Posts for: OldGlory1951
Feb 17, 2018 16:43:44 #
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11r20 wrote:
Called my rep's and told them to do the right thing For Once,
They've promised us that fence/wall for 20 years, Now they
wanted to enforce a National ID Card for Everyone...Next
it will be a chip in the head. It Never ends with the RINO's=DEMO's
The Budget Deal was really bad.
I've belonged to numbers since 04, sometimes i think they're goin soft
and I have to write my own letters.
They've promised us that fence/wall for 20 years, Now they
wanted to enforce a National ID Card for Everyone...Next
it will be a chip in the head. It Never ends with the RINO's=DEMO's
The Budget Deal was really bad.
I've belonged to numbers since 04, sometimes i think they're goin soft
and I have to write my own letters.
11r20.. I totally agree with your statement, 100%
Feb 17, 2018 16:41:16 #
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JFlorio wrote:
Haven’t seen one proposal I could v**e for yet. No amnesty period.
We need to completely put an end to Amnesty, and DACA, It is destroying our Nation and it's People, and we need to shut down all the Sanctuary cities and destroy them. Our Government needs to step up to the Plate and do their jobs right. No Half-Stepping. These Libs want what they want regardless of the harm of us.Feb 17, 2018 16:13:45 #
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The Things We See but Don't Say in the Afghanistan War
Maj. Danny Sjursen in an Afghan poppy field. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
Jordan, a young lieutenant at the time, calls it the “moment he realized s**t was going to get real that year.” See, we (Bandit Troop, 4th Squadron, 4th Cavalry) had been in the country only a few weeks back in March 2011. This was Pashmul, Zhari district, Kandahar province, Afghanistan—the spiritual and geographic heartland of the Taliban. One morning, I and some of my officers awoke to the sound of outgoing gunfire from one of our allied Afghan National Army (ANA) guard towers. This, of course, was not all that surprising, even for newbies like us. Our base, a little sandbagged Alamo alongside the Arghandab River, got attacked just about every one of our 365 long days in Pashmul. Besides, sometimes the Afghans just liked to shoot at nothing.
Thing is, there didn’t sound like any incoming fire this time. That’s because there wasn’t any. They were shooting at one of their own guys. Turns out one of our Afghan army partners decided to jump the wall and take off on an early vacation back home. No shock there. After all, Afghan desertion rates fluctuate, but tend to hover at around 1 in every 7 soldiers. What happened next was unforgivable, and, t***hfully, something I ought to have stopped sooner.
1st Lt. Jordan Rich enjoys a donated swing set in Charcusa, Afghanistan. (Photo by Maj. Danny Sjursen)
The grizzled Afghan army captain, who jointly commanded the outpost with me, ordered the captured deserter stripped naked, dressed in a white gown, and forced to crawl back and forth on his belly through the coarse gravel interior of the base. All the while, the captain trailed him, alternately whacking the prone crawler with a wooden stick and forcefully kicking him in the g*****ls. Jordan, Alex (another lieutenant) and I watched for far too long. I knew, heck, I could feel, what everyone was thinking: “Is Danny going to put a stop to this?” I didn’t—not soon enough, anyway. When the captain and I finally talked about the incident, he was apoplectic. How dare I, a 28-year-old American, question the way he, a 50-year-old veteran of 30 years of war, disciplined his own men. Through an interpreter, he told me it was “the Afghan way.”
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Just as in Iraq, I met many lovely people in my brief sojourn to southern Afghanistan. Most folks, in most places, it seems, just want to live their lives, provide for their families and find a brief moment of respite in this too cruel world. Still, throughout that year, I came into contact, again and again, with our purported allies’ “Afghan ways.” Each time, the moral failures of our “partners”—and the broader fiasco of the entire war effort—came into clearer view.
The local people mostly h**ed our Afghan allies, especially the old captain. In fact, they preferred to deal with me, the Caucasian Christian, more than with anyone in the Afghan army. This was disturbing, seeing as how our whole strategy rested on t***sitioning power and security to these “good” Afghans. Looking back, though, it made sense. First of all, I had all the money. The Afghan army was broke, and the villagers knew where their bread was buttered. More than that, though certainly imperfect, my troopers were professionals, trained and disciplined enough to treat most locals with respect and basic human rights. That couldn’t always be said of our allies.
Maj. Danny Sjursen, left, and 1st Lt. Alex Lamb. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
Besides, these Afghan soldiers—90 percent of whom were Tajiks, Uzbeks or Hazaras from the far north—were as foreign to the Pashtun villagers of the valley as we were. Most ANA spoke Dari, and they, too, needed interpreters to communicate with the Pashto-speaking locals. These were foreigners: Muslims, yes, but still not to be trusted.
Plenty of the Afghan soldiers were drug addicts. One day later that year, I hopped on a patrol to check on the local police at a smelly dump of an outpost just up the road. They didn’t seem too happy to see us. It’s amazing these guys didn’t get overrun—they probably had a tacit agreement of sorts with the Taliban—because the guard towers were empty and the out-of-uniform commander seemed high as a kite. I asked to inspect their armory and barracks, you know, to take a look around. Sure enough, in one dank, dark room we found a pubescent young “recruit” shirtless and surrounded by officers. My soldiers found a large bag of hashish on the kid. “No, no, mister. No hash!” they yelled. Then, through the interpreter, he tried to explain that it was birdseed. The kid even tried to eat the “seed” to prove his point. We confiscated the bag—it wasn’t birdseed.
Drug use was common among the Afghan security forces. Why wouldn’t it be? Afghanistan is a cash-crop economy. Its biggest commodity: opium. Heck, we walked through marijuana and opium fields daily, mostly just ignoring the stuff and waiting for the next ambush. After 16 years of on-again, off-again U.S. drug eradication efforts, the Afghan opium crop reached record levels last year. That’s no surprise. The government is often in on it. In my district, one of my colonel’s favorite Afghan police chiefs, Shafi Khan, himself owned two-thirds of the poppy my troops fought and died in. Chalk up another defeat for the good old US of A.
Related Articles
An Officer’s Path to Dissent
by Maj. Danny Sjursen
The End of Empire
by Chris Hedges
Peace First
by Eric Ortiz
Maj. Danny Sjursen, left, with his Afghan National Army partner, far right. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
Corruption was, and is, rampant in Afghanistan. I was just a lowly captain, watching Pashmul’s local drug lords skim off the top of our development money—we euphemistically called it “cash for work”—all the while selling heroin to our Taliban enemies. All that was small potatoes. My mentor, then a senior colonel serving in the Afghan capital of Kabul, told me how his partnered Afghan officers would show him pictures of their opulent mansions in Mumbai, India, built, no doubt, on something other than a modest bureaucrat’s salary. Many Afghan government officials own such villas—called “poppy palaces“—and pay for them through drug dealing and money laundering. Counterinsurgency, so I’ve read, requires a legitimate, local partner to succeed. Tell me, can we honestly call the mess in Kabul “legitimate”?
* * *
Drugs, torture, corruption. All of that we could just about handle. Almost. It’s the child rape that gets to you. We weren’t in Pashmul too long before my lieutenants and I got invited by a local village elder to an upcoming bacha bazi (boy play) party in town. We politely declined after my interpreter explained the basics to me: See, a bunch of old, powerful dudes would sit around and smoke hash while prepubescent boys danced around in women’s clothes. Then the elders would pick whoever they fancied, and, well, you can guess what came next.
This sickening tradition was all too common in rural Afghanistan, and it still is. One American special forces captain even got disciplined by his superiors for physically stopping a boy’s rape. Sounds crazy, right? Well, on my outpost, one of our young interpreters, Shafa, barely escaped a gang rape attempt by our own ANA just a couple of tents over from where we lifted weights.
Another morning, I found out—and was pretty damn upset—that my “partner” ANA captain had kept a prisoner zip-tied to his bedpost overnight before t***sferring him to the battalion holding facility. I try not to imagine how that evening went. This stuff happened, and happens, all the time. Recently, there have even been reports that U.S. military commanders directed soldiers to ignore such “traditional” Afghan “culture.” I never experienced that myself, but given our priorities, such directives would hardly surprise me.
Maj. Danny Sjursen eating with Afghan security forces. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
Look, Afghanistan is a mess, as bad as it’s ever been. Seven years ago, 100,000 American troops (of which I was but a small part) couldn’t change the “Afghan way,” or win an unwinnable war. What’s certain is there is nothing left to gain in that strategic sinkhole. Every minute of further occupation only dirties American hands further. Though it imagines itself as, and sometimes is, benevolent, the U.S. military is one thing for sure: complicit.
