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Jun 28, 2015 23:45:44   #
Why is it that you have to be the stick in the mud. On any subject ?
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Jun 28, 2015 23:14:44   #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
He sure is a piece of work .


I cite several Sources Jewish references in Talmud and Midrash. Actual Jewish Historical proof that Jesus Christ was a human being and lived approximately 4 BCE to 33 AD.



1. http://www.talmudblasphemy.com/talmud-and-Jesus.htm
2. http://www.doxa.ws/Jesus_pages/Talmud_JC.html
3.https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/research_sites/cjl/texts/cjrelations/resources/articles/cook_rabbis_and_Jesus.htm
4. Midrash and kabbalah references: http://www.jewsforjesus.org/publications/issues/v18-n02/01



*He was born under unusual circumstances, leading some rabbis to address him as ben Pandira and " a bastard of an adulteress."
*mother Mary was Heli's daughter.
*was crucified on the eve of Passover.
* made himself alive by the name of God.
* was a son of a woman. (cf. Galatians 4:4)
* claimed to be God, the son of God, the son of man.
* ascended and claimed that he would return again.
* was near to the kingdom and near to kingship.
* had at least five disciples.
* performed miracles, i.e. practiced "sorcery".
* name has healing power.
* teaching impressed one rabbi.



The Talmud essentially affirms the New Testament teaching on the life and person of Jesus Christ, God's unique Son and Savior of the world.

From the Jewish Encyclopedia, we learned that the Talmud said about Jesus Christ.

"... the Jewish Encyclopœdia admits that Jewish legends concerning Jesus are found in the Talmud and Midrash and in "the life of Jesus (Toledot Yeshu) It is the tendency of all these sources to belittlethe person of Jesus by ascribing to Him illegitimate birth, magic, and a shameful death."

Rev. I. B. Pranaitis revealed in The Talmud Unmasked that Jesus is also maligned as a false teacher:

"… He [Jesus] is referred to in the Talmud as Otho Isch- "That man," i.e. the one who is known to all. In the tract Abhodah Zarah, 6a, we read: "He is called a Christian who follows the false teachings of that man, who taught them to celebrate the feast on the first day of the Sabbath, that is, to worship on the first day after Sabbath…Talui, -"The one who was hanged"…" 2.

Jewish sources avoid the Greek name "Jesus", meaning 'savior', and abbreviate Jeschua to "Jeshu' which means "may his name be blotted out!"

"…name in Hebrew would be Jeschua Hanotsri--Jesus the Nazarene. He is called Notsri from the city of Nazareth… In the Talmud Christians are also called Notsrim. (Amongst other things). 'Since the word Jeschua means 'Savior,' the name Jesus rarely occurs in the Jewish books. It is almost always abbreviated to Jeschu… as if it were composed of the initial letters of the three words Immach SCHemo Vezikro-- (meaning)- -'May his name be blotted out.'" 4.

Hebrew Roots proponents claim that these teachings are a thing of the past. However, a review of various Jewish sources in use today discloses identical the same or similar teachings.

The Talmud and Cabala teachings of the Toledot Yeshu-- (or Tolodoth Ieschu or Sepher Toldoth Jehoshua) are representative of teachings regarding Christ which may be shocking to Christians.

A brief overview of these teachings cites the Talmud, (treatise Sabbath, folio 104, treatise Sanhedrim, folio 107, and Sota, folio 47) which presents this falsified account of Jesus:

"...the Toledot Yeshu relates with the most indecent details that Miriam, a hairdresser of Bethlehem,4. affianced to a young man named Jochanan, was seduced by a libertine, Joseph Panther or Pandira, and gave birth to a son whom she named Johosuah or Jeschu. According to the Talmudic authors of the Sota and the Sanhedrim, Jeschu was taken during his boyhood to Egypt, where he was initiated into the secrets doctrines of the priests, and on his return to Palestine gave himself up to the practice of magic. 5.

/b]The Toledot Yeshu, however, goes on to say that on reaching manhood, Jeschu learnt the secret of his illegitimacy, on account of which he was driven out of the Synagogue and took refuge for a time in Galilee."[/b]

"Now, there was in the Temple a stone on which was engraved the Tetragrammaton [YHWH] or Schem Hamphorasch, that is to say, the Ineffable Name of God; this stone had been found by King David when the foundations of the Temple were being prepared and was deposited by him in the Holy of Holies.

Jeschu, knowing this, came from Galilee and, penetrating into the Holy of Holies, read the Ineffable name, which he t***scribed on to a piece of whom parchment and concealed in an incision under his skin. By this means he was able to work miracles and to persuade the people that he was the son of God foretold by Isaiah.

