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Sep 13, 2017 09:24:03   #
Doc110 wrote:
Morgan,

I believe it is You and the Liberal Regressive Left Democrats that are . . . misinformed on V**er ID Law . . .

A great video interview which exposes the White liberal view-point an their ideology and typical r****t stereotype hypocrisy . . .

How the White C****e left think about Black people.
https://bampac.nationbuilder.com/whatliberalsthink?recruiter_id=35274&l=2





I wasn't talking about v**er ID was I, more of not reading what was written, a common practice here with you people...and if anyone is regressive it's the backwardly moving right.
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Sep 13, 2017 09:21:06   #
Doc110 wrote:
Wolfie,

I believe it is You and the Left that are stupid . . .

A great video interview which exposes the White liberal view-point an their ideology hypocrisy . . .

How the White C****e left think about Black people.
https://bampac.nationbuilder.com/whatliberalsthink?recruiter_id=35274&l=2




This is not how the left thinks it is slanted propaganda to try and get b****s to move to the right.

Black America's Political Action Committee (BAMPAC) supports conservative policies and African-American candidates. Its name misleadingly suggests that it represents the point of view of African-Americans, but in fact opinion polls and v****g patterns show that the vast majority of African-Americans disagree with BAMPAC's political positions.

BAMPAC claims to be nonpartisan, but its IRS tax statement explicitly states that its mission is to elect Republicans
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Sep 13, 2017 09:06:26   #
Super Dave wrote:
If the right to v**e was in the Bill of Rights, what good would it do us if it was given the same lack of respect that Democrats and RINOs give the current Bill of Rights?

If the right to v**e was equal to the right to the right to petition the government, the right to bear arms, the right to exercise one's religion, the right to due process, and the right of the states and the people to hold all power not specifically given to the feds, what freaking good would that do?

The best way to make rights more available is to limit the power of the only force that can take them away. The government.

How about if we put the right to v**e and the right to life both in the constitution. Would you go along with that?
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Super Dave: There is no documented rights that can overcome corrupt leaders. This is incorrect there are laws to impeach or relieve representatives.
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Sep 13, 2017 09:03:23   #
Super Dave wrote:
Part of the purpose of forming America as a Republic was to insure a diversity of people are empowered, not just the majority.

This is a principal Democrats used to stand for. Now, there is no diversity allowed.

Democrats now have to fall completely in line with socialized medicine, GWA, a******n, gay rights, and now T*********ring, in order to remain a part of the party.

Do you really think this is a healthy change?




That argument was a matter of opinion and as in ideologies, they prove to be not so ideal when hit with reality, especially once it has been enabled to corruption.

As far as diversity it is included when every v**e counts. Democrats most certainly still believe in diversity much more than conservatism, who wants everyone to file in and be a norm.

Your comment on "no diversity allowed" is an opinion formed by slanted information because it is simply untrue, this is seen every day in their protest of equal rights to

people of "all" kinds. Which tends to upsets the right.
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Sep 13, 2017 08:44:46   #
Super Dave wrote:
If the right to v**e was in the Bill of Rights, what good would it do us if it was given the same lack of respect that Democrats and RINOs give the current Bill of Rights?

If the right to v**e was equal to the right to the right to petition the government, the right to bear arms, the right to exercise one's religion, the right to due process, and the right of the states and the people to hold all power not specifically given to the feds, what freaking good would that do?

There is no documented rights that can overcome corrupt leaders.

The best way to make rights more available is to limit the power of the only force that can take them away. The government.

How about if we put the right to v**e and the right to life both in the Constitution. Would you go along with that?
If the right to v**e was in the Bill of Rights, wh... (show quote)




Looks like I'm more of constitutionist than you are Dave, as I still believe in our Constitution and Bill of Rights and our governing process, which "is" our government. What I see as the problem is not enforcing some of our laws, especially in fraud. When did lying become so acceptable and allowable? If Journalist and representatives had a consequence to lying we wouldn't be in this muck we are in now, which has undermined all the trust of the people and in our own capability to make a good critical judgment/decision on issues and our representatives.
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Sep 13, 2017 08:30:14   #
lindajoy wrote:
We wil agree to disagree.. Your arguements are moot and incorrect.. Be that as it may you certainly have your right to believe anything you want..

Who said the will of the people is a mob other than you right here.??. Although it's nice to see you give concession to the majority voice.. And how is that majority voice heard ??



How kind of you...thank you, me being correct or incorrect is a matter of opinion isn't it. If my comment to mob rule is unfamiliar to you, may I suggest some reading back to the time of the creation of e*******l college v**e and still used as an argument today. The majority voice for our POTUS was and is not being presently heard, and the majority voice didn't win in our last e******n or in 2000.
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Sep 13, 2017 08:13:10   #
byronglimish wrote:
Steve Martin joked "the death penalty for parking violation's" ...but let me ask... would society be safer if the old ten commandments were to be returned to the letter of the law??? and the due penalty carried out???


