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Jul 26, 2018 02:11:42   #
PeterS wrote:
His mother was American. Why does it matter where he was born?


If he was born in Kenya his Mom did not have the qualifications under the law as it was written at the time to pass on her citizenship therefore he was not even an American, much less Natural Born as the US Constitution requires for the office of President. Why does it matter what the Constitution says? If the Constitution has no value what does this mean to the Nation? What does this mean to our laws and culture if the Constitution is worthless? The bedrock to our legal system is the Constitution and if that goes away so too does everything else and this country becomes just what the Democrats want it to be: lawless. Of course that is exactly what they intend so I can see that it matters not a whit to them, but I can for sure tell you that it matters a lot to me.
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Jul 8, 2018 01:43:02   #
rumitoid wrote:
Why did so many working class v**ers choose a selfish, thin-skinned, petulant, lying, narcissistic, boastful, megalomaniac for president?

It’s important to know, because we need to stop more Trumps in the future.

The answer lies in the interplay between deep-seated r****m and stagnant and declining wages. Both must be addressed.

Some white working class men and women were — and still are — receptive to Trump’s bigotry. But what made them receptive? R****m and xenophobia aren’t exactly new to American life. Fears of b****s and immigrants have been with us since the founding of the Republic.

What changed was the economy. Since the 1980s, the wages and economic prospects of the typical American worker have stagnated. Nearly 80 percent now live paycheck to paycheck, and those paychecks have grown less secure.

Meanwhile, all the economy’s gains have gone to the richest ten percent, mostly the top 1 percent. Wealthy individuals and big corporations have, in turn, invested some of those gains into politics.

As a result, big money now calls the shots in Washington – getting subsidies, tax breaks, tax loopholes (even Trump promised to close the “carried interest” loophole yet it remains), and bailouts.

The near meltdown of Wall Street in 2008 caused a recession that cost millions their jobs, homes, and savings. But the Street got bailed out and not a single Wall Street executive went to jail.

In the two years leading up to the 2016 e******n, I revisited many of the places I had visited when I was labor secretary in the 1990s.

People told me the system was “r****d” against them. A surprising number said they planned to v**e either for Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump — the two anti-establishment candidates who promised to “shake up” Washington.

But Trump’s r****m and xenophobia focused the cumulative economic rage on scapegoats that had nothing to do with its causes. It was hardly the first time in history a demagogue has used this playbook.

If America doesn’t respond to the calamity that’s befallen the working class, we will have Trumps as far as the eye can see.

A few Democrats are getting the message – pushing ambitious ideas like government-guaranteed full employment, single-payer health care, industry-wide collective bargaining, and a universal basic income.

We also need ways to finance these things, such as a carbon tax, a tax on Wall Street trades, and a progressive tax on wealth.

o accomplish all this we have to get big money out of politics.

Even if “Citizens United” isn’t overruled, big money’s influence can be limited with generous public financing of e******ns, full disclosure of the source of all campaign contributions, and a clampdown on the revolving door between business and government.

Trump isn’t the cause of what’s happened to America. He’s the consequence – the product of years of stagnant wages and big money’s corruption of our democracy combined with a long legacy of r****m and bigotry.

If we really want to stop Trump and prevent future Trumps, we will need to address these causes of Trump’s rise.
https://www.salon.com/2018/07/07/robert-reich-how-to-prevent-future-trumps_partner/
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quote=rumitoid]Why did so many working class v**ers choose a selfish, thin-skinned, petulant, lying, narcissistic, boastful, megalomaniac for president?

When I read that the person that sprang to mind was Obama. You could apply that description to both Obama and Trump, except that I would add EVIL to the Obama one.
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Jul 5, 2018 22:31:23   #
Loki wrote:
You are wrong about Cruz. US law states that a child born to a US citizen parent anywhere in the world is a US citizen by birth, as long as the citizen parent resided in the US for five years after her 14th birthday. (Operative US law when Cruz was born.)
Obama could have been born in Kenya and he would still be a US citizen by birth, provided his mother met the requirements. That is the problem. His mother was barely old enough to meet those requirements, and some say his birth certificate was falsified to correct this. They may be right, but there have been about 30 court challenges that have failed.
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Those court challenges were not thrown out on the basis of law, but because the people who challenged were denied standing. Then the later challenges were thrown out on precedence. There has never been a court case that looked at the law of the matter, and no Federal Court has taken up the matter at all.