* * *
It’s long past time for the U.S. to take the world as it is, not as we wish it to be. Afghans are going to be Afghans, at least until they, not the U.S. military, decide they should act otherwise. As long as Uncle Sam is footing the bill, which ranges up to 90 percent of total Afghan GDP, the marginally legitimate, highly corrupt and morally dubious Afghan central government will stagger along—not quite losing, but nowhere near to winning—indefinitely. The U.S., which built and for decades propped up this Afghan state, must own its creation, in some ways a veritable Frankenstein’s monster, for years to come.
Shafi Khan, left, the poppy field owner and police chief, with Maj. Danny Sjursen, far right. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
I’m told veterans ought to be proud of their service. I even used to believe that. In Afghanistan I saw little worthy of p***e. That war, for me and for our republic, remains nothing but one immense moral injury. One, I fear, that we’ll live with for a long, long time.
The views expressed in this article are those of the author, expressed in an unofficial capacity, and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense or the U.S. government.
http://www.t***hdig.com
As a Veteran and US Navy Nurse from the Vietnam War Era, my heart is hurting for our poor troops, for all the pain and suffering that they all have to go through in this "Pits of Hell War" in Afghanistan. We need to end this 16 year bloodshed of our beloved Military. 
It's time for Afghanistan to clean up their own mess, and let us find peace for our Troops and let them, put this Insane and Evil Hell behind us, forever.. What do y'all think of this Evil War, in the Pits of Hell(Afghanistan)?
Let them deal with the Taliban and clean up their own mess.WE NEED PEACE!!!!!.
Maj. Danny Sjursen in an Afghan poppy field. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
Jordan, a young lieutenant at the time, calls it the “moment he realized s**t was going to get real that year.” See, we (Bandit Troop, 4th Squadron, 4th Cavalry) had been in the country only a few weeks back in March 2011. This was Pashmul, Zhari district, Kandahar province, Afghanistan—the spiritual and geographic heartland of the Taliban. One morning, I and some of my officers awoke to the sound of outgoing gunfire from one of our allied Afghan National Army (ANA) guard towers. This, of course, was not all that surprising, even for newbies like us. Our base, a little sandbagged Alamo alongside the Arghandab River, got attacked just about every one of our 365 long days in Pashmul. Besides, sometimes the Afghans just liked to shoot at nothing.
Thing is, there didn’t sound like any incoming fire this time. That’s because there wasn’t any. They were shooting at one of their own guys. Turns out one of our Afghan army partners decided to jump the wall and take off on an early vacation back home. No shock there. After all, Afghan desertion rates fluctuate, but tend to hover at around 1 in every 7 soldiers. What happened next was unforgivable, and, t***hfully, something I ought to have stopped sooner.
1st Lt. Jordan Rich enjoys a donated swing set in Charcusa, Afghanistan. (Photo by Maj. Danny Sjursen)
The grizzled Afghan army captain, who jointly commanded the outpost with me, ordered the captured deserter stripped naked, dressed in a white gown, and forced to crawl back and forth on his belly through the coarse gravel interior of the base. All the while, the captain trailed him, alternately whacking the prone crawler with a wooden stick and forcefully kicking him in the g*****ls. Jordan, Alex (another lieutenant) and I watched for far too long. I knew, heck, I could feel, what everyone was thinking: “Is Danny going to put a stop to this?” I didn’t—not soon enough, anyway. When the captain and I finally talked about the incident, he was apoplectic. How dare I, a 28-year-old American, question the way he, a 50-year-old veteran of 30 years of war, disciplined his own men. Through an interpreter, he told me it was “the Afghan way.”
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* * *
Just as in Iraq, I met many lovely people in my brief sojourn to southern Afghanistan. Most folks, in most places, it seems, just want to live their lives, provide for their families and find a brief moment of respite in this too cruel world. Still, throughout that year, I came into contact, again and again, with our purported allies’ “Afghan ways.” Each time, the moral failures of our “partners”—and the broader fiasco of the entire war effort—came into clearer view.
The local people mostly h**ed our Afghan allies, especially the old captain. In fact, they preferred to deal with me, the Caucasian Christian, more than with anyone in the Afghan army. This was disturbing, seeing as how our whole strategy rested on t***sitioning power and security to these “good” Afghans. Looking back, though, it made sense. First of all, I had all the money. The Afghan army was broke, and the villagers knew where their bread was buttered. More than that, though certainly imperfect, my troopers were professionals, trained and disciplined enough to treat most locals with respect and basic human rights. That couldn’t always be said of our allies.
Maj. Danny Sjursen, left, and 1st Lt. Alex Lamb. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
Besides, these Afghan soldiers—90 percent of whom were Tajiks, Uzbeks or Hazaras from the far north—were as foreign to the Pashtun villagers of the valley as we were. Most ANA spoke Dari, and they, too, needed interpreters to communicate with the Pashto-speaking locals. These were foreigners: Muslims, yes, but still not to be trusted.
Plenty of the Afghan soldiers were drug addicts. One day later that year, I hopped on a patrol to check on the local police at a smelly dump of an outpost just up the road. They didn’t seem too happy to see us. It’s amazing these guys didn’t get overrun—they probably had a tacit agreement of sorts with the Taliban—because the guard towers were empty and the out-of-uniform commander seemed high as a kite. I asked to inspect their armory and barracks, you know, to take a look around. Sure enough, in one dank, dark room we found a pubescent young “recruit” shirtless and surrounded by officers. My soldiers found a large bag of hashish on the kid. “No, no, mister. No hash!” they yelled. Then, through the interpreter, he tried to explain that it was birdseed. The kid even tried to eat the “seed” to prove his point. We confiscated the bag—it wasn’t birdseed.
Drug use was common among the Afghan security forces. Why wouldn’t it be? Afghanistan is a cash-crop economy. Its biggest commodity: opium. Heck, we walked through marijuana and opium fields daily, mostly just ignoring the stuff and waiting for the next ambush. After 16 years of on-again, off-again U.S. drug eradication efforts, the Afghan opium crop reached record levels last year. That’s no surprise. The government is often in on it. In my district, one of my colonel’s favorite Afghan police chiefs, Shafi Khan, himself owned two-thirds of the poppy my troops fought and died in. Chalk up another defeat for the good old US of A.
Related Articles
An Officer’s Path to Dissent
by Maj. Danny Sjursen
The End of Empire
by Chris Hedges
Peace First
by Eric Ortiz
Maj. Danny Sjursen, left, with his Afghan National Army partner, far right. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
Corruption was, and is, rampant in Afghanistan. I was just a lowly captain, watching Pashmul’s local drug lords skim off the top of our development money—we euphemistically called it “cash for work”—all the while selling heroin to our Taliban enemies. All that was small potatoes. My mentor, then a senior colonel serving in the Afghan capital of Kabul, told me how his partnered Afghan officers would show him pictures of their opulent mansions in Mumbai, India, built, no doubt, on something other than a modest bureaucrat’s salary. Many Afghan government officials own such villas—called “poppy palaces“—and pay for them through drug dealing and money laundering. Counterinsurgency, so I’ve read, requires a legitimate, local partner to succeed. Tell me, can we honestly call the mess in Kabul “legitimate”?
* * *
Drugs, torture, corruption. All of that we could just about handle. Almost. It’s the child rape that gets to you. We weren’t in Pashmul too long before my lieutenants and I got invited by a local village elder to an upcoming bacha bazi (boy play) party in town. We politely declined after my interpreter explained the basics to me: See, a bunch of old, powerful dudes would sit around and smoke hash while prepubescent boys danced around in women’s clothes. Then the elders would pick whoever they fancied, and, well, you can guess what came next.
This sickening tradition was all too common in rural Afghanistan, and it still is. One American special forces captain even got disciplined by his superiors for physically stopping a boy’s rape. Sounds crazy, right? Well, on my outpost, one of our young interpreters, Shafa, barely escaped a gang rape attempt by our own ANA just a couple of tents over from where we lifted weights.
Another morning, I found out—and was pretty damn upset—that my “partner” ANA captain had kept a prisoner zip-tied to his bedpost overnight before t***sferring him to the battalion holding facility. I try not to imagine how that evening went. This stuff happened, and happens, all the time. Recently, there have even been reports that U.S. military commanders directed soldiers to ignore such “traditional” Afghan “culture.” I never experienced that myself, but given our priorities, such directives would hardly surprise me.
Maj. Danny Sjursen eating with Afghan security forces. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
Look, Afghanistan is a mess, as bad as it’s ever been. Seven years ago, 100,000 American troops (of which I was but a small part) couldn’t change the “Afghan way,” or win an unwinnable war. What’s certain is there is nothing left to gain in that strategic sinkhole. Every minute of further occupation only dirties American hands further. Though it imagines itself as, and sometimes is, benevolent, the U.S. military is one thing for sure: complicit.
