You are right!

Unfortunately a lot of kids grow up without daddy's anymore. And sometimes mothers. We need both. Kids are resilient, but not that resilient. We have no role models anymore.

I think it is a reflection of how childish our society has become, and how, if everything isn't exactly the way WE think it should be we throw a fit or a temper tantrum. If there is brutality in the police department there are proper channels to go through to address that. And the same goes with other things. Our f**g is not responsible for any ills in our society. People live and die daily both past and future for that f**g. So it is a form of desecration. No one now days seems to understand the use of proper channels any more. They are ready to r**t every time things don't go the way THEY think they should. It is disappointing and could lead to the dissolution of our freedom and values. We think we are so smart, and yet we look at everything at surface level only and we are being manipulated by the elite who wish to create divisions in this country and ultimately destroy it.

I've had mixed emotions about this. On the one hand. I respect our right to free speech and to make choices for ourselves. On the other, in doing it this way shows some lack of respect for the f**g and the country. I would recommend people go through the proper channels to make their complaints. This is not the way to do it. Still... they do have the right....

Like I said, it goes both ways. We all have a beef to cook. Sometimes we get caught up in our own troubles and don't recognize everybody else has them too. We as a nation have become immature and don't even realize it. There are troubles on and against, both sides of the aisle.

...gives the Clinton foundation four stars. Wow, I am really, really impressed. NOT!

Kevyn, are you in anyway in touch with reality? Don't bother, you are not. You write the stupidest things on here and you never quit. You never, never, quit. Get in touch with reality.

I have to say here that women have a lot of complaints of their own. It is a two way street. As a nation we have lost our way. I think it goes both ways. It is not one sex or the other it is both. Too bad not only for our country but the world.

In another, but similar vein, we have lost touch with our own inner being. We have been lied to, and have accepted the lie. And we try to make something work that cannot possibly work because we no longer know who we are. We are deluded about our own being.

I might add too that men CANNOT be house husbands. Very few women would ever accept that. For a man, it is either, produce or get out. Women do not keep men around because they look hot in a pair of shorts.

Studies have shown, whether rightly or wrongly, that the only marriages that work are marriages where the man makes a lot more money than the woman. This may not be fair to either sex, but it is the way it is. It is in our genes and will never change, no matter how much we want it to.

Not to mention the fact that the government, and corporations knew that women would not be as aggressive in demanding higher wages. That they would be secondary wage earners, and could quit at any time, having a husband that could cover for them. The men had to fight for higher wages because they had no choice. The women were less likely. Therefore it was very beneficial to corporations to hire women.

I'm not making any arguments about the rightness or the wrongness of a woman's movement. My only statement is a simple fact. There were various government agencies as well as secret agencies that wanted a women's movement because by putting women to work the government could collect vastly more taxes than before. It is also true that it was a great boon to the bottom line of any accounting sheet of any major corporate organization.

Who do you think the hackers work for?

You might be a little more convincing if people could figure out what your point is. I have no clue what you are saying.

Except that, the capitalists were all over the place during the trouble because you can't help, or do anything, and I mean anything, without capital.

I think that sometimes people are talking about apples and describing oranges.

[quote=Nickolai][quote=steve66613]Oh for God's sake! Will you please, PLEASE, simply Google the definition of "socialism".

Please don't take offense, but, you clearly don't know what socialism is. (You've been called all kinds of names for "pushing" your skewed sense of socialism.)

I suppose you would like to appear patriotic (to the U.S.A); however, this constitution DOES NOT support any of the tenets of socialism. Thus, people, here on OPP think you're some kind of "whack job".

"Collective" plans to accomplish certain "social" tasks ARE IN NO WAY socialism. "Public services" are not socialism!

Keep this in mind: we (including you) do not ever want to live in a socialistic state. Tens of thousands patriots, over the past 100 years, have fought and died to avoid such a fate for this country. It's offensive for you to continue advocating your warped agenda.

