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Nov 24, 2016 19:44:47   #
"It's all a matter of faith."

Merriam Webster's Dictionary..."Faith...(1) A firm belief in something for which there is no proof. "

Here on this string we see an example of intelligent people acting un-intellegintly, and wasting some of their valuable life time.

People who have a need for religion,( a man made con to allow control of the adherents to that religion, and one of the more successful, long lived confidence games), become very vociferous when they feel their unfounded beliefs have been challenged. You can not dicuss rationally with them because, at least on this one subject they are irrational.

There is evidence that there is an unknowable intelligence at work in the development and maintenance of our universe and affecting our lives. But with our meager senses, which are unable to recognize most of the energies that are being used to make up the universe, we are doomed to know almost nothing of what is really going on around us.

Arguing about this stuff is i***tic in my humble opinion. Accept what is here and enjoy your time during this “life”.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:46:22   #
I had thoughtlessly written...

“Thank you for the ref.

It really is hard for people to overcome a lifetime of brainwashing, especially if it is something people want to believe, such as their religion.

And thanks for conversing. Good Luck to You.”


So, apparently I owe you an apology.

Let me take a moment to explain, please. I keep forgetting that most people haven’t lived the life I have and do not think as I do.

Just now I was trying to find where I insulted your religion and realized that I caused a misunderstanding. Note that my answer on that post was very short. I did not have time at that point to go to your reference and see what you were talking about, so I simply answered to keep the lines open. You will note that my next post starts out ,”Oh, Photoluminescence” .
I had just looked at your ref. I didn’t disregard or refuse to talk about it, just had not yet seen it.

As far as to my reference to religion was concerned, I was simply commenting that when people get a lifetime of litany relating to anything including wh**ever religion they have been brought up with, that it is hard to break loose from that early life/childhood psychological training, especially if they want to believe it. That observation was a general one, not attacking your religion or for that matter anyone’s, just pointing out the difficulty people have in changing their mind about something they have been taught to believe. Using that as an example.

To me religion is a mystery. I look at all the various religions and the various sects with shock and disbelief, especially the great problems and horrendous number of horrible tortures and deaths that can be attributed to them. I forget that most people don’t see religions in the same way that I do.

When I was a child in Germany, my grand mother took me to church and I, as a small child had to try to make sense of the nonsense the minister was spouting. I didn’t at that tender age realize the purpose of religion. The war was about to break out and every Sunday he would insert into his sermon that Germany would win the war because “God was on our side”. Then just as the war started I was sent to the USA, where my aunt would take me to the same denomination church, where the minister would insert into his sermon, that the”allies” would win, because “God was on our side”. I remember asking my aunt (one time only, because of her reaction to my childish question) whether there were 2 gods. As I grew older I realized that organized religion is not a good or healthy thing, whether Protestant, Roman Catholic, Muslim, or wh**ever. So I probably look at religion differently than you.

Didn’t intend to insult your religion, and sorry I if you took offence as you must have. Really my fault.
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Nov 12, 2016 22:43:03   #
Not to demean the work, it sounds pretty good, though I would like to see it's track record. Like I say, some people get well while under any kind of "treatment". To be real and concluded as scientific it needs to "succeed" time after time when tested by different doctors, getting the same results each time. If it can't do that they will attack it , and if you use the treatment you might well find yourself being sued or worse. So as a general rule, doctors stay away from "unproven terchniques". All I really know about this therapy is that we were warned not to recommend it and not to use it. That may have only been political medicine at work, and often is. As I remember it they were taking some guys to court in one of the So. Eastern states, Georgia I think, back in the 1970s, and the case was written up in a couple of journals.

Being nominated for and even winning the Nobel is not the accomplishment you think it is. These kind of things are very political. Remember that Obama won the peace prize. The Guy who claimed to have discovered the v***l cause of AIDS almost won a Nobel until the scandal that he had f**ed his research broke. Btw, do you know when and who got this Nobel? Just curious.

