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Mar 12, 2018 20:18:39   #
Nickolai wrote:
https://youtu.be/CEzZ-TEJDvY
Christianity is sun worship

I could only spare time for the first 25 min. of this 1:19 video and that was probably more than needed to realize that there was nothing I hadn't heard or read before.

My first thought, are you just throwing bait into the waters?

Assuming not, I think that calling Judaism an AstrotheOlogy is a bit of a stretch. I think it is more "life" centered than sun centered. So, to the degree that Christianity is a Judaic sect, it is also "life" centered.
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Mar 12, 2018 19:19:36   #
Super Dave wrote:
Terrible and horrible are actions, not appearances.

Not according to:
https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Terrible_Visage_(Deed)
Wherein, "Let your enemy look upon your face and see the fear spread across theirs."


The use of the term "image" may be considered synecdoche (a figure of speech in which a part is made to represent the whole or vice versa).
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Mar 12, 2018 19:12:02   #
eagleye13 wrote:
"Reminds of the woman that "identifies as "black" even though she has no "black in her. Warren (the whinny little girl), could have just said she "identified" as Indian." - snowbear

That may have been enough to get Warren into Harvard. I am sure it helped her grades also.

It would behoove all on this thread (who seek to avoid confirmation bias) to read the following:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren

There you will read that she was never a student at Harvard, but "As of 2011, she was the only tenured law professor at Harvard who had attended law school at an American public university."
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Mar 12, 2018 18:52:31   #
samtheyank wrote:
You are right as rain. It was late when I wrote that comment. I read the ranking in a local newspaper article in my hometown. The man who wrote the article has a Doctorate in history from UVA. He wrote an article using historical facts and things that happened during the last 25 years. He also logically concluded that Trump would win the Presidency and lose the popular v**e. He is a pretty smart cookie. I may be inaccurate, but I stand by my comment.

I would like to read that article.

I think the primary factor that determines p**********l greatness is luck. For example, Abraham Lincoln is usually considered the greatest President because he was in office when the (arguably) greatest threat to our nation was concluded somewhat successfully. Obama's Presidency will probably be considered successful because he was lucky enough to inherit an economy in free fall and left office with the economy doing much better.
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Mar 12, 2018 18:35:19   #
son of witless wrote:
Mr. Wolfe,

This article basically says that if what you just posted were true, we would now be suffering under President Hillary. Since we are flourishing under President Trump, your article is wrong. Proof positive that under Obama, the job market sucked Barry.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-12-27/the-new-normal-alternative-jobs-drove-economic-recovery-report-suggests

I seem to be insufficient in understanding your reasoning, so could you explain how the article you quote supports your statement?
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Mar 12, 2018 18:13:41   #
4430 wrote:
As a farmer I've been in and out of debt all my farming career and debt has never bothered me as I knew how to manage it as debt is a tool.

So I too love debt as Trump said he is a business man and no business person will ever get anywhere without using debt period it can't be done !

So it all depends how debt is used and I'll be the first to hold Trump and Congress accountable to start taking it down instead of letting it get to the current level under Obama .

It is just plumb foolishness for all you liberals to complain about debt and Trump it's you guys that can only think and cry to raise tax and spend tax and spend .

I quite frankly find politicians of all party quite d********g, one only has to look at Calif and my home state of Illinory to see those are run by a corrupt and incompetent group only out to fill their pockets and rise to have power over the masses .
As a farmer I've been in and out of debt all my fa... (show quote)

I agree, that debt is a tool. I imagine most businesses use it because equity financing is unavailable (particularly true of farming). But as with any tool, it can be (in the judgement of some) misused. Some might consider it a misuse to incur debt with the expectation of paying it off at a discount (lend me $100 and I'll pay you back $50). Alexander Hamilton set the precedent that the United States of America would not do this; the United States of America makes the solemn promise to repay all its debts in full. Some (conservatives?) think that President Trump might renege on this promise.

