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Jul 12, 2014 19:39:19   #
robert66 wrote:
It takes more than two people to decide by the laws of the United States. You post conjecture and opinion as reasons to try the president. These supposed violations are unproven therefore posting them as actual violations is lying. I appreciate the fact that you seem to recognize this. When you are promoting the takedown of the president of the United States you should be damn sure you're right, not just kind of right. The only thing you posted that could be confirmed, I think is the recess allegation. I don't know it what capacity this ruling has taken place but the technique of using recesses to make appointments was not invented by Obama and has been used by other presidents. The reason it is a big deal now are many. Republicans say no to anything the president tries so they need this violation to take the heat of their backs. We have never in the history of the United States have had an anti government organization that goes full time on radio and TV with the single goal of destroying the president such as Fox news. I don't want to hear s**t about MSNBC because they don't have the balls to do what Fox does and that is outright lie and promote a government takedown. The funny thing about this is that Fox doesn't do it covertly or hint around , they make it very obvious what political parties they support. Fair and balanced? We report you decide? Yeah , right. Thousands of people listen to this slanted commentary every day with some of the old retired farts leaving it on 24/7. This has a great effect and convinces many to participate in the lies and misdirection with no other consideration of other outlets. If you hear it enough times it becomes true, sort of like old wives tales. Even if you say you do not listen to this stuff it bleeds into every other conservative source. Lastly , a lot of this is plain r****m because there was no other reason to start attacking before the guy was even sworn in. I'm not just referring to criticizing but outright h**eful disturbing rhetoric up to and including assassination. I didn't v**e for him in 2008 because he was black. I thought it would be poor black folk baloney all the time. I was wrong. Either you don't care or you don't realize that when posts like yours are read by the wrong people it helps them to justify their extreme h**e. Think about the two people that shot the cops in Vegas after leaving the Bundy ranch. Is this the kind of thing you want on your conscience?
It takes more than two people to decide by the law... (show quote)


Now you provided some evidence to your thesis and I commend you for that now my response.

My intent is as was stated before, to encourage people to start the process to determine his fitness as president. What I mean is his loyalty and leadership.

Can we agree to the fact that Obama has created errors in his presidency that cost Americans their lives and it was needless?

Now, the information I am posting is not from fox news but C-Span. C-Span is a media outlet that records sessions of congress. Now if the recording is wrong we got a bigger problem than Obama.

As far as me exploring the evidence, it has been brought to my attention through another media outlet, thank God it was not Fox News for if it was it would have been repeated and condemned, that B******i may not have been the Presidents fault and Hilary Clinton may have been innocent. However, if she was innocent, why did she step down? Question for another day.

But after reviewing the article on the testimony of the Military Leadership, I can now conclude, that maybe the Obama Administration attempted to save the people and did not know what or how to do it. This is lack of experience. Lack of experience is not incompetence nor is it treasonous. If you look at my original posts, I don't mention B******i, but I do mention, "Why was the Ambassador there in the first place?"

This is what should be investigated in that issue.

Now you are right about one thing. I am accusing, and the evidence I used is the actions of the president that both the liberals and conservatives do agree on did happen. I throw out due to the obvious, politics, what they disagree on. This is how I presented the evidence I have researched on this site. And found the obvious infractions to me, a layman, not a lawyer.

My accusations of treason, are fewer than that of the 307 Articles of Impeachment by the conservative papers. And every violation stated is just one count, where the conservatives would be a book. However, due to the weight of these issues, I have stated, the evidence, which was taken not from the press because I believe we both can contend that they are unreliable but from Senate and House records.

Therefore, when you say I lie, that is a lie in itself and the argument must of me lying must be thrown out.

Now you are right that there are repercussions on the fact that by impeaching the president we will create a political vacuum that will cause the democrats and republicans to rush into a frenzy.

This is why I kept silent on most issues like GM and other issues that came up. Obamacare is a good idea on paper just like c*******m, however, like c*******m, human greed will cause it to fail. This is what would rob the country of prosperity. See.

I argued against B******i, because the President of the United States failed to protect the people. I think that alone is a crime. I support protecting government officials, they should support protecting me. Understand. these are the basics of the government, neither liberal or conservatives. Now the way its carried out may be liberal or conservatives, but the duty is neither.

