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Nov 21, 2014 21:15:11   #
tdsrnest wrote:
The cold hard facts dating back to Esinhower the GOPTP has been issuing EO and immigration bills for amnesty. But they fight any kind of legislation to shut it down. Then when a democrat gets in office they fight any kind of legislation to shut down the border. Any legislation over the last 50 years to shut down that border the republicans fight. The reason there saying Obama overreached is because his EO includes adding security to shut down the border. Also a lot of what Obama is doing is following GOPTP laws that never got funded.They are going to have a hard time proving this bill is amnesty because there is none. Reagan/Bush/Bush all signed amnesty.

But the GOPTP will fight and block any legislation that will shut that border because there corporate elite will go nuts because they will loose there low wage earners.

Reagan had the original policy in his immigration reform to go after corporation that hire i******s but the GOPTP would not fund any agency to chase this practice down.

But there blame game had been working for years. But Obama with the bully pulpit is going to expose there hypocracy. The GOPTP is stuck in the mud now. Because there corporate donors will go nuts if they shut it down. Obama was brilliant today. He will expose them.
The cold hard facts dating back to Esinhower the G... (show quote)


Is it the American "corporate elite" to blame for being a magnet to i*****l i*********n, or is it the deteriorating democracy south of the border and the ongoing civil war?
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Nov 21, 2014 21:12:34   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Yes it's true, I've seen the research...
a sudden shift in the slightest of magnetic poles, planetary alignment, gravitational anomally, and the Jet Stream gets whacked...

g****l w*****g is bi product of the STUPID UN and Agenda 21 correct ?


Yes. right you are. The socialist/c*******t driven United Nations Agenda 21 literally wants a New World Order, seizing any and every alibi to advance international power over energy supplies, armaments, and annexations of land under the guise of "civil rights," and the persecution of "handicapped peoples."

President Obama has signed on to some of this Agenda, but it does not constitute a "treaty" without Congressional approval. Thank God we still have a Constitution.
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Nov 21, 2014 20:58:13   #
ninetogo wrote:
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tdsrnest:

You should direct your anger at the Democrat majority in the US House and Senate from the last two years of the Bush Administration until 2010. You should be asking WHY did Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid not draft an all inclusive immigration bill during the period of time while the Democrats controlled the US House, the Senate and the Administration? Why this sense of urgency now, other that the e******n results of 2010 and 2014, where Democrats lost the House and now the Senate.

Is the black v****g block, that solidly supported the Democrat party for the past 50 years, possibly seeing a fly in the ointment? Are they beginning to realize that the Democrat party has used them and now is singing sweet nothings into the ear of a larger minority group?
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Absolutely, for 50% of the Black adult population remains unemployed, considering that we actually have 90 million Americans unemployed or under-employed who have completely fallen off the radar. It was Obama's strategic political move to announce amnesty AFTER the November e******ns.

The B****s aint that dumb, guys, they helped push the Republican Party over the top of the Senate and House this November for one reason: JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.
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Nov 21, 2014 20:52:14   #
Hemiman wrote:
I guess that means something to you but I don't know what the hell you are talking about.


Hemiman, Bad Bob was referring to the fact that Mitt Romney is a Mormon, and the custom of traditional LDS - Later Day Saints' dress is long underwear, (women, more often than men adhere to this custom) something akin to the Puritans vow to chastidy nearly two centuries ago.

Of course, Bad Bob is ignorant of the fact that the Democrat party's Senate Pro-Temp, Harry Reid, is also a Mormon.

Bad Bob cannot find anything constructive to say, so he is pitching religious insults.
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Nov 21, 2014 20:38:58   #
DennisDee wrote:
I don't want him impeached. I want him to continue destroying the Dem Party.


Yes, indeed.
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Nov 21, 2014 20:35:32   #
dabende wrote:
Sorry, but I disagree.

