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Sep 29, 2021 17:15:04   #
LogicallyRight wrote:
I and only I have a right to decide what goes in my body.

And somehow we now have a government and CEOs of many companies deciding what I have to have forced into my body or I might lose my job. I might soon be unable to even leave home or go out for groceries. Look at Australia. I am shunned by my friends and associates as being unclean, and dangerous. This forced entry into my body can possibly k**l me, or severely disable me and their are many who have been so affected. It could effect future reproductive issues and my potential future off spring. No one knows how bad it might effect me in the future, mentally and physically. Sort of like a rapist telling me to relax, you'll like it better and you might even enjoy it. I'm doing this for your own good.

Let's look at this line by line.

And somehow we now have a government and CEOs of many companies deciding what I have to be forced into my body or I might lose my job. Like the boss demanding sex on M, W and F or get a new job.

I might soon be unable to even leave home or go out for groceries. Look at Australia. Like being kidnapped and held prisoner at the will of the boss.

I am shunned by my friends and associates as being unclean, and dangerous. Shamed for not enjoying the ongoing orgy of drug usage without any long term proof of its effects on people.

This forced entry into my body can possibly k**l me, or severely disable me and there are many who have been so affected. Many rape victims are murdered or maimed.

It could effect future reproductive issues and my potential future off spring. You might have to carry an unwanted baby, get an a******n that you can't stand the thought of, or get an STD that is incurable, or get stuck with a disabled child, or even loose your child that you are already carrying.

No one knows how bad it might affect me in the future, mentally and physically. Many rape victims suffer throughout their lives over that invasion into their body, not just with physical damage but the mental horrors that never go away.

Sort of like a rapist telling me to relax, you'll like it better and you might even enjoy it. I'm doing this for your own good. Just take the experimental shot. You will be safer to be around and we will let you associate with us, even though the shot gives no protection from getting C***d, you might not even know you have C***d and you might not know who you spread it to. We're doing this for your own good, and the profits of big pharma, and the exercise in total obedience to the state, and solidifying their power over everyone for their benefit and not yours.

Just an interesting comparison
Logically Right
I and only I have a right to decide what goes in m... (show quote)


You wrote: "I and only I have a right to decide what goes in my body."

How do you feel about a bullet going into your body in a war?

How do you feel about entering a situation which increases your chances of being k**led, maimed, or traumatized in a war?

Do you have a duty in a war? This is at least debatable. The simplest answer is: Yes.

Humanity is at war with a v***s.
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Sep 28, 2021 15:32:29   #
nonalien1 wrote:
Yup like when they said C***d deaths in children in Florida doubled. Yeah from two kids to five . still a small number and none without comorbids


Thank you for following that idea about numbers.

I don't know about C***d and children.

Regarding people in general, a lot more people (a) die, (b) get very sick, and (c) get mildly sick, from C***d than from v******tion.

Also, the people who die, get very sick, or get mildly sick, from C***d tend to have been infected by _unv******ted_ people.
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Sep 28, 2021 15:12:34   #
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
You sound just like her.


Would she also say, "God forbid that you should ever have a point."?
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Sep 26, 2021 17:46:55   #
skyrider wrote:
https://www.brighteon.com/5d8c962f-8d02-4b28-a63f-c703877fe40c


Here's a hypothetical situation:

At Time "A": Before a given v*****e was developed, there were zero (0) deaths from that v*****e.

At Time "B": After that v*****e was developed and a million people were v******ted with it, it is found that one (1) of them died from the v*****e.

At Time "C": After ten million people were v******ted with it, suppose ten (10) of those died from the v*****e. That would indicate that the death rate from the v*****e might be 10 in 10 million, a rate of 0.000001.

Ten (10) is 1000% of one (1).

Also, 0.000001 is more than zero by an infinite factor.

(Basically, those numbers are unhelpful and not meaningful in any useful way. It just shows that it's easy to calculate some numbers that look big but don't mean much. "1000%" looks like a big number but may or may not be significant, depending on the situation.)

Meanwhile, a much larger percentage of unv******ted people die from C***d as compared with the percentage of v******ted people dying from C***d.

I tried listening to and watching the video at your link. The sound quality is poor, so I couldn't get it all. Is there a transcript of it? A transcript would have been much easier to analyze. I couldn't understand all the technical aspects. Some of the reasoning seemed shaky to me. Near the end, she seemed to be claiming that, since C***d variants were developing at about the same time as people were being v******ted, then the v*****es were somehow causing variants to develop. Does anyone think it's sensible to blame the v*****es for variant development?

(V*****es _would_ have _some_ effect on variants' development, just because v*****es change the environment that the variants might develop in. But v*****es probably decrease variant development (more than increase it), by decreasing the susceptibility of the population to v***s incubation.)