With the aid of Judas, the Sages of the Synagogue, succeeding in capturing Jeschu, who was then lead before the Great and Little Sanhedrim, by whom he was condemned to be stoned to death and finally hanged." Such is the story of Christ according to the Jewish Kabbalists ..." 5.

This false witness to the person of Jesus in the Talmud is also confirmed by Rev. I. B. Pranaitis in his online report, The Talmud Unmasked: The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians, and other sources" 6.
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Jun 28, 2015 23:14:36   #
Marcus Johnson wrote:
He sure is a piece of work .


Marcus you would most probably renounce and deny your own mother, if she was a Christian.

There are the usual historical references: Philo and Josephus, which you clearly think they are f**e's historical figures and references to Jesus Christ and can easily be disproven.

Prove your non-historical point Marcus. Facts not Conjecture to the Jewish references of Jesus Christ in Talmud and Midrash.? ? ?
Ask your self why would the Jewish Sanhedrin record this historical record of Jesus Christ in the Talmud and Midrash.

You can't explain these historical records Marcus. A pox on your atheistic principles.

When did you become the OPP website Biblical Historian. Is it a paid position ? Your just a blowhard with a stupidly, opinion !

Nonetheless, while accepting your premises: Why is there rabbinical references of Jesus Christ trial. With Jewish Rabbi's references, that Jesus' trial had been in any way speedy or unfair: (BT. Sanhedrin 43a.)

And it was taught:

On the eve of the Passover Yeshua [the Nazarene] was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place a herald went forth and cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy.

Anyone who can say anything in his favor, let him come and plead on his behalf." And since nothing was brought forward in his favor, he was hanged on the eve of Passover." (BT. Sanhedrin 43a.)

The reason for this Sanhedrin 43a passage is obvious: The later Babylonian Rabbis were uncomfortable with the notion that a Sanhedrin was said by Christians to have acted unfairly. They were responding to the Gospel polemic by showing that fairness was always the Rabbinic practice, even in the case of Jesus.

They accepted Christian reportage of the facts as the "Gospel t***h" and then spun those supposed "facts" their way. This is a passage about later times, not anything factual about Jesus' day hundreds of years and miles away.

I cite several Sources Jewish references in Talmud and Midrash. Actual Jewish Historical proof that Jesus Christ was a human being and lived approximately 4 BCE to 33 AD.



1. http://www.talmudblasphemy.com/talmud-and-Jesus.htm
2. http://www.doxa.ws/Jesus_pages/Talmud_JC.html
3.https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/research_sites/cjl/texts/cjrelations/resources/articles/cook_rabbis_and_Jesus.htm
4. Midrash and kabbalah references: http://www.jewsforjesus.org/publications/issues/v18-n02/01
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Jun 28, 2015 20:58:00   #
6/27/15 Hillary Clinton now fleeing the public and reporters after being outed as Bride of Frankenfoods http://www.naturalnews.com/050214_Hillary_Clinton_Monsanto_biotech_industry.html

(NaturalNews) There are a number of very good reasons why Hillary Clinton should never be elected president. The Democratic front-runner for the 2016 p**********l e******n has been embroiled in so many scandals, it's not easy to know where to start.

The B******i fiasco? Emailgate? The revelations published in the recently released book titled Clinton Cash that prove just how corrupt she and hubby Bill really are?



No wonder she's dodging the press...



But there's an even bigger issue, one that may be the real reason why she hasn't been answering any questions from journalists in more than a month and is now going to great lengths to hide from reporters.

Hillary has been outed as the "Bride of Frankenfoods" -- her cozy relationship with Monsanto, a company widely regarded (and rightly so) as "the most evil corporation on the planet."

It has been revealed that Hillary Clinton has extremely close ties with Monsanto and that she supports GMO agriculture. This isn't really news, because her ties to the industry go all the way back to when she worked at the Rose Law Firm in Arkansas, which represented Monsanto and other "Big Ag" corporations.

Her alliances with Monsanto and GMOs didn't stop there, either. Monsanto and Dow Chemicals (Dow is another one of the heavy hitters in the Frankenfood industry) have each made huge contributions to the Clinton Foundation.