Mr. Bombastic, I am sorry that you have become so invested with what you are writing, that you have lowered yourself to silly imprecations. I had respect for you after reading some of your other posts, and I am
disappointed. It appears that you do not want an intelligent discourse. "Quack" indeed. In future if I see
a post by you, I will keep this in mind.
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Nov 12, 2016 22:02:48   #
As an aside, when I was in college, one of my friends and classmates was a Homicide sergeant on the LA Police force. I mention him because of the unique weapon he carried when off duty. It was an H and R (Harrington-Richardson) 22 magnum 2 shot derringer. It was impossible to see outlines of it because it was designed to be carried in the front pants pocket in a special pocket shaped holster . Both holster and gun are very unique. The weapon was hammerless, double action and the trigger guard was open in the front so that he could reach into his pocket and fire through the pocket if need be.

He had needed it only once. When he was in a store being robbed. He waited till the perp was outside, so that the people in the store were safe, then pulled the weapon and attempted to arrest the perp. Instead the guy ran so my friend chased him into a field and when it was safe to do so, shot the guy in the leg. And that was all it took. Now that was a thinking cop. (Very successful doctor after graduation also, in one of the celebrity towns in So.Cal.)
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Nov 12, 2016 15:03:01   #
Oh, Photoluminescence.

This has been around for a long time. I didn't know they were still using it in this country. I forget if the original people involved were just shut down or actually went to jail.

Things like this will often move from state to state and even out of the country, say down to Mexico where they will be able to pay off authorities and stay in business for a long time. Desperate people will want to believe it cures, and in those cases where they survive, they "Know" it works. And they carefully avoid talking about the ones that don't. Think Steve McQueen, or Bloodless Surgery.

Remember, I don't say that some people will not "get well" while using these types of things including many standard medical procedures considered "approved". All I say is that there is no artficial, Honest Cure available and never will be. Hell at the end of the 2nd WW there were svseral instances where War Wounded troops who had lost the ability to speak, recieved immediate "cure" by having a surgeon make a slight cut under the tongue and tell the patient that he would now be able to talk. That "cure" worked very well. 79% of Cardiac pts. receiving useless bypass surgery, demonstrated vast improvement.

As with any treatment, some patients will "cure" and others not. The claims made for the treatment will of course point to those who's body cured, and take the credit for it.
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Nov 12, 2016 13:52:09   #
Thank you for the ref.

It really is hard for people to overcome a lifetime of brainwashing, especially if it is something people want to believe, such as their religion.

And thanks for conversing. Good Luck to You.
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Nov 12, 2016 13:35:13   #
People h**e the police because they are law ENFORCERS.

Most laws are on the books to force people to do things they don’t want to with the ultimate threat of the enforcer’s gun. Very few sensible laws actually need enforcement, at least not with the threat of a gun.

Of course in this day, most laws are on the books to benefit whoever pushed to get that law on the books, the very first thing sboy lists on this string and subconsciously people feel that, even if they don’t consciously realize it.

Finally, people h**e cops because most people who want that badge and gun are underneath their exterior, crooks. The name “cop” came from the habit of policemen to cop (steal) small things, like an apple from the vendors push carts, etc. When I was a kid who had stolen a stop watch from the school gym, and I managed to bluff my way out. They couldn’t prove I’d done it, but the police chief knew I had, and he told me that I was clever, and predicted that some day I would be a top criminal, or a top cop. (When I got out of the service he tried to recruit me.)

Btw, the IQ average for cops is 107, which puts them in the upper, average, (90 to 110) and thirteen points below the mental level needed to be able to think for themselves. There have actually been cases where people could not get on the cops because they were too smart, and lawsuits were brought.

I want the police around, and put up with the problems they cause, since all societies do need muscle to protect the mob, and I have several cops and former cops as friends. It is the politicians that we need to get rid of.
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Nov 11, 2016 21:50:17   #
Yes Mr. B., I believe I got the thrust of your post. I think you are saying that in this 1 case, the patient’s condition was such that the attending care givers had little hope for his recovery. Then he was given this treatment you are discussing, and he had some evidence of improvement. Then after more instances of this procedure he, upon examination appeared to have recovered. (Since these kinds of claims are often illegal con jobs, they just sent a formerly very respected, oncologist to jail for 30 years, for exactly this sort of thing, I wonder of you would PM me a copy of wh**ever you have on this subject you are using as an example?) .

OK. What has that to do with my contention that no one, no procedure , remedy. diet ,food supplements, etc. can actually develop living cells, Life as it were, which is what is needed if you were to actually have a legitimate claim to a cure.

