, back around 2013 if I remember correctly, which took some three years to follow the rules by the US Constitution to use a CGJ to convict Obama that he should not be in the WH. Obama was cited to be at the Orlando, FL hearing and bring and show his true birth certificate. He was a no show. The CGJ found him guilty on two counts of fraud. Given a sentence of 5 years each for a total of 10 years. Obama's lawyers told him to ignore it. Dr. Orly Taiz, an attorney in California proved Obama was a f**e. He has a f**e draft card using some draft number from a state he never lived in. He used up to three different SSN's. The one he is using now, that Cosi also disclosed, was taken from a dead person from one of the southern states. His wife also stole other people SSN. ONe of the big cheezes in the S. S. Department let Michelle use his dead distant inlaw or relative so she could file along with the f**e president. The attorney up in BElview, WAshigton has all the names of those that help create the long form. He tried to get a U. S. Supreme Ct. judge to form a Federal Grand Jury to investigate Obuma. The documents given to the judge were under sealed orders and could not be opened. The Federal judge would not do it. No standing he says. I do not have my notes before me for I would give your the web page etc. EVen Obama half-brother put a copy of his real birth certificate on the internet (Facebook) just prior to his final year in the WH. Their both muslims. Obama even had five (5)Muslim Brotherhoods working in the white house. One quit to go to Texas to form his own jihad group.
Have to go. Look up Dr. Orley Taiz, and Larry Klayman director for www.freedomwatch.com. I hope Bad Bob reads this.
Here is some facts on Obuma's f**e birth certifica... (show quote)

Are you as equally concerned, that the non US citizen (by your rules), US Senator Ted Cruz is still in office and making illegal (by your rules) v**es?
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Dec 18, 2017 02:27:55   #
ghostgotcha wrote:
I want to speak briefly about how the liberal misfits are working to screw up our great country.

I will also try to avoid lowering this message down to a denominator where liberals can grasp the message and go all atwitter.

I fully expect the more educated and those capable of thinking to grasp the message.

Ignorance of history is tragic. The preservation of the knowledge of America's founding and her cultural traditions, which grew out of western civilization, is vital to the survival of liberty - not only in America - but in the world as well.

This lodestar of historical t***h and strength is slowly being set adrift by cultural forces desirous of unhinging this nation from its fountainhead.

Just as previously seen throughout history and most recently witnessed by the N**I book burning in Germany under Hitler and the C*******t uprising in the old Soviet Union, where churches were closed, people burned and history re-written to fit their new propaganda.

Today, within America; progressive erosion threatens to unravel the very tapestry into which human freedom has been so courageously woven by our forefathers.

Stand up if you want to maintain your own freedom and that of your family both current and future. Stand up for our Freedom.
I want to speak briefly about how the liberal misf... (show quote)

To summarize:
Liberals are rewriting history.
The rewritten history threatens our freedom.
Therefore, if you want to maintain our freedom, then do something.

Could you be more specific?
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Dec 18, 2017 01:51:18   #
I seem to have had problems with my spelling in my last two posts on this thread. I wrote their instead of there and here instead of hear. Sorry for any confusion.
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Dec 17, 2017 21:33:00   #
eagleye13 wrote:
Well; Trump has accomplished enough to scare the piss out of the D's. RINOS will be eradicated.

When I here RINOs mentioned, I remember a few conversations I had with a Virginia Republican in the 1990's. He argued that Abraham Lincoln was a terrible tyrant! I should have asked him if Lincoln was a RINO.
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Dec 17, 2017 21:27:22   #
JohnCorrespondent wrote:
According to https://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/studentid.asp " :

that ID card:

(a) is "not a real Columbia University student ID issued to Barack Obama (under any name) in 1981; it’s simply an altered version of a Columbia University ID card issued to another student in 1998" ;

(b) "couldn’t possibly have have been a Columbia University student ID issued to Barack Obama in 1981, as the digital ID card format it uses wasn’t introduced at Columbia until 1996" ;

and:

(c) "is obviously a forgery, as the photograph it bears is not a picture of a 20-year-old Barack Obama from 1981; it’s a picture taken several years later, during or shortly after Barack Obama’s time at Harvard Law School (1988-1991)".