And even if that is sensible, then would the people have been better off not being v******ted at all? No, they wouldn't; because, if they were not v******ted at all, more of them would be dying of C***d, to such a large degree as to dwarf the other aspects of the situation.
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Sep 26, 2021 17:11:41   #
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
Are you related to Nancy Pelosi?


What's your point?
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Sep 26, 2021 15:43:22   #
tbutkovich wrote:
Cruz and Trump are Smart and Smarter as compared to Harris and Biden who are Dumb and Dumber. Tell me one thing the present dimwit duo has done in their eight months in office that Americans find brilliant. Response: “Nichts, Nada Zilch!”


"Brilliant"? Nothing comes to mind. But I don't look for "brilliant" in a president nor in a vice-president. "Competent" is more important for such a position. Brilliancy could be erratic, but competency tends to be stable. I find Joe Biden competent. I've heard him speak. He speaks well. (In contrast, Donald Trump hardly says anything that a typical 8th-grade bully couldn't come up with.). Biden has connections and respect going both ways: he respects other people and they respect him. Biden has lots of relevant experience. As for Harris, I think she's a sk**led prosecutor and good at arguing or cross-examining people. I don't know much else about her, except that she has _some_ relevant experience for being president or vice-president (more than Trump had in 2016 but maybe less than Pence had in 2016). So, revisiting that thought about being "brilliant": is there anything "brilliant" about Trump, Pence, or Cruz? Trump's _daring_ enough to have flashes of brilliance, although I don't recall him ever having any. Trump also appears erratic and very irresponsible. Even if he were "brilliant" it wouldn't make him a good president. (And if we were to regard Pence, it's hard to imagine him being brilliant. Stable, maybe, but not brilliant. Sane, maybe, but not really intelligent -- although maybe he just doesn't reveal much about himself, and he could be really smart under that very bland exterior.) As for Cruz, is there anything really notable about him (aside from daring to say things)?
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Sep 26, 2021 00:51:10   #
3507 wrote:
I think that is funny, as though you had said Dumb and Dumber would be the ticket.

I agree that Ted Cruz is not afraid to say some dumb thing. He'd be a better candidate if he even cared whether what he says is true.


That said, note that, back in 2016, Ted Cruz was probably better qualified to be President that Donald Trump was. At least Cruz had some years of being in _positions_ where he _could_ have had relevant experience! According to Wikipedia:

"Rafael Edward "Ted" Cruz is an American politician and attorney serving as the junior United States Senator for Texas since 2013. A member of the Republican Party, Cruz served as Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to 2008. After graduating from Princeton University and Harvard Law School, Cruz pursued a career in politics."

Writing a similar paragraph for Trump is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:40:11   #
tbutkovich wrote:
Ted Cruz would be the the best pick for Trump. He is not afraid to speak up and speak out!


I think that is funny, as though you had said Dumb and Dumber would be the ticket.

I agree that Ted Cruz is not afraid to say some dumb thing. He'd be a better candidate if he even cared whether what he says is true.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:17:42   #
archie bunker wrote:
The "violence against women act" always confused me.
Isn't violence against anyone already against the law?


Yes! I feel the same way.

(The situation is probably more complex than that. But I did not like the focus on women, as if they were more important or more innocent than men.)
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Sep 25, 2021 23:59:49   #
proud republican wrote:
So I have read the story from Bad Bob that morgues running out of room due to C***d!! So every death , every hospitalization now is due to Civid??? No more heart attacks, no more pneumonias or flu) it's all about C***d, right??? Are they doing autopsies??? I bet not!! It's all about scarring people! If we have C***d, you don't have to work...Big Brother Government will give you money to stay home....And then they complain about unemployment!! It's so ridiculous...Chuck Schumer was saying o believe yesterday, 'We need open Borders because we need employees because America has unemployment problem!!!' I wonder why??? ..... This is ridiculous! RIDICULOUS!!
So I have read the story from Bad Bob that morgues... (show quote)


First consider whether the C***d diagnoses really are C***d. Usually I would trust a doctor's diagnosis about something like that.

Then, if for some reason you don't trust that set of diagnoses, then look at the bigger picture of overall death rate (that is, the total number of deaths overall, without regard to wh**ever's causing them). I read that it went up significantly. Why did it go up? It so happens that the overall death rate went up right when we had this p******c! This indicates that C***d is probably causing a lot of those extra deaths. (It doesn't prove it, but it just indicates that that's probably true. Why else would the death rate from all causes go up right at that time? If it had gone up just a little, we could disregard it; but it went up by a lot.)

Then, if you don't believe any of that (because you don't trust the people who say those things), then I would say: you probably trust _somebody_ (unless you're just like an island thinking all by yourself all the time). So, how do you decide whom to trust?
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Sep 25, 2021 14:55:42   #
It's more like they have an emotional investment and don't like being proven wrong.