The law is as the Constitution says it is and that document says that to be Pres or Vice Pres you have to not only be a citizen you have to be natural born. Why else would this clause be placed in the document? If all that was needed was to be a citizen, why would the drafters of the Constitution need this sentence? They obviously felt it to be important; at that time they did not have typewriters or computer programs and every copy of any document had to be hand-written so why would they add extraneous paragraphs? They knew what they were writing so who are we to second-guess them?

At the time the Constitution was written natural born was defined by those authorities that were accepted at the time as born of citizen parents. That also has not been changed so it is still the law. There have been attempts to challenge the definition, notably by Hillary herself, but the challenges have not been picked up or ruled on by the court. The only court that has ruled on anything affecting the natural born clause has supported it as is, which makes Obama and Cruz ineligible to be President even if they were born in the USA.

Being born outside the country of citizen parents as you say does not disqualify one from citizenship provided the mother (in Obama's case) was qualified to pass it on, and she was not qualified at the time (the rule has since been modified but you cannot go back to apply a new law to old cases). But even then to be natural born BOTH parents had to be US citizens at the time of the birth, which did not happen with either Obama or Cruz.

However there is no law preventing someone who is not qualified from running; it is up to the DNC or RNC to decide if someone is qualified and to state that in the filing for the e******n. I read that in O's first term the required statement was issued, but in his second the DNC only said he was the candidate. It declined to say he was qualified, meaning that even they knew they were skirting the law.

Someone born in the US provided he is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is a citizen at birth. If the parent(s) is in the country illegally that child is NOT subject to the jurisdiction thereof and so is NOT qualified to automatic citizenship. This is keeping with most country's laws. I cannot think of any country that allows automatic citizenship just because of birth in the country. One requirement, sure, but if the parents should not be there neither should their kid and as for "anchor babies" that is a made-up term that is meaningless in law but we seem to be encouraging lawlessness nowadays.

We might not like the way the law is written or what it says, but we are bound by it. Deciding these important matters on the basis of feeling or political priorities is stupid and will lead to chaos. Or maybe it has already.
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Jul 4, 2018 21:20:43   #
JoyV wrote:
While I am not a birther, and at this point the issue is moot; there were some legitimate questions regarding Obama's birth certificate. Especially that neither the hospital nor the HI vital records could locate his birth certificate. It was released by his own people. I don't recall anyone saying where they located it. This does not prove anything, as records have been known to go missing. But it does raise doubts.


The last report I read about concerning O's Birth Certificate was that it was found in a box of stuff in O's spare bedroom a couple of years after he was elected and started his term. He first found some f**e certificates apparently issued by the hospital to be used to hand out to visitors (the type that looks real but you have to add the name and date etc, not meant to be confused with a valid certificate but a type of souvenir). That was quickly typed out and given to the newspapers by his lawyer. Then he found a "real" certificate and that was used as a replacement. A very fishy story and it does not make me satisfied at all. After all, who would not have his/her birth certificate in a safe place? Who would not know where it was at all times? Even my kids would not do that and they are very forgetful. After all, with a career in public life, college, working for the government when it would be necessary to prove identity even for a job as dogcatcher, how could he not have his birth certificate and Social Security Card? If I employ anyone and he cannot prove identity he is quickly let go, so how can the President get through all that fanfare and scrutiny and still not be able to prove who he is? Even to this day he cannot do it.
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Jul 4, 2018 21:02:25   #
PeterS wrote:
Look, there is nothing he could have produced that you people would have accepted. What you are missing of course is that because his mother was American it didn't matter where he was born--his mother had already established his birthrights for him--what his birth certificate said was totally irrelevant...


Yes it does. If he was not born in the US his mother could not have passed on her citizenship to him because at the time of his birth she was too young and had not had the required time living in the US herself.

If he was born in the US he was not a Natural Born citizen because his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth so he would not have been entitled to be President or Vice President under the rules of the Constitution.

And his birth certificate was proved to be a forgery.