Also: The matter of Obama's birth or citizenship has been put to the courts many times. Here's one of the results, which I think is probably a typical result of those cases:

'Hollister v. Soetoro

'On March 5, 2009, a lawsuit filed by Philip Berg on behalf of Gregory S. Hollister, a retired Air Force colonel, against Barack Obama (referenced as "Barry Soetoro", the name given at the time of his enrollment in an Indonesian elementary school). The suit was dismissed in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. The presiding judge, James Robertson, said the case was a waste of the court's time, calling Berg and another lawyer "agents provocateurs" and their local counsel, John Hemenway, "a foot soldier in their crusade." He ordered Hemenway to show cause why he should not pay the legal fees for Obama's attorney as a penalty for filing a complaint "for an improper purpose such as to harass".[43] The district court ultimately reprimanded Hemenway for his actions, and the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld the dismissal of the case and Hemenway's reprimand.[26] On January 18, 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case.[44]'

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_p**********l_eligibility_litigation for that and other such cases.

I'm more interested in the philosophy, ideas, and manner of a politician. Why would I even care where a president or candidate was _born_, while some such candidates or presidents are provocative to start unnecessary wars (Bush II and Trump), or administratively responsible for covert operations to o*******w governments and arm foreign governments (Reagan and the Iran-Contra scandal)? Alongside such things, circumstances of birth are much less significant. Regarding Obama, the man was obviously very involved in the United States for a long time (that's true, even if your claim were true, that he'd been born somewhere else). Even if he _had_ been born somewhere else, I'm more interested in his ideas than where he was born. Here is what Obama said: "Surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith. Or for that matter my citizenship." (That was at the February 2010 National Prayer Breakfast, according to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories#Barack_Obama%27s_response ).

Some posters on this topic (but not you in this post) have called Obama a Muslim as though that were a derogatory term or even relevant to anything. That's one of the reasons I haven't paid much attention to this topic in the past. I haven't paid much attention to this topic of Obama's birth and citizenship, firstly because I don't think birth and citizenship are as important as involvement and ideas, and secondly because I see many of the people who argue against Obama's birth and citizenship are the same people who spout a lot of ethnocentric, xenophobic nonsense, such as opposition to Muslims or Islam in a way which is merely stereotyping. It would be just as easy to oppose Christians, who as a group have sponsored as much violence, torture, and other terrorism as anybody. But we should not oppose Christians as a whole in that shallow way, just as we should not oppose Muslims in that way: it's a wrong kind of generalizing: a stereotyping.

Your post was better than theirs, I think, but still doesn't pass muster with things like snopes and wikipedia, and, even if you were right, it would still be about mere citizenship, of a person who obviously is more involved in the U.S. than most common citizens are. So find something wrong with his ideas or his philosophy or his policies: those are the more significant topics.

The person who says an idea is often less important than the idea itself. That's particularly true when the person is President, whose ideas have far-reaching effects. Argue the ideas.

-John, Dec. 17, 2017
According to https://www.snopes.com/politics/obama... (show quote)

I h**e to inform you, but if you expect to have a discussion of ideas on OPP, I fear you will be greatly disappointed. Sad.

You are suggesting we talk about ideas (I'm not sure what you mean by this, it seems very broad), but their is no agreement on what the "facts" are, and no agreement on the arbiter of "facts". Without agreement on facts, where can there be any discussion of ideas? Perhaps a discussion of values might be possible...?
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Dec 16, 2017 19:26:07   #
Homestead wrote:
The Jews tried being better neighbours to the N**i's, they even v**ed for Hitler.

How'd that work out for them?

As I said, you want to wallow in your ignorance and play stupid.

Many people, of many societies, have done the same, it didn't work out well for them either.

Why don't you try educating yourself?

Three Stages of Jihad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_468896&feature=iv&src_vid=-SoXs0_rHY&v=ERou_Q5l9Gw

Why don't you try listening to ex-Muslims that embraced Islam for most of their lives?