From The Washington Times: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/17/hillary-clinton-gmo-support-monsanto-ties-spark-ba/?page=all

Hillary Clinton Pushes GMO Agenda, Hires Monsanto Lobbyist, Takes Huge Dollars from Monsanto http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-pushes-gmo-agenda-hires-monsanto-lobbyist-takes-huge-dollars-from-monsanto/5450985 http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-vileness-of-the-clintons/5458395

Big Agriculture... has been a big donor to the Clinton Foundation, the family charity at the center of pay-to-play accusations involving foreign donors while Mrs. Clinton ran the State Department.

Monsanto gave the foundation between $501,250 and $1 million. Dow Chemical Company, which is among the top GMO players, gave between $1 million and $5 million, according to financial disclosures by the Clinton Foundation.

And that's not all -- Hillary Clinton's top campaign staffer in Iowa, Jerry Crawford, is a former Monsanto lobbyist.

Starting to get the picture?


If not, take this next fact into consideration: Only last year, Hillary Clinton http://www.naturalnews.com/047599_Hillary_Clinton_EMFs_mental_health.html http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/oct/12/hillary-clinton-ipad-babies/? made a paid speech at a San Diego biotech convention in which she advised the industry to give its products an "image makeover," as reported by The Washington Times.

One excerpt from the speech has Clinton telling the audience -- which was made up of GMO industry executives and investors -- to choose their terminology more wisely:

"Genetically modified" sounds Frankensteinish. "Drought-resistant" sounds like something you'd want. Be more careful so you don't raise that red f**g immediately.

That passage alone should be enough to convince you that Hillary Clinton not only is more than willing to kowtow to the GMO industry but is also ready to engage in wh**ever devious verbal subterfuge it takes to ram the Frankenfood agenda right down our collective throats.

It's sickening, don't you agree?

Make no mistake about it: Hillary Clinton is not the champion of the downtrodden masses, as she would like everyone to believe. She is a corporatist candidate whose mission is to further the interests of the elites, and particularly the agendas of Monsanto and others in the biotech industry.

A v**e for Hillary is a v**e for Monsanto. And now that this fact is becoming clear to those who blindly supported her (such as the liberal females who rightly are against GMOs, but who didn't know the "real" Hillary until now), they are ditching her in droves and withdrawing their support for her candidacy.

No wonder she has been avoiding reporters. And though it may benefit her at the moment to do exactly that, she can't run from the press and public scrutiny forever if she is serious about getting elected.

It will be interesting to see what happens next, now that she has been outed as the Bride of Frankenfoods. Are American v**ers really dumbed down and apathetic enough to v**e her into office anyway? I certainly hope not...
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Jun 28, 2015 20:49:37   #
6/28/15 Who is Hillary Clinton, a v**ers guide to the political left & Hillary Clinton v****g record while serving in Congress. Her full Biography http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=18

Hillary Clinton's biographical background is a true conundrum. (See: the link, http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=18 ) This is an extensive background biography of Hillary Clinton spanning over 50 years, which will either 'Please the Democratic Left," or Outrage the Republican Right."

For better or worse Hillary Clinton does have a secret war, and has admitted "there is vast write wing conspiracy theory, against Hillary and Bill Clintons during his Presidency. Hillary has attacked the News Media on many occasions and has a history of controversial muzzling incidents, of Internet Journalists, both on the left and right of political and social issues.


Who actually is Hillary Clinton ? Left or Right you should know your candidate before v****g for in the 2016 P**********l e******ns and their actual "V****g Record" while Hillary Clinton served as New York's, Democratic Senator 2001-2009 at Congress in Washington D.C.

So what did Hillary Clinton actually accomplishments serving as New York's, Democratic Senator 2001-2009 at Congress. There was nothing very notable that Hillary Clinton actually sponsored in the Senate. (See: link below.) http://www.congress.gov/member/hillary-clinton/C001041


Political Biography:
a. Was First Lady of the United States during the presidency of her husband,
Bill Clinton
b. Served as Democratic U.S. Senator representing New York State from
2001-2009
c. Was Named U.S. Secretary of State by President-elect Barack Obama in
December 2008



V****g Record: Hillary Clinton A V**ers Guide to Hillary Clinton, V****g Record a Guide to the political Left.
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/hillary_clinton.htm

During her legislative career in the U.S. Senate, Hillary Clinton v**ed on a variety of key pieces of legislation as follows:

Energy and Environmental Issues:
in favor of a 2003 bill to ban oil exploration in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge


