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Jun 11, 2015 09:53:03   #
Pennylynn wrote:
This will make Payne1000 and all the other Pro-Palestine and Jew hating members of OPP very happy. It seems that a delegation is headed to Israel to explore "war crimes" against Israel.

From Middle East Monitor:

An official ICC delegation is to arrive in Israel at the end of June to investigate possible war crimes carried out in the Palestinian territories; Haaretz reported a Palestinian official as saying yesterday.

The Palestinian official said that the delegation represents the ICC prosecutor's office at The Hague. It is due to arrive in Israel on 27 June as part of the prosecution's preliminary examination into whether Israeli soldiers committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in the occupied Palestinian territories.

According to the Palestinian official if an investigation was opened, it would include Palestinian officials from Hamas and other factions. They would be investigated over claims of crimes committed against Israelis.

The Palestinian Authority lawyer said that this measure is very important because it is considered an indication of the seriousness of the issue.

Haaretz said that before the arrival of the delegation, Palestinians would be asked to offer detailed information about Israeli settlement activities in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as last summer's Israeli assault on the Gaza Strip.

From Arutz Sheva 7:

A delegation from the International Criminal Court will arrive in Israel on June 27, senior Palestinian sources alleged, as part of the ICC prosecutor's preliminary probe into possible Israeli "war crimes."

According to a Haaretz report on Thursday, the sources say Palestinian Authority leaders were recently informed of the delegation's visit, the purpose of which is to determine if there is basis to the PA's claims against Israel and grounds to prosecute.

While an attorney advising the Palestinians told Haaretz the visit was a good sign as ICC delegations do not often come to the countries they are examining, the ICC prosecutor's office stressed the visit was part of the usual examination process.

A senior Israeli official dealing with the probe concurred, arguing the visit is routine for such preliminary investigations and that "nothing about it testifies to the progress of the examination or its pace."

While Israel has so far declined to respond to the prosecution's threatening request for information, the official insisted discussions would be held on the matter in the coming days.

“We will examine every request for a visit while taking into account all the relevant considerations, including Israel’s position that Palestine is not a state and therefore the court has no authority to consider the Palestinian complaint.”

The Palestinians, who officially joined the international body on April 1, will, meanwhile, present the ICC's prosecution team on June 25 with two files containing detailed claims of Israeli military activity in Judea-Samaria and Gaza over the past year.

PA Foreign Minister Riyad al-Maliki will head the delegation of Palestinian officials to The Hague to hand deliver the files to ICC prosecutor Fatou Bensouda.

Palestinian sources claimed to Haaretz that the proximity of the PA's trip with the delegation's visit to Israel is purely coincidental.

Should the prosecution decide to launch a full-scale investigation, it is likely they will not just examine PA allegations of Israeli "war crimes," but also Palestinian actions, such as the spate of terror attacks that struck Israel in the past year.

Now from the mulsim news HAARETZ:

A delegation from the prosecutor’s office of the International Criminal Court at The Hague is due to arrive in Israel on June 27 as part of the prosecution’s preliminary examination into whether war crimes and crimes against humanity have been committed in the occupied Palestinian territories, according to senior Palestinian sources.

The sources said Palestinian political leaders had been informed of the delegation’s planned arrival by the court recently. The purpose of the preliminary examination is to determine if there is a reasonable basis to the claim that crimes have been committed that are within the court’s authority to investigate. If the prosecution does decide to launch an investigation, it is possible they will not just investigate allegations of Israeli war crimes, but also actions committed by the Palestinians.

An independent attorney who is advising the Palestinian committee told Haaretz the delegation’s visit is a good sign that indicates the court is taking the issue seriously. He also said prosecution investigators are not always sent to the country being examined during preliminary examinations. However, the ICC prosecutor’s office said that field visits to various countries are indeed part of the usual examination process, but that the date of the visit had not yet been set.