Interview With Walid Sheobat at 700 Club
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtvhtK8Ol98

Why I Left Jihad ? Ex-Muslim militant Speaks Out - Part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie_aYc6GPcc

Story of 3 former Islamic Terrorists accepting Jesus Christ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uIOIG-mlE8

Ex-Muslim man tears apart the "Religion of Peace" and abuses the prophet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI3sA004xlQ

Islam-Ex Muslim., Allah is a Gangster, watch this you will leave Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl641IFO10g&ebc=ANyPxKrtpbvRzoN_Zbw1pktwRHo4ydYtXamMRFKb-Das0Xqa2vfGvJemF8WljlsxfoOL17p7DnFwX52P6pp60GRZCX47mNrfCg

Prominent American Muslim, Umar Lee, leaves Islam: "We were lied to"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/prominent-american-muslim-umar-lee-leaves-islam-we-were-lied-to.html

Muslim Leader Admits Islam Not a Religion of Peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=64V09tTIjR4
The Jews tried being better neighbours to the N**i... (show quote)

Regarding, "The Jews tried being better neighbours to the N**i's, they even v**ed for Hitler." The Jews tried being good Germans. Hitler denied them that possibility. Any Jews who v**ed for Hitler had probably not read Mein Kampf. In the situation we are talking about, who would be the Jews, who would be the Germans, who would be Hitler?
Spelling it out:
Jews = Muslims
Germans = Americans
Hitler = someone who speaks d******ely, someone who stokes fear of a minority, someone who stokes hatred of a minority
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Dec 16, 2017 13:21:54   #
[quote=Homestead]Grow up!

You think wallowing in your ignorance and burying your head in the sand makes reality go away, just because you refuse to pay attention to it?
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BREAKING: Muslim Man Beheads Woman, Gets His JUST DESERTS
http://americanactionnews.com/articles/breaking-muslim-man-beheads-woman-gets-his-just-deserts#PQqQxbLuggGL8gMl.99

Philadelphia mosque leaders try to cut off man's hand -police
http://www.yahoo.com/news/philadelphia-mosque-leaders-try-cut-off-mans-hand-234040840.html?ref=gs

10 Acts of Jihad in America That Americans Haven’t Heard About
http://pjmedia.com/blog/10-acts-of-jihad-in-america-that-americans-havent-heard-about/?singlepage=true

American Muslim Children Taught to H**e
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/american-muslim-children-taught-h**e?fb_action_ids=932408324544&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[467490229988102]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]

Egyptian Cleric: Boston Bombing Was Meant to Deliver a Message; Similar Attac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JrLsz-AIuzY

Islamic cleric says, “Saying Merry Christmas is worse than fornicating, drinking alcohol, or k*****g someone”
Pay attention to about the 20 second mark, where he says, “not from a non-Muslim.”
I may be wrong, but, I believe this is what he meant:
Since Islam is the only religion, No other religion can contradict Islam. This is an insult to Islam. Therefore not even a Christian can say Merry Christmas, because you are claiming God had a son. That's Blasphemy.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2011/12/15/islamic-cleric-says-saying-merry-christmas-is-worse-than-fornicating-drinking-alcohol-or-k*****g-someone/

Iranian ayatollah decries peaceful Islam as “American Islam”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/iranian-ayatollah-decries-peaceful-islam-as-american-islam

Leaked Video: Muslim teacher tells kids to k**l gays
http://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/764923122030112771/pu/vid/320x180/hz0m9p1rFaXn3cw2.mp4

SHARIA LAW in AMERICA What You Need to Know - GOD HELP US! Viewer Discretion Advised)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PW62aQMy3_s

Hamas-linked CAIR outraged over Florida official's private Facebook posting noting that Qur'an teaches h**e
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/hamas-linked-cair-outraged-over-florida-officials-private-facebook-posting
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Subject: What's an infidel?

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known.
leader in prison ministry.

The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the
United States, especially in the minority races!!

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training
session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the
Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who each explained
their beliefs.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic had to say. The
Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete
with a video.

After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked:
'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams
and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against
the infidels of the world and, that by k*****g an infidel, (which is
a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If
that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'

There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation,
he replied, 'Non-believers!'

I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All
followers of Allah have been commanded to k**l everyone who is not of
your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'


The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command
to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the
cookie jar.'

He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'

[b]I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine
Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to k**l those of your faith
or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to
guarantee them a place in heaven!'