* * *
It’s long past time for the U.S. to take the world as it is, not as we wish it to be. Afghans are going to be Afghans, at least until they, not the U.S. military, decide they should act otherwise. As long as Uncle Sam is footing the bill, which ranges up to 90 percent of total Afghan GDP, the marginally legitimate, highly corrupt and morally dubious Afghan central government will stagger along—not quite losing, but nowhere near to winning—indefinitely. The U.S., which built and for decades propped up this Afghan state, must own its creation, in some ways a veritable Frankenstein’s monster, for years to come.
Shafi Khan, left, the poppy field owner and police chief, with Maj. Danny Sjursen, far right. (Photo credit, Maj. Danny Sjursen)
I’m told veterans ought to be proud of their service. I even used to believe that. In Afghanistan I saw little worthy of p***e. That war, for me and for our republic, remains nothing but one immense moral injury. One, I fear, that we’ll live with for a long, long time.
The views expressed in this article are those of the author, expressed in an unofficial capacity, and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense or the U.S. government.
http://www.t***hdig.com
As a Veteran and US Navy Nurse from the Vietnam War Era, my heart is hurting for our poor troops, for all the pain and suffering that they all have to go through in this "Pits of Hell War" in Afghanistan. We need to end this 16 year bloodshed of our beloved Military. It's time for Afghanistan to clean up their own mess, and let us find peace for our Troops and let them, put this Insane and Evil Hell behind us, forever.. What do y'all think of this Evil War, in the Pits of Hell(Afghanistan)?Let them deal with the Taliban and clean up their own mess.WE NEED PEACE!!!!!.
Feb 17, 2018 15:49:09 #
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NumbersUSA
Feb. 17th, 2018
You Did It! All Senate Amnesty Proposals Fail Today.
Author Photo
This Week's Threat Has Passed
Dear NumbersUSA activists,
Thank you! Your overwhelming response to our alerts all week has paid off as the Senate has just now failed to pass any of the amnesty proposals considered today. (Unfortunately, it also failed to pass an amendment to restrict sanctuary cities).
Chris will be coming to you later today or tomorrow with more details and information on what to expect next, but I wanted to let you know right away that the threat this week has passed.
NumbersUSA HAS endorsed Chairman Goodlatte's H.R. 4760 because it includes the required provisions to prevent the next DACA wave: an immediate end to chain migration, an end to the visa lottery, and mandatory E-Verify. You can read Roy's op-ed in The Hill explaining our support. But NONE of the DACA proposals considered today included all three of those provisions and one even included amnesty for virtually every i*****l a***n currently in the country and some who haven't arrived yet.
We just issued the following statement to the media:
NumbersUSA and its 9 million activists are pleased that the Senate rejected all three amnesty proposals that came to the floor today for a v**e. Every proposal under consideration put the interests of i*****l a***ns and foreign citizens ahead of the interests of American workers, American communities, and national security. Americans can not afford for Congress to grant amnesty without immediately ending Chain Migration and the Visa Lottery and mandating E-Verify.
It's been a wild and crazy week on the Hill with various proposals being floated and some being changed just prior to introduction. We're not even sure all Senators fully understood what they were v****g on today (at least we are giving a few of them the benefit of the doubt!) Here's a quick rundown:
WHAT HAPPENED?
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell scheduled four immigration v**es for today. The first was the amendment offered by Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Chris Coons (D-Del.) followed by Sen. Pat Toomey's (R-Pa.) sanctuary cities amendment, the awful Schumer/Collins/Rounds/King amendment, and finally, the Grassley/Cornyn amendment that reflected the White House proposal. Remember, Cloture was invoked on all the v**es today so 60 YES v**es were required to pass anything. V**e tallies are listed as YES-NO below
McCain/Coons -- The McCain/Coons amendment would have granted amnesty to 3.2 million i*****l a***ns and required a government study on the effectiveness of building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. NumbersUSA opposed this amendment, and the White House has already issued a veto threat. The amendment failed by a v**e of 52-47.
Toomey amendment -- The amendment offered by Sen. Toomey would have: 1) blocked certain Federal grants to sanctuary jurisdictions and reallocate those funds to jurisdictions that uphold Federal law, 2) protected local police from lawsuits for honoring ICE detainer requests, and 3) explicitly allowed localities to protect from referral to ICE victims of or witnesses to a crime. NumbersUSA supported this amendment. The amendment failed by a v**e of 54-45.
Schumer/Collins/Rounds/King amendment -- The amendment offered by Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Mike Rounds (R-S.D.), and Angus King (I-Maine) had the support of a handful of Republican Senators and all 49 Democratic Senators. It was expected to receive 65 v**es when it reached the floor.
The Schumer/Collins/Rounds/King amendment would have granted amnesty to all DACA-eligible i*****l a***ns and gutted interior enforcement, protecting most i*****l a***ns currently here, or who could get here by June 30, 2018, from removal. The Department of Homeland Security estimates that it would have granted amnesty to more than 10 million i*****l a***ns. NumbersUSA opposed this amendment. The amendment failed by a v**e of 54-45.
Grassley/Cornyn amendment -- The amendment offered by Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and John Cornyn (R-Texas) reflected the White House proposal. It would have expanded DACA to grant an immediate amnesty to approximately 1.8 million i*****l a***ns. It called for a $25 billion trust fund to build the border wall and improve overall border security. It would have eliminated the Visa Lottery and halted new applications for Chain Migration, but usde those supposedly eliminated visas to bring in the backlog of more than 4 million foreigners, which could take 15-20 years. NumbersUSA opposed this amendment. Pres. Trump has endorsed this amendment. The amendment failed by a v**e of 39-60.
WHAT'S NEXT?
The House and Senate are on recess next week. In the meantime, stay tuned to your alerts and newsletters as we will be coming to you with more details about what to expect next. You can also expect to see your Senators' v**es reflected on their gradecards later tonight.
The opportunity to reduce overall immigration numbers is still before us, and we will continue to push toward an immigration policy that protects American workers. Together, we can be successful.
THANK YOU,
New Actions http://numbersusa.com
ANNE
YAY!!!! The Senate Amnesty Proposals fell on it's face, now lets see how far this goes, for the future of America and it's Citizen's, and keeping our Borders safe from Future I******s invading our Country and taking away America's Job's from us. What do y'all think? Is this good or bad?
Feb. 17th, 2018
You Did It! All Senate Amnesty Proposals Fail Today.
Author Photo
This Week's Threat Has Passed
Dear NumbersUSA activists,
Thank you! Your overwhelming response to our alerts all week has paid off as the Senate has just now failed to pass any of the amnesty proposals considered today. (Unfortunately, it also failed to pass an amendment to restrict sanctuary cities).
Chris will be coming to you later today or tomorrow with more details and information on what to expect next, but I wanted to let you know right away that the threat this week has passed.
NumbersUSA HAS endorsed Chairman Goodlatte's H.R. 4760 because it includes the required provisions to prevent the next DACA wave: an immediate end to chain migration, an end to the visa lottery, and mandatory E-Verify. You can read Roy's op-ed in The Hill explaining our support. But NONE of the DACA proposals considered today included all three of those provisions and one even included amnesty for virtually every i*****l a***n currently in the country and some who haven't arrived yet.
We just issued the following statement to the media:
NumbersUSA and its 9 million activists are pleased that the Senate rejected all three amnesty proposals that came to the floor today for a v**e. Every proposal under consideration put the interests of i*****l a***ns and foreign citizens ahead of the interests of American workers, American communities, and national security. Americans can not afford for Congress to grant amnesty without immediately ending Chain Migration and the Visa Lottery and mandating E-Verify.
It's been a wild and crazy week on the Hill with various proposals being floated and some being changed just prior to introduction. We're not even sure all Senators fully understood what they were v****g on today (at least we are giving a few of them the benefit of the doubt!) Here's a quick rundown:
WHAT HAPPENED?
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell scheduled four immigration v**es for today. The first was the amendment offered by Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Chris Coons (D-Del.) followed by Sen. Pat Toomey's (R-Pa.) sanctuary cities amendment, the awful Schumer/Collins/Rounds/King amendment, and finally, the Grassley/Cornyn amendment that reflected the White House proposal. Remember, Cloture was invoked on all the v**es today so 60 YES v**es were required to pass anything. V**e tallies are listed as YES-NO below
McCain/Coons -- The McCain/Coons amendment would have granted amnesty to 3.2 million i*****l a***ns and required a government study on the effectiveness of building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. NumbersUSA opposed this amendment, and the White House has already issued a veto threat. The amendment failed by a v**e of 52-47.
