Here is the gist, as I see it.......
In a society, you have to have order. You must have laws to give people a template for public behavior.
You must have laws to protect the people of your nation and state. This is just common sense.

We already have a template, it's called the Constitution of the United States of America.
It's called freedom. Free the people to do well by each other.
Human nature has the good and the bad.......That is why we need laws and courts and so on.....
We don't always treat each other with fairness and e******y.....We don't.
We, as humans, have never done this. Never.
A cursory look at history of nations shows who wins.....and who loses.

Now, it comes down to why some nations succeed, and why some don't.

I have had the benefit of traveling the world. I have seen first hand of abject poverty, and wealth. I could be considered one of the lucky people. I had good parents...I was given freedom of choice.....and I was given my own thought.
I was able to make mistakes! And learn from them.

Along the way, I learned about what works, and what doesn't. The people I have dealt with taught me every step of the way.
As long as I kept my eyes open and my ears, and my brain....I learned.

I have been to 16 countries.....We don't think alike.

But, consider this....Why do people always want to come to America?

Freedom. It's not they are all good people....No...Bad people love freedom as much as good people.
In fact, the bad favor freedom more than the good. That is why we need laws even as we espouse freedom.

But, when government get's too big, they control. They control everything.

If you had a job where you could v**e for a pay raise, would you take it? Of course!
That is congress.
If you had a job where you knew you really couldn't get fired, had a pay raise every year, a federal pension and healthcare, would you take it? Of course!
That is called working for the government.
It is couched as "Working for the people".........Hmmmmm...

All this government is paid for by......The people that are the core of America.....Let's get that straight.

And, I'll tell what I have seen in Cuba......The average Cuban gets about 25 dollars a month. Yes, they have free access to education....Dictated by the the c*******t government...Yes, they have healthcare....Dictated by the government...Freedom of the press, of speech? No. They don't have that. Cubans don't own anything.....Nothing. They are essentially prisoners in their own country.

You have to escape Cuba......

Now, why do liberals like this government?

Because they get control and wealthy........That is the biscuit.

Well, being as globalism requires all nations under one roof, so to speak, that would need a world order.
Since virtually every nation has been stout in their borders, cultures and language....and Tribes,
It's hard to imagine a g*******t government without mass murder of innocents that are in the way of "Progress"

Wipe out the one's that don't agree with the agenda.....Sounds like c*******m.

America is about free trade.....Yet, we deal in a world which is not subject to our internal laws. Thus you have an imbalance.
Picture this......
You have a pail of water.....But, some have less than a pail of water. Why? That is another question.
Do you equalize the level of water so everyone has equal amounts?
Or, do you strive to increase the level?
In one scenario, the "e******y" results in deprivation.

Let us face the Reality.

As much as the USA has done for nations and people around the world, we can't fix the nature of the people around the world.
We, as world, have seen this before.

So, tell me.......Are "Progressives" AKA "Liberals" The answer?

No.......We are still Nation States with vested interests in our own self interests.
I go with the USA

Suppose everyone thought alike.....The world would function in unison.

Nirvana? Utopia?.......Oh, yeah....

But...Reality intervenes.

Do you want to be strong or weak?
A simple choice.

Now, every aspect of life must be examined from the micro to macro.

Choose your category.

Micro? Do you want to be a strong person in your relationships? Parent? Job?
Of course the answer should be "Yes".
Why not?
Be strong....But don't be angry, or mean.

Macro? As a nation, strong is better than weak.

The confusion we have now is the liberals saying a weak nation is strong because a weak nation accepts being weak as a sign of acceptance which is seen as a strength. Confusion.

Do these people study history at all?

We are going through a time where governments are saying they have the answers, yet, they create the problems.

However, if you love the United States of America, you should love it to be the strongest nation.
Why? Because the rest of the world is under siege.

We..Americans....Are the last bastion of support and civility.

Get this now before it's too late.

Hi Morgan,

Harpooner here...I got that moniker some time ago, so I stuck with it. It could have many innuendo's, but let us just say I have never caught a whale!.