These are all facts. Just because you don't care does not make it untrue.
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Jun 23, 2018 16:35:53   #
drlarrygino wrote:
Not only do the corrupt demonrats love ms13 but they love all felons, all murderers, all baby k**lers, all p*******es, all drug runners, all i******s, all marxists and c*******ts, all illegal v**ers, all f**e major media outlets, f**e pollsters, all islamists and sharia lovers, and all sexually perverted individuals, and that's just a short list of whom the dems love and support. The dem party is subversive, a terrorist organization and needs to be outlawed and disbanded for its never ending attempt to promote immorality, treason, and societal destruction.
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That is absolutely true and should be put on billboards all over the country, full-page ads with this as the theme in all newspapers, blasted out on social media, television, magazines and repeated every single day until the country wakes up. Unless this is done this country will be not be safe for right-thinking, civilized and compassionate people with families to live in for too much longer.
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Jun 21, 2018 20:51:26   #
mwdegutis wrote:
I*****l A***ns Fatally Separate Hispanic, Black and White Children From American Parents
Daniel Greenfield ~ June 20, 2018
In 2008, Colorado separated a Jewish boy from his parents.

Marten Kudlis was separated from his parents while waiting for his mother to bring him his ice cream. The 3-year-old boy who had just been playing in the park never got his ice cream.

Instead Francis Hernandez, an i*****l a***n driving 81 miles an hour, slammed into a pickup truck, k*****g the two women inside, and smashing it through the glass wall of the Baskin Robbins.

Blood and broken glass covered the floor. Little Marten, who had just learned to ride a bike, died of a slashed jugular vein and was buried with a teddy bear.

Francis Hernandez had been arrested 16 times in 5 years without ever being turned over to immigration authorities. That failure to enforce i*********n l*w separated a little boy from his family forever.

Advocates for illegal migration claim to be outraged by family separation. They want i*****l a***n invaders like Francis to go on separating American children from their families. When previous administrations failed to enforce border security, they separated American children like Marten and many others from their parents forever. And the blood of those children is on the hands of the posturing politicians, activists and pundits who want to unite i*****l a***ns and separate Americans.

In February 2018, the United States government separated Grace Aguilar from her parents.

Grace was a bright and cheerful 6-year-old girl. While she was sitting by her favorite tree in the front yard of her family home, Maximino Delgado Lagunas, a Mexican i*****l a***n who had already been deported twice, ran her down.

The i*****l a***n's blood alcohol limit was three times the legal limit. He had been arrested before for a DUI but was put back on the street by local cops instead of being turned over to immigration authorities.

Sanctuary city policies separated Grace, whose parents had tried to have children for 8 years, from her parents. The i*****l a***n who k**led her had been deported twice, once under Bush and once under Obama. The combination of lax border security by these two administrations and local sanctuary policies permanently separated the little girl and her parents. Unlike the i*****l m*****ts whose plight is playing out on every cable news channel, the Aguilar family will never get their daughter back.

16-year-old Kayla Cuevas and 15-year-old Nisa Mickens were separated from their parents when they were battered with baseball bats and butchered with a machete in a suburban cul-de-sac by i*****l a***n MS-13 members.

The brutal i*****l a***n assault left the bodies of the African-American teenage girls, who had been out celebrating Nisa's birthday, barely recognizable.

“There are days where you feel like you want your world to end, just like your child’s,” Kayla's mother said. “Then you realize you have a new purpose: to fight, so that your child’s death is not in vain.”

10-year-old Alena Clay Lacy was separated from her family while walking down a bike lane with her 16-year-old sister and two other girls. Juan Carlos Ortega-Santos, an i*****l a***n, had no driver's license, no insurance and his blood alcohol level was far over the limit. 16-year-old Tyeisha Lacy, Alena's sister, pushed an 8-year-old girl out of Juan's way. But Juan slammed into the two Lacy girls k*****g them both.

"He will never know the extent of the damage he did," Lakeenya Lacy, Tyeisha's mother, said in court. "You did not just take their lives. You took other people's lives with them."

4-year-old Ellie Bryant and 22-month-old Grayson Hacking were separated forever from their mother when Margarito Quintero Rosales slammed head on into their car. Ellie, Grayson and Courtney Hacking's husband, Peter, were all k**led.