The Muslim was speechless![/b]


I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you
and your brother clerics are telling your followers to k**l me!

Let me ask you a question: Would you rather have your Allah, who tells
you to k**l me in order for you to go to heaven,
or my Jesus who tells me to love you because,
I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.


Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the
'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with my way of
dealing with the Islamic Imam, and exposing the t***h about the
Muslims' beliefs.

In twenty years there will be enough Muslim v**ers in the U.S. to
elect the President!

I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but
with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless
each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference...

FOR CHRIST'S SAKE....SEND THIS ON.
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Coming soon: America's own Islamic 'no-go' zones
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/coming-soon-americas-own-islamic-no-go-zones/

Eric Allen Bell - "#Islamophobia or Islamo-Reality?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZxBLJP0t03w

Counter Jihad is about HUMAN RIGHTS - Eric Allen Bell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SwkADfQelU

The Third Jihad - Radical Islam's Vision for America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4XUub1no1qw#!

Whitewashing Islam: 20 Errors on 20/20 (ABC News)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ5Bwj3iTrg&feature=endscreen&NR=1[/quote]
Homestead wrote, "In twenty years there will be enough Muslim v**ers in the U.S. to elect the President!"
In the spirit of snarkiness, I reply, many on OPP say a Muslim has already been elected POTUS.
As to the cases you listed (not that I looked at them, but I get the gist), They are just cases, whether through insufficient time or greater immunity, where the perpetrators were not seduced by our American decadence into being good neighbors. What is the solution? I think an element would be for Americans to be better neighbors.
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Dec 16, 2017 12:43:23   #
kankune wrote:
I really don't consider them feminist, Big Guy. I feel that all these women want to do is girlie up men and if they can't they want to get rid of them by any means possible. I think that if they get caught lying about any sexual abuse, they should be fined 100,000.00. Lets see ya lie now!!!

And how much should an abuser be fined? People accused of abuse may always sue their accuser for slander.
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Dec 16, 2017 12:33:06   #
lindajoy wrote:
It’s the latest fad.....

Sorry but 30 years ago and she’s just now offended ?? Another that needs some serious proof....

Isn’t it horrific that just an accusation can in fact ruin a resin!!! Let innocent until proven guilt fly out of the judicial process and we are done!!!

Innocent until proven guilt, only applies to the judicial process. Individuals and organizations may follow less strict rules in judgements. And as they judge, so should they be judged. But mercy is always good.
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Dec 16, 2017 12:12:17   #
permafrost wrote:
Bob,

They are not real Christians.

They only use the name in the hope that some people will think they have ethics, empathy and t***hfulness...


Clearly they have none...

I think that anyone who claims to be a Christian should be recognized as such, even though one falls short of Jesus' teaching.
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Dec 16, 2017 12:06:20   #
boofhead wrote:
The only persons who must be natural born are the President and the Vice President. It is not necessary to be natural born to be a Senator or Dog Catcher. Why is it so hard to distinguish the difference between natural born and citizen? There are three types of citizenship: Native born (born in the USA), natural born (born of a US citizen father) and naturalized.

The Constitution specifically separated the requirement from citizen to natural born citizen for those offices for good reason. If being born in the US made you natural born then there was no reason for the clause to be added; the fact that it was added means that "citizen" is not the same as "natural born citizen". The definition of natural born has never been challenged in the courts and indeed it is not a matter for the court but is one for the Congress to decide. They too have never made a ruling. There have been a few attempts to remove the requirement but this also has not been done, which shows that it has meaning, even though it was ignored for Obama. The definition came from the English common law and according to William B****stone, a recognized expert in this, he wrote in 1765 that "Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the d******ns of the crown of England". B****stone added that offspring who are not inhabitants may also be natural born subjects. But by several more modern statutes ... all children, born out of the king's ligeance, whose fathers were natural-born subjects, are now natural-born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception; unless their said fathers were attainted, or banished beyond sea, for high treason; or were then in the service of a prince at enmity with Great Britain.

