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Mar 11, 2018 21:22:56   #
eagleye13 wrote:
Warren’s Response to DNA Test Is Embarrassingly Cringe-Worthy
https://conservativetribune.com/author/ben-marquis/?ff_source=push

Democrat Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren has long faced questions regarding her dubious claims of Native American heritage, a supposed heritage she is alleged to have used to claim minority status to advance her academic career at Harvard Law School.

The questionable nature of her claim — which essentially boils down to stories from her grandmother and her “high cheekbones” as evidence — has resulted in her being tagged with the derisively humorous nickname “Pocahontas” by President Donald Trump and has spurred demands that she produce some sort of indisputable proof to buttress her claim.

The controversy even caused a Massachusetts paper, the Berkshire Eagle, to suggest she simply take a commercial DNA test to settle the dispute once and for all.

But that simple $99 solution to end the debate doesn’t appear to be part of Warren’s plans, as she revealed during a round of Sunday morning talk shows.

“I know who I am. And never used it for anything. Never got any benefit from it anywhere,” Warren said on NBC’s “Meet The Press,” according to the New York Post.

Rather than produce a definitive answer to the question of her claimed heritage with a test, Warren instead implied that she would continue to rely solely upon the tale of how her parents originally met and feel in love and got married against the wishes of their families.

“My mother and daddy were born and raised in Oklahoma. My daddy first saw my mother when they were both teenagers,” Warren explained. “He fell in love with this tall, quiet girl who played the piano. Head over heels. But his family was bitterly opposed to their relationship because she was part Native American. They eventually eloped.”

“That’s the story that my brothers and I all learned from our mom and our dad, from our grandparents,” she added. “It’s a part of me and nobody’s going to take that part of me away.”

She also reiterated her previously announced plan to counter any mention of her as “Pocahontas” by Trump with a focus on the issues Native Americans face. “This is a group that is being injured every single day. We need to bring some attention to it and we need to put some resources on it,” she said.

Do you think Sen. Warren should take a DNA test to prove her claimed Native American heritage?
Yes

Warren faced similar questions regarding her claimed heritage and a chance to settle the dispute on “Fox News Sunday” and CNN’s “State of the Union” programs, where she offered up similar answers, according to CBS News.

“I went to speak to Native American tribal leaders and I made a promise to them that every time President Trump wants to try to throw out some kind of racial slur, he wants to attack me, I’m going to use it as a chance to lift up their stories,” she told CNN, and added that her claimed heritage is “a part of who I am and no one will take that from me.”


Warren also appeared to fend off assertions that she is planning on challenging Trump for the presidency in 2020, though she did leave herself some wiggle room to make a run if she were to reconsider.

The liberal Massachusetts senator could easily end the swirling debate surrounding her claimed Native American heritage with a simple DNA test, but she has refused to do so.

This is most likely because she knows that such a test will reveal to all that she is little more than a fraud who has milked a dubious claim of minority status for all it was worth.

This refusal, and the implied reasoning behind it of her being exposed as a liar about her roots, means that Trump and others will continue to mock her and she will have earned the alternative nicknames “Fauxcahontas” and “Lie-awatha.”
Warren’s Response to DNA Test Is Embarrassingly Cr... (show quote)

My father's Pop used to tell my Daddy that he (my Daddy) was a full blooded Indian; he was born on a horse blanket under a chestnut tree. My Daddy told me this story too, so I grew up thinking I was half Indian. It wasn't until I was 16 that I thought to ask how being born on a horse blanket under a chestnut tree made one a full blooded Indian.

Something like this may have happened among Warren's ancestors and no one ever thought to question the whys and wherefores. That she has sympathy for the plight of Native Americans is a good thing.
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Mar 11, 2018 18:30:03   #
BigMike wrote:
Me! I'm the King of the friggin' Jungle and I make grammatical rules here!

There will be no more posts on this thread that don't include the word "chocolate"!

This concept of chocolate confuses and infuriates us.
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Mar 11, 2018 18:23:33   #
Loki wrote:
Both is not a coordinating conjunction. There are seven of those.
http://www.chompchomp.com/terms/coordinatingconjunction.htm
Semicolons are used to prevent run on sentences.
A semicolon is indicated to prevent a run on sentence in this case.

Reasonable is used as an adjective in my sentence. There is nothing oxymoronic about suggesting that someone possess a modicum of grammatical knowledge.
I must admit that you [sort of] got me on biased. "Biassed" is an acceptable spelling, the same as other British spellings such as colour and centre are acceptable but not preferred.
i Both /i is not a coordinating conjunction. The... (show quote)

Whoops! I should have said, "correlative (or paired) conjunction". You will recall, I did express something of the mysteries of semicolon use; an order into which, I am not even an initiate. You say that a semicolon is "indicated to prevent a run on sentence in this case." But doesn't that mean the semicolon would be separating two independent clauses? The first, "I am pleased to read your contribution", is an independent clause. But is, "both for hearing about your background and also to note that you know how to spell, punctuate, and write correctly", really an independent clause? Perhaps, instead of a semicolon, a colon is indicated (to introduce the list of items).