You (4430) seem to suggest that we should reduce our debt by spending less. The following site sheds an interesting light on spending:
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/
wherein I found, "...tax breaks function as a type of government spending, and they are officially called "tax expenditures" within the federal government."
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Mar 12, 2018 16:11:00   #
Nickolai wrote:
The record going back to 1933 shows us that by every measure the country does better under Democratic leaders. Economic growth, job creation, the stock market, Check it out for your self. Conservatives are bereft of ideas cannot govern well. The father of the modern conservative movement and founder of the National Review admitted that the only job of the conservative is to stand athwart history shouting " STOP " It's the only thing they are good at

This may be why some traditional conservatives look askance at President Trump; he sometimes shouts "GO", they think recklessly.
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Mar 12, 2018 15:53:29   #
king hall wrote:
HOW NUMBERS CAN LIE, by Greg Satell, Forbes contributor "Despite what many will tell you, numbers can lie and only fools follow them blindly"

Not all numbers lie. To be Fair and Balanced, Obama's administration did provide the economy with a few undeniable, even historical, ones that both sides of the aisle should remember.

For instance; 2200 GM/Buick dealerships HE insisted be closed, and in fact were closed, before HE would allow GM a debt guarantee be associated with its bankruptcy authorized 'turn-around plan'
However, the admins' Economic adviser recognized the potential for public outcry and created a specific auto industry stimulus plan; "CASH FOR CLUNKERS" (how'd that work out?)
Then there were the 10,000 new 'auditors' HE had the Treasury Dept. hire to police our healthcare because, if you didn't participate, you were committing a crime. And never should we forget the 3 million +/- happy to be going to their respective full-time jobs that were reduced to part-time solely because of OUR national healthcare program. Such are factual numbers one can blindly follow and should never forget...lest we follow them to hell.
HOW NUMBERS CAN LIE, by Greg Satell, Forbes contri... (show quote)

I wonder what statistic you found that said those 3 million +/- were "happy" to be going to their respective full-time jobs, and how many were relieved because they could reduce their workload to part-time solely because of OUR national healthcare program?
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Mar 12, 2018 15:12:11   #
samtheyank wrote:
Everything about Black Sambo is worthless. He will go down in history as our worst President. Obama is number one, Bush, 44, number two and Hoover number three. Pieces of crap.

It is probably foolish of me to think that your comment is anything other than an invitation to flaming, and yet...

What factors are you using in your ranking?

By the way, Bush the Junior was 43. But then again, you may think that Obama was so bad, that he was not only the worst, but so bad that he is also tied with Bush for second worst.
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Mar 12, 2018 14:53:48   #
4430 wrote:
So Obama started this economy that Trump is enjoying by increasing the debt to 21 trillion !

Are you saying this is a bad thing? Remember the words of President Trump, "I love debt".
Here is an interesting video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWI4Y6GWNg
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Mar 12, 2018 01:29:48   #
AuntiE wrote:
Has anyone told you lately what a complete ...words fail.

Absolutely nothing political occurred during this thread, well, until you showed up.

Hey now! I think the proper use of semicolons is absolutely political.
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Mar 12, 2018 01:19:33   #
Super Dave wrote:
Both.

God chose us to be made in His image, live as men, and then enjoy his presence for eternity. But we have to choose to accept the invitation.

I'm a Calvin & Hobbsist.

If God made us in His image (and not just p***eful thinking on our part), then God must be a beautiful horrible terrible person. Sad.
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Mar 12, 2018 00:47:44   #
4430 wrote:
My take on it was that Trump was stating an example of folks that were desirable and those that weren't !

Immigration should only be done like the law intended it to be done back at the end of WWII

Why not like it was done in 1565, or 12,000 BCE?
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Mar 12, 2018 00:41:41   #
lindajoy wrote:
I dont deny what you say butt do repeat, we have a choice, as difficult as it is why not chose “trying” instead of “what’s the point”..

I say this as a person who needs to work on what I preach as well, so Im not excluding myself here, Peter...

Perhaps its just being totally fed up with all this h**e and wishing we spent as much effort on finding solutions not only between us but more so for our wonderful Nation....


The h**e is disturbing; knowing why h**e arises would be helpful. Googling "causes of h**e", I found this gem:
http://www.emotionalcompetency.com/h**e.htm

As to "effort on finding solutions", I think a lot of effort may be needed to learn how to recognize problems.

I also think we have a wonderful Nation.
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Mar 11, 2018 21:52:10   #
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Instead of making a fool of yourself read this!

I agree that the use of statistics provides valuable understanding of all sorts of phenomena, but I think slatten49 makes a good point, in that statistics can be used to murky the waters of understanding. Sad.
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