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Jul 1, 2015 21:30:33   #
3jack wrote:
Take your patience and cram it up your a--, you paranoid moron.


Facts hurt, huh?

Don't call others any of your family names as they probably aren't related.

And if they were they would undoubtedly deny it to death!! :-)
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Jul 1, 2015 21:25:05   #
Richard94611 wrote:
Of course, if the evidence doesn't please you, damn the source. Usually Bloomberg Business is conservative. Got a response to that ? Let's face it, you won't accept any kind of evidence that confirms something you don't wish to believe. On this issue, intellectually you are a lost cause.


They aught to change their name. More business.

But I find it hard to believe that they are very conservative, as you quoted them!

I have little patients with liberals and their friends, as they have c*******tic leaning. And you are a l*****t, ie; c****e sympathizer?

Viewed from my standpoint can you deny it?

If you don't like being associated with c*******m you better change your political views.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:25:05   #
Richard94611 wrote:
Of course, if the evidence doesn't please you, damn the source. Usually Bloomberg Business is conservative. Got a response to that ? Let's face it, you won't accept any kind of evidence that confirms something you don't wish to believe. On this issue, intellectually you are a lost cause.


They aught to change their name. More business.

But I find it hard to believe that they are very conservative, as you quoted them!

I have little patients with liberals and their friends, as they have c*******tic leaning. And you are a l*****t, ie; c****e sympathizer?

Viewed from my standpoint can you deny it?

If you don't like being associated with c*******m you better change your political views.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:05:12   #
payne1000 wrote:
I don't believe in anything I haven't seen with my eyes.


Wind? You can't see it. Just it's effects.

But you can't believe in it because you can't see it.
Must be ghostly acts, huh?

You see the effects of God all around you. And mother nature don't exist!!!!

Come-on, man!!!!
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Jul 1, 2015 14:42:18   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
By whom, when, and how were the 'demolitions' prepared and set?


:?: :?:
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Jul 1, 2015 14:19:17   #
hnealc wrote:
the 9-11 conspiracy MAY need further study!!

Just saying.

Never seen a tall steel building collapse from just a fire.

And for one to collapse straight down, as they did, it acts just as it would if there were explosives involved!

I don't want to believe it, but it sure is strange!!!


Anyone?

payne1000 wrote:
Actually it was THREE skyscrapers which fell into their own footprints in one day at near free-fall speed. In the 100-year history of skyscrapers the only force to ever cause a skyscraper to fall in that manner had been controlled demolition. The 9/11 Commission decided not to even investigate for controlled demolition. What did they have to hide?


Anyone else? :)
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Jul 1, 2015 14:13:45   #
payne1000 wrote:
Have you noticed that no one so far even attempts to refute the article posted?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:

Maybe because it can't be refuted!?!?!?!
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Jul 1, 2015 14:10:01   #
GrampaG wrote:
One thing I will NEVER understand is why the Jews all seemingly stand with the left! Is it because of the fact that the common opinion of so many is that Jews control Wall Street, major media outlets, the diamond trade, and things of that nature that throws them in with the 1 percent and so therefore believe themselves to be the elite in this country? Why would Jews stand idly by while the left, progressive/socialists and Marxists, do everything they can to facilitate the DESTRUCTION of Israel? I would think Jews would fall all over each other to desert the left, who wants nothing more than your destruction as well, but only after you've given them all your money! Are Jews really that stupid? Or is there a deeper agenda going on in the Jewish mind that we just can't decipher?
One thing I will NEVER understand is why the Jews ... (show quote)



Yup! The love of $$$$$!!!
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Jul 1, 2015 14:09:56   #
GrampaG wrote:
One thing I will NEVER understand is why the Jews all seemingly stand with the left! Is it because of the fact that the common opinion of so many is that Jews control Wall Street, major media outlets, the diamond trade, and things of that nature that throws them in with the 1 percent and so therefore believe themselves to be the elite in this country? Why would Jews stand idly by while the left, progressive/socialists and Marxists, do everything they can to facilitate the DESTRUCTION of Israel? I would think Jews would fall all over each other to desert the left, who wants nothing more than your destruction as well, but only after you've given them all your money! Are Jews really that stupid? Or is there a deeper agenda going on in the Jewish mind that we just can't decipher?
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Yup! The love of $$$$$!!!
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Jul 1, 2015 14:08:15   #
payne1000 wrote:
You must have missed the part where I said I was an atheist.

