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Nov 24, 2014 00:46:46   #
Ricktloml wrote:
It was called the Dream Act, and it died on the SENATE floor, you know the Democrat controlled Senate. So YES Congress did legislate on immigration, just not the way our dictator wanted, so Obama MADE a law to suit himself, and EVERY American should be appalled when ANY president engages in the shredding of the Constitution that he took an oath to uphold. But then, since Obama is a serial liar with zero honor, the fact that he ignores his oath should surprise no one. It is hideous to see someone applaud executive overreach. But Hitler had his sycophants too, and look how well that worked out for the world
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Rick, you are right about the Executive Overreach on immigration reform, but keep in mind there was also overreach in his rewriting and postponing the implementation of the ACA bill until after the November e******n, and even allowing government and union employees to Opt Out through Executive Orders.

Watch this video of a rather Democrat liberal lawyer, Professor Turley hired by House Speaker John Boehner to bring a lawsuit against Obama for this executive overreach regarding Obamacare, the President destroying the checks and balances required by congressional input in the legislative process:

http://conservativetribune.com/house-lawyer-rips-obama/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzEmail&utm_content=936184&utm_campaign=0
Top Lawyer in House Lawsuit Rips Obama to Shreds in This Devastating Speech [VIDEO]
Saturday, November 22nd, 2014

"No one likes lawyers, but you may be able to make an exception for Jonathan Turley, who was recently hired by House Speaker John Boehner to go after the Obama administration based on Obama’s carelessness with the separation of powers – something the framers of the Constitution specifically crafted to prevent any one branch of government from wielding too much power....

He went as far as saying the problem has now reached a “tipping point” with Obama’s use of executive actions. Think about this for a minute. Here you have a high-powered lawyer with a very liberal history working with House Republicans to sue the president of the United States.

Just that sentence alone should throw up enough red f**gs to indicate that something is terribly wrong and frightening."
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Nov 23, 2014 21:01:46   #
Dummy Boy wrote:
I have....f**e documents...from non existent departments...is not evidence: garbage in, garbage out.


Here, DB, take a look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21
Agenda 21
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Author
United Nations

Publication date
April 23, 1993
Pages
300 pp
ISBN
978-92-1-100509-7

"Agenda 21 is a non-binding, voluntarily implemented action plan of the United Nations with regard to sustainable development.[1] It is a product of the UN Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED) held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, in 1992. It is an action agenda for the UN, other multilateral organizations, and individual governments around the world that can be executed at local, national, and global levels. The "21" in Agenda 21 refers to the 21st Century. It has been affirmed and modified at subsequent UN conferences.

Agenda 21's goal is to help the environment and was agreed at Rio Earth Summit in 1992. Local Agenda 21 is Agenda 21 on a local scale, a saying is "think globally act locally"

Agenda 21 is a 300-page document divided into 40 chapters that have been grouped into 4 sections:
Section I: Social and Economic Dimensions is directed toward combating poverty, especially in developing countries, changing consumption patterns, promoting health, achieving a more sustainable population, and sustainable settlement in decision making.

Section II: Conservation and Management of Resources for Development Includes atmospheric protection, combating deforestation, protecting fragile environments, conservation of biological diversity (biodiversity), control of pollution and the management of biotechnology, and radioactive wastes.

Section III: Strengthening the Role of Major Groups includes the roles of children and youth, women, NGOs, local authorities, business and industry, and workers; and strengthening the role of indigenous peoples, their communities, and farmers.

Section IV: Means of Implementation: implementation includes science, technology t***sfer, education, international institutions and financial mechanisms."

This thing is pitched here with a bucket of maple syrup. It coyly drips with passion and love for humanity and above all, Mother Earth, but it is a cruel h**x.

Most of the world's difficulties fighting poverty can be alliavated by promoting free markets and abolishing the Federal Reserve Board and world banks trading in this Inflationary Fiat that floods the world markets, propping up a century of dictatorships.

Instead of trading in the face value of national currencies that reflect the true value of their socialist catastrophes and deprived peoples, the world currencies rely upon American dollar and our labor under free markets to subsidize the continuance of their misery. Americans have been subsidizing socialist genocide through "Detente" since 1914 when Woodrow Wilson created the Federal Reserve Board and its banks.

Wake up America, shut down the Federal Reserve Board and turn off the Inflationary bubble machine.
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Nov 23, 2014 20:17:12   #
oldroy wrote:
So many people here avoid learning anything about Agenda 21 so I am taking parts out of an article I recently read so you won't need to read so much about what it is, at one sitting.