People cure themselves all the time , even after the doctors have thrown up their hands. In fact it happens more times than not. That does not mean that the procedures or treatments actually cured anything, It only means that this particular patient managed to cure in spite of the doctor’s worst possible actions or best possible actions on that particular case. Even if 100 patients in a row would recover in that treatment, it doesn’t mean the treatment caused a cure. When even 1 patient didn’t recover that also doesn’t mean the treatment was what k**led him. All that would mean was that the treatment did not cure him, and was not really the thing that did cure the other 100.

The major fly in the ointment, and I know people don’t want to hear this, is that the only thing that can heal anything, such as a broken arm is the patient’s body. The only thing that can heal a cancer(assuming that the diagnosis of cancer is correct and we know that medically it is admitted that on average 4 out of every 5 diagnoses of any complex condition are later found to be wrong at autopsy, either the patient not receiving care for what was really wrong, or at least the wrong care for what was really wrong), is the patient’s own body.

Life heals, nothing else does. What we have been taught to call healing is reduction of symptoms. You get a headache and you take an analgesic medication. The headache goes away, and that means you are cured. No, you have just been fooled into thinking you were cured because they managed to give you a strong enough dose of a mild poison to which your body reacted by your sensory nerve system malfunctioning sufficiently to foul up your normal sensing of pain. (Btw, every drug, whether over the counter or prescribed, IS a poison; and if you take the right dose today (which might have been safe for you yesterday,) it can and will k**l you. Since your resistance varies from day to day, will your next dose be safe or not? Thousands of people die every day as a result of the remedies/drugs, legal and illegal that they are using. That aside from saving you money spent on “remedies” that can not possibly CURE, is the benefit of understanding what I have written above.

Am I saying that you shouldn’t use remedies including drugs. No, You should follow your doctor’s advice. If I were to need a doctor of any kind for a problem, I would make a point to state to him that wh**ever he tells me to do I will do exactly as he specifies. But I also would insist on discussing what he /she recommends, and finding out all I can about the suggested process. I would also check my son’s PDR (Physicians Desk Reference) (you’ll find one at your local library) and his latest Merk’s Manual. If I didn’t agree with the advice, I would get a second opinion. And a third, etc.

Good luck walking through the Jungle. And we haven't even gotten to vitamins yet...
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Nov 11, 2016 13:02:25   #
Mr. B., I think we are discussing at cross purposes.
What I want people to understand is that no one, no technique, no chemical, no diet, basically nothing can actually cure, which means to heal. Healing requires the replacement of old sick, damaged, or dead cells with new healthy LIVING cells. NO ONE can do that for another, and the treatments, drugs, remedies people claim to be curing things could only really cure if they could create life.

Yes, the patients, if the “magical remedy” makes the signs (symptoms) of their problem reduce or disappear, believe that the remedy did it. How about the patients who didn’t get that sort of “cure” from the “remedy”. I’ll guarantee there are many of those, but the remedy pusher doesn’t talk about them. I told you about my personal backache remedy which certainly worked for me and many others; but we don’t talk about the ones that it didn’t work for (about 20%).

Yes there are people who will cure themselves, sometimes overnight of certain symptoms. But suppressing symptoms, including tumors that the doctor chooses to diagnose as cancer are not the problem, although to the uninitiated patient they certainly seem to be.

Another point is the doctor’s view of the problem. Did you know that diagnosis of a condition is so difficult, and subjective, that it is agreed that even the best diagnosticians are expected to be wrong in 80% of their Dx,s . ( A few years ago I received an advertising information from the Mayo Clinic that their diagnoses were now 40% accurate. A great advance.) Go to 10 different doctors for exam and opinion, and you will often get 10 different Dxs. Now when the magic remedy is introduced and the patient’s tumor shrinks overnight (and I have seen that sort of thing many times) does the doctor want to believe that his “remedy” cured it? Of course he does, as does the patient. Of course if it doesn’t seem to work, it is not because the “remedy” didn’t work because “the patient did something to interfere with it”. “I told him not to drink coffee, but he did.” Or “there are some things that modern science does not yet understand”.

I’m using this following to try to get readers to understand just how little they know and how they can be fooled.
I think you will agree that most people believe that whole organs can be t***splanted and the patient will live a long and fruitful life following that. What a bunch of nonsense.