When I'm wrong, I don't like to be proven wrong either.

When I read the news, just like so many on the political Right do, I spend more time being entertained than I do in being informed.

People are full of "cognitive distortions". When one has an emotional connection and a cognitive distortion, it's really hard to understand it and break out of it.

People who lie a lot, or who are duped, only very rarely admit those things.

So how do we discover and appreciate "the t***h" and the better ways of doing things?
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Sep 25, 2021 14:44:19   #
Kevyn wrote:
Here's a look at some of the claims by Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, in a hearing to present its report on Friday:

LOGAN, claiming e******n results were deleted from Maricopa County’s e******n management system: “So some individual went into an application, and they chose specifically to run something that would clear all records in the system that was used to generate the official results, the day before an audit started.”

THE FACTS: No, the data never disappeared; it was just moved. Maricopa County officials made copies of the data and archived it before removing it from the e******n management system.

“We have backups for all Nov. data & those archives were never subpoenaed,” the county said in a statement on Twitter. County officials said data cannot be stored indefinitely on the e******n management system. “Cyber Ninjas don’t understand the business of e******ns," the county said. “We can’t keep everything on the EMS server because it has storage limits.”

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LOGAN: “23,344 people v**ed when they should no longer have access, or would not normally have access" to v****g in Maricopa County because they have moved.

THE FACTS: No, that’s not what happened. Logan reviewed the names of v**ers against a commercial database of addresses, not a database of v**ers. He found that 23,344 reported moving before b****ts went out in October. While the review suggests something improper, e******n officials note that v**ers such as college students, those who own vacation homes and military members, can move to temporary locations while still legally v****g at the address where they are registered.

“A competent reviewer of an e******n would not make a claim like that,” said Trey Grayson, a former Republican secretary of state in Kentucky.

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LOGAN: There were 9,041 mail-in v**ers who “were mailed one b****t but somehow two b****ts were received, which I do not know how you would have one b****t sent and two received."

THE FACTS: This isn't unusual, and it's not a sign of wrongdoing. The file Logan consulted, known as EV33, shows two returned b****t entries whenever a v**er's mail-in b****t has a signature discrepancy that gets fixed.

When a v**er mails in a b****t with a blank or mismatched signature, e******n officials contact the v**er. If the discrepancy is resolved, they enter a second record in the EV33 file, e******n officials said.

"The appropriate conclusion to draw from this finding is that the early v****g team was performing their statutory-required responsibility by reviewing signatures on all returned mail-in b****ts," Maricopa County tweeted in response to Logan's claim.
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The Cyber Ninjas weren't hired for their competence nor for knowing anything about anything.
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Sep 24, 2021 23:31:49   #
Carol Kelly wrote:
I think you missed the point. Wishful thinking again.


Thanks for the analysis. Sure, I may have missed the point of the original post. It mentioned a can of worms and FEMA. That there would be a can of worms associated with FEMA would not be very surprising. I was just commenting on what I thought was interesting in the news lately that might have had something to do with the Original vague, terse post. Feel free to expand more educationally than to just say "missed the point" and "wishful thinking".
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Sep 24, 2021 22:42:11   #
woodguru wrote:
I saw a little teaser that caught my eye that trump's sources are in the radar...there ios a can of worms considering all the fraud going on with FEMA sourcing and supplies.


This morning, or maybe last night, I heard on the radio that a congressional committee is subpoenaing some people who were in the Trump administration.

I was wondering why they didn't subpoena Trump, and I was wondering _when_ they would eventually subpoena Trump.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:33:15   #
NotBrainwashed wrote:
Simple answer:
You really DON'T get it do you?

We're simply sick and tired of your self righteous BS. And Socialists are NOT good even though you desire to be one.

You support a clown that has no ability to distinguish fact from fiction. Instead they SUPPORT fiction.

Yes, we ARE armed and dangerous so you would be well advised to remember that when you are promoting anti-American BS. We WILL defend our country from zealots like you that sanctify the anti-American sentiment you espouse.
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Ah. You are talking trash. And, you are not making much sense.

Self-righteous is when you shoot or threaten people, because you are so sure they're that bad, and you are so sure that you're so good, that you have the right to judge and threaten and shoot them.

"Clowns who mix up fact from fiction" describes Trump and his supporters. I've already written about that (using different terminology), maybe in this very thread.

Thanks for the reminder that you're dangerous, though I already knew it, and already made that pretty clear already in my own comment. It was one of the points I wished to make. Looks like you already knew that one.

I might have hoped you'd respect my decision to not shoot you and not directly threaten you with violence. But maybe that's not what you respect people for.
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