It was felt to be super important that anybody running for the job of President have sole allegiance to the USA, and if he/she had a foreign father he would be influenced by that relationship. I think this has been proven to be true by Obama's reign.
The only persons who must be natural born are the ... (show quote)

But to be a US Senator, US citizenship is required. Ted Cruz is not natural born (by your definition) and he did not go through the naturalization process, therefore he is not a US citizen and so is illegally occupying his Senate position and all his v**es should be declared null and void (at least by your reasoning).
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Dec 16, 2017 12:00:45   #
Bad Bob wrote:
Smitty, do ya think with your heart?

This may have some bearing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descartes%27_Error
In his book, Antonio Damasio (as I understand it) argues that rationality requires a starting point in feelings.

My take: if what we value is based on feeling, then without values we cannot decide on actions. Once we decide on actions, we use our rationality to justify.

I read somewhere recently, to win arguments one should appeal to another's feelings rather than "facts" or logic.
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Dec 15, 2017 20:42:30   #
Homestead wrote:
Neither Christianity nor Judaism requires that they behead anyone that doesn't convert to their religion, Islam does.

Grow up!

Harbitude

Harbitude is the opposite of dhimmitude.

Develop some harbitude and become a harbi with attitude!
So what is a Harbi? Are YOU one?

A Harbi has no rights, not even the right to live.
...and, you maybe a harbi without even knowing it!
Harbis are people who jihadists judge to be 'at war with Islam', though they don't have to do anything aggressive towards Moslems, their mere existence is a sufficient insult to Allah to justify their extermination.

Islam divides people into two antagonistic groups - Moslems (collectively known as the Ummah) versus Kaffirs (aka Kufr, Kuffars, Infidels or non-believers).

Kaffirs are subdivided further - Jews and Christians who accept the supremacy of Islam are known as Dhimmis, and are allowed to live as second-class citizens, provided they pay the extortionate Jizya (infidel tax) to their Moslem masters. However the Jews must be exterminated eventually before world Islamic domination can be achieved. Christians will then be kept as s***es, since somebody has to do the work, and all parasites needs hosts.

The state of being a submissive Dhimmi is known as Dhimmitude.

Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus, Pagans and members of all other 'non-Abrahamic' religions, together with secularists, and those Jews and Christians who do not accept Muslim domination, are regarded as Harbis - targets of war.
http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/harbitude-harbis-with-attitud...

Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
Neither Christianity nor Judaism requires that the... (show quote)

Homestead wrote, "Neither Christianity nor Judaism requires that they behead anyone that doesn't convert to their religion, Islam does."

And yet the 3.3 million Muslims living in the US are not going around beheading anyone that doesn't convert to their religion. Perhaps it is because they understand their scripture in ways that allow them to live in peace with their neighbors, just as most Christians and Jews do likewise. Would you have them be more unfriendly in their interpretations? Do you not want to love your neighbor?
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Dec 15, 2017 20:27:21   #
boofhead wrote:
When he was the Pres elect and Pres, there was protection needed to hide the t***h lest the system be embarrassed. Now he is out of office maybe the protections will be reduced and we might get to the t***h. Sure it will not reverse any of the devastation he has showered on us but we can learn and that is what history is for. And this is a part of history.

It is not vital that a future president be born in the US, he/She can be eligible regardless. Under the terms of the Constitution (Drat! That pesky piece of paper!) to be qualified the applicant must be natural born. It does not say he has to be born in the US. A Natural Born person is one who is born of a US Citizen father. That law has not been tested in court because it is patently true and never challenged. All the chatter about citizenship you hear is irrelevant and of course if a person is born of a US citizen he is therefore entitled to citizenship automatically no matter where he is born, because he is by definition natural born.

Since his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth, he is not natural born and not qualified. Period end of sentence.

So does it matter? I believe it does and would like to see every law or ruling or opinion he wrote or uttered stricken from the record and expunged. Every law. Chaos, surely, but better than the damage he did while in office. I would like to see the lying Democrats who signed that he was qualified to run (note they did not say that for his second term, they got the t***h by then) locked up for life. But then I am pretty easy going.
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boofhead wrote: "Since his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth, he is not natural born and not qualified. Period end of sentence."
So that means that Ted Cruz is not as US citizen, and since he gave up his Canadian citizenship, he is a stateless person. So what is he doing in the US Senate?
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