First there has never been a whole organ t***splant, because it wouldn’t work. Take a heart t***splant, they, the advertisers imply that you can take a heart from one person and t***splant it , whole, into another’s body and that will work. Do you remember that when this first was being done, that a big issue was made that the size of the donor’s heart had to be exactly the same size as the recipient’s. The reason was that only the Ventricles (the lower portion of the heart) was “t***splanted” and of course it had to be the same size as the recipients auricles to be sewn together properly.

Why not the whole heart? Because in order for the heart to pump blood usefully, it had to have a direct connection to the recipient’s nerve system which caused the heart to pump in proper and useful pattern, and the nerves from the brain enter at the top of the heart. Nerves can not be connected to a donor heart because there are so many, and they are so small, that it would take the surgeon the rest of his life if they could be found and connected, and then they wouldn’t work anyway. But of more importance to the original portion of this post about remedies and live cellular regeneration is what happens after a successful t***splant. The recipient must now spend the rest of his short life taking poisons into his body to depress his i****e s****m, making him subject to all kinds of health problems, because if his i****e s****m isn’t severely depressed, it will k**l off the donor heart cells, because they are seen as invading foreign cells and must be destroyed. Every person on this planet has unique cells that make up his tissues, and this is the main reason that “remedies” don’t work on everybody. Everybody needs somewhat different levels of each and combinations of substances than every body else, for his own personal health.

If we continue this discussion, I’ll explain what Vitamins are and what purpose they serve (very limited), what enzymes are, etc.
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Nov 11, 2016 02:40:33   #
Mr Bombastic wrote:
That's why I like that UVB treatment. Do you know how it works? It supercharges your i****e s****m, so your body can cure itself. That's why it is so effective against cancer. It's also why it can cure the flu. You draw a small sample of blood, then expose it to a controlled amount of ultra-violet radiation. This k**ls the v***s. When the blood is returned to the body, the dead v***s is identified by your i****e s****m, which then attacks the live v***s. This happens within just a few moments, with flu symptoms disappearing entirely in just a few hours. The treatment is inexpensive, and there is a place that does the procedure in just about every state. I don't know about anyone else, but I think 50 dollars is a fair price for missing out on several days of misery.
That's why I like that UVB treatment. Do you know ... (show quote)
Mr. B...

Please re-read my last post . You missed the point. I know you want to believe that there are outside cures, (after all you have spent your life reading about, talking about, hearing about all these wonderful “cures”. Believe it, they don’t exist . In my early years I bought all kinds of seminars, and equipment trying to get better, faster results for my patients. They were all w/o exception disappointing and soon discarded.

I do say that some people will miraculously “get well” when some “new. Scientific, astounding” procedure is used. But those people will usually be found to be the psychologically affected patients, who “believe in “ the “cure”. This is very common, affecting pretty near everyone, you and me included..

In my own case, a few years ago when I was 75, I “hurt my back” helping my son unload firewood from a pickup. For almost a year, I had severe low back pain, especially when getting up after sitting, and on first rising from bed in the morning. That last was really painful to the point I would have to hang on to the bookshelf beside my bed for a minute or longer, before I could move or walk anywhere. A friend, (an orthopod) told me about a crazy cure he had found worked for him sometimes, called Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) in which you would tap on a pattern of certain acupuncture meridian points while repeating affirmations and describing aloud the condition that was bothering you. I thought the whole thing was silly, and didn’t read the book he lent me, until one night when I had been having an especially bad low back day.

Feeling foolish, before I arose the next morning I went through the procedure one time while lying in bed. Then got up. Amazingly I had NO pain, and haven’t had other than occasional slight back pains since which I immediately use EFT on .

I was still running a small retirement practice and decided to try it on patients, with very good results in about 80% of cases that I taught it to. Things like headaches, colds, shoulder pain/w restricted motion. I would have them stand and without telling them what I was doing I would say the affirmation and describe the problem silently to myself while I tapped on them. Almost always there would be some degree of immediate improvement. I would continue doing this over and over untill no further improvement would be noted by the patient. Only then, when the patient stated that wh**ever I was doing had worked, would I tell them what I had done and gave them the E-mail address of Gary Craig, the lay developer of the technique. He didn’t invent it, a P hD did, but Gary perfected it. You might look up EFT, I know a lot of spinoffs have developed from this technique , but I would look for Gary’s website first. www.emofree.com
But realize, though it seems like an outside cure, it is not. Rather it is a way of reducing mental stress, which results in real maladies improving as far as the patient is concerned. It is a fancy placebo, using self talk and acupuncture stimulation to achieve it’s affects.