A senior Israeli official who is dealing with the matter said such a visit is a routine part of conducting such preliminary examinations. “Nothing about it testifies to the progress of the examination or its pace,” he said.

Israel has yet to respond to the prosecution request and will hold discussions about it over the next few days. “We will examine every request for a visit while taking into account all the relevant considerations, including Israel’s position that Palestine is not a state and therefore the court has no authority to consider the Palestinian complaint.”

On June 25, meanwhile, the Palestinians will give the prosecution two files containing detailed information about Israeli activities in the West Bank settlements, including in East Jerusalem, and about Israeli military attacks in the Gaza Strip over the past year. A Palestinian delegation headed by Palestinian Authority Foreign Minister Riyad al-Malki will be traveling to The Hague to deliver the files to prosecutor Fatou Bensouda.

The decision to submit the material on that date was made by a special Palestinian committee for International Criminal Court matters, headed by Saeb Erekat, a veteran negotiator with Israel and member of the PLO executive committee. Palestinian sources told Haaretz that the proximity of the Palestinians’ trip and the delegation’s visit to the region is coincidental. A Palestinian minister said Malki’s trip to The Hague had been set up at the beginning of this month.

Members of the Palestinian committee do not know how far the ICC’s examination has progressed. The information is being submitted to Bensouda to help her decide to move from the examination stage to a full investigation of criminal suspicions. According to ICC procedure, the prosecution must get permission from the judges in the court’s pretrial department to move from examination to investigation.

The submission of the files and the arrival of the delegation are part of a series of official actions that began on December 31, 2014, the day that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas signed the Rome Statute (which regulates the work of the ICC) and issued a declaration that the Palestinians recognize the court’s authority to examine the possibility that crimes were committed on Palestinian soil starting on June 13, 2014 (the date that searches for the three teenagers kidnapped in Gush Etzion the night before were launched).

In a surprise move on January 16, Bensouda announced she was launching a preliminary examination into the situation in Palestine, even though Palestine’s affiliation with the ICC had yet to officially take effect. On February 7, Abbas announced the establishment of the Supreme National Committee for Coordination with the ICC. On April 1, Palestine’s membership in the ICC became official, making it the 123rd member.

A member of the supreme national committee told Haaretz that the submission of the information and documents collected by Palestinian governmental and nongovernmental sources was “a gesture of support for the prosecutor and another sign of our seriousness with regard to the entire process of approaching the International Criminal Court.” A PLO source said that the prosecution at The Hague was working more quickly than the Palestinians had expected.

The prosecutor’s preliminary examination is not an independent investigation by the court, but relies on material that already has been published or that is submitted to it by governmental and nongovernmental agencies. The preliminary examination is meant firstly to examine whether the court has jurisdiction; in 2009, for example, the prosecutor determined it had no authority to investigate suspicions of war crimes committed by Israel since 2002 because Palestine is not a state.

The examination also evaluates whether the seriousness of the allegation warrants an investigation; in 2014 the prosecutor conducted a preliminary examination into Israel’s 2010 raid on the Mavi Marmara, the lead ship in a flotilla trying to break the Gaza blockade, and the k*****g of 10 of its passengers. The prosecutor decided not to proceed to the investigation stage because the incident wasn’t of sufficient magnitude. The examination also looks into the possibility that an investigation will harm the interests of the damaged party.

Members of the supreme committee are well aware that an investigation in Gaza will not just include a probe of alleged war crimes committed by Israel, but also the allegations of crimes committed by various Palestinian elements. But leaders of all Palestinian organizations, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, signed a declaration stating they are prepared to accept the consequences that might result from joining the ICC.

A member of the supreme committee told Haaretz that in contrast to the possibility that an investigation of the situation in Gaza might backfire, the file on the settlements is much simpler and clearer, because the Israelis themselves declare that settling the territories is their policy. Therefore, he said, the court will not be able to avoid launching a war crimes investigation into the settlements issue. The Rome Statute, in its section on war crimes, includes “The t***sfer, directly or indirectly, by the Occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies, or the deportation or t***sfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory.”