Origins of Agenda 21

The Club of Rome, a “think tank” composed of 75 industrialists, economists and heads of state, is best known for its 1972 book, Limits to Growth, which predicts a collapse of the world’s economy sometime in the 21st century. Limits to Growth attributes this future catastrophe to resource depletion, overpopulation and increased pollution.

“The common enemy of humanity is man,” according to the Club of Rome. “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of g****l w*****g, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…The real enemy then is humanity itself.” – From the Club of Rome’s “The First Global Revolution” p. 75, 1993...
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What's going on here with these statements: "the enemy of mankind is man" and "Limits to Growth" to curb the "future catastrophe to resource depletion, overpopulation and increased pollution" and "collapse of the world economy"?

If we keep in mind that Marx's "socialism" is the midpoint bridging capitalism's evolution into c*******m, then the Club of Rome is plotting a war to fight over the last scraps, even if an overabundance of wealth lay beneath our feet.

First, we were told we would run out of oil when the Saudi's went dry. That was half a century ago. Now the world is awash in oil, coal and gas.

Next, the Club of Rome now classifies this energy as "dirty energy" and socialists attempt to take it off the American market. They play human greed and envy to the hilt.

A new myth follows: We are running out of fresh water, even though it has been discovered recently that the Amazon River, and other major rivers, have duplicate parallel river systems 1000 feet beneath the surface of the land.

Even more interesting is the discovery that the ocean's waters did not arrive from icy comets striking earth, but rose up from beneath the earth's crust, trapped between the mantel as a solid H2O in the form of ring-woodite, a metamorphic rock formed under high pressure.

Friction between the slippage of the earth's crust above, and the mantel beneath, releases the solid H2O into a liquid water form, rising up through vents in the fault zones. Apparently, from seismologic records, they depict as much fresh water trapped under the Northern Hemisphere equivalent to the entire volume of all the world's oceans combined.

We do not suffer a world of depleted resources, we suffer a world of ens***ed men without the freedom to develop these resources.

Any society is "over populated" if the people are not responsible for themselves.

These Neo-mendelist flaunting PhDs, wish to wipe the slate clean of whom they determine to be "defective" humans. They are cranking a meat-grinder of endless wars. But first, this Club of Rome must go about conning the public into the belief we suffer "Over Population" and "limited resources."

Just don't take the bait, guys. Free people do not "over-populate," they balance their resource production with their prodigy production naturally. Most western civilizations have a "0"% population growth. We all know America takes in more immigrants, 2 million/year legally, and millions more illegally, than all other nations combined, so don't state we are overpopulating by birth rate.

That is not to say, America is exempt from slipping in its role as responsible citizenry with half our children today born out of wedlock. The Lefties plan to remedy this with socialized medicine as socialized death: a******ns, sterilizations, and euthanasia, voluntary - FDA approved! .
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Nov 23, 2014 19:13:10   #
Voice of Reason wrote:
I agree with what you said about education being important and the need to educate all. Given the fact that the public education system we currently have does not accomplish this, it seems obvious that major changes are required. To me, the simplest and best way to accomplish the goal would be to eliminate public schools and replace them with private schools and vouchers.


As long as the vouchers did not come with strings attached and government regulation.
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Nov 23, 2014 18:04:32   #
Voice of Reason wrote:
I don't agree with everything you've written here, but I do agree with the basic premise. Public schools in this country have proven they are incapable of educating our children and are an excessive drain on resources.

But, if you need yet another reason for eliminating them, just look at this guy. He was a teacher in Los Angeles who sexually abused dozens of children over several decades. All reports of his behavior were ignored for years until a photo tech at a local drugstore turned over photos he'd had processed there to police. He was sentenced to 25 years in prison. The school district, however, allowed him to retire and is paying his pension. The cost to the taxpayers for his crimes? $169,000,000.00 plus the cost of trial and incarceration...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/21/mark-berndt-_n_6200860.html
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/21/mark-berndt-_n_6200860.html
"Berndt was sentenced to 25 years in prison after pleading no contest to 23 counts of lewd conduct. He was able to avoid being fired after his arrest and retired from teaching with his pension....
They said they managed to uncover a dozen incidents involving Berndt between 1983 and 2009, even though the school district had purged thousands of child abuse reports and logs that had been maintained for decades."