Rosales had been previously deported and had no license. He was sentenced to two years in prison.

15-year-old Genesis Cornejo-Alvarado was separated from her parents when two i*****l a***n MS-13 gang members k**led her in a satanic ritual after previously raping her and a 14-year-old girl.

11-year-old Abigail Robinson and 6-year-old Anna Dieter-Eckerdt were separated from their parents while playing in a pile of leaves. Cinthya Garcia-Cisneros, who ran them over, was an i*****l a***n and one of Obama's DREAMERs. Despite k*****g the two girls, she was released from jail and allowed to apply for a Social Security number and a work permit. And that is exactly what i*****l a***n advocates want.

When i*****l a***ns separate a child from his or her parents, no power on earth can undo that separation.

The sheriff's department and volunteers searched hundreds of acres for 14-month-old Owen Hidalgo-Calderon. The body of his mother, 18-year-old Selena Hidalgo-Calderon, had already been found.

Evarardo Donoteo-Reyes, a Mexican i*****l a***n who had already been deported twice, and convicted once of illegal entry, was charged with moving her body.

10-year-old Kayla Gomez-Orozco went missing after church. Her body was later found in a well. The accused murderer was Gustavo Zavala-Garcia, her previously deported i*****l a***n uncle, who allegedly sexually assaulted her, beat her with a blunt object, choked her and then drowned her in the well.

But sometimes i*****l a***ns don’t even bother separating parents and children. Marco Tulio Hernandez Ramirez was driving his employer’s van when he slammed into the Cannon family's Toyota Camry.

His blood alcohol level was three times the legal limit, he didn’t have a license and was driving on the wrong side of the roadway. But the i*****l a***n survived to become a 40-year burden on taxpayers. 5-year-old Rose Marie Cannon didn't. Neither did Katherine Cannon and Russell Cannon.

Rose Marie had been given a dollar to spend as the family headed out to do their Christmas shopping.

“And she died with that dollar in her hand," Louise Cannon, Russell's mother, said. "That's the most heartbreaking thing."

"He gave them the death sentence," she said of Ramirez.

But it wasn’t only Ramirez who did that. Ramirez had been deported before, but there he was back again. The failure to enforce i*********n l*ws separated Rose Marie forever from her family.

America is full of angel dad and moms whose children were separated from them by i*****l a***ns.

Ray Tranchant was separated forever from his 16-year-old daughter Tessa, when Alfredo Ramos, a drunk i*****l a***n, slammed into the back of their car.

"My idea of heaven", Tessa had written in her journal, "is a nonstop vacation on a tropical island … all the people I love would be there with me."

Ray Tranchant has been fighting to prevent other American families from being separated from their child.

And he’s not alone.

The victims are all around us. These are only a handful of their stories. They are members of every race and religion. Some were born in this country and others came here as legal immigrants.

We have a choice to make.

Either we can detain i*****l m*****ts crossing the border or we can let them all in. We can take the Merkel way out and hope that the family that pays the price for illegal migration isn’t our own.

There are no apologies or excuses necessary for detaining i*****l a***ns who illegally cross the border. Even if we set aside minor matters like national sovereignty and the rule of law, the stories of these murdered children provide ample justification for arresting every single i*****l m*****t.

Either we separate i*****l m*****ts from this country. Or they will go on brutally tearing families apart. And if we allow them to use children as human shields, then American children will pay the price.

President Trump has called the media the “enemy of the American people.” It’s not just the enemy. Its manicured hands are covered in the blood of American men, women and children. The media advocates for drug dealers, for Islamic terrorists and for i*****l a***ns. The more Americans they k**l, the more the media cheers them on. The media’s lies aren’t just tearing apart the country, they’re k*****g children.
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Add to that the diseases the i******s are bringing into this country, as they are given free travel to other States without health checks or ID checks but you better believe they get Welfare checks!!
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Jun 21, 2018 20:46:30   #
no propaganda please wrote:
The Most Important Issue on Immigration, and Nobody is Talking About It
Larry CraigJune 11, 2018


Yes, the United States is a nation of immigrants, but are we to understand by that that the United States is just the lowest common denominator of all those people, a harmonious blending of all the nations and cultures of the world.