Just sayin'........[/quot



Public services is a form of socialism it is there to serve all the people and not a favored few. Capitalism is based on the master s***e model with the CEIO as master and the employees the wage s***es. With a union to bargain collectively giving the wage s***e a more powerful negotiating position. The Master can pay only what he is willing to pay, completely disregarding the need of the wage s***e. The capitalist have successfully beaten down unions in the private sector. Only 6 workers in a hundred have union coverage today compared to 26 in 1980 and is a reflection of the decline of the middle class that was once the largest in the world built by unions[/quote]


This is an extreme oversimplification, and while in some cases it might have some t***h to it it is overall a matter of disinformation, and this sort of thing probably came from the i***ts teaching at Harvard and Yale and elsewhere.

Unions come and go, and both sides invest in extremism. in the twenties both sides were heavily influenced by mafia figures. Water seeks its own level. The economy just as everything in the universe tends to swing like a pendulum. First it goes one way and then another.

I am not a strong fan of capitalism as it involves megacorporations whose only function is a profit at the cost of all else. However, I am a strong proponent of free enterprise. It is only through the workings of free enterprise that any society can afford any socialism of any kind. Broke people who cannot feed their own children cannot give generously.

The idea that public service helps everyone or is a form of socialism is again an oversimplification. The Food Stamp program costs billions of dollars that goes into the pockets of bureaucrats when that same money, given straight from the pockets of generous people would save those billions of dollars. With the money that is saved jobs could be created. Everybody, and I mean everybody comes mainly from a position of self interest. That does not mean they cannot be giving, but in order to be giving one has to receive. Otherwise it cannot be done. We have to feed not only ourselves but our families. Then we can feed others. To say that capitalism creates greed is to put the cart before the horse. Greed creates capitalism or socialism or any other form of government. It is only when greed becomes excessive, to the point of hurting others that it can be considered bad. Otherwise we need it. There are a lot of loving people out there who give. And that a lot of times includes people who earlier in their life may have taken advantage of others to create an empire. Later in life a lot of these people give huge amounts to charities. I am not saying that makes it right. But it is what it is. To h**e a system is useless. It is the human race that creates problems, not systems, except as they are created by humans.

I agree.

Our form of government is more accurately called a Republic. The difference is that while people still elect their representatives, the representatives really make the laws. Often the people disagree, but do little or nothing about it. The danger of a true democracy is just that. Mob rule. And if we look at how uninformed the general population is, and how prone to taking the law into their own hands, one can readily see how dangerous that is. Our founding fathers formed a republic which gave us as much freedom as is realistically possible knowing full well that the general public, was, is, and always will be ill informed. Even after first creating the Republic they soon realized that the people had too much freedom, and made the government a little more centralized taking power away from the states, only as much as was needed though. The people are easily deceived. And the founding fathers were very aware of the very organizations that today people laugh at as conspiracy theory, and that those organizations would always, always, scheme to destroy any true freedom. They are doing that today. One way they do it is by funding both the Neo N**is and A****a and watch them fight, hoping to weaken and destroy the nation. This is not conspiracy theory, I am very aware of the existence of these groups. One can look into the writings of Aleister Crowley (possibly not spelled correctly) to get at least a glimpse of how secret societies work. These secret societies were behind the rise of power of Hitler in N**i Germany. They never stop. If they die they reincarnate and start the same process, as do their children for the most part.

The general public does not know this, even though Woodrow Wilson mentioned it, and it is useless, most of the time, to try to tell them. It is always emotion with the general public, and they are not aware of the consequence of their actions nor how easily they are deceived and manipulated. Therefore we have a Republic and not a true democracy. We have as much freedom as the fathers could safely give us, no more. No one on this planet is truly free.

I think you meant 'why.' If that is the case, I must admit it has been years since I read it, but I do know it is a product of, and controlled by the international elite and NWO people, and as such, a certain amount of it is propaganda. As much as it is based on proper research okay, a person can get some good things out of it. But if you really want to know psychology, listen to your friends talk. And the secret is, don't just hear what they say, but hear their reason for saying it. Then spend an hour or two in meditation daily. Intuition, if based on proper principles, is far more powerful than book learning. If psychologists know so much, why don't they just throw the books away, and quit their experiments? There is still too much to find out. People are what they are, and doing experiments on them, wittingly or unwittingly is at best questionable, and quite possibly immoral. A great way for a profession to start out.