I did not mean to suggest that possessing grammatical knowledge is foolish, but rather, that grammar is foolish.

Nevertheless, some think semicolon use is not a matter of grammar:
https://kuwcnews.wordpress.com/2012/05/04/punctuation-is-not-grammar/

To me, a more important issue is weather freezing the flow of conversation, by outing Miss Pelling, Miss Taken punk chew a shun, or pillorying poor Grammy Orr, is fruitful on OPP? Isn't it a subtle form of ad hominem attack?
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Mar 11, 2018 05:00:08   #
Dr. Evil wrote:
Or it could be called "The Porch Monkey Chronicles, Adventures in the Watermelon Patch".

Youse guys.
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Mar 11, 2018 04:57:41   #
Loki wrote:
Nope, the 'biassed" was a misspelling; intentional or not. Trying to foist it off as anything else is indeed doubly foolish. As to your query regarding the "mysteries of semicolon use;" anyone with reasonable grammatical sk**ls is certain of the usage. (You will also note my own intentional deletion of the hyphen in semi-colon above; this is because either spelling is considered correct.)

Well, because both is a coordinating conjunction some "authorities" suggest a semicolon not be used. Some suggest that the semicolon be thought of as a super-comma, to be read as a longer pause. Since the both provides a bit of a pause, adding the extra pause of the semicolon is unnecessary. As to comma usage, I was taught, "When in doubt, leave it out". But I prefer copious comma usage. And using reasonable and grammar together has always seemed oxymoronic to me.

By the way, biassed is an acceptable spelling according to:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/biassed

But I still prefer my interpretation.
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Mar 11, 2018 04:07:48   #
Loki wrote:
Otis can write correctly. That makes one of you. While you were busy bemoaning the lack of epistolary eloquence here on OPP, you managed to misspell biased.
Semi-colon rather than a comma after contribution.

Perhaps the "biassed" was intentional, as in two jackassed (doubly foolish), and who really is certain of the mysteries of semicolon use?
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Mar 10, 2018 23:54:38   #
BigMike wrote:
I will remember that and be nice. You can cheer up a little.

Whew! I feel better already.
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Mar 10, 2018 23:47:32   #
goofball wrote:
As long as it's your union, your Justice, tranquility by who? What do you call common defense? More welfare for people who don't need it, instead of working? And how do you discribe security of liberty?

I think the whole idea of Union is not a your or a my thing, but an our thing (not in the Cosa Nostra sense). Because it is an our thing, all the other things mentioned (Justice, domestic Tranquility, etc.) require us to come to some mutual understanding, a difficult endeavor.
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Mar 10, 2018 23:08:01   #
Peewee wrote:
That's why we should study the scriptures for ourselves instead of relying on what someone tells us. Listen to what someone you love, trust and respects, tells you, then check the scriptures to see if what they tell you lines up with scripture or if their words are not compatible with scriptures. They may be sincere but totally wrong or just a little wrong. Our salvation is our responsibility.

Unless one is a scholar of Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin and History, then it behooves one to listen those who are. That said, to what end should we study scripture? Is it to learn some shibboleth for gaining entry into some post death paradise, or to learn the lesson Jesus teaches about how we might live a Godly life?
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Mar 10, 2018 22:25:54   #
archie bunker wrote:
He only said that because the Texan kept kicking his ass.

Having spent over 75% (and counting) of my life in Texas, I think Texas will kick anyone's ass, especially those that don't have the respite of air conditioning.
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Mar 10, 2018 22:06:22   #
goofball wrote:
Please discribe to me why are you a Democrat with out the reteric! What do you really want!

What do I really want? Though this may seem rather rhetorical, I want a more perfect Union, wherein Justice is established, domestic Tranquility insured, our common defense provided, the general Welfare promoted, and the Blessings of Liberty secured to ourselves and our Posterity.
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Mar 10, 2018 21:47:34   #
archie bunker wrote:
Hello Otis. I have to say that I was in agreement with you until I read through the thread, and saw this comment.
I live in Texas, sir, and THIS is God's country! Or is it Marlboro country?
Awww hell, I don't remember, but welcome!

Is Hell considered God's country? As Gen. Philip Henry Sheridan said, “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell”.
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Mar 10, 2018 20:15:41   #
MalG wrote:
Yeah, and If Jesus did return I wonder which political party he would join? The h**ers, name callers, and the rich? I doubt it.

I imagine Jesus would welcome all to his (or His, if you prefer) table.
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Mar 10, 2018 20:07:53   #
byronglimish wrote:
Your Your idea has merit, but there is a element in America not supporting our own sovereignty..to me that is a recipe for ruin as a nation..

It might be interesting to have a thread to discuss sovereignty (i.e., the authority of a state to govern itself or another state) and what might threaten it.
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Mar 10, 2018 19:35:03   #
samtheyank wrote:
I am a man who knows and loves God. HE is real and HE is there and HE is not silent. The only thing I can say is that you better damn well hope HE is there and HE is in the form of Jesus Christ. This is where I have thrown my lot. HELL is not a nice place. It is for ETERNITY!

Some think Hell is not eternal:
https://christianuniversalist.org/resources/articles/salvation-conspiracy/
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