Now since I live about 40 miles from the border with mexico, I have seen Obama's immigration policy first hand. His policy is a great failure. And Amnesty is an insult to the legal immigrants. I know because my grandfather was first generation American from both sides of my family and some of my friends are legal immigrants. We speak of r****m and against it. But we are nothing compared to the h**e that is shown between a legal immigrant and an i*****l i*******t.

In the current situation however in regards to immigration, the children are not "i*****l i*******ts" they are refugees. It was the Obama Administration that first called them i******s and then it was picked up by the sheep media. Incidentally Fox and ABC, MSNBC, and CBS. But in reality they are and should be called refugees.

So I agree with the compassion of Obama on this point but I disagree with how he's handling it. And his irresponsible actions are illegal. Which brings me back to the reason I am questioning his loyalty.

If it is found that Obama is loyal to the United States like you and I, then no harm no foul. Hell, the liberals would be rejoicing. However, if Obama is found to be a t*****r, then the Conservatives should not rejoice. Instead the Conservatives should at that point, help reunite the country that this t*****r divided. That is the reason right there. Should impeachment be done, this is the purpose. We are so divided right now, I am afraid that a civil war will ensue. And should a civil war ensue, the Al-Qaeda network would surely attempt to take control. So, there is definitely a good reason to push for this.

America, conservative or liberal or like me the inbetween crowd, do not trust their government. If you can get a hard core liberal and a hard core democrat to agree on anything it would be the trust they feel in their government. This must change. For if we cannot trust our government to do their job, where is our security to do ours. That is why I am accusing the president.

Not because I have conservative tendencies, or liberal tendencies, or that I like a good fight. Which I do, lets face it. But this is bigger than that. Let's dream for a moment. How would you feel, as an American citizen 20 years down the road, if it came out that Obama was indeed an operative from Al Qaeda, and your children came to you and said, "Mommy, Daddy, why didn't you do anything about it."

That is my motivating drive. So, I can turn to my children and say we did, and we won!
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Jul 12, 2014 18:38:49   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
Prettymuch, I think it's a sad reckoning but it's time... probably...


We need to act swiftly and soon. The word needs to go out. Here's a website that did the samething I did here only they came up with 307 charges. http://conservativepapers.com/news/2012/04/04/a-case-for-impeaching-obama/#.U8G1U_ldWAo
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Jul 12, 2014 18:30:49   #
faithistheword wrote:
Pretty brainless reply. But of course, there IS no denial of the facts stated, so what CAN you say?


Tell me about it. I found a page where lawyers researched the same facts I did and they came up with 307 infractions leading towards treason. It can be read here: http://conservativepapers.com/news/2012/04/04/a-case-for-impeaching-obama/#.U8G1U_ldWAo

After reading it, I went woh. I read another article that a sitting president cannot be arrested, unless the President is in violation of the Senate rules. I don't think he broke any of them yet. This research is going down a a dark path. Its getting ugly.
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Jul 12, 2014 18:15:49   #
It has come to my attention that there is another way to bring Obama to Court through the Senate's Master of Arms. Do you know anything about that? I am not a lawyer, I'm just using the Constitution but I read that the Sergeant at arms could arrest the president and bring him before the Justice Department. Do you know if that is true? Has it been done before?
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Jul 12, 2014 18:07:19   #
robert66 wrote:
Your not the last, but the first to accuse,at least today. Here again you try to push another lie.


What lie?
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Jul 12, 2014 17:49:25   #
robert66 wrote:
Only facts in your mind are posted. Things you say are facts are unproven but that doesn't seem to bother you. I call you a liar because you write and post many lies,. Unfortunate but true. Not having health insurance is what robs others, think about it. I don't know how c*******m came to be but I did read how the N**is did and you're coming close.


Why do you say, "facts are unproven" when people who testified under oath, submitted the evidence? I do not understand without sufficient evidence, your view point. I'm sorry you cannot see my point.

I am willing to continue a dialogue with you as long as you present evidence to support your claim. Without evidence, you have no claim. According to the bible, which is not N**i or Arian, according to the New Testament, two witness shall suffice as evidence. Therefore we can have an argument and exchange ideas uncovering the t***h.