Military, Intelligence, and National Security Issues:
• in favor of an October 2002 joint resolution to authorize the use of the U.S.
Armed Forces against Iraq
• against a 2006 proposal to create military commissions to try unlawful enemy combatants for war crimes they had committed against the U.S.
• against a 2007 amendment to reaffirm support for all members of the United States Armed Forces, to strongly condemn any attacks on General David Petraeus and military personnel, and to specifically condemn Moveon.org's advertisement deriding Petraeus
• in favor of a 2008 amendment removing telecommunications companies’ immunity from the FISA Amendments Act of 2008
• against a 2008 amendment to provide funding for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan (in the amount of $99.57 billion for fiscal year 2008 and $65.77 billion for fiscal year 2009)

Taxation and Economic Issues:
• against major tax-cut proposals in 2001 and 2003
• in favor of tax-cut proposals in 2005 and 2006


Immigration, Nationality, and English-Language Issues:
• in favor of the 2006 Immigration Reform Bill, which would have created a path to citizenship for i*****l a***ns who had resided in the U.S. for at least five years
• in favor of separate bills (both in 2006) to finance the construction of several hundred miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border, and to fund additional measures to stem the flow of i*****l i*********n
• against a 2008 bill to finance the construction of several hundred miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border, and to fund additional measures to stem the flow of i*****l i*********n
• in favor of a 2007 proposal to end the use of a point-based immigration system, (i.e., a system that seeks to ensure that people with sk**ls that society needs are given preference for entry into the United States)
• against a 2007 amendment designating English as the language of “sole legal authority” for the business of the federal government, and declaring that no person has a right to require officials of the U.S. government to use a language other than English
• against a 2008 bill urging an expansion of the zero-tolerance prosecution policy for i*****l a***ns; calling for the completion of 700 miles of pedestrian fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border; allowing for the deployment of up to 6,000 National Guard members to the U.S. southern border; and encouraging the identification and deportation of i*****l i*******ts currently in the American prison system


Campaign and E******n Issues:
• in favor of the Campaign Finance Reform Act of 2002 (McCain-Feingold Act), which put restrictions on paid advertising during the weeks just prior to political e******ns, and tightly regulated the amount of money which political parties and candidates could accept from donors
• against a 2002 proposal to allow individuals who r******r to v**e by mail to use only a signature or personal mark to verify their identity, with no requirement of supplying a photograph


A******n and the Rights of the Unborn:
• against a 2003 proposal to ban the late-term procedure commonly known as “partial-birth a******n”
• against a 2004 proposal to make it an added criminal offense for someone to injure or k**l a fetus while carrying out a crime against a pregnant woman
• against a 2006 bill making it illegal to knowingly t***sport a pregnant minor across state lines in order to obtain an a******n, as a way to escape state laws requiring parental consent.



BOOKS: For a list of recommended books about Hillary Clinton.

American Evita : Hillary Clinton's Path to Power
By Christopher Andersen

President Hillary
By David Bossie

The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy's Dossier on Hillary Clinton
By Amanda B. Carpenter

Whitewash: What the Media Won't Tell You About Hillary Clinton, but Conservatives Will
By L. Brent Bozell and Tim Graham

The Extreme Makeover of Hillary (Rodham) Clinton
By Bay Buchanan

Hillary Clinton Nude: Naked Ambition, Hillary Clinton And America's Demise
By Sheldon Filger

God and Hillary Clinton: A Spiritual Life
By Paul Kengor

The T***h About Hillary : What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Go to Become President
By Edward Klein

I've Always Been a Yankees Fan: Hillary Clinton in Her Own Words
By Thomas Kuiper

Hillary's Scheme: Inside The Next Clinton's Ruthless Agenda To Take The White House
By Carl Limbacher

Rewriting History
By Dick Morris

The Case Against Hillary Clinton
By Peggy Noonan

Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton
By Barbara Olson

The Final Days: The Last, Desperate Abuses of Power by the Clinton White House
By Barbara Olson

Hillary's Secret War: The Clinton Conspiracy to Muzzle Internet Journalists
By Richard Poe

Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House
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Jun 27, 2015 21:42:33   #
With these low 40 percent ObanaCare insurance and Healthcare enrollee numbers. Here is the implications and your personal options, in defeating ObamaCare by your self and with your family.



From Washington Post's, Bob Laszewski was named for 2013 for "one of the most accurate and public accounts" detailing the first few months of the Obamacare rollout. Bob Laszewski has been the most accurate predictor and most informative pundit, in regards to ObamaCare plans and the political implications and future rollout and or demise of ObamaCare.




ObanaCare insurance and Healthcare plans are unsustainable, and is not law of the land yet. With only 40% enrollee ObamaCare demographics, it is sinking slowly into a financial morass of unsustainability.