Toomey amendment -- The amendment offered by Sen. Toomey would have: 1) blocked certain Federal grants to sanctuary jurisdictions and reallocate those funds to jurisdictions that uphold Federal law, 2) protected local police from lawsuits for honoring ICE detainer requests, and 3) explicitly allowed localities to protect from referral to ICE victims of or witnesses to a crime. NumbersUSA supported this amendment. The amendment failed by a v**e of 54-45.
Schumer/Collins/Rounds/King amendment -- The amendment offered by Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Mike Rounds (R-S.D.), and Angus King (I-Maine) had the support of a handful of Republican Senators and all 49 Democratic Senators. It was expected to receive 65 v**es when it reached the floor.
The Schumer/Collins/Rounds/King amendment would have granted amnesty to all DACA-eligible i*****l a***ns and gutted interior enforcement, protecting most i*****l a***ns currently here, or who could get here by June 30, 2018, from removal. The Department of Homeland Security estimates that it would have granted amnesty to more than 10 million i*****l a***ns. NumbersUSA opposed this amendment. The amendment failed by a v**e of 54-45.
Grassley/Cornyn amendment -- The amendment offered by Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and John Cornyn (R-Texas) reflected the White House proposal. It would have expanded DACA to grant an immediate amnesty to approximately 1.8 million i*****l a***ns. It called for a $25 billion trust fund to build the border wall and improve overall border security. It would have eliminated the Visa Lottery and halted new applications for Chain Migration, but usde those supposedly eliminated visas to bring in the backlog of more than 4 million foreigners, which could take 15-20 years. NumbersUSA opposed this amendment. Pres. Trump has endorsed this amendment. The amendment failed by a v**e of 39-60.
WHAT'S NEXT?
The House and Senate are on recess next week. In the meantime, stay tuned to your alerts and newsletters as we will be coming to you with more details about what to expect next. You can also expect to see your Senators' v**es reflected on their gradecards later tonight.
The opportunity to reduce overall immigration numbers is still before us, and we will continue to push toward an immigration policy that protects American workers. Together, we can be successful.
THANK YOU,
New Actions http://numbersusa.com
ANNE
YAY!!!! The Senate Amnesty Proposals fell on it's face, now lets see how far this goes, for the future of America and it's Citizen's, and keeping our Borders safe from Future I******s invading our Country and taking away America's Job's from us. What do y'all think? Is this good or bad?Feb 10, 2018 18:29:58 #
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rumitoid wrote:
What is wrong with i*****l i*******ts? I do not get it. It proves America is already great for them to come here.
I will tell you what's wrong with them!!!! they are in violation of our Homeland Security Rules!!!!. Let an American try sneaking across into another Countries Land, and it would be instant Deportation, for us. They want us to follow their Laws!1 but to blazes with them following our laws!!!! 2 Wrongs don't make a right.Feb 10, 2018 18:09:42 #
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The Cost of I*****l I*********n
by Ruthie Blum
February 10, 2018 at 5:30 am
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11829/illegal-immigration-cost
"At the federal, state, and local levels, taxpayers shell out approximately $134.9 billion to cover the costs incurred by the presence of more than 12.5 million i*****l a***ns, and about 4.2 million citizen children of i*****l a***ns." — Matt O'Brien and Spencer Raley.
It is also rather more than the single payment of $25 billion that it will cost to build a wall -- five and a half times more, and every year.
"Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes..." — John R. Lott.
In 2015, included in the DEA's drug-threat assessment was the fact that drug overdoses k**led more people in the United States than car accidents or guns. Many of these drugs [were] smuggled in large volumes by drug cartels."
In his State of the Union address on January 30, US President Donald J. Trump referred to the brutal murder of two 16-year-old girls from Long Island in December 2016 by members of the "savage MS-13 gang," responsible for a spate of other gruesome k*****gs in the area, as well.
Many of these gang members, he explained, had entered the United States illegally. "For decades, open borders have allowed drugs and gangs to pour into our most vulnerable communities," he said.
Calling on Congress "to finally close the deadly loopholes that have allowed... criminal gangs to break into our country," he listed the four pillars of his immigration-reform proposal:
A path to citizenship for 1.8 million i*****l i*******ts who were brought to America by their parents.
The construction of a "great wall on the southern border" and enforcement by agents patrolling and securing the border.
Ending the visa lottery, "a program that randomly plans out green cards without regard for sk**l, merit, for the safety of American people."
Ending the "current, broken system" of chain migration of distant relatives, and limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children.
Although he did not specify this in his speech, Trump reportedly is seeking $25 billion from Congress to fund the wall. Opponents of the wall have been arguing that i*****l i*******ts do not commit crimes at a higher rate than legal immigrants or native-born Americans; that i*****l i*********n has been a boon to the economy, rather than a drain on it; and that the cost both of deportation and a wall far exceeds the benefits of both. These claims are repeatedly voiced by the Trump administration's detractors, as part of their campaign to accuse the president of r****m; but what are the facts?
To set the record straight, let us take a look at a number of those that have been obscured or ignored by the media.
As far as the cost of the wall is concerned, a study released in September 2017 by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) reveals that, "At the federal, state, and local levels, taxpayers shell out approximately $134.9 billion to cover the costs incurred by the presence of more than 12.5 million i*****l a***ns, and about 4.2 million citizen children of i*****l a***ns." This, the report says, is a nearly $3 billion increase in the cost since 2013. It is also rather more than the single payment of $25 billion that it will cost to build a wall – five and a half times more, and every year.
Pictured: The US-Mexico border fence near San Diego, California. (Image source: US Customs and Border Protection)
The same goes for the cost of deporting i*****l i*******ts. According to Steven A. Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies,
"...The average cost of a deportation is much smaller than the net fiscal drain created by the average i*****l i*******t," in part due to the fact that "i*****l i*******ts overwhelmingly have modest levels of education — most have not completed high school or have only a high school education...creating more in costs for government than they pay in taxes."
The question of the rates of criminality among i*****l a***ns vs. those of legal immigrants and American-born citizens has been examined by John R. Lott, Jr., president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, using Arizona's prison population as a microcosm for study. According to Lott, the ability to measure the crime-rate among i*****l i*******ts in the U.S. has been difficult, due to many factors, including the lack of a national data base and "primitive" methodology – such as "simple, cross-sectional analysis to see whether areas with higher immigrant populations have higher crime rates," and "a purely time series approach... look at the United States as a whole and note that crime has decreased since 1990 as immigration has increased." The advantage of the Arizona Department of Corrections study, Lott says, is that
"over our 32.5-year period, we know each prisoner who entered the prison system, their criminal convictions history, and whether he is a documented or undocumented immigrant. The only mystery is why this type of data has not been utilized until now."
Peter Kirsanow wryly solved the mystery in National Review, writing:
"Unfortunately, almost every public official not named Jeff Sessions guards against disclosure of illegal-immigrant crime data more tenaciously than disclosure of nuclear launch codes."
According to Lott, whose research spans 1985-2017:
"Arizona's prison population data allow us to compare undocumented immigrants' share of the prison population with their estimated share of the state population...For the first time, we break down the data to examine differences between US citizens, undocumented immigrants, and legal permanent residents. One advantage of using convictions rather than just reported crimes is that convictions depend on a 'beyond a reasonable doubt' standard of evidence and thus are much less likely to count innocent people."
The findings are unequivocal, as the following summary illustrates:
"Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5% longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens...There are dramatic differences between in the criminal histories of convicts who are U.S. citizens and undocumented immigrants...
"[Y]oung undocumented immigrants commit crime at twice the rate of young U.S. citizens. These undocumented immigrants also tend to commit more serious crimes. If undocumented immigrants committed crime nationally as they do in Arizona, in 2016 they would have been responsible for over 1,000 more murders, 5,200 rapes, 8,900 robberies, 25,300 aggravated assaults, and 26,900 burglaries."
These numbers do not even include the cost to American taxpayers of the toll taken on America's children by illegally imported drugs. Although available information on this is at best spotty, the key finding from the DEA's 2017 National Drug Threat Assessment is that the "most commonly reported greatest drug threat was heroin, at 44.1 percent of law enforcement responses... This was followed by 29.8 percent of respondents indicating methamphetamine was their greatest drug threat, 9.3 percent reporting controlled prescription drugs..."
This tells us something about the extent of the problem, but not enough. The 2010 drug-threat assessment, released a year after the previous administration took office, revealed that,
"From January through November 2009, U.S. seizures of illegal drugs in t***sit exceeded 1,626 metric tons, indicating that DTOs succeed in moving several thousand tons of cocaine, methamphetamine, marijuana, heroin, and MDMA into the United States annually. There are unique smuggling and t***sportation methods..."