We don't fear non-existent supernatural beings.


:lol: You might aught to, this one time!!!!
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Jul 1, 2015 14:06:46   #
GrampaG wrote:
There are some hard core deniers out there, but my supposition is that the majority if not all of them are revisionists of history for wh**ever reason, just like the 9-11 conspiracy theorists, who refuse to do proper research and confirmation because they have a preset viewpoint and nothing is going to change it, no matter how convincing the evidence might be. It doesn't take much research to realize that in spite of Hitler trying to fight two major wars on different fronts, he still expended the resources necessary to not only round up the jews, gypsies, and other undesirables, but to research the best methods of exterminating them and building camps that could do it most efficiently (although that wasn't true in all cases; some camps were so barbaric as to be the spawn of Satan at best!). I pity those who refuse to acknowledge the N**i's terrible legacy, and for what reason I don't think anyone will ever know. It's best to just not pay any attention to people like that; they are just sad, little people without the ability to reason and analyze data properly.
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the 9-11 conspiracy MAY need further study!!

Just saying.

Never seen a tall steel building collapse from just a fire.

And for one to collapse straight down, as they did, it acts just as it would if there were explosives involved!

I don't want to believe it, but it sure is strange!!!


Anyone?
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Jul 1, 2015 13:27:56   #
larry wrote:
So, the answer then is to plant more trees and grasses that use the C02 and release more O2 into the air. It seems that the only answer to this is more green stuff on land and on the oceans.

There is probably no sense in reducing what we do now, except making less concrete and asphalt coverings of the land, instead plant more green stuff. Don't burn wood and weeds, and spread the cities out instead of lumping everything together. Go back to dirt roads, walking and only living by daylight. or get in a rocket ship and go to Mars where everything is sterile anyway. Or the moon. No animals or trees there.
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Yeah! You got it!!
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Jul 1, 2015 13:21:57   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
I am Jewish. I don't believe in the devil or the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth. Both are not part of my belief system.
I am a Democrat, politically. If anything, I am to the left of Obama and right go Bernie Sanders.


You got a lot of problems, huh?? (how can anyone be LEFT of Obama???)

But, if you are a mind to (especially as you are one of Gods chosen people!) you can get your life straight yet.
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Jul 1, 2015 13:15:29   #
DJRich wrote:
Some interesting perpectives

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Here are 9 ‘facts’ you know for sure about Jesus that are probably wrong



Valerie Tarico, AlterNet
30 Jun 2015 at 15:37 ET

Jesus has been described as the best known figure in history, and also the least known. If you mentioned the name “Jesus” and someone asked Jesus who?, you might blink. Or laugh. Even people who don’t think Jesus was God, mostly believe they know a fair bit about him. You might be surprised that some of your most basic assumptions about Jesus are probably wrong.

We have no record of anything that was written about Jesus by eyewitnesses or other contemporaries during the time he would have lived or for decades thereafter, and as best scientists can tell, all physical relics of his life are later f**es. Nonetheless, based on archeological digs and artifacts, ancient texts and art, linguistic patterns, and even forensic science, we know a good deal about the time and culture in which the New Testament is set. This evidence points to some startling conclusions about who Jesus likely was—and wasn’t.