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Nov 10, 2016 16:52:40   #
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You seem well informed, so I won't argue. I'm no expert. I agree with most of it anyway. I'm a firm believer that most conditions can be resolved through natural remedies, though they also have their fair share of quacks. One treatment that shows promise is ultra-violet blood therapy. You may have heard about it. It's been around since before antibiotics were discovered, and might be the go to treatment for many conditions, if antibiotics hadn't been discovered. It has been used to treat several forms of cancer, some of which were resistant to other treatments. It has even been reported to have cured the flu. The first reported use was on a mother who had just given birth. I can't remember the name of the condition she suffered from, but it involved something to do with the blood. Some infection, or something. It was universally fatal, at the time. Remember, they didn't have antibiotics. She was given the treatment, and made a full recovery. Another natural remedy I love is echinacea. It cuts the duration and severity of colds and the flu in half. There are so many natural remedies that work just as well, or better, than anything you get from a pharmacy. With few or no side effects. Most people don't realize this, but doctors are one of the leading causes of death in America. So, if you're sick, you might want to think twice about who you see. I'm almost at the point where I'd trust a local Witch Doctor, than modern medicine.
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One thing you need to think about is why those “natural therapies” work for some people and not for others. In other words what diseases can we cure.

When I used to do call in shows, this was the first question I would have the Host ask me, so I could get people to pay attention. They all had questions that would automatically be answered by my opening question.....”What diseases can doctors cure?”

Answer ...NONE ! No doctor no, treatment no, procedure ever cured anyone of anything.

Think about it.

For example, when you or your loved one broke their arm, and the wound was cleaned up, and the bone set, and a cast was put on, did the doctor who set the bone, cure it? Did the cast cure it? Did the patient’s diet cure it? All these things were done but what cured the bone fracture?

The bone cured itself. The living body creates all cures. We doctors like to take credit for it, but we can’t do it. Only the living body cures.

It does that by using WBCs (White Blood Cells) to clean up the damaged and dead cells of the wound, (in this case broken bone and damaged soft tissue, and as space is made by this clean-up the living cells in the bone and soft tissue, start developing and fill in the area until al is back to as close to normal as the body can get. For example if the damaged area is very large or the local nerve system to badly damaged, the body may have to rely simply filling up some of that area with patching tissue (scar tissue).

Certainly the cleaning of the original wound by the doctor (if it is not too vigorous and does more damage) helps. Setting the bone helps, (assuming it needs to be set) casting (immobilizing) for the early part of the healing process helps. But none of these things is absolutely needed for the body to heal. (Not setting or casting a bad fracture may mean the patient will never be able to use that part properly or at all for the rest of his life, but the body will still heal as much as can be healed under those circumstances.)

One thing that I found during my practice, is that doping the patient up so he feels less pain, and continuing to do that during healing, slows the healing process, and in some cases actually stops it. As I got my reputation, people with non-union fractures sometimes sought me out. (I had one lady come from Formosa). I never saw a patient not finally cure their non-union fracture, within a few weeks when I had them stop taking pain medication. Pain is one of the nerve/brain reactions that is needed for the body to heal. (I do not mean you should never take pain medication, but you should take as little as possible and stop it as soon as possible. And certainly you almost always need an anesthetic as the bone is set.)

Anyway, don’t look for outside factors that will cure cancer or even a cut finger. The magic of healing they get credit for is not earned. They are now admitting that placebos work about as well as medicine in many cases. Well, we always knew that anyway..
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Nov 10, 2016 13:36:16   #
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Arteries are blood vessels that carry blood rich in oxygen throughout your body. They go to your brain as well as to the tips of your toes. Healthy arteries have smooth inner walls and blood flows through them easily. Some people, however, develop clogged arteries. Clogged arteries result from a buildup of a substance called plaque on the inner walls of the arteries. Arterial plaque can reduce blood flow or, in some instances, block it altogether.

Clogged arteries greatly increase the likelihood of heart attack, stroke, and even death. Because of these dangers, it is important to be aware, no matter how old you are, of the causes of artery plaque and treatment strategies to prevent serious consequences.