In 2015, included in the DEA's drug-threat assessment was the fact that drug overdoses k**led more people in the United States than car accidents or guns. As was noted by the BBC at the time, "Many of these drugs are smuggled in large volumes by drug cartels..."
The late Democrat Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously said, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." His successors in Congress would do well to remember this while debating the issue of i*****l i*********n. They certainly need to keep it in mind when v****g on the administration's proposed plan.
Ruthie Blum is the author of "To Hell in a Handbasket: Carter, Obama, and the 'Arab Spring.'"
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.com
These I******s are making our Country go broke!!!!, because 95% of America's money goes into their pockets, and we end up footing the Bill, and our money goes FUNNY!!!!! i don't mean Joking either!! we end up footing the Bill. Well Folks, why should we have to suffer while these I******s live High off the Hog and our Expenses. I think this Rotten!!! What do y'all believe?
by Ruthie Blum
February 10, 2018 at 5:30 am
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11829/illegal-immigration-cost
"At the federal, state, and local levels, taxpayers shell out approximately $134.9 billion to cover the costs incurred by the presence of more than 12.5 million i*****l a***ns, and about 4.2 million citizen children of i*****l a***ns." — Matt O'Brien and Spencer Raley.
It is also rather more than the single payment of $25 billion that it will cost to build a wall -- five and a half times more, and every year.
"Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes..." — John R. Lott.
In 2015, included in the DEA's drug-threat assessment was the fact that drug overdoses k**led more people in the United States than car accidents or guns. Many of these drugs [were] smuggled in large volumes by drug cartels."
In his State of the Union address on January 30, US President Donald J. Trump referred to the brutal murder of two 16-year-old girls from Long Island in December 2016 by members of the "savage MS-13 gang," responsible for a spate of other gruesome k*****gs in the area, as well.
Many of these gang members, he explained, had entered the United States illegally. "For decades, open borders have allowed drugs and gangs to pour into our most vulnerable communities," he said.
Calling on Congress "to finally close the deadly loopholes that have allowed... criminal gangs to break into our country," he listed the four pillars of his immigration-reform proposal:
A path to citizenship for 1.8 million i*****l i*******ts who were brought to America by their parents.
The construction of a "great wall on the southern border" and enforcement by agents patrolling and securing the border.
Ending the visa lottery, "a program that randomly plans out green cards without regard for sk**l, merit, for the safety of American people."
Ending the "current, broken system" of chain migration of distant relatives, and limiting sponsorships to spouses and minor children.
Although he did not specify this in his speech, Trump reportedly is seeking $25 billion from Congress to fund the wall. Opponents of the wall have been arguing that i*****l i*******ts do not commit crimes at a higher rate than legal immigrants or native-born Americans; that i*****l i*********n has been a boon to the economy, rather than a drain on it; and that the cost both of deportation and a wall far exceeds the benefits of both. These claims are repeatedly voiced by the Trump administration's detractors, as part of their campaign to accuse the president of r****m; but what are the facts?
To set the record straight, let us take a look at a number of those that have been obscured or ignored by the media.
As far as the cost of the wall is concerned, a study released in September 2017 by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) reveals that, "At the federal, state, and local levels, taxpayers shell out approximately $134.9 billion to cover the costs incurred by the presence of more than 12.5 million i*****l a***ns, and about 4.2 million citizen children of i*****l a***ns." This, the report says, is a nearly $3 billion increase in the cost since 2013. It is also rather more than the single payment of $25 billion that it will cost to build a wall – five and a half times more, and every year.
Pictured: The US-Mexico border fence near San Diego, California. (Image source: US Customs and Border Protection)
The same goes for the cost of deporting i*****l i*******ts. According to Steven A. Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies,
"...The average cost of a deportation is much smaller than the net fiscal drain created by the average i*****l i*******t," in part due to the fact that "i*****l i*******ts overwhelmingly have modest levels of education — most have not completed high school or have only a high school education...creating more in costs for government than they pay in taxes."
The question of the rates of criminality among i*****l a***ns vs. those of legal immigrants and American-born citizens has been examined by John R. Lott, Jr., president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, using Arizona's prison population as a microcosm for study. According to Lott, the ability to measure the crime-rate among i*****l i*******ts in the U.S. has been difficult, due to many factors, including the lack of a national data base and "primitive" methodology – such as "simple, cross-sectional analysis to see whether areas with higher immigrant populations have higher crime rates," and "a purely time series approach... look at the United States as a whole and note that crime has decreased since 1990 as immigration has increased." The advantage of the Arizona Department of Corrections study, Lott says, is that
"over our 32.5-year period, we know each prisoner who entered the prison system, their criminal convictions history, and whether he is a documented or undocumented immigrant. The only mystery is why this type of data has not been utilized until now."
Peter Kirsanow wryly solved the mystery in National Review, writing:
"Unfortunately, almost every public official not named Jeff Sessions guards against disclosure of illegal-immigrant crime data more tenaciously than disclosure of nuclear launch codes."
According to Lott, whose research spans 1985-2017:
"Arizona's prison population data allow us to compare undocumented immigrants' share of the prison population with their estimated share of the state population...For the first time, we break down the data to examine differences between US citizens, undocumented immigrants, and legal permanent residents. One advantage of using convictions rather than just reported crimes is that convictions depend on a 'beyond a reasonable doubt' standard of evidence and thus are much less likely to count innocent people."
The findings are unequivocal, as the following summary illustrates:
"Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5% longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens...There are dramatic differences between in the criminal histories of convicts who are U.S. citizens and undocumented immigrants...
"[Y]oung undocumented immigrants commit crime at twice the rate of young U.S. citizens. These undocumented immigrants also tend to commit more serious crimes. If undocumented immigrants committed crime nationally as they do in Arizona, in 2016 they would have been responsible for over 1,000 more murders, 5,200 rapes, 8,900 robberies, 25,300 aggravated assaults, and 26,900 burglaries."
These numbers do not even include the cost to American taxpayers of the toll taken on America's children by illegally imported drugs. Although available information on this is at best spotty, the key finding from the DEA's 2017 National Drug Threat Assessment is that the "most commonly reported greatest drug threat was heroin, at 44.1 percent of law enforcement responses... This was followed by 29.8 percent of respondents indicating methamphetamine was their greatest drug threat, 9.3 percent reporting controlled prescription drugs..."
This tells us something about the extent of the problem, but not enough. The 2010 drug-threat assessment, released a year after the previous administration took office, revealed that,
"From January through November 2009, U.S. seizures of illegal drugs in t***sit exceeded 1,626 metric tons, indicating that DTOs succeed in moving several thousand tons of cocaine, methamphetamine, marijuana, heroin, and MDMA into the United States annually. There are unique smuggling and t***sportation methods..."
In 2015, included in the DEA's drug-threat assessment was the fact that drug overdoses k**led more people in the United States than car accidents or guns. As was noted by the BBC at the time, "Many of these drugs are smuggled in large volumes by drug cartels..."
The late Democrat Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously said, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." His successors in Congress would do well to remember this while debating the issue of i*****l i*********n. They certainly need to keep it in mind when v****g on the administration's proposed plan.
Ruthie Blum is the author of "To Hell in a Handbasket: Carter, Obama, and the 'Arab Spring.'"
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.com
These I******s are making our Country go broke!!!!, because 95% of America's money goes into their pockets, and we end up footing the Bill, and our money goes FUNNY!!!!! i don't mean Joking either!! we end up footing the Bill. Well Folks, why should we have to suffer while these I******s live High off the Hog and our Expenses. I think this Rotten!!! What do y'all believe?Feb 10, 2018 17:55:12 #
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FISA Memo: Who controls our government?
If the allegations are true, then the country could be facing one of the worst scandal in all of its history.
February 10, 2018 Editor Headlines, US Politics 0
Capitol
Devin Foley
If you’ve been following the developments associated with the Steele Dossier or the allegations that President Trump colluded with the Russians to disrupt and win the 2016 e******n, then you will know that February 2, 2018 could go down as a pivotal moment in the history of the United States.
According to “The Memo” released on that date, “the FBI and DOJ knowingly used Democratically-funded opposition research to obtain warrants to spy on the Trump Campaign and failed to disclose this fact to the FISA court.”
In other words, if The Memo is correct, then high levels of the U.S. Government partnered with members of both the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to spy on a p**********l candidate with the goal of defeating him. Let that sink in.
Worse, if The Memo is true, then the highest levels of our government have been utterly corrupted and weaponized to serve nefarious, partisan purposes. The implications of which are quite grave.