ObamCare Insurance and Healthcare plans need's a 85 % demographic or higher percentage to keep ObamaCare insurance and healthcare plans afloat, to pay for the 15% of Americans who can't affordable ObamaCare insurance and Healthcare costs.


Do you see the financial implosion and unsustainability of ObamaCare.


Americans don't like the ObamCare Insurance cost and Healthcare plans products, and their $$$ Cost, of the GOLD, SILVER, or BRONZE Healthcare plans. These Healthcare plans rates are going up nation wide by $400.00 or higher and the lowest deductible plan is $5000.00 for a family of four earning $60,000.dollars a year.

These families will pay the 40% excise-tax e.g., “The Cadillac Tax,” Because their current Healthcare plan is more affordable and is a better overall family Healthcare plan. So far the American public does not like the finances and Healthcare options of ObamaCare insurance plans and ObamaCare HealthCare plans.



Do you see the financial implosion and unsustainability of ObamaCare HealthCare plans. Americans can still defeat all the Washington D.C. political laws and the Supreme Court decisions by the power of their own financial pockets.



With the Supreme Court King V. Burwell (ObamaCare) decision, this is a political win for Republicans ? Why ? See the FOX News Video, for a detailed information on ObamaCare predictions and future implications.

Health Policy and Strategy Associates’ Robert Laszewski reviews the impact of the Supreme Court ruling upholding ObamaCare subsidies.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4323927789001/supreme-court-obamacare-ruling-a-political-win-for-republicans/

http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-king-v-burwell-decision.html?




The King V. Burwell (ObamaCare) Decision. First, as any of us who know the market can appreciate, the Court just saved the Republicans from themselves.

They were in no way ready to avoid the crisis that would have engulfed the individual market––half of those people on the exchange who would have lost their subsidies and the other half off-exchange that would have seen 30% to 50% rate increases –– on top of the big increases already announced –– without a quick fix.



Does this mean that Obamacare has cleared its last major hurdle ? Not a chance.



Obamacare has only enrolled about 40% of the subsidy eligible market in two years worth of open enrollments. That level of consumer support does not make Obamacare either financially sustainable or politically sustainable.

The surveys say the 40% who have enrolled like their plans. Of course they do, they are the poorest with the biggest subsidies and the lowest deductibles. The working and middle-class have most often not signed up for Obamacare because it costs too much and delivers too little.

That Obamacare is not financially sustainable is evidenced by the first wave of big 2016 rate increases by so many large market share insurers. The next wave of rate increases a year from now will also be large and will be in the middle of the 2016 e******n.

These rate increases will further undermine the political sustainability of the law that has been reflected in five years of polling. The attempt to scuttle the law through the Supreme Court was ill conceived and Republicans are very lucky it did not happen.



Now ObamaCare has to stand on its own going into the 2016 e******ns and the growing evidence is that won't be any easier.

ObanaCare is unsustainable, not law of the land, only 40% ObanaCare is unsustainable, not law of the land, only 40% demographics, ObamaCare is sinking. ObamaCare is sinking slowly. Don't give up hope and admit defeat just yet.
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Jun 27, 2015 17:25:33   #
Top 9 Quotes From Justice Scalia’s Scathing Dissent in King v. Burwell

http://dailysignal.com/2015/06/25/top-9-quotes-from-scalias-scathing-dissent-in-king-v-burwell/?

Justice Antonin Scalia is known for his sharp wit and even sharper pen. He pulled no punches in his dissent today from the Supreme Court’s decision in King v. Burwell allowing the Obama administration to allow Obamacare subsidies to flow through the federal exchange.


Here are nine highlights:


Quote:
1. “We should start calling this law SCOTUScare … This Court’s two ObamaCare decisions on the Act, will surely be remembered through the years …

And the cases will publish forever the discouraging t***h that the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others, and is prepared to do wh**ever it takes to uphold and assist its favorites.”



Quote:
2. “This case requires us to decide whether someone who buys insurance on an Exchange established by the Secretary gets tax credits.

You would think the answer would be obvious—so obvious there would hardly be a need for the Supreme Court to hear a case about it.”



Quote:
3. “Words no longer have meaning if an Exchange that is not established by a State is ‘established by the State.’”



Quote:
4. “Under all the usual rules of interpretation, in short, the Government should lose this case. But normal rules of interpretation seem always to yield to the overriding principle of the present Court: The Affordable Care Act must be saved.”



Quote:
5. “The Court interprets §36B to award tax credits on both federal and state Exchanges. It accepts that the ‘most natural sense’ of the phrase ‘Exchange established by the State’ is an Exchange established by a State.

