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Jun 7, 2020 22:13:30   #
dtucker300 wrote:
Fair enough. Something very wicked and nefarious is afoot. It is more than just people being fed up with the police seemingly able to act with impunity and not be held accountable for their unlawful actions. There are forces at work only interested in destroying the liberty we all enjoy. It is not only some bad actors in B*M and A****a that are to blame. There are also alt-right factions who want things to develop into an all-out race-war. There are L*****ts who want to destroy America. There are lots of sick people who just want anarchy for the fun of it, others who are thugs and some enjoy the high they get from l**ting and r**ting. they can appreciate the freedoms they enjoy. Meanly every person peacefully protesting has the right to lawful assemble and that is what they are doing, but they need to be ever vigilant of the interlopers who have infiltrated the demonstrations with the intent of instigating and agitating the crowd toward violence and unlawfulness. They must be aware that there are these bad seeds among them and be ready to stop them instead of relying on the police. I watch one demonstrator with a baseball bat heading toward a business with the intent to break the windows and a half-dozen people step in and prevented him from doing so. Passions run deep and we need people who can maintain cooler heads than those easily swayed to violence to be alert to step in and prevent violence from erupting. The people who prevented this individual from carrying-out his vandalism was hugged and directed away peacefully. He should be forever grateful to these people for stopping him. Remember, everyone is on camera these days. It will catch up with them.
Fair enough. Something very wicked and nefarious ... (show quote)



If only we could all get along, huh??


But....yes. There are people everywhere that look to do evil. So.....you stay safe. Keep that discerning eye, man.
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Jun 7, 2020 21:50:12   #
dtucker300 wrote:
You these are the kinds of stupid things people say. Of Course we don't execute drug Users and to suggest anyone think this way is more hyperbole and disingenuous of you. G****e F***d his was an anomaly. Protest all you want. I didn't make it a partisan thing and I didn't suggest B*M is white-hating r****ts. I did say you used a tactic that liberals resort to regularly. That doesn't mean you are a liberal but it does make me question the sincerity of your beliefs. Now that you mention it, some B*M members are r****ts and some aren't. B*M should be a d******c t*******t group, thank you very much! You're getting your panties all in a wad over a stupid cartoon that was absurd. As I have said many times, there are always going to be a few bad apples in the bunch. Furthermore, we aren't talking about Daniel Shaver. Why didn't people get on the streets about that instead of waiting for the G****e F***d incident who doesn't deserve martyrdom? You can add to this all the cases and examples you want. Perhaps all the Somalis in Minneapolis would rather have Sharia Law?

Here is another perspective from form an LAPD Officers:

LAPD Retired
June 5, 2020
I haven’t really spoken out about our nation’s situation, but after the Los Angeles mayor referred to Police Officers as “K**lers” I could no longer keep quiet. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not supporting the Minneapolis Police officer’s actions of kneeling on the suspect’s neck and for the duration he did. The LAPD has specific training on how to deal with suspects in medical distress and this type of misconduct wouldn’t have happened or been tolerated here.
But Mayor Garcetti’s comment has to be the single most inflammatory and dangerous comment yet made by a public official towards law enforcement. What kind of v**e pandering, shortsighted, and reckless stupidity is this?
For 31 years my wife and I have served the citizens of Los Angeles as LAPD sworn Officers, with honor, dignity and respect. We haven’t k**led anyone and the vast majority of my Brother and Sister Officers haven’t either. Most will never fire their weapon in the line of duty, yet alone k**l someone! Only 1 out of a 1000 officers are involved in a fatal use of force during their career. That means 99.9 percent of Officers don’t k**l anyone during their entire career in the performance of their duties.
Yet the mayor of LA just referred to all police officers as “k**lers.” Not the criminal element that is actually involved in committing criminal homicides. How d********g this is! Talk about bigotry! Judging a person for the uniform they wear is no better than judging someone for the color of their skin. This only gives a false justification for criminals to resist lawful arrest and motivate unprovoked attacks on officers.
I guess I’m just sick and tired of the complaining and second-guessing of how police officers do our jobs, especially from people that have no clue pm how to do my job and either couldn’t or wouldn’t imagine risking their own lives to go into harm's way to protect others. Enforcing the law has always had an ugly side to it. On a rare occasion, a suspect will resist arrest. There is no such thing as a pleasant use of force, it always looks horrible to the inexperienced person.
But I can assure you, there is no way to peacefully restrain and subdue an aggressive criminal that is intent on violently resisting arrest or fighting with police. It’s always going to look bad and unnerving. And I’m especially sick and tired of the media and the outspoken minority of individuals in this nation completely absolving the involved criminal of any culpability or responsibility for their actions that put them in that situation in the first place. Their blame completely falls on the Officer that is doing his job.
I’m so done with the, “They shot him over a ticket or petty theft” comment. No, the suspect was detained for a simple traffic infraction or petty crime but was shot because sometime during the contact, the suspect decided to attack the officer or presented a deadly threat that forced the Officer’s hand. Officers are always reactionary to the suspect’s actions. Here’s a simple solution to law enforcement-related deaths. DON’T RESIST ARREST!!!! Submit to arrest and have your day in court. Trust me if the arrest was unlawful, you’ll get paid.
This continual dehumanizing of Police Officers is a very dangerous and slippery slope. Now there is a motion to cut the LAPD budget and calls to defund law enforcement completely. Really? Who is going to provide security to the vast majority of the citizens that can’t or are unwilling to protect themselves?
The citizens of this nation have employed men and women to do this dangerous “dirty” work of dealing with the criminal element for centuries, but they don’t want to see what it occasionally takes to deal with them. Sometimes it’s horrible, dirty, and deadly.
I’m sorry to carry on this long, but I have to say, a society that makes war on its police had better learn to live with its criminals. It’s going to come to a time to pick a side. I’m all for peaceful protests and reforms, but this crap is an all-out war on law enforcement.
And if you’re offended by my comments, or support the terrorist organizations of A****a or B*M then please feel free to defriend me at this time. I’ve seen first-hand the destruction they have caused and the deadly attacks they have perpetuated on Officers.
You these are the kinds of stupid things people sa... (show quote)