In this moment of disbelief, I am reminded of the warning given to Americans in 1974 by Victor Marchetti and John D. Marks when they published The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence, the first book to ever be censored by the federal government. Here’s what they had to say:
There exists in our nation today a powerful and dangerous secret cult — the cult of intelligence.
Its holy men are the clandestine professionals of the Central Intelligence Agency. Its patrons and protectors are the highest officials of the federal government. Its membership, extending far beyond governmental circles, reaches into the power centers of industry, commerce, finance, and labor. Its friends are many in the areas of important public influence — the academic world and the communications media. The cult of intelligence is a secret fraternity of the American political aristocracy.
…
The CIA is both the center and the primary instrument of the cult of intelligence. It engages in espionage and counterespionage, in propaganda and disinformation (the deliberate circulation of false information), in psychological warfare and paramilitary activities. It penetrates and manipulates private institutions and creates its own organizations … when necessary. It recruits agents and mercenaries; it bribes and blackmails foreign officials to carry out its most unsavory tasks. It does wh**ever is required to achieve its goals, without any consideration of the ethics involved or the moral consequences of its actions…
Romanticized by myths, the operations of the CIA are also beclouded by false images and shielded by official deceptions. Its practices are hidden behind arcane and antiquated legalisms which prevent the public and even Congress from knowing what the mysterious agency is doing — or why. This the cult of intelligence justifies with dramatic assertions that the CIA’s purpose is to preserve the ‘national security,’ that its actions are in response to the needs of the nation’s defense. No one … need know more than that.
…Its adherents believe that only they have the right and the obligation to decide what is necessary to satisfy the national needs … In their minds, those who belong to the cult of intelligence have been ordained and their service is immune from public scrutiny.
Please consider rereading that passage and at each point the CIA is mentioned, substitute “the Deep State”. With that alteration and a second read, it becomes clear what We the People are up against and why it is so hard to effect change.
If our government colluded with Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee in an effort both to destroy Donald Trump’s candidacy and ensure a victory by Hillary Clinton, we must inquire about other e******ns and government officials. Was this the first time? If not, for how long have similar things been taking place? Furthermore, who else has been targeted, spied upon, and either defeated or manipulated by the Deep State? The mind boggles at the possibilities for abuse and corruption.
And if one is honest and The Memo is true, then ultimately the government does not belong to We the People and the legitimacy of much of our government and its highest officers, elected or not, is called into question. Indeed, we are likely staring down one of the greatest crises in American history.
The question is, what happens next?
http://www.thelead.com
The Big Wigs!!!! and the Rich!!!! that's who controls our Government!!!! and we get thrown to the Gators, to suffer. Who do y'all think runs this Ship(Government)?
If the allegations are true, then the country could be facing one of the worst scandal in all of its history.
February 10, 2018 Editor Headlines, US Politics 0
Capitol
Devin Foley
If you’ve been following the developments associated with the Steele Dossier or the allegations that President Trump colluded with the Russians to disrupt and win the 2016 e******n, then you will know that February 2, 2018 could go down as a pivotal moment in the history of the United States.
According to “The Memo” released on that date, “the FBI and DOJ knowingly used Democratically-funded opposition research to obtain warrants to spy on the Trump Campaign and failed to disclose this fact to the FISA court.”
In other words, if The Memo is correct, then high levels of the U.S. Government partnered with members of both the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to spy on a p**********l candidate with the goal of defeating him. Let that sink in.
Worse, if The Memo is true, then the highest levels of our government have been utterly corrupted and weaponized to serve nefarious, partisan purposes. The implications of which are quite grave.
In this moment of disbelief, I am reminded of the warning given to Americans in 1974 by Victor Marchetti and John D. Marks when they published The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence, the first book to ever be censored by the federal government. Here’s what they had to say:
There exists in our nation today a powerful and dangerous secret cult — the cult of intelligence.
Its holy men are the clandestine professionals of the Central Intelligence Agency. Its patrons and protectors are the highest officials of the federal government. Its membership, extending far beyond governmental circles, reaches into the power centers of industry, commerce, finance, and labor. Its friends are many in the areas of important public influence — the academic world and the communications media. The cult of intelligence is a secret fraternity of the American political aristocracy.
…
The CIA is both the center and the primary instrument of the cult of intelligence. It engages in espionage and counterespionage, in propaganda and disinformation (the deliberate circulation of false information), in psychological warfare and paramilitary activities. It penetrates and manipulates private institutions and creates its own organizations … when necessary. It recruits agents and mercenaries; it bribes and blackmails foreign officials to carry out its most unsavory tasks. It does wh**ever is required to achieve its goals, without any consideration of the ethics involved or the moral consequences of its actions…
Romanticized by myths, the operations of the CIA are also beclouded by false images and shielded by official deceptions. Its practices are hidden behind arcane and antiquated legalisms which prevent the public and even Congress from knowing what the mysterious agency is doing — or why. This the cult of intelligence justifies with dramatic assertions that the CIA’s purpose is to preserve the ‘national security,’ that its actions are in response to the needs of the nation’s defense. No one … need know more than that.
…Its adherents believe that only they have the right and the obligation to decide what is necessary to satisfy the national needs … In their minds, those who belong to the cult of intelligence have been ordained and their service is immune from public scrutiny.
Please consider rereading that passage and at each point the CIA is mentioned, substitute “the Deep State”. With that alteration and a second read, it becomes clear what We the People are up against and why it is so hard to effect change.
If our government colluded with Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee in an effort both to destroy Donald Trump’s candidacy and ensure a victory by Hillary Clinton, we must inquire about other e******ns and government officials. Was this the first time? If not, for how long have similar things been taking place? Furthermore, who else has been targeted, spied upon, and either defeated or manipulated by the Deep State? The mind boggles at the possibilities for abuse and corruption.
And if one is honest and The Memo is true, then ultimately the government does not belong to We the People and the legitimacy of much of our government and its highest officers, elected or not, is called into question. Indeed, we are likely staring down one of the greatest crises in American history.
The question is, what happens next?
http://www.thelead.com
The Big Wigs!!!! and the Rich!!!! that's who controls our Government!!!! and we get thrown to the Gators, to suffer. Who do y'all think runs this Ship(Government)?Feb 10, 2018 17:45:22 #
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Trump continues to cast some immigrants as criminals
Jill Colvin, Associated Press Updated 8:25 am,Saturday, February 10, 2018
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In this Feb. 6, 2018, photo, President Donald Trump listens during a meeting with law enforcement officials on the MS-13 street gang and border security, in the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington. Trump is continuing his habit of painting immigrants as criminals, highlighting gang connections, calling family reunification a national security threat and bemoaning the death of a pro football player involved in a car accident with a man living in the country illegally. Photo: Evan Vucci, AP / Copyright 2018 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
Photo: Evan Vucci, AP
In this Feb. 6, 2018, photo, President Donald Trump listens during a meeting with law enforcement officials on the MS-13 street gang and border security, in the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington. Trump is continuing his habit of painting immigrants as criminals, highlighting gang connections, calling family reunification a national security threat and bemoaning the death of a pro football player involved in a car accident with a man living in the country illegally.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Making his case for tighter border security, President Donald Trump has repeatedly linked immigration to criminality, highlighting immigrant gang violence, calling family reunification a national security threat and bemoaning the death of a pro football player involved in a car accident with a man living in the country illegally.
Speaking to law enforcement officials at the White House on Tuesday, Trump singled out the MS-13 gang, which is believed to be behind 25 k*****gs on New York's Long Island in the past two years, and has become a prime target of the Trump administration.
"We've really never seen anything quite like this, the level of ferocity, the level of violence, and the reforms we need from Congress to defeat it," Trump told law enforcement officials and lawmakers, eventually threatening another federal government shutdown if Democrats don't agree to pass an immigration package he said would help keep gang members out.
"If we don't get rid of these loopholes where k**lers are allowed to come into our country and continue to k**l ... if we don't change it, let's have a shutdown," Trump suggested. "I'd love to see a shutdown if we don't get this stuff taken care of."
Trump's latest threat is part of a pressure campaign he has been waging to try to get Democrats to sign onto a sweeping immigration plan that they've rejected. The president wants billions for a southern border wall, major cuts to legal immigration, and more money for interior enforcement and other changes in exchange for granting a pathway to citizenship for up to 1.8 million young immigrants living in the country illegally.
Earlier Tuesday, Trump called on Democrats to "get tough" on immigration, citing the death of Indianapolis Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson, who was k**led in a suspected drunken-driving crash involving a Guatemalan citizen living illegally in the U.S.