Remember, I am only accusing the president with a strong argument. Nothing can be done without him being proven guilty in a court of law. I am questioning his loyalty and his leadership, this is all. I am not condemning him, God forbid to death. Heaven forbid! I am just charging him with a crime. And want Congress to try him. What part of that do you not understand. Any other action is unhonorable. I can accuse him, they can try him and if he is found not guilty, he is forgiven of human errors. If he is found guilty, he must be punished.

If you don't understand that, then I don't know what to tell you. Due process of Law and rule of Law. That's it.
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Jul 12, 2014 17:39:02   #
robert66 wrote:
You are a disgrace to the Christian faith.


I do not understand your statement. Am I disgrace to the Christian faith because I am proud to die for Christ? Am I a disgrace to the Christian faith because I fight to protect and defend the Constitution based upon the rule, "Love Thy Neighbor"? I really don't understand your remark. Sorry.

or is it because by the preponderance of the evidence, through research, I have found evidence leading to my thesis, and this is contrary to your opinion that I am a disgrace? In other words because I do not agree with you I am a disgrace. See with no evidence your argument is empty.
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Jul 12, 2014 16:52:59   #
I must state a disclaimer,

Wh**ever I state may or may not change your mind,
Wh**ever you state may or may not change my mind,
But through the exchange of opinion, fact, and thought we can together find the t***h of these trying times.

And if the t***h leads to holding an American, elected or not, responsible for their actions, let the rule of Law as described in the Constitution be the deciding factor.

Thank you
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Jul 12, 2014 16:26:47   #
By the way, with the exception of Proverbs, I have tried to keep religion out of this. It was not me that brought religion into this. It was the evidence. The evidence that came to be through Obama. Therefore, do not blame me for bringing religion into it when the Christians of this nation, (who by the way and for some unknown reason, do not speak up, or if they do are being silenced by the ignorant amongst us) are being attacked on the very principles in which they believe.

A Christian believes.....Wait! This is not about Christ! This is about the crimes of Obama. I must control my defense of Christians and continue my defense of America. And in doing so, and reserving my defense of Christians, I look toward the Christian American.

Was it so bad to celebrate the holidays with family? To Celebrate Christ's birth? I remember a time when Christ's death and resurrection were celebrated too. Not only on a local level but on a national level. Remember the Easter parade?

Do you remember a time when Americans would come out and decorate their towns that they took p***e in? Do you remember an America where most public shows of entertainment were family friendly? This was the positive effect of not only the Constitution which allowed it but it also was a result in the mass public believing in God.

This is historical, not made up. Therefore, if I were to weigh the issue of religion, both the pros and cons. I come to the understanding that when the people where in religion, they prospered and the moment they denied religion their prosperity fell. Research history. I am just putting this out there. A Christian does not need an AK-47 to defend himself, for he has God. And I am sure that the God of Abraham, Issac and Israel, the same God whose Son came to earth and was brutally k**led by human beings, who rose again from the dead. Wait, let me say that again, "ROSE AGAIN FROM THE DEAD", would laugh at the gun should someone try to shoot Him.

This is common sense. Whether you are Christian or not. Let me ask you all a basic question. If a man who was crucified and rose from the dead, came to you, would you then deny Him? Wait that's theology not the facts against Obama. I am sorry I keep defending the Christian America and I must defend America.

But how could I not defend a people, who for the first time in history welcomed people of other religions and religious freedom when they wrote the first Amendment.

It is very hard for me to separate my faith in God, with the evidence of my faith embedded within the Constitution.

As far as the liberal idea of socialism, and trying to judge for myself if it is a good idea, I find myself researching history for the answer.

Okay, lets do an exploration of history for a moment. The whole world seems to be going to socialism. Okay, was there ever a people, that was different from their neighbors and longed to be like their neighbors. Okay, let's go back to the ancient days. For in that time period man was free to think, but man did wicked things to their fellow man. Sound Good.

Okay, was there ever a people amongst the ancients that was so different from their neighbors that they longed to be like their neighbors and set up a government for themselves that was like their neighbors? Did that government work?

The answer to my question is Yes there was! The people were the Israelites and they longed to have a king. The Kingdom of Israel failed. Therefore this is proof, (incidentally this is where the proverb, "if everyone jumps off of the cliff, would you?") That becoming like the rest of the world is a bad thing. The founding fathers saw this and steered the Constitutional Republic against that.