The worst that could happen, said the committee member, is that Israel and the United States will exert pressure to slow down the process. Under the Rome Statute, the UN Security Council is permitted to ask the ICC to delay dealing with a certain issue for a year, and can then ask to renew that request for another year. But Palestinian sources told Haaretz that China and Russia have promised the Palestinians that if the United States proposes that the Security Council ask for a delay in the investigation, they will veto that motion.

The Office of the Prosecutor at the International Criminal Court said, “As part of its preliminary examination activities, the Office of the Prosecutor conducts field visits as it has done in the past with other situations under preliminary examinations. From the outset, the prosecutor has consistently made clear that the situation in Palestine will not be treated any differently from the others. Therefore, the office as per normal practice, is considering a visit to the region during the course of its preliminary examination. Contrary to media reports, no date has been confirmed and further planning is required.”
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It's all part of the "Responsibility to Protect" crap that Soros sucked-onto from "Czar," [the most dangerous man in the world - Beck] Cass Sunstein's wife, Samantha Power, [Ambassador to UN] that can cripple Israel with liberal progressive, anti-Semitic c*******t ideology.
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Jun 11, 2015 09:46:25   #
trucksterbud wrote:
Hmmm, seems you HAVE been hiding under your bed. Anyone with REAL research sk**ls knows about this, knows where to find it, and not only that, has a working idea how to fix it.










The hypocrisy of "earthly" forces over-riding "human nature," in our 21st century civilization, is "coming out-of-the-closet," world-wide, and expecting a God-fearing population to just sit-down and shut-up. Hummmmmm. What's wrong with THAT picture???
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Jun 11, 2015 09:29:39   #
EL wrote:
There is no such thing as an unwinnable war.










God works in mysterious ways, EL, and since Satan teamed-up with the world-wide MSM and liberal progressive "Alinskyite" c*******t politics, chaos is the current "earthly" strategy; and "turning the other cheek" only works when there is a Judeo-Christian morality propelling the "hand." Our God is not going to stand-by to allow the forces of evil to continue on its path of destruction in the name of Allah or Alinsky; and God help US. Glenn Beck is gathering the forces for good at mercury1, The Blaze, and if all you can do is pass the message, may God be with you.
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Jun 11, 2015 08:36:21   #
son of witless wrote:
President Obama said, "We don't yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the Iraqis as well."

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-on-isis-we-do-not-yet-have-a-complete-strategy-2015-6

Actually the President does have a complete strategy. It is called complete failure.












"Complete failure," son, doesn't come close to the REAL plan. You don't supply the enemy [Al Qaeda, Taliban, B******i/ISIS/ISIL, Iraq] over the past few years with TRILLION$, that's TRILLIOIN$, with a "T," Trillion$ of dollars worth of the latest American weaponry, explosives and ground equipment and expect "complete failure," unless you are referring to America's coming slaughter if "WE" don't enact a few of those hundreds of arrest warrants that have been following "Barry" around the WH like the ASPCA with butterfly nets.

The c*******t buffer-zones around our "red-diaper" Arab Muslim leader, that have been organizing in America for more than a century seem to have confounded the politics of mortal man, again; but "God works in mysterious ways."
Perhaps God has been cast-out of the "earthly" belligerence that's been quietly and deceptively imported into our "Shining Light on the Hill;" but our 21st century learning-process is again being tested by the evil forces of an obsolete, rather Neanderthal ideology that's k*****g itself and each-other as "WE" speak.

Go to mercury1, on "The Blaze," [Glenn Beck], to see how the Christians in the Middle-East who are currently being slaughtered may possibly be helped with the "WORD," compassion, time or money; even if all you have is the very important ability to relay this message.
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Jun 11, 2015 08:28:03   #
oldroy wrote:
"When we
get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe,we shall
become as corrupt as Europe ."--
Thomas
Jefferson


"The
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are
willing to work and give to those who would not."