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"So disgraceful that a person illegally in our country k**led @Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson," Trump tweeted. "This is just one of many such preventable tragedies. We must get the Dems to get tough on the Border, and with i*****l i*********n, FAST!"
Trump has also continued to criticize the nation's legal immigration system, insisting that limiting immigrants' ability to sponsor their family members to join them in the country, and ending a visa lottery aimed at promoting diversity, will make the country safer.
"In the age of terrorism, these programs present risks we can no longer afford," he said in his State of the Union speech.
It's an issue that has been near and dear to the president's heart — and his base— since the day he launched his campaign and accused Mexico of sending its rapists across the border. Since his inauguration, Trump has marshalled government resources to try to portray immigration as a threat, despite several studies that have shown immigrants are actually less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States.
Indeed, critics have repeatedly accused the administration of using faulty data and cherry-picked examples to make its case.
On Tuesday, Trump zeroed in on MS-13, or the Mara Salvatrucha, a gang established in the 1980s in Los Angeles by Central American refugees fleeing violence in their counties.
Federal prosecutors believe MS-13 now has thousands of members across the country, though statistics show they account for just a tiny fraction — less than 1 percent — of total U.S. gang membership. And while Trump administration officials have tried to portray the gang as comprised of a never-ending flow of i*****l i*******ts, some figures suggest most members are U.S. citizens.
Trump complained that thousands of gang members are arrested and deported from the U.S. only to return to the country. "Not another country in the world has the stupidity of laws that we do," he complained.
Trump has given Democrats until March 5 to agree to an immigration deal, though it's unclear exactly what will happen on that date
White House chief of staff John Kelly spent much of the day on Capitol Hill, meeting with congressional leaders about immigration. But he also drew criticism when he suggested some young immigrants were "too lazy" to sign up for the Obama-era program that offered protection from deportation and renewable work permits.
Kelly said Trump's recent offer to provide a path to citizenship for up to 1.8 million immigrants went "beyond what anyone could have imagined." A bipartisan offer by six senators that Trump rejected would have made citizenship possible for the 690,000 "Dreamers" registered under the program, known by its acronym DACA.
"There are 690,000 official DACA registrants and the president sent over what amounts to be two and a half times that number, to 1.8 million," Kelly said. "The difference between (690,000) and 1.8 million were the people that some would say were too afraid to sign up, others would say were too lazy to get off their asses, but they didn't sign up."
Immigration experts cite various reasons as to why people eligible for DACA's protections never applied, including fears that participating would expose them to immigration authorities.
___
Associated Press writer Alan Fram contributed to this report.
http://www.seattlepi.com
President Trump is right!!!!. In my opinion, if y'all can't enter this Country Legally, then y'all are criminals. Stop mooching!!!! and go by the Law!!!!. Go through the Legal Processing in the Country you came from, then you can come. What do y'all think?
Jill Colvin, Associated Press Updated 8:25 am,Saturday, February 10, 2018
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In this Feb. 6, 2018, photo, President Donald Trump listens during a meeting with law enforcement officials on the MS-13 street gang and border security, in the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington. Trump is continuing his habit of painting immigrants as criminals, highlighting gang connections, calling family reunification a national security threat and bemoaning the death of a pro football player involved in a car accident with a man living in the country illegally. Photo: Evan Vucci, AP / Copyright 2018 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
Photo: Evan Vucci, AP
In this Feb. 6, 2018, photo, President Donald Trump listens during a meeting with law enforcement officials on the MS-13 street gang and border security, in the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington. Trump is continuing his habit of painting immigrants as criminals, highlighting gang connections, calling family reunification a national security threat and bemoaning the death of a pro football player involved in a car accident with a man living in the country illegally.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Making his case for tighter border security, President Donald Trump has repeatedly linked immigration to criminality, highlighting immigrant gang violence, calling family reunification a national security threat and bemoaning the death of a pro football player involved in a car accident with a man living in the country illegally.
Speaking to law enforcement officials at the White House on Tuesday, Trump singled out the MS-13 gang, which is believed to be behind 25 k*****gs on New York's Long Island in the past two years, and has become a prime target of the Trump administration.
"We've really never seen anything quite like this, the level of ferocity, the level of violence, and the reforms we need from Congress to defeat it," Trump told law enforcement officials and lawmakers, eventually threatening another federal government shutdown if Democrats don't agree to pass an immigration package he said would help keep gang members out.
"If we don't get rid of these loopholes where k**lers are allowed to come into our country and continue to k**l ... if we don't change it, let's have a shutdown," Trump suggested. "I'd love to see a shutdown if we don't get this stuff taken care of."
Trump's latest threat is part of a pressure campaign he has been waging to try to get Democrats to sign onto a sweeping immigration plan that they've rejected. The president wants billions for a southern border wall, major cuts to legal immigration, and more money for interior enforcement and other changes in exchange for granting a pathway to citizenship for up to 1.8 million young immigrants living in the country illegally.
Earlier Tuesday, Trump called on Democrats to "get tough" on immigration, citing the death of Indianapolis Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson, who was k**led in a suspected drunken-driving crash involving a Guatemalan citizen living illegally in the U.S.
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"So disgraceful that a person illegally in our country k**led @Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson," Trump tweeted. "This is just one of many such preventable tragedies. We must get the Dems to get tough on the Border, and with i*****l i*********n, FAST!"
Trump has also continued to criticize the nation's legal immigration system, insisting that limiting immigrants' ability to sponsor their family members to join them in the country, and ending a visa lottery aimed at promoting diversity, will make the country safer.
"In the age of terrorism, these programs present risks we can no longer afford," he said in his State of the Union speech.
It's an issue that has been near and dear to the president's heart — and his base— since the day he launched his campaign and accused Mexico of sending its rapists across the border. Since his inauguration, Trump has marshalled government resources to try to portray immigration as a threat, despite several studies that have shown immigrants are actually less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States.
Indeed, critics have repeatedly accused the administration of using faulty data and cherry-picked examples to make its case.
On Tuesday, Trump zeroed in on MS-13, or the Mara Salvatrucha, a gang established in the 1980s in Los Angeles by Central American refugees fleeing violence in their counties.
Federal prosecutors believe MS-13 now has thousands of members across the country, though statistics show they account for just a tiny fraction — less than 1 percent — of total U.S. gang membership. And while Trump administration officials have tried to portray the gang as comprised of a never-ending flow of i*****l i*******ts, some figures suggest most members are U.S. citizens.
Trump complained that thousands of gang members are arrested and deported from the U.S. only to return to the country. "Not another country in the world has the stupidity of laws that we do," he complained.
Trump has given Democrats until March 5 to agree to an immigration deal, though it's unclear exactly what will happen on that date
White House chief of staff John Kelly spent much of the day on Capitol Hill, meeting with congressional leaders about immigration. But he also drew criticism when he suggested some young immigrants were "too lazy" to sign up for the Obama-era program that offered protection from deportation and renewable work permits.
Kelly said Trump's recent offer to provide a path to citizenship for up to 1.8 million immigrants went "beyond what anyone could have imagined." A bipartisan offer by six senators that Trump rejected would have made citizenship possible for the 690,000 "Dreamers" registered under the program, known by its acronym DACA.
"There are 690,000 official DACA registrants and the president sent over what amounts to be two and a half times that number, to 1.8 million," Kelly said. "The difference between (690,000) and 1.8 million were the people that some would say were too afraid to sign up, others would say were too lazy to get off their asses, but they didn't sign up."
Immigration experts cite various reasons as to why people eligible for DACA's protections never applied, including fears that participating would expose them to immigration authorities.
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Associated Press writer Alan Fram contributed to this report.
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President Trump is right!!!!. In my opinion, if y'all can't enter this Country Legally, then y'all are criminals. Stop mooching!!!! and go by the Law!!!!. Go through the Legal Processing in the Country you came from, then you can come. What do y'all think?Feb 10, 2018 17:29:36 #
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Raylan Wolfe wrote:
More nonsensical right wing propaganda posted by an old fart who suffers from dementia!
Fact: Obama deported more people than any other president! 2.5 million to be exact!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661
Fact: Obama deported more people than any other president! 2.5 million to be exact!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661
I am not a right wing!!!nor left wing. I am Non-Partisan, i don't kiss anybodies Butt. You must be brainwashed from Obama!!!Pitty You!!!!.Feb 10, 2018 17:18:55 #
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DHS record: I*****l i*******t deported 44 times in 15 years
by 1776 Coalition
February 10, 2018
ru2_020718
He is the world’s most persistent i*****l i*******t: One Mexican managed to get deported 44 times in 15 years — which means he also managed to sneak back across the border at least that many times.