(Understatement, thy name is an opinion on the Affordable Care Act!) Yet the opinion continues, with no semblance of shame, that ‘it is also possible that the phrase refers to all Exchanges—both State and Federal.

(Impossible possibility, thy name is an opinion on the Affordable Care Act!)’”
5. “The Court interprets §36B to award tax credits... (show quote)



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6. “Perhaps sensing the dismal failure of its efforts to show that ‘established by the State’ means ‘established by the State or the Federal Government,’ the Court tries to palm off the pertinent statutory phrase as “inartful drafting.’

This Court, however, has no free-floating power ‘to rescue Congress from its drafting errors.”



Quote:
7. “The Court’s decision reflects the philosophy that judges should endure wh**ever interpretive distortions it takes in order to correct a supposed flaw in the statutory machinery.

That philosophy ignores the American people’s decision to give Congress‘ all legislative Powers’ enumerated in the Constitution.

They made Congress, not this Court, responsible for both making laws and mending them.”



Quote:
8. “More importantly, the Court forgets that ours is a government of laws and not of men. That means we are governed by the terms of our laws, not by the unenacted will of our lawmakers.

‘If Congress enacted into law something different from what it intended, then it should amend the statute to conform to its intent.’

In the meantime, this Court ‘has no roving license … to disregard clear language simply on the view that … Congress ‘must have intended’ something broader.”



Quote:
9. “Rather than rewriting the law under the pretense of interpreting it, the Court should have left it to Congress to decide what to do about the Act’s limitation of tax credits to state Exchanges.”


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Jun 27, 2015 17:13:18   #
I missed your sarcasm ! Ooops, My bad, apologies

But wanted pointed that ObamaCare will fail, due to money shortages from congress and the failures of the state exchanges, and that people will jus not be able to afford the skyrocketing prices of health insurance and HealthCare plans.

ObamaCare succeeding wildly. OOOPS.

I was only commenting that the State healthcare exchanges are all failing, and soon the Federal exchanges will fail due to the magical money printing press will stop.
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Jun 26, 2015 21:57:45   #
Pulfnick wrote:
Obamacare was not intended to reduce the number of uninsured.

It was intended to be a f*****t takeover of 1*6th the US economy and to destroy medical care to the point full blown socialized medicine would be accepted.

Obamacare is succeeding wildly!




Pulfnick I h**e to burst your bubble, Obamacare is not succeeding wildly! Check out this headline "Why About 35 Million Americans Remain Uninsured and the uninsured rates are rising in the United States.” 5 Things About People Who Remain Uninsured Despite ObamaCare. http://blogs.wsj.com/briefly/2015/06/24/5-things-about-people-who-remain-uninsured-despit...



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But before I explain my position and argument.

I need to apologize for the length of this thread post and the blank cost figures on the remaining State-Healthcare exchanges.

I need to find those financial loss $$$ dollar figures, and I haven't the time to research this paper that I was writing
.




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Here is why ?


And the reason for the Supreme Court Case King v. Burwell.

The lingering state financial and federal subsidies are going to bankrupt the individual states with healthcare exchanges. And the Federal Debt is not sustainable.

We are currently spending taxpayer dollars at 110 % of GDP. Which meaning we are spending more taxpayer dollars, than what we are taking in taxpayer dollars. We the United States are the next Greece, to default on our loans, unless we get control of our federal spending.
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e.g., A Federal balance budget Amendment.


The Affordable Care Act was written under the assumption that most States would set up their own ACA insurance marketplaces, or exchanges.

14 States implemented their own insurance marketplaces, or exchanges and 39 states did not implement the ACA. These States citizens rely on the Federal Government HealthCare exchanges programs or Federal Medi-Care, Medic-Aid programs.

States have received nearly $5 billion in federal grants to establish the online marketplaces used by consumers to enroll in health plans under the ACA. The federal funding ended at the beginning of the year, and exchanges now are required to cover their operating costs. . . . . .

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Here are the statistics on the multiple States are losing millions of taxpayer dollars trying to implement the ACA HealthCare exchanges programs.

Of the 14 State exchanges,12 remaining States, are struggling and most of those States do not look much better.

What about the disastrous $600 million boondoggle that was Healthcare.gov. “Because the federal government is too big to fail!” Here is the list.



The only State success story:

a. Connecticut $139 million dollar loss

Two States that have shut down insurance marketplaces, or exchanges:

Quote:
a. Hawaii $205 million dollar loss. the Hawaii Health Connector released a plan to shut down the state health-care exchange after the federal government restricted grant money to the state because it was not compliant with Obamacare, despite having spent over $205 million from taxpayers.