These are two of the most important things Jefferson ever said. We are piling people in large cities and Agenda 21 wants it to go further which so many of the left lean agree with.

Taking away from those who will work to give money to others who don't want to work is surely happening today.
"When we br get piled upon one another in la... (show quote)














I think comrade "Alinsky," in "Rules for Radicals," [dedicated to the first radical, "The Father of Deception, Satan] must have read "Jefferson," much like "Barry" read the Constitution, to see how would be best and easiest to "bring America to [her] knees."
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Jun 11, 2015 08:21:03   #
3jack wrote:
Obama is not running for office.









How do YOU know? 3jerk; more borders to open, more weapons to give to ISIS, millions more pages of rules and regulations to foist on the stupid American taxpayer, more "refugee/terrorists" to taxpayer t***sport to America, more mosques to build, more un-vetted Muslim "Czars" to appoint, more F & F guns to "walk" to Mexico, more military to summarily dismiss, more DHS Muslims to incorporate in the organization, more NGO's to infiltrate with Islamic ideology, more "private civilian army" r**ts, l**tings and cop [pig] k*****gs to oversee, more "no-go" zones to establish, more millions of acre "training" camps to fence-off; perhaps Hugo - sorry, perhaps Fidel - oh, sorry, perhaps "Barry," [or wh**ever (his) name really is] is just trying to get started in bringing America to [her] knees.
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Jun 11, 2015 07:59:11   #
LAPhil wrote:
3jack, for the first time I think I actually agree with you.











Don't fall for it, LA; "3jerk" is really "dummy boy" is really "turdsnest." "Jackass' [liberals], pigeons and chess;" is ALL you have to remember when tempted to take ANY of them seriously for something that could pass for a conservative thought-process. And [they] laugh!!!
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Jun 11, 2015 07:46:41   #
stud manly wrote:
Stuff like this Rubio scandal has really exposed the conservative corruption.......huh?













Don't forget, stud, about Chris Christies possible "Bridge-gate." But DO forget about phony birth certificates, 1981 trip to Pakistan, the "New Party," "Tides Foundation," Tony Rezko, Rev. Wright, Indonesian Muslim schooling, F & F, B******i, "JV/ISIS/ISIL," OWS, MB, CPUSA, SPUSA, CAIR, STORM, and on and on and on!!! Nothing to see here, just move along - oh wait - "speeding tickets!!!" And "WE" can never forget that "conservatives cannot do wrong," while "liberal progressives are SUPPOSED to do wrong!!!" Big difference.
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Jun 11, 2015 07:38:42   #
Unclet wrote:
Number 5 is a winner all day - :thumbup: :XD: :thumbup: :XD: :shock: :cry:










So THIS is what the jackass liberal progressive pigeons mean when they say all that crap about "t***h, and "how [it] hurts Republicans." I guess even "demonrats" occasionally see the light; just before [it's] buried beneath 25 million pages of "legalese."
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Jun 11, 2015 07:09:34   #
oldroy wrote:
It seems that the B******i coverup may well b a bi-partisan scandal in which many GOP people were going along with Clinton, Obama, and the head people in both houses of Congress. It seems that Gowdy has scared the crap out of more than just a few people.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/the-b******i-bonanza-a-bi-partisan-scandal/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Judicial%20Watch%20Tipsheet%20(13)&utm_content=










It's ALL "bipartisan," oldroy, at the top. There is no way that our Constitution could have been tampered with at least 8 times since "Barry" [or wh**ever (his) name really is] appeared in American politics, to change or negate the "Natural Born" status of an AMERICAN citizen to become POTUS. B******i was the far-away t***sfer location for American weapons to be sold [or given] to our purported enemy at the time, Al Qaeda and the Taliban. That turned-out to be a real mess when Ambassador Stevens possibly walked-in on a t*****rous arms deal and all hell broke-loose.