Or, is there a particular culture that defines us as a nation and that we are supposed to teach this culture to our immigrants, and they are expected to assimilate to it to become an American?

The American experiment is based on a level of human rights and freedom unparalleled anywhere else in the world. Our Founders fought a war in order to be able to establish this country with the Constitution that is currently in place.

The basic idea for American freedom and rights is explained in our Declaration of Independence [please read this slowly]: “We hold these t***hs to be self-evident that all men are created equal (i.e. we don’t believe in kings, a ruling class), that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty,, and the pursuit of happiness – that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed — that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”

It is a safe assumption that no immigrant understands or believes these things when they come to our country. Why would they? The countries they come from don’t believe in them, and how would they know what we believe. We don’t even talk about this anymore.

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Many of our immigrants we already know will not agree with these beliefs. Islam, for example, had been in existence for 1,000 years prior to the founding of our country, and there is no Muslim country then or now in the world with a Constitution anything like ours. A Muslim would deny the whole premise of our Constitution.

We as a nation no longer talk about God-given rights, because we are told that any mention of God constitutes an unconstitutional endorsement of religion. So when millions of immigrants v**e in our e******ns and have no idea of or belief in what it is that makes the United States what it is, we will eventually lose the freedoms we fought a war to gain.

This won’t happen suddenly, but gradually as more and more people v**e according to their understanding of rights and not according to our Founders. I dare say we don’t even teach these to our own children, given the hostility to anything having to do with God in our public schools.

We are losing our nation. Without a war, without a revolution, without anyone even noticing it.

Is this really what we want to do?

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author and are not not necessarily either shared or endorsed by iPatriot.com.
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Meanwhile the white population of this country has a greater death rate than birth rate so we will not be around in a few generations or at least be a vastly smaller percentage of the people in this country. And the black population is aborting more children than it births, which when added to the higher death rate means that there will be no African Americans in even less time than the w****s have. Things they are a'changing.
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May 27, 2018 15:29:45   #
whitnebrat wrote:
I guess it's time to congratulate you conservatives. You've accomplished some major wins. I may disagree with how you accomplished it, but you are winning. The country is definitely tilting to the right. The ship of state has taken a list to starboard, and I can't deny that.

You've won the battle.

There are a whole lot of new federal judges that will force conservative decisions for the next few decades.

You've destroyed the federal civil service requirements and allow cronyism to sneak back into the government workplace.

You've eliminated a raft of environmental regulations that mainly affect poor and minority communities.

The federal lands are now open to the 'thumper trucks' which search for oil.

The poultry and beef processing industry is having trouble finding enough people to work in the gruesome slaughterhouses that provide our steaks and rotisserie chicken.

Our water supplies are no longer being tested for harmful chemicals.

Employees of major corporations no longer have the ability to band together in class action lawsuits. Instead, they have to resort to private arbitration on a one-to-one basis which most cannot afford to do because of high legal fees.

Respect for the Department of Justice and the FBI has been eroded, which makes it more difficult for them to do their jobs and get cooperation from the population.

You've defanged the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was showing signs of actually holding companies accountable when they committed fraud against their customers.

China and Russia are doing major deals with the rest of the world that we've retreated from. China is estimated to be ahead of in Artificial Intelligence within a decade, and their companies are quietly acquiring American firms. And to do business in China, our companies have to partner with a Chinese firm, which mandates intellectual property t***sfers and eliminates our technological edge.

Yep, you're winning. You're accomplishing the decline of the United States as a world power. We've alienated our European allies and degraded the relations with our Asian partners.

You're achieving your goal of taking the country back to the late nineteenth century, which was isolationist, r****t, h********c, mysogenistic, religiously bigoted and the realm of the big industrialists (the Robber Barons.) A truly worthy goal, if you don't know what life back then was like.

I wish you well. I'm old enough that I probably won't see the end result of all this. I'm glad of that, but I fear for the younger generations and the quality of life that they will inherit.

Congratulations, you've won the present battle. But long term, you've lost the war, and our country is much the worse for that. If you prevail, that great experiment called democracy will fail.