1.Cropped hair, not long. Jewish men at the time of Christ did not typically wear their hair long. A Roman triumphal arch of the time period depicts Jewish s***es with short hair. In the Apostle Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians, he addresses male hair length. “Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair, it is degrading to him?” (1 Corinthians 11:14 NRSV). During the 1960’s conservative Christians quoted this verse to express their disgust against the hippy movement and to label it as anti-Christian.
2.Married, not single. In 2012, when an ancient papyrus scrap came to light referring to the wife of Jesus (most likely a forgery), some Catholics and Evangelicals were scandalized at the very thought. But unlike the Catholic Church, Jews have no tradition of celibacy among religious leaders. Ancient writers documented exceptions like the Apostle Paul or the Essene sect precisely because they violated the norm. In the Gospels, Jesus is called rabbi; and all great rabbis that we know of were married. A rabbi being celibate would have been so unusual that some modern writers have argued that Jesus must have been gay. But a number of ancient texts, including the canonical New Testament, point to a special relationship between Mary Magdalene and Jesus. For example, the non-canonical Gospel of Phillip says, “[Jesus] loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her [word missing].”
3.Hung on a pole, not necessarily a cross. For centuries scholars have known that the Greek New Testament word “stauros,” which gets t***slated into English as cross, can refer to a device of several shapes, commonly a single upright pole, “torture stake” or even tree. The Romans did not have a standard way of crucifying prisoners, and Josephus tells us that during the siege of Jerusalem soldiers nailed or tied their victims in a variety of positions. Early Christians may have centered in on the vertical pole with a crossbeam because it echoed the Egyptian ankh, a symbol of life, or simply because it was more artistically and symbolically distinctive than the alternatives. Imagine millions of people wearing a golden pole on a chain around their necks.
4.Short, not tall. The typical Jewish man at the time of the Roman Empire was just over five feet tall, which makes this a best guess for the height of Jesus. That he is typically depicted taller likely derives from the mental challenge people have in distinguishing physical stature from other kinds of stature. Great men are called “big men” and “larger than life.” In ancient times they often were assigned divine parentage and miraculous births, and the idea that Jesus was uniquely divine has created a strong pull over time to depict him as taller than is likely. A good illustration of this is the Shroud of Turin, which is just one of many such Jesus-shrouds that circulated during medieval times and which bears the (now reproduced) image of a man closer to six feet in height.
5.Born in a house, not the stable of an inn. The miraculous birth story of Jesus is a late, maybe 2nd century addition to the gospels, and consequently it contains many fascinating mythic elements and peculiarities. But the idea that Jesus was born in a stable got added to the Christmas story even later. In the original narrative, Joseph and Mary probably would have stayed with relatives, and the phrase “no room for them in the inn (gr: kataluma)” is better t***slated “no room for them in the upper room.” Later storytellers did not understand that people of the time might bring animals into their ground floor, as in Swiss housebarns, and they assumed that the presence of a manger implied a stable.
6.Named Joshua, not Jesus. The name Joshua (in Hebrew Y’hoshu&#703;a meaning “deliverance” or “salvation”), was common among Jews in the Ancient Near East as it is today. Joshua and Jesus are the same name, but are t***slated differently in our modern Bible to distinguish Jesus from the Joshua of the Old Testament, who leads the Hebrew people to the Promised Land. In actuality, though, the relationship between the two figures is fascinating and important. Some scholars believe that the New Testament gospels are mostly updated retellings of the more ancient Joshua story, remixed with episodes from stories of Elisha and Elijah and Moses. A modern parallel can be found in the way that Hollywood writers have reworked Shakespearean tropes and plot elements into dozens of modern movies (though for a very different purpose).
7.Number of apostles (12) from astrology, not history. Whether Jesus had 12 disciples who ranked above his other dev**ees is an open question, as their names vary from list to list. Since the Gospels echo the story of Joshua, the “12” apostles most immediately mirror the 12 tribes of Israel. But the number 12 was considered auspicious by many ancient people, including the Israelites, and the 189 repetitions of the number 12 in the Bible ultimately may derive from the same pre-historical roots as the 12 signs of the zodiac and 12 months of the year. Astrotheology or star worship preceded the Hebrew religion, and shaped both the Bible and Western religions more broadly. One might point to the 12 Olympian gods or 12 sons of Odin, or the 12 days of Christmas or 12 “legitimate” successors to the prophet Mohammed.
8.Prophecies recalled, not foretold. Even people who aren’t too sure about the divinity of Jesus sometimes think that the way he fulfilled prophecies was a bit spooky, like the writings of Nostradamus. In reality, Scooby Doo could solve this one in a single episode with four pieces of information: First, Old Testament prophecies were well known to 1st century Jews, and a messianic figure who wanted to fulfill some of these prophecies could simply do so. For example, in the book of Matthew, Jesus seeks a donkey to ride into Jerusalem “that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet” (Matthew 21:4). Second, “gospels” are a genre of devotional literature rather than objective histories, which means that the authors had every reason to shape their stories around earlier predictions. Third, scholars now believe that some Bible texts once thought to be prophecies (for example in the Book of Revelation) actually relate to events that were past or current at the time of writing. Finally, a psychological phenomenon known as the “Barnum Effect” ensures that those who want to believe in prophecies (or astrology, for that matter) will find amazing coincidences if they look hard enough.
9.Some Jesus quotes not from Jesus, others uncertain. Lists of favorite Jesus sayings abound online. Some of the most popular are the Beatitudes (Blessed are the meek, etc.) or the story of the woman caught in adultery (Let he who is without sin cast the first stone) or the Golden Rule (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, which, we are told, sums up the Law and the Prophets.) Which words actually from Jesus? This question has been debated fiercely by everyone from 3rd century Catholic Councils to the 20th Century Jesus Seminar. Even Thomas Jefferson weighed in, but much remains unclear. The New Testament Gospels were written long after Jesus would have died, and no technology existed with which to record his teachings in real time, unless a he wrote them down himself, which he didn’t. We can be confident that at least some of the wise and timeless words and catchy proverbs attributed to Jesus are actually from earlier or later thinkers. For example, the Golden Rule was articulated before the time of Christ by the Rabbi Hillel the Elder, who similarly said it was the “whole Torah.” By contrast, the much loved story of the woman caught in adultery doesn’t appear in manuscripts until the 4th century. Attributing words (or whole texts) to a famous person was common in the Ancient Near East, because it gave those words extra weight. Small wonder, then, that so many genuinely valuable insights ended up, in one way or another, paired with the name of Jesus.