Fair enough. I apologize for putting words in your mouth.

There we disagree, and that is alright. I simply posted the cartoon because I thought it explained the cause better than I did. And it was intended for the hyperbolic OP of this thread.

I do believe A****a are terrorists, though.
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Jun 7, 2020 21:44:43   #
Navigator wrote:
The murder by the cop is also alleged; do you doubt it? Floyd was no longer resisting when he was being kneeled on which is why the cop is being prosecuted for not releasing the pressure. Floyd did resist being placed into the police car so that's why he had to be restrained; restrained, not k**led.


What exactly is your point, then? We arrive at the same conclusion: guy was k**led.
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Jun 7, 2020 21:07:36   #
Crayons wrote:
Your comment has just been captured


Oh no! Are the Real Patriots gonna come get me????
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Jun 7, 2020 21:01:58   #
Crayons wrote:
Marxist's like yourself only want more chaos, more dope and more death


I'm actually an anarchist
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Jun 7, 2020 20:57:28   #
Navigator wrote:
High on amphetamines and f******l and passing counterfeit 20's; just your average upstanding citizen. In addition he was a 6'6" 260# monster resisting arrest. Floyd needed to be forcibly restrained and even though Floyd was neither a martyr nor a choirboy none of that justified the cop kneeling on his neck until Floyd was dead.


First off. The PD has been completely mum about that so called f**e 20. Not a word. Hence, the word "alleged". Dunno if you've heard of it.Find me one source that proves he actually passed a bad bill. And if he was resisting, which he definitely was not, of course add more force. The point isn't that he was a saint who got martyred. The point is that he was a man who was murdered by a cop.
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Jun 7, 2020 20:37:00   #
Crayons wrote:
We must cut off the heads of the luciferian snakes.

Stopping all of this involves Executing the see'eye'aye's cornholed south american and gulf cartel leader$ who use cheap chicom chemicals in their dope manufacturing...Execute Any American (top down) that is found to be involved in the distribution of chicom f******l or illicit chicom made chemicals 'stateside'


Not the point, but it never is with you, is it Crayons?
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Jun 7, 2020 20:05:14   #
dtucker300 wrote:
The first words out of every liberal's mouth when someone challenges them or disagrees with them is to say, "Do some research." Then they ignore the research themselves, and try to present their argument withing narrowly defined parameters supported by their confirmation bias. You are trying to play both sides of the fence.
Then don't break the law and when approached by a police officer, cooperate. We could go on all day and conflate the issue by drawing more and more examples into the mix. The fact is B****s are being k**led by B****s and the media and the black community leaders ignore it, instead, making a two-bit criminal a martyr because he was k**led by a White Officer. We still do not know everything about this case. However, G****e F***d didn't deserve to die. As I have said repeatedly here and elsewhere, condemnation was swift, nearly unanimous, and rightly so. Nevertheless, many people feel entitled to challenge an officer's authority at every turn. More B****s die at the hands of Black police officers than at the hands of White officers.
The first words out of every liberal's mouth when ... (show quote)





I have no problem if you disagree. I don't know why you have to make a partisan thing. I'm not a liberal. But anyways..... That's why we are having a conversation. I'm telling you to do your research because you think B*M is all white hating r****ts, which clearly indicates you, you know, did not do your research and are choosing to look at the issue one sided. So my comment is perfectly appropriate. So calm down.

I'm not trying to play both sides of the fence at all. I am explaining to you what this movement means to people, because of your skewed perception. These kids are protesting something that is important to them and I respect that. A lotta young people couldn't care less about politics nowadays.


I also agree with you about black on black violence. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a ghetto black guy think he's all gangsta and better than his brother and willing to k**l him over some perceived slight. It's toxic for everyone. Thats why you need more education about it. We're not gonna get there if you start condemning people. We will if you're willing to correct people. What is your point about cooperating? I don't know if you saw, tucker, but Floyd was handcuffed and subdued. Even if you have someone who is not cooperating, lethal force is always a last resort. And a lot of police brutality victims either fully cooperated (like Daniel Shaver, who was basically made to dance around by the cop before being lit up just because he tried to pull his pants up) or posed little threat. G****e F***d had not been a violent criminal for years, Tucker. Since when do we execute drug users?
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Jun 7, 2020 16:19:33   #
dtucker300 wrote:
These r**ts have gone wayyyy out of control? Any r**t is "Out of Control" That's why it is a r**t.