Make America Great Again! NOT!
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Total perversion of the t***h. Liberals have totally lost the ability to think straight, to use facts and logic. Everything is true to them if it fits the agenda and false if it does not. I used to pity them because it seems they were just ignorant but now I believe they are truly evil. They really do want to destroy this country and put everyone in bondage to the government (literal or financial bondage it seems not to matter so long as free will is taken away).

I could show you your errors point by point but a lot of what you write is not fact; it is opinion. Driven by your point of view. However when you decry conservatism as bad I celebrate it because I KNOW that conservatism is what made this country great. I KNOW that the opposite of conservatism is socialism, N**ism, c*******m, f*****m; all traits that are included in the Democratic Party platform and practiced with enthusiasm by the followers of that truly evil (that's is a fact not an opinion) organization.

I hope you are right and the country is moving toward a better direction. If it does it will be despite you and the other useful i***ts and because the country has had enough of the Obama years and is ready for a meaningful change. That does not mean I agree with the present administration in all it does and I especially am disgusted in the Republican Congress because it has not realized that things are changing and wants to continue the Progressive movement, the corruption and the lies. If Congress could just get on board and become true conservatives we could once again show the world what a free Republic can do.
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May 27, 2018 11:06:23   #
moldyoldy wrote:
We are concerned with the optimal climate for mankind


The terms we all use are pejorative. That exposes our biases. When you call me a C*****e C****e Denier it is meant to wound, not to educate or convince. Using that term will get you absolutely nowhere but I expect that is your intent; you only want to lash out because I don't agree with you. There can be no honest discussion.

I am not a Denier, I am a Skeptic. I wait for the facts. I search them out. I do my own research. If a politician or bureaucrat who we all must agree could not tell the t***h if his life depended on it, tells me something, I will always check it out before I put any trust in what he says. It does not mean I will not come around and agree; but I cannot be forced.

Those who call me a denier, I would call Climate Warming Fanatics. Can you see that using words is a powerful way to get an argument across without actually making an argument? Facts be damned; if I can abuse you or denigrate you to the point that your opinion is dismissed because you are not a "nice" person I win!
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May 26, 2018 22:29:01   #
moldyoldy wrote:
Some people and countries care about c*****e c****e.


Because they are ignorant of facts, science and common sense.
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May 26, 2018 22:26:49   #
alabuck wrote:
For those of you who want to bring God into your sanctimonious circle jerk about a******n, let me enlighten you to exactly what God’s Word says regarding when it’s acceptable to cause an a******n.

Numbers 5:11-29 New International Version (NIV)

“11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

“16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

“23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

“29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband,”
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Now, I ask you: where in this passage of GOD’S WORD are the feelings of the wife taken into account? No one even asks her whether or not she’s guilty or innocent. No one asks the husband why he feels she’s been unfaithful. His jealousy, alone, can be proof enough to bring his wife up on charges of infidelity.

Even if she is found guilty and the poison has caused her belly to swell and the baby to be aborted, where is the logic you “Christians” claim that a******n is “murder” and disallowed by God, Himself? In fact, God claims that this is the right and proper thing to do, toward punishing the wife for being unfaithful.

Where is God’s “love” here, for the innocent and unborn baby, you all so sanctimoniously claim to defend? Where is the example of God you’re claiming to follow? I’m not seeing the first example of it here.

Then, to follow suit, once the child is born, where is your “Christian love and charity” when it comes to helping the child grow and be nurtured? You’re too busy, by then, to be bothered. Plus, you’re not willing to give any monies toward helping the child, either. Why not? Aren’t we tasked, by Jesus, with helping the poor and needy? Aren’t we told by Him to sell all we have and give it to the poor?

You bunch of self-centered hypocrites! You speak about God’s Word, yet have no clue as to what it is or how to live it, yourselves. May God have mercy on your souls! You’ll need every bit He gives you, plus some more.

For those of you who say we are a “Christian nation” and should enforce “God’s laws as our own,” given this “test of an unfaithful woman” are you still certain you’d want to live under a Christian theocracy? Are you and your family members so pure of heart and deed that you don’t fear your own “testing?” You detest Islam and Sharia Law, yet you haven’t read your own Bibles to know the punishments that await those who sin against God, their parents, their rulers, and the priests.