Also to prevent it from happening they put safeguards within the Constitution to prevent it from happening. Among these safeguards is the checks and balance systems. All I am trying to do is exercise this system therefore protecting Congress, the p**********l office, and the Supreme Court. That is all.

In the process, I am trying to unite America. It is self evident that yes, I am Christian, and yes sometimes, I get carried away by my strong religious beliefs, however, I also know the difference between belief and principle. I am not defending belief here, that is another argument, I am defending principle.

The evidence is usurping the principles as well as destroying the Constitution. This threat is a bigger threat, then all arguments for or against the second amendment argument.

So yes, by my own writing and exercising my first amendment right, I do declare, that I feel based upon the information put out by both the press and public forum, that President Barrack Obama is a t*****r.

Now, what needs to be done is not military action. If military action is taken it would be childish. What needs to happen is to follow the law and the Constitution! I have accused the president of treason and high crimes, now we must follow the rule of Law! Follow the Constitution!

The beauty of the Constitution is that I, a Roman Catholic, can discuss this in true freedom, without being k**led for this thought by the government. Now, I have brought serious charges and claim that a group of Americans are being persecuted for their beliefs by the President of the United States. This is my charge. To back up this charge of discrimination, I draw attention to his actions as President. Following the successes and failures that are a matter of opinion, we build a history of abuses. These abuses lead to the fact that he is against the aforementioned group. This offensive by the President is an act of Treason for it violates the law thus endangering the citizens, especially the Christian Americans.

This is where the evidence is leading, and in lieu of this, and to support and defend the Constitution, President Obama should be brought before a court to decide if I am right.

If by the evidence, he is not a t*****r and his actions attacked Christians by accident. That is one thing, and that is forgivable. However if by the evidence, it is proven that he did in fact commit treason, then he should be punished. This is all I am saying. What Say You?
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Jul 12, 2014 16:26:46   #
By the way, with the exception of Proverbs, I have tried to keep religion out of this. It was not me that brought religion into this. It was the evidence. The evidence that came to be through Obama. Therefore, do not blame me for bringing religion into it when the Christians of this nation, (who by the way and for some unknown reason, do not speak up, or if they do are being silenced by the ignorant amongst us) are being attacked on the very principles in which they believe.

A Christian believes.....Wait! This is not about Christ! This is about the crimes of Obama. I must control my defense of Christians and continue my defense of America. And in doing so, and reserving my defense of Christians, I look toward the Christian American.

Was it so bad to celebrate the holidays with family? To Celebrate Christ's birth? I remember a time when Christ's death and resurrection were celebrated too. Not only on a local level but on a national level. Remember the Easter parade?

Do you remember a time when Americans would come out and decorate their towns that they took p***e in? Do you remember an America where most public shows of entertainment were family friendly? This was the positive effect of not only the Constitution which allowed it but it also was a result in the mass public believing in God.

This is historical, not made up. Therefore, if I were to weigh the issue of religion, both the pros and cons. I come to the understanding that when the people where in religion, they prospered and the moment they denied religion their prosperity fell. Research history. I am just putting this out there. A Christian does not need an AK-47 to defend himself, for he has God. And I am sure that the God of Abraham, Issac and Israel, the same God whose Son came to earth and was brutally k**led by human beings, who rose again from the dead. Wait, let me say that again, "ROSE AGAIN FROM THE DEAD", would laugh at the gun should someone try to shoot Him.

This is common sense. Whether you are Christian or not. Let me ask you all a basic question. If a man who was crucified and rose from the dead, came to you, would you then deny Him? Wait that's theology not the facts against Obama. I am sorry I keep defending the Christian America and I must defend America.

But how could I not defend a people, who for the first time in history welcomed people of other religions and religious freedom when they wrote the first Amendment.

It is very hard for me to separate my faith in God, with the evidence of my faith embedded within the Constitution.

As far as the liberal idea of socialism, and trying to judge for myself if it is a good idea, I find myself researching history for the answer.

Okay, lets do an exploration of history for a moment. The whole world seems to be going to socialism. Okay, was there ever a people, that was different from their neighbors and longed to be like their neighbors. Okay, let's go back to the ancient days. For in that time period man was free to think, but man did wicked things to their fellow man. Sound Good.