This isn’t the first time Hawaii has failed in its efforts to implement government health care. The state attempted to provide health care for children in 2008 and had to close the program down after only seven months.

b, Oregon $303 million dollar loss. Nor is it the first state to close an exchange. Oregon shut down its exchange and merged with the federal Healthcare.gov program after having spent $303 million on a system that never enrolled a single customer.
b a. Hawaii $205 million dollar loss. the Hawaii ... (show quote)



Of the 12 remaining States: ACA insurance marketplaces, or exchanges programs.

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a. Maryland $125.5 million shortfall opted to scrap its website. $50 million to implement, Connecticut. Maryland struggled to launch an exchange and is looking to purchase but a huge price tag.

b. Vermont a $20 million shortfall $172 million dollar loss $250 million costs $2.5 billion in new state expenditures. Vermont was facing a $20 million shortfall at the end of 2014.

c. Rhode Island $99.3 million dollar loss. Rhode Island admittedly does not have the funds to pay the expected costs.

d. Kentucky $146 million loan and $65 million emergency loan. Kentucky Health Cooperative had to get a $65 million emergency loan from the federal government at the close of 2014 to stay afloat; it has now borrowed over $146 million.

e. California, $200 million near-term deficit, facing a $80 million budget deficit. “Covered California” is running an $800 million budget deficit this year, and its director has expressed concerns about its “long-term sustainability.”

f. Massachusetts $118 million dollar loss $180 grant million dollar loss and a $116 million deficit, opted to scrap its website. signed a contract with GGI worth at least $69 million and forced to extend a $1.1 million contract.

Massachusetts Takes “Worst Performing Exchange” Title From Oregon.

Massachusetts – which had a government-provided health-care system before the ACA was passed – gives a better sense of the future. Launched in 2006, by 2010 the state was facing cost increases approaching 10 percent a year.

New Hampshire $7 million dollar loss

Maine $9 million dollar loss

Minnesota

Colorado.

New York

Pennsylvania

District of Columbia
b a. Maryland $125.5 million shortfall opted to s... (show quote)



Did State public sector greed play a role ?

The States lack total of legislative oversight before, during implementation, and State Leader with IT experience may be to blame. ObamCare continues to slouch its way along the same inevitable trajectory as most top-down government monstrosities. (speaking of derailed trains)

Connector staff members have admitted privately that the generous flow of federal dollars was the primary motivation to rebuild the entire website. The federal government was requiring additional functionality of the site under the ACA, but it is unclear if the Connector could have saved taxpayers millions by simply building off the foundation they already had in place.

The Affordable Care Act was written under the assumption that most states would set up their own insurance marketplaces, or exchanges. Only 14 states have done so. With Oregon and Hawaii gone, 12 are left. And most of those do not look much better.


What are states having to do, to balance the States healthcare exchanges budget deficits ?


State government are responded by imposing price caps, costing the five largest insurance providers $116 million and throwing their ongoing financial viability into question.

Today, some State's exchanges have some of the highest insurance premiums and longest waits times, in the country and are having to scrapped their own exchange and go on the Federal exchange.

Healthcare experts and Insurance experts are warning of more “bailouts” and failed State healthcare exchanges. Because of the Obamacare regulations and mandates require state exchanges to be completely self-funded this year 2016. Tick tock, Tick tock, Tick tock, Tick tock, Tick tock.



Is there is a pattern here, and it is no coincidence. One federal ring to bind them all. Federal single payer Health Insurance. DUH ! ! !

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There are those who continue to claim that Obamacare is less successful than it could be because what we really need is a complete federal takeover of health care. This is rubbish, and the proof is everywhere.

First, the government already provides health care for large groups of people in the United States. Perhaps you’ve heard the Veterans Affairs Department?

The public’s ire was inflamed last year by the nationwide scandal of filthy conditions, dozens of deaths and over 120,000 veterans on secret waiting lists, many of whom never received any care. But the VA’s problems go back much further.

Ditto for the Indian Health Services, with its unofficial motto, “Don’t get sick after June,” the month the federal money runs out. The quality of care provided to Native Americans is as much a national disgrace as the VA.

If the federal government cannot provide adequate care for 2 million Native Americans or 7 million veterans, what makes anyone believe they can do it effectively for 330 million people ?
b There are those who continue to claim that Obam... (show quote)


“Because Sweden!” Sorry for my sarcasm here.
The entire population of Sweden is less than that of Los Angeles County.