You better pull the logs from your own eyes before you tell others about the splinters in theirs.
BTW, I’m a minister of the Gospel. I just happen to know that God’s grace, forgiveness, love and charity are more important to my salvation than condemning others whose plights you know nothing of, yet judge against.
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What an out-of-context, out-of-date and evil post. A priest supporting a******n? The quotes are for a specific condition that at the time was an acceptable reason to break the Do Not K**l commandment. I saw nothing in there to support a******n on demand or the use of MY MONEY to pay for it. A******n is murder. Maybe at times justified but not for convenience.

Mankind is spinning around the drain.
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May 24, 2018 20:52:06   #
lpnmajor wrote:
A******ns are at an all time low. How about paying attention to the kids that are born already, or don't they count? It's people like you that make everyone sick.

How about we insist on saving ALL children? Naw, that'd be boring.


That is cowsh*t (g****r neutral) and you know it. The people who are most to blame are the ones who want everyone dependent on government, on welfare, unarmed, threatened by gangs, i*****l a***ns, to pay high taxes, high charges for services that used to be free or very cheap, want regulations that decrease job opportunities, who push the g****l w*****g panic button, support unions that cost the businesses and their customers more, want no borders to further reduce the job opportunities and wages, attack the police and military, want global government to further reduce our income and threaten our futures, support a******n on demand, drug use, Obamacare, job k*****g, income destroying and immoral behavior, want Bernie Sanders to be President (God help us all) and much more insanity that is the real reason why children are in danger. None of these actions are started or supported by conservatives. None of the things you infer are causing children to be poor or in danger are the result of ANY action by conservatives, it is ALL due to the evil, blood-sucking c*******t Democrats and Progressives (which includes many RINOS).

Conservatism is the ONLY thing that can save this nation. If you cannot see that you are beyond hope.
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May 22, 2018 10:50:35   #
working class stiff wrote:
Mistaken on two counts:

One, we don't need to build a wall. If Americans citizens would not hire i*****l a***ns there would be no draw for 'wetbacks' or gravel bellies.
Two, liberals would not be there with out stretched arms if the i******s don't come because we are not hiring them.

The reason liberals have sympathy for the i*****l a***ns is because we know that they are being used and abused by supposedly upstanding American citizens. Go after the criminals who hire them if you want to put a dent in the migration. I see no outrage by conservatives against these American lawbreakers.
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Again with the baseless attacks on conservatives. I am a conservative and I don't employ wetbacks and I don't know any conservative businessman who supports employing wetbacks. If they do, they are not conservative, simply by definition. Conservatives would shun any fellow conservative that did so. On the other hand, Liberals have no scruples and do not follow the law so why not assume that those who employ wetbacks are Liberals? That would make more sense.
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But the NRA does have quite a large influence in DC to protect its gun-selling businesses by buying congress people.

The difference is that Republicans state that they believe in life in the womb but do nothing to help the fetus after birth. Better not to be born than to live a life of poverty and bias under conditions where the family cannot support this extra expense. Only the mother should be able to make judgment on this. It is the post birth conditions that the mother takes into consideration and Righties do not. It is they who are pulling back on moneys spent on education and social network agencies. Their philosophy is "Save the fetus but to hell with the person."
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I have heard this said but where is the proof? Who pays the taxes that support these kids after they go home with their single Mom? Because the Libs have done their evil best to destroy families so that Moms find it hard to manage? Look at the facts and you will see that the Conservatives pay the most taxes because they make the most money due to their work ethic and desire to do the right thing by their families, that they take responsibility for and do not ask for welfare to do so. They don't spend their days doing drugs and ripping off the system like Liberals so which group is actually supporting the single Moms and their kids? Not the Liberals that is for sure. And why are the Moms single? Because their deadbeat men will not step up and do what a real man would do. And are those deadbeat men conservative? Hell no.

The money poured in to support the single Moms and the kids is a source of graft and corruption; little of that money goes where it should it is skimmed off by, look closely, the Liberals! The masters of s**m and theft.

Sure there are some bad conservatives who also get on the Government teat but the majority of the scum are Liberals and they are the ones you should scorn.
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