Okay, was there ever a people amongst the ancients that was so different from their neighbors that they longed to be like their neighbors and set up a government for themselves that was like their neighbors? Did that government work?

The answer to my question is Yes there was! The people were the Israelites and they longed to have a king. The Kingdom of Israel failed. Therefore this is proof, (incidentally this is where the proverb, "if everyone jumps off of the cliff, would you?") That becoming like the rest of the world is a bad thing. The founding fathers saw this and steered the Constitutional Republic against that.

Also to prevent it from happening they put safeguards within the Constitution to prevent it from happening. Among these safeguards is the checks and balance systems. All I am trying to do is exercise this system therefore protecting Congress, the p**********l office, and the Supreme Court. That is all.

In the process, I am trying to unite America. It is self evident that yes, I am Christian, and yes sometimes, I get carried away by my strong religious beliefs, however, I also know the difference between belief and principle. I am not defending belief here, that is another argument, I am defending principle.

The evidence is usurping the principles as well as destroying the Constitution. This threat is a bigger threat, then all arguments for or against the second amendment argument.

So yes, by my own writing and exercising my first amendment right, I do declare, that I feel based upon the information put out by both the press and public forum, that President Barrack Obama is a t*****r.

Now, what needs to be done is not military action. If military action is taken it would be childish. What needs to happen is to follow the law and the Constitution! I have accused the president of treason and high crimes, now we must follow the rule of Law! Follow the Constitution!

The beauty of the Constitution is that I, a Roman Catholic, can discuss this in true freedom, without being k**led for this thought by the government. Now, I have brought serious charges and claim that a group of Americans are being persecuted for their beliefs by the President of the United States. This is my charge. To back up this charge of discrimination, I draw attention to his actions as President. Following the successes and failures that are a matter of opinion, we build a history of abuses. These abuses lead to the fact that he is against the aforementioned group. This offensive by the President is an act of Treason for it violates the law thus endangering the citizens, especially the Christian Americans.

This is where the evidence is leading, and in lieu of this, and to support and defend the Constitution, President Obama should be brought before a court to decide if I am right.

If by the evidence, he is not a t*****r and his actions attacked Christians by accident. That is one thing, and that is forgivable. However if by the evidence, it is proven that he did in fact commit treason, then he sho
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Jul 12, 2014 15:38:05   #
permafrost wrote:
Snoopy, that is not fair. Why should robert66 get the title???

I think you guys are full of s**t too...

When you keep putting nonsense like this on the Forum, how can you claim to be surprised when others call you names?

All the things trooper lists have been on post again and again.. and they have all been tossed out as stupid by anyone with a mind. Think----Those other evil people in Washington would jump and any remote chance to do in the President of the United States and yet they do not.. Does that give you any clues?? Trooper, how about you??
Snoopy, that is not fair. Why should robert66 get ... (show quote)


In the days of Noah, the people did not believe the flood was coming.....
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Jul 12, 2014 15:33:26   #
robert66 wrote:
It is denied because it is full of lies and suggests an o*******w of our country.You are no better than some N**i operative and a psychotic religious zealot. Sometimes I think that if I didn't have children I would hope a deluded freak like you would get their way and incite more of the likes of the anti government crazies to get out all their Jesus proving AR 15's and tear it up. Are you ready to die for your country ? Are you ready to take responsibility for your actions? Of course not. If you were genuine you would stick to genuine proven issues and leave your f*going religion out of it. You'd stop promoting lies and stick to the t***h. If you think the president should be ousted try to do it the right way , with t***h and honor. You lower yourself much further than the man you h**e. When you see your loved ones die as a result of what you have participated in , then decide if it was worth it. Of course your actions will be Obama's fault because he left you no choice, right?
It is denied because it is full of lies and sugges... (show quote)


I am following the evidence my friend, and if it leads me to a religious war. So be it. I am prepared to die for my God and my country, Are you?
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Jul 12, 2014 15:23:11   #
robert66 wrote:
When you seek to further at least one lie, which you have done, you are now the treasonous one.


I have stated Evidentiary Proof of his misconduct. Not only have I presented the evidence, but I have also stated the Articles and sections in which he is guilty of.

And I have also stated a possible motive backed up by historical evidence. All you have done is called them lies without any evidence to back up your statement. I have both, legal and historical evidence. And the evidence seems to be pointing to one thing.