What causes arterial plaque?

Plaque that accumulates on the inner walls of your arteries is made from various substances that circulate in your blood. These include calcium, fat, cholesterol, cellular waste, and fibrin, a material involved in blood clotting. In response to plaque buildup, cells in your artery walls multiply and secrete additional substances that can worsen the state of clogged arteries.

As plaque deposits grow, a condition called atherosclerosis results. This condition causes the arteries to narrow and harden.

Although experts don’t know for sure what starts atherosclerosis, the process seems to stem from damage to the lining of the arterial wall. This damage, which enables the deposition of plaque, may result from:

High ''bad'' cholesterol and low ''good'' cholesterol. High levels of ''bad'' cholesterol, or low-density lipoprotein (LDL), are major contributors to arterial plaque formation. But that doesn’t tell the whole story. Everyone also has ''good'' cholesterol, or high-density lipoprotein (HDL), circulating in the blood. HDL is believed to remove some of the bad cholesterol from plaque in clogged arteries and t***sport it back to the liver, where it is eliminated.
High blood pressure . Having high blood pressure increases the rate at which arterial plaque builds up. It also hastens the hardening of clogged arteries.
Cigarette smoke. Cigarette smoke seems to increase the rate of atherosclerosis in the arteries of the heart, legs, and the aorta -- the largest artery in the body.
Diabetes, or elevated circulating blood sugar, is also a major culprit. Even people who have elevated sugars not yet at the level of diabetes, such as seen in metabolic syndrome, also have increased risk of plaque formation.
Other risk factors include family history, stress, sedentary lifestyle and obesity. Knowing your family history is critical.

Plaque often starts to develop during the childhood or teenage years. Then clogged arteries develop in middle age or later.

Do you disagree with any of this?

Now, back to my previous post. I mentioned that a certain vitamin or mineral deficiency can increase the risk of damage, to the blood vessels and arteries, leading to plaque buildup. If one gets the proper amount of this mineral or vitamin, it improves the health of blood vessels and arteries, and reduces the chance of plaque buildup. Do you disagree?
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What you describe in the first part of this ms. Is what you will find, more or less being taught at this time. I will not go into the “details”.. In many cases they are true, up to a point, and I have already discussed the important parts such as the development of atherosclerosis (“athero” pertains to arteries, and in “sclerosis” simply means hardening (relating mainly to boney infiltration in soft tissue and originally relating to calcium deposits).

The disagreement, if such you would call it , is in how it is presented, and the conclusions supposedly drawn relating to that presentation. I’ll jump around a bit to explain my thinking better.

First note that like all these explanations there are the weasel words, such as “believed to...”, “causes not very well understood” etc. that you will always find in these “scientific statements and conclusions”, which gives them an out when they later describe changes in their ongoing “scientific discoveries". Also note the use of “good” cholesterol and “bad”. These, what I call weasel words help to hide the facts that they don’t actually know and are giving you something to allow you to assume that they do know, and or want you to know what they do..

To illustrate, let me use an example from my college days, when they were pushing how bad cholesterol (they didn’t yet decide that some was ‘good” and other “bad”was and causing strokes and heart attacks. You were told that butter, eggs, red meat, etc. should be avoided, in fact anything containing cholesterol. I asked the professor “if cholesterol really caused these things .how come that Eskimos, and Watusi, both groups known to practically live on cholesterol were known to have almost no cases of heart attack or stroke.?” ...His answer which I heard many times in answer to questions I asked was, “Well, there are some things modern science doesn’t understand.”

Btw, hope you are eating butter, eggs, red meat, with relish, now that they have been taken off the proscribed list.

I remember, and you might, of the wonderful T.V. specials they put on to help sell the cholesterol ideas. In several I saw the carefully photographed blockage in an artery. The film was made by a Scandinavian photographer who became famous for developing the techniques and taking the first in Utero pictures of a developing fetus.

The film of the arterial blockage by a huge cholesterol plaque was really fantastic and very “educational”. It started as a tiny camera lense attached to a long metal arm, moved slowly down the length of an artery, with many cholesterol plaques on the walls of the artery, attached like balls of cotton batting, and finally, with dramatic music accompanying it reached the massive blockage at the end of the artery......Later in an article in one of the journals I used to subscribe to, there was an explanation of how this dramatic film had been prepared.

