You r****t piece of garbage, this is exactly what the GOP has become but I admire you for at least showing how you feel. The rest of you i***ts on OPP hide there h**e a r****m there the real hypocrites not you.

You photo above is exactly what the liberals have been pointing out put the guns in the hands of the professionals and first responders not i***ts like you. Those guns are needed to protect the president of the US because there are 385,000,000 million guns in this country and nobody knows where they are.

I am a NRA member and a FFL dealer and a USNavy vet. I own several firearms and none are on the street or have they k**led anyone. I hunt, collect and trap shoot for recreation. Now, it seems every time there is a mass k*****g(over 4 people) the media and libs jump on the bandwagon to ban guns again. It seems to be their only solution. The gun is not the problem, the person miss using the gun is the problem. We live in a free society and it isn't always safe. We make our own decisions about how we live and suffer the results. It seems every law passed anymore reduces our freedoms and I'm a little tired of it. Closing a loophole in gun regulation reduces my freedom. A corrupt politician is more dangerous to our society than a firearm, lets have background checks for them and an IRS audit before they can take office. The firearm industry is probably the most regulated business in our country and it only affects the law abiding citizen, not the criminal and never will. Other than criticizing the NRA, what solutions do the libs have that will not impact the freedoms of current and future gun owners? It is pretty quiet out there. The media never/seldom reports the use of a gun that prevents a crime, why not? I have sold a lot of handguns to women in the past few years. They do not feel safe and can use the protection. If they are trained to use a gun safely and pass all of the Federal and state requirements, I see no reason that they should not be allowed to protect themselves. Professor Kleck wrote a book about gun carry in the US and almost every state that made it a law, the crime rate went down. It is like having another set of eyes and law officer on the street and it costs the tax payer nothing. An armed society is a polite society. Rant over.

Excellent thread.

What this nation is actually and demonstrably suffering is the Disease of the 1960s.

The 1960s saw the shift of social power from the 'makers' to the 'takers' and the backing off -abandonment of responsibility- of those with moral, traditional values. If history can be trusted, it appears the pendulum is about to start the reverse swing; the only scary part is that it just may be too late and the indigent, nasty, immoral, lawless morons are to be the winners.

Cops- visible traditional authority figures- get slaughtered first.... who's next?

(PLEASE NO INSULTS I JUST WANT YOUR OPPUNIONS AS TO WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD BE DONE FOR ONCE LETS JUST HAVE A COMMON SENSE DEBATE TO MANY PEOPLE ARE DYING)


When does all this k*****g stop. When does our legislators sit down on a bi-partisan way and just open up a discussion on gun violence or gun culture in this country. Now just yesterday cops k*****g people and now we have people slaughtering cops. The NRA has created a gun couture in this country and now it has become a war zone. Every GD time a democrat just wants to open up a discussion the NRA slams the GOP and spreads BS that the left is coming to take your guns away and infringe on your second amendment rights. Half you people on OPP haven't read the 2nd amendment you just take the NRA's interpretation. It amazes me when I read these post by many OPP bloggers on how you interpret the second amendment

It is so sad to see those two people k**led one for selling Videos and another for a broken tail light. But now we have our first responders being slaughtered in the streets. When do we do something about our guns or gun coulture in this country. Why do we allow the NRA to dictate our gun control or coulture in this country.

We post on OPP why nothing can be done and no gun law would have prevented a kid from walking into a school and k*****g 20 six year old kids. All because of talking points created by the NRA. And do nothing

I get it when you use a gun for recreation (target shooting) (Hunting) I get it I play golf for recreation. But why the hell do we allow Assault type weapons, high capacity clips to be sold over the counter like your buying a loaf of bread. For what purpose do we allow bullet proof vest. We have our polls that show 90% of American v**ers want some kind of a national gun laws but the NRA who spends millions of dollars on legislators and require them to sign a pledge to do nothing or they get no funds for there ree******n. Has anybody ever read the NRA rating system. Can you imagine a point system for legislators to do nothing about our gun coulture, do nothing and you get more points the more points you have the more money the NRA will donate to your campaign. How can we just ignore what is happening.

Does the left have the answers I don't know but why not create a bi-Partison committee to research these problems and give us the answers instead of just buying into NRA talking points and do absolutly nothing.

So to continue to send our kids to school and not know if they are safe, go to a movie and not know if you will come out, go to a night club and not know if you will be slaughtered. Stopped for a tail light and get shot. Now we have our first responders being murdered. Then allow the NRA to put together a BS story of what happened and no laws could have prevented it.

What I am trying to get across to Opp bloggers is how did we end up with a gun couture like this in this country. I know the NRA ideology is to create fear and fear sells more guns, to sell more guns you have to remove regulations on guns, create a narrative that the left is coming for your guns (sells more guns) and the right wing bloggers have bought into the fear.

Then I listen to i***ts like Trump arm yourself the Muslims are coming to get you. What happened to this country over the last 35 years. When does this foolishness stop and common sense kicks in.

Two black kids k**led and both had concealed gun permits was it an overreaction by police I don't know was it because of r****m I don't know. But why is the NRA allowed to create talking points to justify any of the k*****gs or mass k*****gs in this country when the NRA main goal is to sell more guns. All I know is there are 385,000,000 guns sold in this country we have now over 5,000,000 military style guns sold in this country. These guns are just the ones we know about. We allow bomb making on our internet for what purpose then it's called freedom of speech.