I was very fortunate to have traveled the world. It was not always easy as we, the family, were at times broke financially.
But, when you can experience the Egypt and the history, you learn something. When you can roam freely through Ethiopia,
You learn something. When you can go through The Serengeti, Tsavo, Amboseli, Lake Manyara, Ngorongoro crater, ....you learn something. I think I forgot a couple of places. Yeah, there was the illness.....Just as bad as Mexico, if not worse.
But, it was a journey. Liberia, Nigeria, then settled in Sierra Leone...What fun!
I got to take a year off of school!
But, I tell you...we all learned a lot.

I have never been into the g****r ine******y thing. I don't see the point. Men and women are different. We have to be.
One of my jobs, as a man, is to protect the women. Yeah.....It's a natural response. I am not one to say, " Hey...take care of yourself.....".......That is just not right.

While raising my daughters, I tried to teach them what I knew. They kind of where interested in cooking..Kind of...But, they were more interested in eating the food I made them. They were kind of interested in how cars work, and how to fix them....But, they were more interested in a working vehicle so we could go somewhere. They were kind of interested in sports....But, it was more of a social thing....winning didn't matter much.

They were interested in their own things.

Nothing wrong with that.

As we go through life, we find what interest we have.

As long as you don't harm another person, and you accept your choices......No problem.

I have tried to learn every step of the way in life. I have played football, baseball, ice hockey, soccer and skiing.
All at a high level. There is a difference in mindset between team sports and individual sports.
When I was playing ice hockey, my mother was working on her next nursing degree. Because of the ice rink schedule, practice was from 11pm to 1am.....That was dedication. And that was after football practice.....
I don't how they did it, my parents....I am not sure how I did it either!

But, here is a couple with four kids......And we all had our things.....And they did it, a couple.........And they did their own stuff as well. 50 years they did......

Argue? Oh yes.....

But, they would always go to bed together when they were together.

And we all fell into roles as a family. It just happens. I was the chef.....I cooked the meals. Mom gave the tools, and I took the job. My older sister was the teacher....Until she got bored.....Then she went abroad to study.
My younger sister was the cheerleader. Yeah, she got "Miss Drill Team USA"......She is a Yoga expert now.....
My younger brother just did........not much. He just kind of watched.
He works for the government..............Ehhhhhhh...." Works" is the operative word!

So, in my family, I am the hardcore male....No doubt. Yet, I am also the one who has fed the family. No one else will take the time to make a meal.....
But, that is not a measure of worth........
If you can teach......Teach.....your good values...That makes a difference.

[quote=RETW][quote=saltwind78]archie, Women like everybody else in this country have the right to protest. When the protest is against Trump, it's a patriotic event. The SOB needs to be impeached, hopefully for treason![/quote


You need to be jailed, hopefully for being stupid. But no one can fix that.

And you supported Obama.......And Hillary, no doubt.......Nice.....
Where are your values? The gutter?



RETW

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If you participated in sports, and you have a r****t attitude, you have lost already.
There is a difference in team sports and individual sports.

A team must have cohesion. The only thing is ..can you perform?

The success of the team is predicated on this unity. If you, as a person, cannot get along with others, then....You are gone.
Does not matter the color of your skin.

That's his cross to bear......Of course I don't agree with his actions. He made his bed, as we all do.....

Hi Morgan,

First thing, when I post something, it is usually a serious post. At times I use sarcasm, and humor laced with innuendo...
But, I posted this topic as a test of sorts. To see what I would get.
Since there was so much in the news about " A day without Women",
I changed it up a bit. " A day with Women"......Few caught it. No, they went with the media playbook.

Having raised two daughters, I know of what I write. Men and women are different, and we have different outlooks. In fact, people can look at the same thing come to different conclusions.

I grew up in a medical family, both parents were in this field. We traveled the world as my parents did work that they wanted to do. And it was sports. You do not have any r****m in sports.....It's all about performance.

Of course, I want equal pay for equal work. Of course I want women to be protected from work place harassment.
So, don't you think it is up to the individual?