Since they could not find a section of cadaveric artery showing the dangerous cholesterol plaque, the photographer had taken a piece of pig gut, glued in some cotton batten segments and plugged the end with more cotton, shined lights on the outside of the pig gut as well as his internal lense light and using a lathe to slowly push the lense down the inside of the pig gut, shot the film they wanted.

Another example of what I call Bull, is the current BS about “v***ses” (I prefer the word “virii”, but for Joe public it is easier to call octopii , octopuses; let’s not make it hard for him, he’s just a human animal.)

There is a lot of BS about virii, and almost all of it bull. I won’t take the time to go into it other than to give one simple example. You are taught about k**led v***ses, live v***ses, and the harm they are supposed to cause. When I was in college the text we used on virii, had at the very introduction the following. “There is great controversy as to whether v***ses are alive or not. They do not display any of the signs of life. They can not move, they do not ingest food, they do not expel waste. Some claim that they are simply DNA or RNA molecules with a protein capsule. They are too small to be seen by even the strongest microscope, and require th use of an electron microscope and displayed on a screen.” And in those days all you actually saw in pictures of them, were black dots.

Now over the years, periodically I have seen “new” photos of virii, some seeming to look like spirochetes, others oval, and amazingly some displaying COLOR. But realize that they still need to be viewed with an electron microscope....Which can not display color.

This kind of fraud goes on all the time.

The individual doctors are not the problem. Organized Political medicine and their advertising agencies are the ones brainwashing the people. And just like the recent political coverage by the “news” media, you get what they want you to get. Believe. the bull at your own risk.

Btw it takes years in practice before your intellegint doctor overcomes his early training and realizes that what he is doing, other than emergency care and temporary symptom relief is in many cases worse than useless. When that point is reached, if the doctor has enough assets to allow retirement, he retires. Those without such a cushion will have to continue to practice as the State Board dictates, hating what he is doing, untill in his late 60s or early 70s he passes away. This is why the sons and daughters of doctors usually eschew the profession.
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Nov 9, 2016 21:50:24   #
Btw, I was looking over my former posts here and notiv=ced on speaking of rose hips Vit. C, I inadvertantly wrote "mm" (or millimeters). I should have written mg. (milligrams). Sometimes I make myself wonder if old age is slowing me down. Then I look at some of the things I wrote in reports to insurance companies or court cases and wonder how I couls be so dumb. At least that makes me feel better in that it is not old age...(;-)...Just me.
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Nov 9, 2016 21:34:18   #
Mr Bombastic wrote:
About that cholesterol...I heard that a vitamin deficiency was responsible for clogged arteries. I forget which one, but it is responsible for healthy arteries. Without it, the interior walls become abraded, and the cholesterol clings to it, causing clots.

Mr. B.

This is one of the nonsense theories which are foisted off on the public and even lower mentality doctors. There is a little bit of t***h and a silly conclusion derived from that. Invariably the conclusion suggests that only drug care can help. For example there are enzymes involved in your body’s production and use of cholesterol, both in digesting animal cholesterol and utilizing your human cholesterol. That part is true. The rest is Bull. (I once was listening to a doctor on a radio talk show, spreading the cholesterol/heart attack nonsense. I couldn’t help myself on hearing the blatant silliness he was putting forth and called in to the show. I asked him what kind of cholesterol he was talking about, Pig, Cow, Goat, or Chicken. Of course these are each different chemically from each other and from human and which your body simply digests and turns into something it can use. We had a 10 minute discussion. The Host had his assistant get my name and phone number and arranged for me to be on his next weeks show, and I appeared on my first ever talk show. It was quite interesting and I was able to counter some of the silliness you folks are told by the group of “scientists” who make a living helping to push drugs etc.)

As I said above, human cholesterol, which the body produces out of the food you eat, is used, in the arteries, to make the walls slick and at the same time keep harmful chemicals such as alcohol from touching the arterial wall intima, and damaging them. It has never been shown to “clog” up the arteries. In the future at some point you will read about the fact that we really need much more human cholesterol in our blood stream than people are told. It may take another fifty years before they tell you that. At least they have stopped the silliness of by-pass surgery to “bypass these “clogged” arteries. (I once had a patient who they were trying to talk into this useless and dangerous surgery by showing him x-rays taken during his angiogram. He showed me where his doctor had shown the artery was totally blocked. I asked him if he was having a heart attack at the time the angiogram was done, and when he stated that he wasn’t I asked him to explain to me how he could not be having a heart attack, if what the doctors told him was true. He decided not to have the bypass after talking to his surgeon, who “could not explain it”. (Well, I’m pretty sure I can.)