You on the other hand have made empty comments leading no where. First you call it "full of sh@t", then you call me names, and now, you call me a liar. I on the other hand have called you stubborn.

For this reason I have this to say to you,

"Beloved, while eagerly preparing to write to you about the salvation we share, I find it necessary to write and appeal to you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. For certain intruders have stolen in among you, people who long ago were designated for this condemnation as ungodly, who pervert the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Now I desire to remind you, though you are fully informed, that the Lord, who once for all saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their own position, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains in deepest darkness for the judgment of the great day. Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which, in the same manner as they, indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

Yet in the same way these dreamers also defile the flesh, reject authority, and slander the glorious ones. But when the archangel Michael contended with the devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” But these people slander wh**ever they do not understand, and they are destroyed by those things that, like irrational animals, they know by instinct. Woe to them! For they go the way of Cain, and abandon themselves to Balaam’s error for the sake of gain, and perish in Korah’s r*******n. These are blemishes on your love-feasts, while they feast with you without fear, feeding themselves. They are waterless clouds carried along by the winds; autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, uprooted; wild waves of the sea, casting up the foam of their own shame; wandering stars, for whom the deepest darkness has been reserved forever.

It was also about these that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “See, the Lord is coming[m] with ten thousands of his holy ones, to execute judgment on all, and to convict everyone of all the deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” These are grumblers and malcontents; they indulge their own lusts; they are bombastic in speech, flattering people to their own advantage.

But you, beloved, must remember the predictions of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; for they said to you, “In the last time there will be scoffers, indulging their own ungodly lusts.” It is these worldly people, devoid of the Spirit, who are causing divisions. But you, beloved, build yourselves up on your most holy faith; pray in the Holy Spirit; keep yourselves in the love of God; look forward to the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ that leads to eternal life. And have mercy on some who are wavering; save others by snatching them out of the fire; and have mercy on still others with fear, hating even the tunic defiled by their bodies.

Now to him who is able to keep you from falling, and to make you stand without blemish in the presence of his glory with rejoicing, to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, power, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen." Jude 1:1-24

Therefore my rebuke to your statement is "May God rebuke you." There is no argument here for you do not state facts to back up your thesis. There are witnesses to back up my thesis, these witnesses are the blood that was spilt by an ignorant stiff necked stubborn people. Therefore, "May God Rebuke you!"

I have stated that Obama has failed to protect the people, and I have been proven right, for if he had protected the people, and if he had done his job, his job rating and the prosperity of the economy would be much higher and prosperity shall have been blessed. However, due to the ignorance, that always comes with drunken lust, this prosperity has been squandered away.

And when the day comes, when the ignorant is made to understand reason, a great lament will cry out from the people. For while Rome burns, that will be the only time this stiff necked stubborn people, known as the liberals will understand.

The facts have been stated. Now the warnings have been stated. Which side are you on? The side of responsible and accountable freedom or the side of s***ery?

(Incidentally, by forcing the people to pay for Obamacare, is a form of s***ery, for it robs the people of their prosperity.)

Just for fun do you know how c*******m came to be?
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Jul 12, 2014 09:28:43   #
Dummy Boy wrote:
I invite you to read this: Read it, soak it in....

I don't disagree with you but one has to think about the effect of this pursuit and this article explains that very well


What if I told you that Obama's crime is bigger than that of obstruction of justice and lying under oath. What if I told you that his crime is not a political one or a personal one. What if I told you that his crime is a holy war against Christians?

First, and foremost, would that make sense?

Why has Obama assisted the Muslims and not help free the Christians overseas? Why was the IRS targeting Christians? Why is Obama continuously attempting to force Christians into sinning by making them pay for a******ns and contraception? Why did he assist the enemy by aiding and abetting them for the rescue of a deserter? Why is Obama not assisting Israel in protecting their homeland? What is the common theme here. Do you think it is liberal or conservative? I don't think it is either. I think it is a way of infiltrating the Government and continuing a jihad against the United States of America.

I know this sounds crazy but Obama would not even enforce a Christian law, the Protection of Marriage act! Would not support Arizona in defending its borders, why? What really was Ambassador Stevens doing in B******i anyway? Why was he sent there? There is a cover up there, but it may not be what we think. It just dawned upon me now that Obama is conducting a quiet Jihad against the Christians of a Christian nation. That is treason.