Hell, "stand-down" orders had to be given by the most senior in the "loop," and although explanations are no longer necessary in the "Alinsky" book of "Rules," for the current administration, B******i took too much time and energy to stonewall all this time; and t***sfer of the Trillion$ - that's TRILLION$, with a "T," Trillion$ of dollar$ of the latest American weaponry, explosives and ground equipment is much easier and safer for the enlisted t*****rs to t***sfer directly to ISIS {ISIL} right in Iraq.
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Jun 11, 2015 07:02:39   #
LynnLee wrote:
I'm sort of new to this forum...have been reading it for months, but finally decided to get actively involved. I'll warn you now...I'm "slightly right of Attila the Hun" as an old Texas A&M prof once told our class. Don't ask me his name...been too many years ago. I join this forum with respect for all, but that doesn't mean I'll agree with you!








Hi, LL, I like that "right" thing!!! I've found that my communication on OPP avoids jackass' and "pigeons," for good reason; "you can lead a horse to water..." and "none are so blind..." I got a little frustrated when at first I tried to make sense to the many "dummy boys" on this site until I realized THAT is their only purpose in life; soooooo; "jackass', [liberals] pigeons and chess" remains my [recovered liberal - John Kerry - uggggggg] mantra.
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Jun 10, 2015 17:02:31   #
Jeffh****r wrote:
you are such a crybaby. I'm not anti Semite ..I'm anti people taking advantage of America. You jew lovers should go live in Isreal and be happy.













"Jew lovers," comrade??? "Not an anti-Semite," comrade??? Jackass!!!
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Jun 10, 2015 16:41:08   #
oldroy wrote:
Well now, according to Rasmussen 26% of likely v**ers think he should. Not all of that group are Democrats, either. Those who think like that don't know, by and large, about the words of the Constitution concerning the Separation of Powers of the three branches of our government. Too many of them just don't know much about our Constitution and are willing to have Obama destroy that document and his avoiding of courts is the beginning of just that.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/february_2015/should_obama_ignore_the_federal_courts
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C*******ts have been slithering into our free-market Western civilization since our founding, oldroy, and their latest "Alinskyite" strategy of "r****m," worked swimmingly; if only they hadn't had to rely on useful i***ts that went with the "never let a good crisis go to waste," strategy, and threw Marx and Alinsky under the ole' bus!!!
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Jun 10, 2015 14:51:23   #
fullsailale wrote:
- President Obama's top health official (Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell) testified Wednesday that if the Supreme Court issues a ruling that upends the Affordable Care Act, it's up to Congress and the states to figure out a solution.
- blames pentagon and other countries for no isis plan when they did present multiple plans.
- i could go on and on.

everything obama has started has turned out to be a big failure not to mention costly. and all hes done is point his finger at everyone but himself. every decision hes made has been off the hip and half ass because he simply does not know how to do his job. so this makes him completely ignorant. and everything hes done has failed so he blames everyone but himself. so this makes him a coward. therefore all of this is a direct reflection of america to the world. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE AND EMBARRASSING. the bottom line here is, WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN!!!
- President Obama's top health official (Health an... (show quote)
















The "finger pointing," full, is the low-caste Muslim method of avoiding the whip. Taqiyya is the Islamic term, and for a half-white low-caste Muslim to grow-up in Indonesia without crippling mental and physical injury they must be able to speak clearly ["articulate"] out of both sides of their mouth at the same time spouting exactly opposite ideologies; and be 100% believed by the "Islamic Morality Police." So you can see how easily stupid Americans can be fooled.
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Jun 10, 2015 14:40:10   #
Dave wrote:
I see that the Congressional Black Caucus are united in their opposition to Obama's legislation on TPA. One must wonder if it is because of his (half white) race.









Yea, Dave, "half white," about 49% Arab Muslim and about 1% African - NO part ANYTHING but full-blown anti-American!!!
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