Most of the things, say 99% of what you think you know about health, (what you have been taught by the propaganda machine) and how the body works, and why people age, or sicken and die is just plain nonsense. For example let’s take the simple idea of germs causing disease. How do you explain the willingness of doctors and nurses and other people working every day in hospitals, where you are told super germs abound and patients vomit on them, sneeze on them cough on them, bleed on them, etc. Do you think that when the doctor goes home at night he won’t hug his kids or his wife until he takes an antiseptic bath and burns his clothes?. How much would they have to pay you to work under those conditions? Well, they instinctively know that the whole germ theory is just a money making theory, and has some major weak points, the main one of which is that germs can not cause disease in healthy tissue. Germs are scavengers, they eat dead cells to clean up the dead. That is their function. If you have no or few dead cells in your body, even with a somewhat weakened i****e s****m they can’t cause you to become diseased. First you have to have an environment in your body that allows germs to accumulate. Wound damage can cause that, starvation can cause that, cong*****l weaknesses can cause that, etc.. But even the wino living on the street has a body that fights off the germs. When they try to scare you with stories of “weaponized” germs, laugh at them. It is all bull, designed to control you and make a lot of money while they do that. You didn’t really need me to tell you that, you could have figured that out for yourself, except for the lifetime of brainwashing you and yours have been subjected to.

Who are they. They are the same ones who wrote all those laudatory articles about one candidate while insulting/belittleing articles about the other. Same evil group.
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Nov 9, 2016 13:47:47   #
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Best multi vitamin ever. It's called more than a multiple. What I really liked about them is that it was all derived from food. None of it was synthesized. they also had important enzymes, that helped metabolize the vitamins. You are right about one thing. People with a proper diet don't really need supplements. But most people don't eat healthy. I don't see a problem with taking them. The only ones you need to worry about are the ones that are not water soluble. The best thing to do would be to identify the vitamins and minerals you are deficient in, then take individual supplements.
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Mr B.

Since “eating right” is something that people have no even beginning understanding of, that is a bit hard to do. Remember when they told you not to eat eggs and butter because of that “devil” cholesterol? I had a hard time getting patients to understand that was stupid advice. Human cholesterol is manufactured in the body no matter what you eat, and eating chicken or pig cholesterol had no effect on how much human cholesterol was in your blood stream. You need a relatively large amount of human cholesterol which lines the walls of arteries and makes a slick surface to allow the easy passage of blood. Those atherosclerotic plaques were where drugs and other irritants frm smoking, drinking, etc. had damaged the arteries, and scars had built up which required more cholesterol to cover and smooth out; they did not cause heart attacks or strokes. Now finally 50 years later scientists admit that is what it is all about, but the average person has never been told that, and some doctors still prescribe anti cholesterol medication. Too bad for their patients.

Eating right is very simple, though as part of the depopulation agenda it isl getting nearly impossible. All you need to understand is that if you eat natural food only and avoid all “food “ that has been altered by things like chemical additives, pasteurization, GMOs, etc. you will be eating right and get all the substances your body needs.

As to supplements, in rare instances taken for a few days, weeks or months never longer, if you get natural food derived LOW POTENCY sups they may very well help. BUT realize that for example vitamins (which are co-enzymes) we have only discovered about 10 % of those we know must exist, so there is no way of knowing “what we need”and getting that.

Also more people are low on minerals, but again watch out. For example Iron, especially taken by elderly people can be very harmful.

The real problem is that people do not understand what real HEALTH is. They want to feel good, have plenty of energy, not “be sick”. And they think that is health. IT IS NOT. Real health is when all parts of the body works properly, as nature intended. If you are poisoned,(SAY FROM DRINKING ALCOHOL) you SHOULD FEEL SICK AND VOMIT THAT POISON BACK UP. If you are injured, wounded, it SHOULD HURT.

Real health just feels nothing, not good, not bad, just natural. Stop interfering with the body by doing stuff you have been brainwashed into. .
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