I was writing in response to Mom when it dawned upon me. Take into consideration, from 9/11/2001 until he took office. Remember how the country was? Now take into consideration how the country is now? If I was a general and I wanted to take over the enemy, how would I infiltrate a free nation? I would take a side, and divide the country. After the country was divided I would get my friends to help me o*******w the country.

We have a history of being a free nation, and even in the cold war Russia could not have destroyed us. However, and this is the scary part, Obama is Muslim. He is from Kenya. If I remember correctly, wasn't the embassy in Kenya bombed during the Clinton administration which lead to eventually 9/11. Could that be the motive of Obama going after Osama Bin Laden and he used the 9/11 disaster as an excuse? Throughout his entire presidency he has attacked not Conservatives, but Christians. Failure to support Israel in defending themselves. Sicking the IRS on conservative groups. Attacking Marriage by not enforcing the Protection of Marriage Act. Abusing his executive authority by opening the borders with Mexico. Why? to smuggle Muslims into the country?

Friends and Countrymen understand I hope that this is not true and that I am just freaking out, but it adds up. This is why I call him a t*****r. God, I hope I am wrong. But I need to find out. If we bring him to trial through impeachment on the grounds of treason, we will find out. If the senate deems him innocent. No harm no foul. But if they find him guilty. Wow!

This why I say it is both a Democrat and a Republican issue. It is both a liberal and a conservative issue. Who cares what party he joined and put him into power. I will be the first to forgive the Democrats, I do not believe it was their fault for they were the first to be fooled. I will also forgive the Republicans for not bringing this to a head sooner.

We Americans, liberal or conservative, democrat or republican, must stand together because I have reasonable doubt on the loyalty of this president. If the Senate finds him not guilty, then I will shut up and write no more on this issue. However, if the Senate finds him guilty of treason, it would be the first time since the Rosenbergs that an American was a t*****r.

Now, since the victims in Obamacare, and the IRS scandal, and the failure to enforce the Protection of Marriage act, were Christians. It stands to reason that Christians are both conservative and liberal. That being said this is way bigger than politics and that is why I am pulling out the BS f**g. I will continue to show this in my evidence that has been collected between the History of the US from 9/11 just in the news reports as the history unfolded and the personal experiences I had with certain issues.

Now, I am the last to accuse an American of Treason. I am always for the underdog, however, through the eyes of the innocent I saw this danger. I hope I am wrong but the evidence points to me being right. Is President Obama an operative of the Muslim Jihad?
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Jul 12, 2014 08:58:12   #
Mom8052 wrote:
Ranger, I agree with you 150%. I would like to share something I got by email from friends of my husband.
This, along with what you have stated, has really got my upset.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

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Yes, so what if Barack Obama is Muslim. Please Lend me your eyes and ears for what I have to say about this. I don't care if Barack Obama is white, black, oriental, or arabian. This is not the issue. I don't care if he is Muslim, Christian, or Jew. His religious preference is not the problem. The problem here is Honor.

In the video he promoted what he felt are the positive aspects of the Muslim Religion. Don't we as Christians and Jews do the same? Yes, we do. So religion or culture, upbringing is not the issue here. I have a sister who turned Muslim and I still welcome her as a sister even though I may disagree on theology for I am Roman Catholic. She is still my sister.

The issue with his presidency is Loyalty and Honor. The violations stated above, show lack of honor and lack of loyalty towards the United States and towards our way of life, our culture, and our honor. This is why, I kept speaking about treason.

Treason is the betrayal of ones country and way of life. If I were to research history and go back far enough, I can show that no religion in the world today or in the past is immune to evil. Look at King Saul and he was an Israelite King. Look at the sons of Solomon. They were evil. Now let's get into Christianity, look as some of the priests, bishops, and Popes they too were evil. Look at last century for example, Hitler was a Jew, who turned Christian and then atheist. Take Courage in the fact that we have a real opportunity here to prove that he, a muslim was a t*****r to his country.

Being a t*****r breaks the commandment of "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." That is the Jewish-Christian and Muslim law. How embarrassing it must be, to the Muslim world, that they made a man president that was proven to be a t*****r. Therefore, guilty of the above commandment.