I would hope that OPP bloggers would put there ideology of fear away and post common sense solutions. I know there are many members on OPP that just read these topics. I have seen it where I get 2000 hits but no response I would hope that all members would post what they feel would be common sense solutions as to change. (PLEASE NO INSULTS WE HAVE 5 FIRST RESPONDERS DEAD AND MY HART GOES OUT TO THERE FAMILIES THIS IS A SAD DAY FOR THIS COUNTRY TO WATCH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO GET SLAUGHTERED. AND WE CANNOT ALLOW THE NRA AND THE GOP TO JUST STAND BY AND DO NOTHING) (WE DO NOT NEED ANYMORE GOP THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS WE NEED SOLUTIONS TO A GUN COULTURE IN THIS COUNTRY AND REMOVE THE NRA SOULUTION OF DOING NOTHING)!

Simple question. Why are people who are in favor of a free market against free trade? In listening to Trump yesterday it sounded as if he wanted to do away with all our trade agreements. How is it a people who claim to be in favor of Capitalism so against a principle component of it. In fact, without free-trade I don't see how we can be considered a Capitalistic country.

You guys were against our high paying union jobs weren't you? Well through free-trade we've been able to destroy them the majority of them. That's driven the prices for the goods we buy down. Today we can walk into any grocery store and buy fruits and vegetables even though they are normally out of season. That's because of free-trade. Our big box stores sell products at a fraction that they would have been if not for free-trade. That's because free-trade has kept inflation to the lowest we've seen in in decades.

So, 1) it's destroyed our unions and their unfairly high wages. 2) it's kept prices down on the products we buy. 3) it's kept inflation to it's lowest YoY rate of growth since the great depression 4) We can buy fruits and vegetables even when they would normally be out of season. 5)it's created more millionaires and billionaires than ever before and the highest rate of income growth for the top 10% that we've ever seen. So why are you conservatives so against our free-trade agreements especially given what it's delivered to us? You want to be rich don't you? Well find a millionaire to lend you one million dollars and you too can be like Donald Trump. The American Dream is more readily available today than ever before--just borrow some money and grab it! But we can't do that if we close our markets to free-trade. How do you guys think you can become new millionaires and billionaires if you shut down the market that creates them?

Why is this part of the Second Amendment scrupulously overlooked? The 2nd Amendment clearly does not say that all citizens have the right to bear arms. Maintaining a well regulated m*****a should not be infringed--and there is just cause for that. But nearly no gun owner is part of a well regulated m*****a. But "well regulated" and "shall not be infringed" seem to butt-heads. Yet not really. Allowing for a group of authorized citizens under an individual state to maintain a standing army following strict military protocol in the practice and use of its weapons "shall not be infringed." YOU CANNOT OVERLOOK "a well regulated m*****a."

How many people were shot in Chicago this past weekend? How many died? Why is this going on in Chicago so much worse than the other two largest cities in the nation?

Please someone tell me how many got shot and how many died. I have to wonder what is causing it to be so bad there and I heard Sheriff Clarke talking about it this evening and he made so much sense. Put him in charge of law enforcement in Chicago, if he is stupid enough to take the job, and I bet the place could be cleaned up in a very short time.

Hey, "Boy". First, I absolutely respect your sentiment and conclusions. You probably had a longer and less simple tour than I did. I got in at the advent of 2nd gen FBM's and, because Heimie had won, we got the proverbial blank check. Nonetheless, we had our own dose of miscalcution and lucky outcomes. My only point is that, after almost 50 yrs, I would, without hesitation, do it again! I really do believe that it made a big difference. Was it all imperfect and, at times, un-righteously mis-represented? Hell Yes!!! Was it the best response, using to the utmost what U.S. could bring? Yes, it certainly was and I'm still proud to have been included! .........Bob Kelleher.....RM1(SS)........Uss John Marshall SSBN611........1964-1969.

The first boat I was on was the USS Plunger, which was a Thresher Class. As you might recall, the Thresher went down on it's maiden voyage due to a poor design of the ballast tank vents, they froze. I was part of the decommissioning crew, it was decommissioned in the same shipyard it was built: Mare Island. Different times for sure, the pressure from Russia throughout the late eighties was a Potemkin Village Show. Heck, Krivaks used to chase us into San Diego. My Captain (I used to be a phone talker in the Sail with the CO), Commander Large just ignored them. He always chased the Greenpeace goofballs though. "Ahead Flank": he would announce. The throttleman was busy making and logging those bell changes....

...In any event, my cynicism was a reflection following my departure. As much as I enjoyed being in the Navy (I spent 4 years in the reserves, after I left full time) I appreciated my freedom of speech the most. My last duty station taught me a lot about officers getting their feelings hurt, nothing worse than a female Lt. with a chip on her shoulder and a CO that allowed her to "torpedo" good training opportunities. I guess she thought our paper handling sk**ls were in need of improvement. I guess it was when I threatened to write Senator Glenn, I felt our reserve center was more interested in processing doughnuts and coffee than fulfilling our mission that really riled them up.

Yes very true. Unfortunately, the sad sacks that orient their existence or their ability to "carry on" need a constant reinforcement that they did the right thing for the right reasons. I spent most of my time at sea in a submarine playing cat and mouse with the Russians. They knew we were there and if one their torpedo exercises happened to cause our hull some distress, what difference would it make...a splendid media event for the Russian Media and denial in the US that we were even there.

Now let's' go back to reading the Pentagon Papers....oh, and the Star Report. So many good reasons for a laugh today and thankful I didn't become part of the denial media machine.