The a typical low information Democrat v**er has been proven to know very little about Government, the Constitution, and the USA in general, barring of course "Gaming" and "Hollywood"!

Republicans on the other hand have scored much better!


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Nov 21, 2014 20:34:21   #
3jack wrote:
Do you mean the allen west who was kicked from the US Army, the same one who was rejected by his tea party district on his second run for Congress for being too stupid, the same one who believes that the Senate is infested with c*******t? If I were you, I wouldn't use his name to support anything I post.


Hello Jack,
Not actually, The Tea Part is one of Lt. Col. Allen West's biggest backers, where West's GUARDIAN FUND helped nearly a dozen Republican candidates win seats in the House and Senate.

As for his "v****g district" in Florida not supporting him during his second bid for Congress, we need to consider that the State gerrymandered his home district out of existence, removing his local supporters just before his second bid for office.

Liberals panic when an outspoken Black Conservative literally smacks down his political opposition with such an articulate grasp of their hypocrisy and unbridled snobbery.

If you want to read up on the socialist infestation of the White House, Senate and House, get a copy of Loudon's book "The Enemy Within" for the expose of your life on the Students For Democrat Society and their terrorists infiltration of government.
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Nov 21, 2014 20:23:39   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Or whacked ?


Please take a look at my response to DennisDee 10 seconds ago about g****l c*****g.
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Nov 21, 2014 20:21:11   #
DennisDee wrote:
These fools don't deserve to live in a democracy. The wish it was some African dictatorship like Idi Amin had.
and previously, DennisDee wrote: "Secure the borders before discussing any amnesty."

Yes, this is what the Republicans have demanded. Now, let me play devil's advocate here. What if we are missing some of the facts behind the President's brazen actions?

What if G****l w*****g is a real h**x and the President knows this? What if John L. Casey's predictions in "Dark Winter" are right on, a massive 30-40 year mini-ice age has been progressing since 2010 when the global temperature average plunged to 1* Centigrade (or 3* F) and the Jet Stream is advancing further and further south?

What if the President is trying to stymie a mass migration south, fully aware that the immigration tide is going to be reversing itself with millions of Americans stampeding across to Mexico, Panama and Belize?

Just, what if ???
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Nov 21, 2014 11:21:33   #
tdsrnest wrote:

...1986 passed and signed by Reagan called the (Immigration and Reform Act) as you can see this bill has not worked because it did not address the main talking point by the GOPTP SHUT THE BORDER DOWN... But the IRCA. Of 1986 created amnesty for approximately 2.7 million undocumented immigrants. But not a word about impeachment shut down the government no just two parties working together for a solution.

In 1986 the IRAC almost immediately the border crossing went down by 11% but the following year it went right back up and higher numbers crossing the border than ever and this continued for the next 34 years and never got addressed.

S. 744 senate immigration bill passed with a 68 to 32 in the senate proposes significant changes and addresses the failure of the Reagan bill.

But Obama is going to sign that EO and I don't blame him... Man-Turned god Reagan used his EO on immigration. He signed the IRCA in 1986 that granted 2.5 i******s amnesty. And gave them a path to actual citizenship if they lived in the US for 4 years.

So I ask what is the difference between Reagan/Bush/Bush and Obama
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The difference is that past presidents acted within the law by signing BILLS initiated in CONGRESS, not via Executive Order because Congress would not pass a bill to Obama's liking. What has happened to the checks and balances of power laid out in our Constitution?

Take a look at Lt. Col. Allen West's response to President Obama's amnesty grants:
http://conservativetribune.com/allen-west-impeachment/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzEmail&utm_content=936184&utm_campaign=0
Allen West Drops Bombshell About Obama Impeachment [VIDEO]
Obama’s plan to grant i*****l i*******ts amnesty has left many people angry and frustrated — including former Congressman Allen West.
In a recent interview with Newsmax, the outspoken West announced that Obama’s amnesty action could be the final straw that gets him impeached.
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Nov 20, 2014 21:47:52   #
Docadhoc wrote:
God knew all about man and what man would do, before He created man.