The only penalty from the ten commandments was the law of God which was to not be allowed to enter heaven when you died, didn't mention incarceration or the death penalty. The ten commandments was/is a state of good consciousness to do the right thing.
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Sep 13, 2017 07:58:43   #
Tomtrout wrote:
The black community should pay r********n to those families whose ancestors that were k**led in the Union army fighting to eliminate s***ery and freedom for B****s.




You want the black man to pay the white man for freeing him from the chains he put him in, yeah that makes sense.
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Sep 12, 2017 23:18:24   #
lindajoy wrote:
My point in suggesting the reading in totality instead of just some..All examples of the SCOTUS to uphold our " right and priveldge of v****g.."

We did not grant our forming Federalist the right to abrogate our v**e and although not specifically granted in the Constitution it is not denied in it either.. Pain staking measures have always been to protect the right of v**e, not deny it..

There is not a politician around that would move to strip that right unless they wanted immediate ousting...

Suffice it to say the Twenty-third, Twenty-fourth, and Twenty-sixth amendments gave representation to the District of Columbia, forbid poll taxes, and lowered the v****g age to 18, respectively. The passage of each of these Amendments reflected a shift towards making v****g a right of all citizens, and indeed a fundamental part of citizenship....

Four of the fifteen post-Civil War constitutional amendments were ratified to extend v****g rights to different groups of citizens. These extensions state that v****g rights cannot be denied or abridged based on the following: "Race, color, or previous condition of servitude"..

Ratified on August 18, 1920, the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution granted American women the right to v**e—a right known as woman suffrage...

The US Constitution stated in Amendment XV, which was ratified by the states in 1870: "Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to v**e shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color Etccc..

Let's not forget the Bil of Rights either..
Much has changed since the original writing.. Almost a third of the amendments added to the Constitution after the Bill of Rights was ratified concern the ability to v**e...
My point in suggesting the reading in totality ins... (show quote)


You assume what I read and didn't read, I selected a piece I found interesting and pertinent. I read it all and your points address other issues on how we can v**e, why we v**e, what our v**e means, how the government enables us to v**e freely, but all these things still do not address my point, which is we as citizens get to choose who represents us in government and that in turn represents everything that a democracy aspires to be. Yet these ideals are NOT reflected in the Constitution by an absolute right to v**e.

Instead, state governments can enact their own v****g laws which can vary drastically, as they have in the past trying to prevent people from v****g and the federal government had to step in and supersede them by creating new amendments.

The will of the people is not a mob rule it is the majority voice.
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Sep 12, 2017 09:43:56   #
lindajoy wrote:
My point in suggesting the reading in totality instead of just some..All examples of the SCOTUS to uphold our " right and priveldge of v****g.."

We did not grant our forming Federalist the right to abrogate our v**e and although not specifically granted in the Constitution it is not denied in it either.. Pain staking measures have always been to protect the right of v**e, not deny it..

There is not a politician around that would move to strip that right unless they wanted immediate ousting...

Suffice it to say the Twenty-third, Twenty-fourth, and Twenty-sixth amendments gave representation to the District of Columbia, forbid poll taxes, and lowered the v****g age to 18, respectively. The passage of each of these Amendments reflected a shift towards making v****g a right of all citizens, and indeed a fundamental part of citizenship....

Four of the fifteen post-Civil War constitutional amendments were ratified to extend v****g rights to different groups of citizens. These extensions state that v****g rights cannot be denied or abridged based on the following: "Race, color, or previous condition of servitude"..

Ratified on August 18, 1920, the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution granted American women the right to v**e—a right known as woman suffrage...

The US Constitution stated in Amendment XV, which was ratified by the states in 1870: "Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to v**e shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color Etccc..

Let's not forget the Bil of Rights either..
Much has changed since the original writing.. Almost a third of the amendments added to the Constitution after the Bill of Rights was ratified concern the ability to v**e...
My point in suggesting the reading in totality ins... (show quote)


Yes, I am fully aware of our amendments, yet as it stands now we have the privilege and opportunity to v**e within the good graces of our state government who allows us this privilege, which (through amendments)can not disallow our v**e due to the reason of discrimination. I'll standby what I said, it should be written clearly in our Constitution, and part of our framework the "right" of every American citizen.
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Sep 12, 2017 08:32:46   #
Bevos wrote:
That's what I mean!!! He is admitting, that the only way a Democrat can win is if the Republicans "screw up"!!! And you are "right", it is true!!!


You do realize he's referring to the underhanded tactics being fallible.
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Sep 12, 2017 08:26:33   #
lindajoy wrote:
You learned wrong then~~The article you quote is only a very small partial opinion from a blog site that fails to address the issue in totality..
"There is a state right to v**e regardless of the lacking Federa law to v**e..Our v****g system some 13,000 "separate and unequal" e******n jurisdictions - is based on the legal foundation of states' rights and local control." Each of us has a "state right" to v**e based on that state's laws and those state v**es compromise the eventual e*****rate v**e that places the final v**e represented by the state itself..