The runner-up was ousted 40 times from 2001 to 2015. No. 3, 4 and 5 on the list were deported 35, 34 and 31 times, respectively, according to data provided to The Washington Times by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
While those are the most extreme cases, repeat-i*****l i*******ts were back in the news this week after police said a twice-deported man was driving drunk in Indiana on Sunday morning when he plowed into pro football player Edwin Jackson and his Uber driver, k*****g them both.
President Trump tweeted about the “disgraceful” death and called the k*****g “one of many such preventable tragedies.”
Read the full article: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/6/illegal-immigrant-deported-44-times-15-years-tops-/
http://www.1776coalition.com
44 Times? What's wrong with our Government? Sounds like they are slipping back on their Jobs. Poor Edwin Jackson!!! he did not deserve to Die!! May God be with him!!!!! and his poor loved ones. How many more people have to lose their lives, before something is done? HUH? This is totally Insane and Evil !!!! 44 Times!!!!!. What do y'all think?
by 1776 Coalition
February 10, 2018
ru2_020718
He is the world’s most persistent i*****l i*******t: One Mexican managed to get deported 44 times in 15 years — which means he also managed to sneak back across the border at least that many times.
The runner-up was ousted 40 times from 2001 to 2015. No. 3, 4 and 5 on the list were deported 35, 34 and 31 times, respectively, according to data provided to The Washington Times by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
While those are the most extreme cases, repeat-i*****l i*******ts were back in the news this week after police said a twice-deported man was driving drunk in Indiana on Sunday morning when he plowed into pro football player Edwin Jackson and his Uber driver, k*****g them both.
President Trump tweeted about the “disgraceful” death and called the k*****g “one of many such preventable tragedies.”
Read the full article: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/6/illegal-immigrant-deported-44-times-15-years-tops-/
http://www.1776coalition.com
44 Times? What's wrong with our Government? Sounds like they are slipping back on their Jobs. Poor Edwin Jackson!!! he did not deserve to Die!! May God be with him!!!!! and his poor loved ones. How many more people have to lose their lives, before something is done? HUH? This is totally Insane and Evil !!!! 44 Times!!!!!. What do y'all think?Feb 10, 2018 16:57:54 #
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2.5 Million I*****l A***ns Arrive in Obama Years
by 1776 Coalition
Feb. 10, 2018
Some 2.5 million i*****l i*******ts have flowed into the United States under President Obama, with 790,000 rushing in since 2013, according to a new analysis.
Calculations from the Center for Migration Studies and the Pew Research Center indicate 1.5 to 1.7 million aliens joined the illegal population from 2009 to 2013 — either overstaying a temporary visa or sneaking into the country, according to a Center for Immigration Studies report out Monday morning.
The immigration watchdog’s analysis of Census Bureau data also showed that an additional 790,000 i******s entered from the middle of 2013 to May of 2015, for a total of 2.5 million new i*****l i*******ts since Obama took office in January of 2009. That is a rate of 300,000 to 400,000 a year.
Read the full article: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-2.5m-illegal-immigrants-under-obama-400k-yearly/article/2568566
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/6/illegal-immigrant-deported-44-times-15-years-tops-/
http://www.1776coalition.com
What a Freak'n Mess Obama has created in this Home of ours. He favored I******s over Americans, and he is still trying to take control, to this very day,even tho he is no longer our President. President Trump needs to put an end to all of Obama's sneaky moves to keep himself in control... This angers me to no end!!!how do y'all feel? It's President's job, not Obama's.
by 1776 Coalition
Feb. 10, 2018
Some 2.5 million i*****l i*******ts have flowed into the United States under President Obama, with 790,000 rushing in since 2013, according to a new analysis.
Calculations from the Center for Migration Studies and the Pew Research Center indicate 1.5 to 1.7 million aliens joined the illegal population from 2009 to 2013 — either overstaying a temporary visa or sneaking into the country, according to a Center for Immigration Studies report out Monday morning.
The immigration watchdog’s analysis of Census Bureau data also showed that an additional 790,000 i******s entered from the middle of 2013 to May of 2015, for a total of 2.5 million new i*****l i*******ts since Obama took office in January of 2009. That is a rate of 300,000 to 400,000 a year.
Read the full article: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-2.5m-illegal-immigrants-under-obama-400k-yearly/article/2568566
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/6/illegal-immigrant-deported-44-times-15-years-tops-/
http://www.1776coalition.com
What a Freak'n Mess Obama has created in this Home of ours. He favored I******s over Americans, and he is still trying to take control, to this very day,even tho he is no longer our President. President Trump needs to put an end to all of Obama's sneaky moves to keep himself in control... This angers me to no end!!!how do y'all feel? It's President's job, not Obama's.Feb 10, 2018 16:47:40 #
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bahmer wrote:
Congress shouldn't act and then the problem will be solved. They will leave and we won't have to deal with them. Better yet we should set up an area and we can gather them and deport them ourselves to make sure they do leave unlike the hollywood elites who threatened to leave and then stayed.
You made a good point there!!!!Feb 9, 2018 18:03:49 #
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phenry wrote:
Of course One is left to wonder if there is anythi... (show quote)
Shades of Obama!!!! Pelosi is taking up where Obama left off. Harboring to I******s and POOPING ON America and it's People. This is the history of the Left-Wing!! and it will never give up, until it destroys America and it's Right to live in Peace and Safety.Feb 9, 2018 17:55:05 #
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proud republican wrote:
I was listening to Rand Paul last night and i agree with him that its time to bring our troops home from Afghanistan.!!! This is one of most expensive wars ,not to mention non-winnable military wise......We are not there to build nation and it seems its exactly what we are doing..After 16 yrs of US there its time to come home!!!Dont you guys think so??
And Let that be known!!!!. As a Veteran from the Vietnam War, and a US Navy Nurse, to have been praying Deeply and Hard, that this Hellish Battle in Afghanistan to end, has brought Tears to my Eyes i pray that it comes to an end. Please Lord!!!!end this suffering of our Troops, and bring them back home, where they will be safe from the grasps of HELL!!!!! AMEN!!!!.Feb 9, 2018 17:34:20 #
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Crazy Pelosi Launches Filibuster To Protect I******s
02/07/2018 Source: Washington Examiner by: Pete Kasperowicz
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Crazy Pelosi Launches Filibuster To Protect I******s
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., launched a filibuster of sorts in the House on Wednesday, by taking the floor to talk about the need to pass legislation to protect the Dreamers.
The House was set to start debating the Mortgage Choice Act, but Pelosi took the floor and said she wanted to talk at length about immigration.
A filibuster is an action lawmakers can take in the Senate, not in the House. However, both Pelosi and House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., are both permitted to talk at length on the floor because of their leadership status. Both of them often request one minute to speak, but go on for several minutes, a privilege afforded to them because of their status.
Pelosi warned the House shortly after 10 a.m., when she started speaking, that she was going to take advantage of her "leadership minute" to speak as long as she can.
UPDATE: As of 6:15 PM, Pelosi continues to speak. This is the longest floor speech in house history.
UPDATE: Pelosi ended her speech around 6:20 PM.
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Source: Washington Examiner
http://www.ttn45.com
Pelosi is a T*****r to her own Country and it's People, i hope she pay's a heavy Price for what she is doing!!!!. T*****R!!!!!BEYATCH!!!!!. Now how do y'all feel?
02/07/2018 Source: Washington Examiner by: Pete Kasperowicz
152 71 6 285
Crazy Pelosi Launches Filibuster To Protect I******s
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., launched a filibuster of sorts in the House on Wednesday, by taking the floor to talk about the need to pass legislation to protect the Dreamers.
The House was set to start debating the Mortgage Choice Act, but Pelosi took the floor and said she wanted to talk at length about immigration.
A filibuster is an action lawmakers can take in the Senate, not in the House. However, both Pelosi and House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., are both permitted to talk at length on the floor because of their leadership status. Both of them often request one minute to speak, but go on for several minutes, a privilege afforded to them because of their status.
Pelosi warned the House shortly after 10 a.m., when she started speaking, that she was going to take advantage of her "leadership minute" to speak as long as she can.
UPDATE: As of 6:15 PM, Pelosi continues to speak. This is the longest floor speech in house history.
UPDATE: Pelosi ended her speech around 6:20 PM.
[RELATED: The 5 Republicans Obstructing Trump]
[CLICK HERE To Follow The Trump Train On Twitter]
Source: Washington Examiner
http://www.ttn45.com
Pelosi is a T*****r to her own Country and it's People, i hope she pay's a heavy Price for what she is doing!!!!. T*****R!!!!!BEYATCH!!!!!. Now how do y'all feel?