Because of the teacher's unions, it is virtually impossible to fire bad teachers, the lawsuits are so expensive, most school districts don't have the money to prosecute, and simply shuffle the bad teachers round about.

When a Washington DC school principal complained about these problems on a Radio talk-show, he was eventually fired by the DC School Board.

Worse, where were the parents to back up this school principal? Oh, right. The children arrived by stork. The Pied Piper has come to take the children. This is precisely why less than 7% of the workforce is unionized.

But there is something more puzzling here that no one is addressing. What was this guy, Berndt, doing taking photos of these children? This looks as if he was engaged in pornography and p********a trafficking. Why would the LA school board have sat silent for 30 years?

The Huffington Post continues: "He was sentenced to 25 years in prison. The school district, however, allowed him to retire and is paying his pension... " This reads like "hush" money.
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Nov 23, 2014 16:31:17   #
We need land ownership in America. This is a prerequisite for a democratic republic. All property taxes must be abolished.

As of today, the Federal Government owns 50% of all US land, land that could be auctioned off to pay down the national debt;

* land that could be farmed;
* land that could be mined for minerals, gas, coal and oil;
* forest that needs to be managed and harvested for timber;
* homes built for millions of homeless and jobless citizens.
* Generate enough auction revenue and an expanded tax base to pay down our national debt.

Write your new Congressmen after January 3rd to authorize a New Homestead Act, and get it on the White House desk for the President's signature, and get this country moving again.
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Nov 23, 2014 16:13:40   #
L8erToots wrote:
Charter schools and private schools (if you can't home school) are the way to go. If parents would do that on their own, the rest would be easy to accomplish.
GREAT ideas :thumbup:


Parents? Most of these kids toady arrive by stork.

Take a look at this website:
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.asp

"Could you have passed the Eighth Grade in 1895? Probably not... take a look:
This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 from Salina, KS. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smoky Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS and reprinted by the Salina Journal,"

Our public schools today are not about education, but instead, indoctrination; like PRC President JinPing describes as an atheistic domocratic dictatorship of the people. What the heck is a "democratic dictatorship"? Get it? Orwellian doublespeak.
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Nov 23, 2014 15:59:33   #
hprinze wrote:
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I did not misspell lefties. I made a typographical error because of my failing eyesight. After typong I have to go over it with a magnifier to correct those errors. I miss some.


Isn't this a strange forum. As I am typing, the radio is on. There is a government sponsored advertisement chastising bullies in public schools and on the Internet.

Hmmm. How appropriate.
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Nov 23, 2014 15:55:27   #
J Anthony wrote:
If we were to convert all public schools to private/charter, it would still have to get paid for, so how to do that? Most parents work during the days, so home schooling is not a viable option for them.


Yes, J. Anthony, charter schools and private schools would still have to be paid for, and this would become a luxury in the private sector, where home schooling would encompass all children of all incomes and abilities. K-12 is next to free, compared to property taxes.

* Government need not fund any of these options.

* American industry needs to step in, especially after the 8th grade with apprenticeships

* Do you recall GW Bush advocating every American VOLUNTEER 2 years of his life to community service?

* Senior Citizens, could teach the primary grades in local neighborhoods,

* Church members could serve their community on 2 year missions in local schools.

* Stay-at-home moms could organize team-teaching in local neighborhoods and use online K-12 as a backup.

* Trade schools and colleges should be completely privatized to maintain quality and cost control by consumers.

* Our students should help with the harvest every summer and fall to pay their way through school. This would END government student loans, the labor union stranglehold over teaching, and government direction of curriculum.
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Nov 23, 2014 00:01:32   #
3jack wrote:
Oh, I see....you feel that the Mexicans will only want to live in black neighborhoods and work in those jobs held predominantly by b****s. I detect a certain amount of fear in your post but I don't know if it's due to the eventual loss of the white majority in this country or the possibility that a Mexican family may move into your neighborhood.


Jack,
Good grief, cut the persecution complex drama. Many of our neighbors are LEGAL Latino immigrants, naturalized citizens, who make an honest living and are WONDERFUL FRIENDS and neighbors. Many of them are staunch Catholics, own their own businesses, and educate their children with conservative values.