What concerns me is that God gave man free will. God intended man to choose wisely. Man is choosing to play God. God said "no other Gods before me". I have to believe that man will wake up before it is too late. Since God knew the outcome of his creation of man, before He created man, why would He proceed with the creation if it was doomed to die of sin? It must be that God knows that in time, man will get it right. I hope.
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This sounds very rational. I hope so, too. There doesn't seem to be any proof of it yet.
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Nov 20, 2014 21:41:23   #
Docadhoc wrote:
I think China, if left to its own devices, is self limiting. But, as it seems to be the U.S. habit, we probably will provide wh**ever China needs to continue on their present path. Obama will do wh**ever he can to assist a country who would like nothing better than to see the U.S.slide to 2nd world status. I dislike feeliing this way but it appears to me that our president is more concerned with the well being of our enemies and antagonists, than about our own citizenry.


Yes, I would agree. What President Obama does not realize is that any man who would ens***e another race, will ens***e his own - too lazy or too arrogant to work, waving his PhD in the wind.
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Nov 20, 2014 21:35:40   #
BigMike wrote:
Did the title throw you? :lol: I ordered it from Amazon after a friend recommended it to me. Reading it for the 3rd time now. There's just too much to absorb. The point of the title is that the climate is always changing and there's nothing we can do about it. The book lays out the history of c*****e c****e since the last great ice age and the indisputable evidence of it and that, as you say, c*****e c****e is cyclic in nature, and while we can see that c*****e c****e is cyclic, we have very little understanding why it changes.
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Yes, Casey speaks of 206 year Sun hibernation cycles. But he also points out that earth is way overdue for an Ice Age. Ice ages last approximately 100,000 years with a 10,000 year warming cycle in between. Having already enjoyed 11,000 years of warmth, we face the possibility of a far greater temperature drop than either the Dalton or Maunder Minimums.
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Nov 20, 2014 21:17:28   #
tdsrnest wrote:
The last time an immigration bill has been passed was in 1986 by Ronald Reagan. Now we had Bush 41 4 years, Bush 43, 8 years with a number of years where the GOPTP had complete control over congress and did nothing.

1986 passed and signed by Reagan called the ( Immigration and Reform Act) as you can see this bill has not worked because it did not address the main talking point by the GOPTP SHUT THE BORDER DOWN.
But the IRCA. Of 1986 created amnesty for approximately 2.7 million undocumented immigrants.the senate proposes significant changes and addresses the failure of the Reagan bill...

Now none of the Reagan/Bush/Bush bills, Acts, EO ever addressed shutting down the border completely Obamas S. 744 does and no road to amnesty until the border is secure....
So I ask what is the difference between Reagan/Bush/Bush and Obama
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The difference is very simple. The 1986 Immigration and Reform Act was a bill written by Congress and signed by President Ronald Reagan. We can debate its merits until the cows come home, BUT IT DID ORIGINATE as a legitimate BILL crafted by Congress first.

Contrary, President Obama's Executive Orders tonight are BEYOND the Constitutional powers granted the Executive Branch. President Obama cannot assume such authority to act merely because Congress will not act.

He had the audacity to cite the example of some poor little i*****l a***n who had been subsidized ALL THE WAY THROUGH COLLEGE who was afraid to return to Mexico for her grandmother's funeral for fear of deportation.

If this young woman was such a budding little genius, why didn't she do things the right way?

Why didn't she FIRST return to Mexico, take a job in Mexico, save up her own money to fund college in America, and then apply for a student visa, like the other 2 million foreigners who come to the States legally every year?

Oh, we have now advanced from ROYAL BLOOD, to Genetic Superiority, to Intellectual Superiority? What ever happened to equal protection under the law?
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Nov 20, 2014 01:00:43   #
alex wrote:
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Good evening, Alex. Who could resist that one?
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