This is not Christian against Muslim Crusade. This is not about the Jews, Christians, and Muslims persecuting themselves this is about treason.

This is not about whether you are a democrat or a republican, this is not about politics. What I wrote and how I wrote it was an American who took an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the actions of my leader proved to be against the Constitution and be treasonous.

We live in a country that has freedom of religion, yet that freedom has been attacked by a Muslim who, may not be a good Muslim. I have known truly faithful Muslims that let God decide if a Man is guilty of a sin or not. Obama did not do this. This is why its a problem. Instead of working out a peaceful solution with his fellow brothers in faith, and opening the door of communication between the Christians and Muslims, he chose to persecute them. This is an act of Treason.

Therefore, he must be put on trial. To do this according to the Constitution he must first be impeached, and then brought to trial by the senate. That will be America's greatest hour, when Barrack Obama is brought to trial for treason. The treason I'm talking about is defined above, he aided and abetted the Enemy, he gave aid and comfort to the enemy and he allowed an invasion to usurp the Constitution of the United States. This is an act of dishonor and an act of treason.

So take courage and tell everyone about the message I wrote. Spread the word, make it go v***l, bring attention to these words. This is the only way Congress will act like they should. Obama has denied his own religion by denying us the right of our own religion. This is a moral delima that is between him and God. This does not concern us, or the charges that should be brought against him. Pray, and spread the word, make this public.

Like the Sicilian said make it go v***l. Show ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS and Fox News and any other outlet you can what I wrote. Here alone, we have support but we need a majority of the public to stand with us. Then Congress has to act. Apathy is not going to change anything. Take Courage in Christ, we are in Rome, and Rome is burning. So either take a bucket of water and put out the flames or let the flames consume you.

Obama is fighting a covert holy war, for he used the IRS to target Christians. He used Obamacare to target Christians. He k**led off many Christians. If he is an arabic Muslim he doesn't understand this is not what we do, we do not k**l Muslims we welcome them. We have an amendment to the constitution called the bill of rights, specifically the first amendment which allows all religions to practice freely without being persecuted. He violated that amendment by persecuting the Christians.

This is an act of treason. I might add it is clever and it is quiet but it is true. The biggest one to lose in Obamacare are the Christians. The biggest one to lose in the IRS scandal are the Christians. Who helps Israel? The Christians. What help did Mr. Obama give Israel? By using the presidency of the United States, the biggest and most powerful Christian Nation in the world, to attack Christians is not only an act of treason but it is an act of War! The Liberals don't see it because they bought into the Marxist Ideal. The conservatives don't see it because we burned them badly in the 1960's with the philosophy God is dead and free love.

So we must stop this t*****r. You watch, should a gunman God forbid! try to or succeed to take his life, the Arab world would attack the United States worse than 911. So rushing the White House to burn him at the stake is out. But to exile him, ah there's a better idea. Then he cannot become a martyr for Islam then and it would show the Islamic world that we are not barbarians but we are civilized men and women defending our Great Nation.

I would rather argue theology with a Baptist, Lutheran, or Presbyterian, or a Mormon, before I would even attempt to argue theology with a Muslim. The reason is because the protestants are still believers in Christ therefore they forgive. Jews can forgive if they want to but they generally don't. Muslims have no forgiveness. If we can show, that Obama is attacking Christians then we can prove Treason. I think we have the proof right now, we just need the courage of God, to push for it.

Do not be scared or worried, God will see this through. And if the Christian/Jewish God is the same as the Muslim God, then we shall let God punish him by proving that he is a t*****r. Then all glory will be seen and the people will once again see the power of God.

Many do not believe me. But the facts are written how do you interpret them. Why should, (and I do not mean to pick on the gays, so if you are gay I do apologize) a homosexual change centuries of the Moral Code, just to get married? Is it an act of Greed?

Why should a Catholic Christian be forced to support an industry that destroys life? Do Muslims support this? After speaking to a few Muslims they think it is an act of infidelity. So now I say to you stay strong and be vigilant, take courage through faith and prayer.

Let me let you into a little secret, Prayer is powerful, for it was prayer that converted Russia. It took from 1917 to 1991 but it changed a huge nation. If prayer can do that imagine what it could do to America. Pray! and defend the Constitution.
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