The person of Jesus, if indeed there was a single historical rabbi at the root of our traditions, is shrouded in the fog of history leaving us only with a set of hunches and traditions that far too often get treated as knowledge. The “facts” I have listed here are largely trivial; it doesn’t really matter whether Jesus was tall or short, or how he cut his hair. But it does matter, tremendously, that “facts” people claim to know about how Jesus saw himself, and God and humanity are equally tenuous. In the words of Mark Twain: It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.

The teachings attributed to Jesus mix enduring spiritual and moral insights with irrelevancies and Judaica and bits of Iron Age culture, some of which are truly awful. That leaves each of us, from the privileged vantage of the 21st century, with both a right and a responsibility to consider the evidence and make our own best guesses about what is real and how we should then live. A good starting place might be a little more recognition that we don’t know nearly as much as we’d like to think, and a lot of what we know for sure is probably wrong.
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AND?

Why would you go to so much trouble?

Lucifer will go to no lengths to debunk the t***h about Jesus.

Maybe you can assist him a bit more if you search the internet a bit harder!
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Jul 1, 2015 13:10:58   #
Sassy Lass wrote:
I've been wondering for quite awhile, why we, as conservatives, can't seem to win a break from this democrap administration. We win a landslide in two consecutive midterms, Republican governors head up over thirty states, yet we continually end up bowing down to this administration who says up, when it's down; sideways, when it's vertical; blue sky, when it's raining...well, you get the picture.

The following is a take on just what might be going on:

http://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2015/06/30/are-key-republican-leaders-in-dc-being-blackmailed-n2018837
I've been wondering for quite awhile, why we, as c... (show quote)



"Is that the purpose of government agencies like the IRS, DOJ, FBI, SEC and the NSA that are abusing our rights- to listen to us…to watch us…to find something we’ve done wrong…and then use it to intimidate, harass, threaten or extort key conservative figures so that Obama can 'fundamentally change America'?"

It is now, under the current dictatorship!!!
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