Please get off this socialist, redistribute the wealth mantra, hoping to hammer everyone down to the same level of misery and poverty out of spite. Many people, through hard, HONEST work do pull themselves up with dignity in America.
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Nov 22, 2014 23:50:19   #
3jack wrote:
This is a joke, right? First of all when an amendment fails by a v**e of 61 to 37 it means both sides think it's stupid. Secondly, why would the Senate support a power grab of the Department of Homeland Security? This was no border security bill it was an attempt to try and eliminate a duly dedicated government bureau. Try again.


Not at all.
""The Senate on Wednesday v**ed 61–37 to table an amendment to the immigration-reform bill that would have significantly strengthened the bill’s border-security and enforcement requirements. The so-called Trust but Verify amendment, offered by Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.), would have given Congress, and not the Department of Homeland Security, the ultimate authority to determine if the border is effectively secure."

The real problem at hand here is that DHS is deliberately releasing 100,000s of i*****l a***ns with American criminal records, from car thefts, to rapists and murderers, back into American society instead of deporting them. Haven't you been reading the newspaper?

The Department of Homeland Security is just one more layer upon layer of dysfunctional bureaucracies built atop another layer of dysfunctional bureaucracies.
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Nov 22, 2014 23:27:08   #
Home schooling via K-12 on the Internet, Industrial Apprenticeships and private schools would produce an educated and readymade workforce for young adults by the age of 18.

1) We do not need a multi-trillion dollar US Department of Education, Common Core, or a 400 point government database mining our children's DNA, health, wealth and family social stature.

2) We could then eliminate the "necessity" of property taxes to fund school, which would stabilize the community and go a long way to end homelessness.

3) Public libraries and book stores would thrive again.

4) We could eliminate corporate taxes in exchange for offering apprenticeships so business might thrive again.

5) We would end the vast percentage of unemployed youth by creating a trained industrial workforce.

We need an entirely new approach to educating our youth with job sk**ls and free market principles. Our public schools and colleges are so saturated by socialist dogma, that it is impossible to impress our youth with the values our forefathers fought for. When the c****es come, they come for the children first, and they are doing through the public schools.
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Nov 22, 2014 22:41:58   #
House Republicans Spurn Obama With Border Bills Doomed To Fail

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/house-border-crisis-bill-pass-obama-2014-8#ixzz3JrKmIJSc


Nobody is addressing the real issues as to how the United States has been financing both sides of the civil war in Mexico for the past half century. We have not heard a peep from any American president or Congressman on mandating LAND REFORM before any more American dollar aid is spent.

Why NAFTA when 95% of Mexicans do not even have a bank account, or own land or their own home or their own business? Latin America teeters between Feudalist dictatorships and a C*******t dictatorships.
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Nov 22, 2014 22:20:10   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Oddly, she won't run. I think she has something in her closet.


Condoleeza Rice is a practical woman who can make ten times the income in the private sector without ten times the political hassle in more politics.

Do you blame her?
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Nov 22, 2014 22:10:39   #
3jack wrote:
You say they're there, you post them. I say they're not there, so I don't have to look them up. Go ahead Dennis, post just one of those "secure the border" bills.


Well, lets start in the Senate first:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/351519/senate-rejects-rand-pauls-border-security-amendment-andrew-stiles
Senate Rejects Rand Paul’s Border-Security Amendment
By Andrew Stiles June 19, 2013 6:46 PM

"The Senate on Wednesday v**ed 61–37 to table an amendment to the immigration-reform bill that would have significantly strengthened the bill’s border-security and enforcement requirements. The so-called Trust but Verify amendment, offered by Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.), would have given Congress, and not the Department of Homeland Security, the ultimate authority to determine if the border is effectively secure.

It also included enhanced security measures, such as requiring a double-layer fence to be completed within five years, as well as a number of other triggers that must be implemented before i*****l i*******ts could be awarded legal status. “We desperately need immigration reform—but part of fixing the system is fixing our broken borders,” Paul said before the v**e.

Gang of Eight member (and Paul’s potential primary opponent in 2016) Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) joined every Democrat and six other Republicans to defeat the amendment. A similar coalition of Senators has helped defeat a number of attempts to strengthen the border-security measures in the bill, and to ensure that those measures must be implemented before legal status is granted. Prior to the v**e, Paul appeared to take a subtle dig at Rubio and other Republicans supporting the bill.

'Recently, the authors of this bill made clear that legalization will not be made contingent on border security,' he said. 'Most conservatives believe just the opposite: That legalization absolutely must depend on securing the border first. ’Trust but Verify’ does exactly that. It makes documentation of undocumented workers contingent on border security.' "
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