An individual citizen may not have a federal right clearly defined in the original writings but does by amendment or decision and they certainly do under state law..
Thus and why we are a Republic and not a democracy... Using the word democracy or democratic principal will not change the fact that' we are a Republic and our v****g system itself confirms such...

Like removing the statues of history will not change history trying to imply we are ruled under a democratic mandate will not change that we are a Republic no matter how much you try.. If our Constitution was to be a democracy it would have so stated instead of stating it is a Republic. It does not say we are a democracy does it??

Just like this controversy over State Ids being at the discretion of the state; it is the state that has jurisdiction not the Feds.."V****g is a right, but it is also a privilege....

Also since v****g is a fundamental part our constitutional Republic, and many died for our rights it is a fundamental right regardless of lacking as a federal mandate..

Finally when looking at the Supreme Court rulings they are conctantly consistent with that " fundamental right of v****g.. ~ think State law requirement of ID and the challenges..
Or better yet think:
"The V****g Rights Act of 1965, a landmark piece of federal legislation in the United States that prohibits racial discrimination in v****g.[7][8] It was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson during the height of the Civil Rights Movement on August 6, 1965, and Congress later amended the Act five times to expand its protections.[7] Designed to enforce the v****g rights guaranteed by the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution, the Act secured v****g rights for racial minorities throughout the country, especially in the South. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, the Act is considered to be the most effective piece of civil rights legislation ever enacted in the country.[9]

Anyway when you read the entire intent of v****g it does have many implied decisions of constitutional redress that when challenged go before the Supreme Court for opinion and it is always upheld favorably to the citizen(s).

So cheer up you do have and always will have your v**e..A good thing too..
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No I don't believe I am wrong.The fact remains we don't have a written agreement with our right to v**e, it is implied which really is unenforceable, an implied agreement leaves us as a people completely vulnerable to the whims who take office, especially if they choose to ride roughshod over us. The fact is, it is not in our Constitution, as it should be in order to give us all the same protections over the entire country, and this should be addressed and rectified, because of this, no you can't say "you will always have your v**e" you don't know that, unless of course, you have the powers to predict the future?

I also don't see a state document which expresses that right. Maybe you can show me that also. The v****g rights act in 65 is to protect against discrimination but doesn't protect our actual right to v**e.

You may think a republic is the absolute best way, but this decision wasn't in full agreement with a unanimous v**e at the time either. The e*******l v**e leaves us at a certain mercy of not how the majority of the people feel, nor to validate every v**e to count, it has also now been corrupted by gerrymandering, especially with key states. I see this bothered you also in the e******n of Obama, feeling many military v**es were unaccounted for, which is making my point. The e*******l v**es are also at this time, out of balance and need to be recalibrated.

Not having our rights clearly stated in the Constitution, equates to not reading the fine print in a contract, and when the time comes, you can get screwed. "Implied" means s**te.
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Sep 11, 2017 22:40:26   #
Super Dave wrote:
It's the Constitution. Not liking it doesn't change it.

There are a lot of freedoms and rights that I wish were more explicit in Constitution.

They're are also some rights and freedoms that are explicitly in the Constitution that I would like to put in a second time to see if that would keep Democrats from ignoring them.

Currently anyone eligible to v**e that wants to v**e can v**e. That right is not currently being demied while the rights to life, bear arms, and freedom of speech and religion are being trampled on a daily basis.

Where is your sorrow over those rights being destroyed?
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I haven't seen any rights to bear arms trampled in any way shape or form, guns rights and what is legally allowed has expanded, allowing guns in churches, bars, and parks doesn't make me feel safer but that's where we are at this point. The country with the highest incidents of violent deaths and injuries than any other country, not including war-torn countries. People don't just own guns they now all have arsenals. Freedom of speech is still very much alive. A privilege to life is the choice of the woman who chooses to grow a person. Religion has more rights than ever.

But having a right to v**e versus a privilege prevents the government from taking that privilege away at their whim, for me that is paramount over guns.
One person can fight a goliath as the government under his rights in court, but if the US government comes after you militarily, no matter how many guns you have in your basement...you ain't gonna win my friend.
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Sep 11, 2017 22:24:34   #
Super Dave wrote:
If you are correct, as it seems, Republicans are even dumber than I thought.


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Sep 11, 2017 21:28:01   #
kemmer wrote:
Umm... How old are you? Ever hear of gerrymandering districts so Dem v**es virtually don't count? Making people who have v**ed for years go miles away to "re-register"?
Making long time v**ers go get new ID cards? Student photo IDs no good, but gun licenses are?
Gimme a break.


LOL good Ol Republican tactics
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