That is where it starts and ends....

It may happen slowly..........But, we need to come together as a nation for this e******y to spread. The other countries are not even close to changing.....That is reality.

Well, given the times.....men should have to go like women do....It's only fair.

I mean, think about skiing, for instance.....Yeah, you have to get bundled up....But, us guy's can always detour to the trees and write our names in the snow....

This should be outlawed in the name of e******y!

We can't just be able to drop trows anytime we want and go..........No, oh no......

So, it means all public restrooms have to have individual stalls. Yep.

Think of what this means at sporting events.......Have you seen the lines at women's restrooms? Of course you have!
That's why women frequently use the men's restrooms....they do....

What's the solution? Ok....women should have penises.....NO! No, NO and No!

Live with the differences........Applaud the many facets of the two sexes that make human life. There will be love.....There will be heartbreak......There will gain and loss......

It's called life.

Hey, Arch......I know it may take two hands, but, you can get the aim right....Right down the middle...
It's like darts, only different...hehehehe....Ehhhhhhmmm...

Don't even lift the seat.

Arch, you are truly a trailblazer......

Do women look before they squat?

No one is perfect here......I have left the toilet seat up purely by accident....late at night....semi drunk....You know...
And, sure enough....., the Little Mrs, gets a bidet....hhehhhh...ehhhhmmm.

Oh, I have not done it since......Not the semi drunk, but, the seat up...

There should be an app for this, dontcha' think?

My ex bailed in less than five years.....And I have been raising my daughters....
Oh, she has them from time to time. The funny thing is, I pay her for child support! Yeah.....
I stopped going to court to get this changed as I was spending more on my lawyer than what I was paying her.

I s**t thee not.....

It's about the kids, though. As long as they are well fed and schooled and happy, then you have a good life.
I know my folks had it a lot rougher than I have had. They stayed together for 50 years. Raised 4 kids and we all traveled the world together.
Looking back, it was a good upbringing. You don't know at the time, as you are going through it. It can always be better, of course......But, perfection resides in nature, not human nature.

What I have learned by being a parent is patience. And, I learn from my children. I learn from their wonder and their growth.
I learn from their love and fears. Wh**ever the future holds, they will go through it with the knowledge they have support.

It's kind of funny...My girls both love horses....But they have yet to ride one! I have tried....As I have ridden horses from 6 years old......I was a pro skier, and I tried to get them skiing.....No go...My oldest daughter had her rationale.." Yeah, Dad...I really want to go and get cold and wet and fall and bonk my head and have a knee injury like you....I really want that.."
Her sarcasm did make sense.......No bravado there, but, sense for her.
Of course her younger sister said, " Yeah, Dad........"
So, no skiing.
No ice skating either.......I played Hockey, and they liked the idea of ice skating......4 tries, no go....
Ahhh well. They do like my food, though. I cook to order!

Do I know a day with Women? Oh yeah.....

Hard to argue with that logic..

Here are a couple of songs that may illustrate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TCMpA5TfHc

You can always reflect......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUwjNBjqR-c

But you can never go back....

Stay on the subject......I tricked you all...You all wanted to respond to "A day without women", because that is what the media gave you......I gave you "A day with women"....

Tell me what that is like.....

Ok........Enough of you responded to the " day without women" concept.
I posted "A day with women"..

Some of you didn't get it, in fact, most.
It was a ironic take on "A day without Women"....

I have been married twice....My first marriage produced two daughters, One divorce and a 6 figure legal bill.

I, hurt and shocked, had many days without a woman by my side. I took care of my kids for 15 years as a single Dad.

I have since found a woman that is trustworthy, kind, sexy and loving. I can't imagine a day without her.
Oh, she doesn't do anything extraordinary..No... She just is who she is. But she is by my side every step of the way.
She tells me what she wants, in a kind way, and she get's it. I tell her what I want ...and I get it...In a kind way...

That is why we are happy together.

The sex is fabulous! And the love grows.

Forget the bitter...go for the sweet.