It's “Because the feds have more money and a unlimited printing press, that magically creates money out of thin air.”

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And “more money” is what gave us the disastrous $600 million boondoggle that was Healthcare.gov. computer system.

“Because the federal government is too big to fail!” And every American taxpayer is a sucker to believe that Government is the answer to all our problems such as Health insurance, My bad, Healthcare, Lets call the kettle black. Because this is what the ACA was sold as Healthcare.


http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/05/massachusetts-to-dump-obamacare-exchange-and-start-over/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/01/29/surprise-massachusetts-is-home-to-am...

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/hawaii-greece-and-the-obamacare-train-wreck/

http://kaiserhealthnews.org/

http://www.pottsmerc.com/health/20141125/doubts-raised-about-solvency-of-obamacare-health...

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/

http://ushealthpolicygateway.com/vii-key-policy-issues-regulation-and-reform/patient-prot...

http://www.businessinsider.com/obamacare-train-wreck-implementation-affordable-care-act-e...

http://reason.com/archives/2014/02/27/obamacares-failed-state-exchanges
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Jun 26, 2015 19:34:48   #
They still are a US public official and come under Governmental rules, regulations and laws.

They are not exempt from Governmental rules, regulations and laws.

Think about it, they need federal background checks and criminal background checks ect.
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Jun 26, 2015 19:19:31   #
Oh by the way, Queen Hillary and King Bill have a court date set for January 20, 2016, in Federal Court for [RICO] Racketeering Charges, FIOA Charges.
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/150324-filed%20Clinton%20RICO%20complaint.pdf

Mer her highness may pacing a 4 x 6 caged brick wall Federal Correction facility shortly.
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Jun 26, 2015 19:16:08   #
A interesting website to follow 68 P**********l and secret edicts that are now law.

a. Secret P**********l Executive Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/index.html
b. Secret PPD P**********l Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/psd/index.html
c. Secret PSD P**********l Orders http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/direct.htm
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Jun 26, 2015 18:50:45   #
True, True True.

Why not try at least, The justice Department and the FBI won't file criminal charges or implement the existing criminal laws that are on the law book.

Oh I forgot about the Liberal Federal Court appointees. Dam this is really pass the buck in live and living color.

Nope, never gonna happen.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:42:04   #
Should we break out the Zyklon B, Gas that k**led more than 6 million Jews or use some other method of euthanasia ? for the old and elderly ?

Have you got an answer ?
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Jun 26, 2015 18:36:21   #
3 jack I realize that you have embraced ObamaCare.

The magic and the razzle-dazzle excitement but your missing the big picture. And your Bad Bob expose picture did not add anything to the post article or to the thread. You gloating Ignorant lout, bob at least has come class.



Look at the article again and stop drooling from your mouth over a stupid signature. Now stay focused liberal moron. :thumbup: :lol:



You will get old age and senility at some point in your life.
Are you willing to sacrifice your healthcare for the greater good of more or younger people and governmental bureaucrats ? And are, but a liability to the government ledger ? Think about what I just said.


As you lie dying in some rat infested hospital bed ? Someday you will die, and you can't get palliative healthcare for a simple medical procedure, in your old age and senility ? Not to say that your old and senile now.

All you can say is, those dam bureaucrats and wished you never v**ed for the AHCA act.




So the biggggg pictureeeeee is: :thumbup: :lol:



Are you willing to embrace the future government healthcare system or any other subsidy ?

Or are you going to say no to this healthcare government schemes, by unelecting the oligarchs and again embracing the principles of free market economics in medicine and in all facets of life. This is the question from the article post.



Is Obama-Care is Medicare is healthcare f*****m in America and is socialism by stealth. You don't know yet and can't answer the question ?


When will ObamaCare deems that a American elderly person is not productive, will will they pay for future medical procedure or palliative care for the dying ?

IS THIS NOT IN THE DEATH PANELS, DESCRIBED IN THE 30,000 + PAGE DIRECTIVE ?

You didn't think about that, It may come to bite you in the ass when your old and senile. Or when your mother, father, sister, brother, or Grandparent is denied medical care. What will you do then ? You don't have the answers ?


Then at what age will ObamaCare, MediCare stop pay for any treatment for a 90-year-old 85, 80, 75, 70, 65. Can you give me an t***hful answer ?


When you no longer pay taxes and are, but a liability to the government ledger, what will they deem you, your worth ? ? ? ?


Well, I hope you get the picture.

This is what ObamaCare is leading to, socialism by stealth death. :thumbup: :lol:
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