What an absurd cartoon. Here is Hyperbole. Black L***s M****r has taken on the meaning that Black Lives deserve more consideration than other lives.

Blue L***s M****r. Unborn L***s M****r. Democrats L***s M****r. Republican L***s M****r.
Human life is precious! Just like all Forests matter. And All L***s M****r. They do not matter more or less.

So go ahead and say Black Live Matter, but don't act so High and Mighty when someone responds with Black Live Matter no More or Less than any other life.
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How is it absurd? It literally reiterates what you just said. All l***s m****r, of course they do. This is about cops k*****g the black community, and right now they need help. In terms of cops k*****g them, they do need a little more consideration, and understanding from us. It's not that they matter more. It is that they feel they are being singled out and stifled by cops. Just like how poor w****s in rural areas need help from the opiate addications forced upon them by the drug industry. They also probably feel singled out. Maybe that's not a good comparison, but you get the idea.

Maybe some of the nuts see it that way. I've seen some crazy folks who are just plain r****t against white people and flat out deny that they get k**led by cops too. But do some research. Plenty of those kids protesting also took up other people who aren't black who were gunned down by cops. Daniel Shaver, to name one. His k*****g was just as chilling as Floyd's. His name is being lifted up as well.
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Jun 7, 2020 16:03:41   #
GoCubs wrote:
I thought this was about the cash G****e F***d carried. Maybe he was a cash only guy like you are an ATM only guy. I fail to see how it matters what your, or mine, or anyone else's preferred method of payment is. Fact is, it's possible he didn't know it was counterfeit and none of us know if he did. Furthermore, while probably highly unlikely, I bet people have received f**e 20's out of ATMs as well.

His character is not going to be a factor in the trial anyway. The DA is not going to say, "Your Honor, take into consideration that he had committed crimes before". That ain't gonna happen. Floyd is not going to be on trial. He is dead. Chauvin and the other three are the ones who will be on trial.

So ya' see, like I said before, not a single bit of this matters because he is dead. He was murdered. Simple as that. And no matter his past, the cop took it upon himself to illegally invoke an unjust penalty. Last time I checked, neither drug users (nor counterfeiters) get executed for their crimes. Which all makes your entire argument moot.
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Very well put.
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Jun 7, 2020 15:57:07   #
Simple Sam wrote:
I think he died from Excited Delirium Syndrome. I wrote about it earlier and gave links.


Well, in that case, I will choose to do my own research on that.

Also, you once again dodged the question.
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Jun 7, 2020 15:45:40   #
Simple Sam wrote:
We have heard nothing from the officers involved nor seen their body cameras. We do not know their side.

By the way your "windpipe" is not located on the side of your neck, unless you are a freak of nature.



You didn't answer my question, which can be answered independently of knowing the cops side.

If he was suffocated by the cop, then what body part do you think had its airflow restricted?
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Jun 7, 2020 15:24:57   #
Simple Sam wrote:
A changed man would not be taking and carrying the drugs he spent years in jail for nor would a changed man be passing counterfeit money.


First of all, the PD that k**led the guy has been completely mum on that *alleged* counterfeit money.

And I can't speak to the drug use. Maybe he was an addict and needed help. He certainly was not violent anymore. He even seemed to be a community leader. My point being, Sam, if the guy was murdered, did he really deserve it? Because you seem to imply that he did and that a guy who pressed down on his windpipe for 9 minutes is seemingly in the clear.
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Jun 7, 2020 15:05:21   #
GoCubs wrote:
Lol! Dude, that's who she thinks I am too! Oh, I can guarantee you she thinks this is a conversation between one person. No doubt. Pretty hilarious. Have a good one, Rumi...... errr.... I mean Daredevil.


You too, Go Rumi I MEAN...Cubs...
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Jun 7, 2020 14:50:02   #
GoCubs wrote:
Thanks Daredevil. For some reason, this person has seemingly made it her life mission to follow me around on OPP and look for even the tiniest thing to attack me on. Apparently, she thinks I am an alias of someone who's been on OPP for seven years (according to her). Why she cares is a mystery to me. It's pretty funny though, as I had never heard of OPP until 4/19/20 - the day before I joined. I've tried to convince her several times that she was mistaken, but she's having none of that - just keeps following me around, certain that I'm someone else. You'd think one would have something better to do. I gave up trying to convince her a few weeks ago as she seems to be one of those people who, once their mind is made up, that's it. No way to change it - ever. I am getting a pretty fair amount of amusement out of it, but thanks for having my back nonetheless.
Thanks Daredevil. For some reason, this person has... (show quote)




Oh, dude, no kidding! Me too! She thinks I'm some person named Rumi!

Yeah, shes pretty loony, as I've noticed the mainstays on here kind of are as well.....

Yeah I got you, man. Know what's funny? She probably thinks this conversation is just one person talking to themselves
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