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Jun 11, 2022 10:44:20   #
lindajoy wrote:
Thank you, Voice….

Coos Bay Tom is most certainly a thoughtful poster and a gentlemen as well.. Few in here that I respect as much as slatt and Tom…

They are a pleasure to “debate” even if they tick me off at times… (lol) Im sure I do them as well, but never enough to allow politics to infect the value of the person you come to know..Simply not worth it to me…


...and that's exactly how it should be!

lindajoy wrote:
As for Leadbelly Admittedly I did not know of him… So I listened and read a bit on his career path… Given the era of his genre I suspect he did rather well to include the hurdles he may have faced.. His House of the Rising Sun” was good too but I’d be lying to say “The Animals” version better..

https://youtu.be/4-43lLKaqBQ


Like I said, Leadbelly is going back to the roots of the blues. But you taught me something too, for some reason I was almost sure that Bob Dylan had written House of the Rising Sun. When you said you listened to Leadbelly's version I wondered how is that possible? So I looked it up and, of course, I was wrong about Dylan. Obviously I didn't know Leadbelly had ever done it.

As much as I like most of his music, I can't listen to Leadbelly's original recordings. The technology was so poor back then it hurts my ears. The song I linked was from the soundtrack to the movie about him that was released back in 1976. It's funny, compared to today the technology from the '70's is obsolete, but it's still pretty high quality. I read that the artist put a lot of effort into learning to sound like Leadbelly.

As for House of the Rising Sun, as you know it's been done by countless artists and I assume you meant to say "but I’d be lying to say “The Animals” version ISN'T better..". I agree, Eric Burton & the Animals version is the best, IMO too. It's become the gold standard that all others are compared to, and less than.
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Jun 11, 2022 10:08:33   #
DASHY wrote:
The possibility of a sleazy corrupt president o*******wing our Democratic form of government was stopped by majority rule of the v**ers at the 2020 p**********l e******n. We are still cleaning up the chaotic mess created by the pathetic loser.


President Trump is the first politician in forever to leave office with less wealth than when he entered it, and you see that as evidence of corruption. Amazing!
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Jun 11, 2022 10:00:54   #
DASHY wrote:
An attempt at mob rule happened J****** 6 last year. It failed miserably. Apparently the leader of the pack, former, twice impeached, president Trump failed civics. His failed businesses were followed by his failed presidency.


Yes, Dashy, those J** 6 r****rs were stupid. If they'd just followed what you l*****ts do and burned the capitol to the ground it would have been a peaceful protest.
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Jun 11, 2022 09:54:38   #
RandyBrian wrote:
Uh huh. I guess you think President Biden is a roaring success, don't you?


From the perspective of the left, Biden IS a roaring success. Remember, the left believes that in order to create their perfect socialist utopia, they first have to completely tear down what we have. It's hard to believe that the l*****ts have only been in charge for less than 1.5 years! Look at all the damage they've managed to do in such a short time! It's truly unprecedented. It took Obama years to accomplish less destruction than this administration has done in mere months.
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Jun 10, 2022 16:21:23   #
RandyBrian wrote:
You are welcome, and you are probably right. When I was in junior high and high school, I H**ED history and civics. But I was good at it. I find it hard to believe that someone from the 60s and 70s does not understand the simplest, most basic things about our system of government.
Unfortunately, there are quite a few on the left who do not. And worse, there are some who do not care, and want to twist our Constitution and our laws to fit their subjective concept of a 'fair' country, and deny the rest of us our freedom.
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Like you, I also h**ed history and civics and didn't realize their importance until long after I was done with school. But, also like you, I did learn them. I don't know for sure, but I strongly suspect that since l*****ts took over the entire education system they've stopped teaching that we're a representative republic and instead teach that we're a democracy, which is a synonym for mob rule. The average lifespan for a democracy is about 200 years, that's how long it takes for the majority to realize that instead of working for a living they can v**e to steal from those who do. Once more than 50% start v****g for a living instead of working, the nation will collapse.

The goal of l*****ts seems to be to hasten the collapse so they can replace it with a socialist utopia. Disarming those who oppose that is part of the plan.
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Jun 10, 2022 16:02:30   #
lindajoy wrote:
Good day to you voice just wanted to step in here realizing it’s uninvited just to tell you that I have known slatt a long time and through those years have come to really respect him as a person along with his diversity and showing me the other side done professionally and gentlemanly. Just my two cents..


Good day to you, too, Linda. You never need an invitation to give me your input, I value your opinion.

Of all the people more to the left on this site, I think the one I respect the most is Coos Bay Tom. Despite disagreeing with his opinions, he expresses them well, he gives reasons for them, and he is usually civil and respectful. I'm beginning to see those same qualities in Slatt as well. Further, having folks like you vouch for him goes a long way. Thanks.

On a different topic, did you like that Leadbelly song?
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Jun 10, 2022 15:55:10   #
RandyBrian wrote:
What country is it that you live in? Because the United States is not, and has never been, 'majority rules'. Did you ever take civics in school? How did you pass the tests? The Constitution was written for, among other things, to make SURE that there were unbreakable limitations to 'majority rules'. The United States is a representative republic that uses democracy ONLY as a tool for the se******n of those representatives.


Thanks for doing the explanation, not that it will do any good...
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Jun 10, 2022 10:12:36   #
DASHY wrote:
I stand corrected. AR-15 weapon has a shooting rate of only 4ps. So, it might take 5 seconds to k**l 20 people. Like its military-use counterparts, its only purpose is to rip human beings apart as quick as possible. The purchase of the AR-15 requires no paperwork.


Given your total lack of knowledge about pretty much everything, you probably don't know this either, but the Chinese population was stripped of their gun rights long ago. It is illegal to own a personal gun in China. The penalty for committing gun crimes in China is death. When a Chinese citizen is sentenced to death, they are taken from the courthouse and immediately shot in the head. Unlike in the US, they don't sit on death row filing appeal after appeal until they're released or die of old age. Because of all that, you don't hear of very many mass shootings in China, except by government officials.

However, on a fairly regular basis there are reports from China about some lunatic who goes to a school and murders a bunch of children. The weapon of choice for most of those lunatics seems to be knives or swords.

What should the CCP (Chinese C*******t Party) do to prevent these murders?

Should they ban all knives and swords?

Should they determine, in each case, the brand of the knife or sword the lunatic used and ban that brand? Should they hold the manufacturer of the knife or sword responsible? Should they hold the stores that sell that brand responsible? Should they hold the mining company that mined the iron to make the steel for the knife or sword responsible?

Should they determine, in each case, the type of the knife or sword the lunatic used and ban that type? For instance, if a hunting knife was used in a school k*****g spree, should all Chinese citizens be banned from owning hunting knives?
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Jun 10, 2022 09:41:28   #
Mikeyavelli wrote:
My handguns will be just as lethal as my ARs should I pull the triggers fast.
You want my guns, then you want to subjugate me to the one government world with Islam as the policing force. You can't do that while I am armed.
I'm not about to k**l kids or anyone shopping or sitting in church like those crazed people do.
But I will turn my weapons on someone who wants to take them from me to subjugate me. And that is the real reason you lefties want my guns. You want to subjugate me.


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Jun 10, 2022 09:32:10   #
slatten49 wrote:
As you probably knew, my post was in response to the following exchange...

Big Bass wrote:
"You are right on, Voice. Shady is a typical lefty".

Voice of Reason wrote:
"You've got that right! So much so that I sometimes wonder if it's a bot created to satirize the stupidity and vapidness of the left".

As you strongly implied that some on the 'left' made/make stupid and vapid comments, it was my intent to suggest that clueless comments also come from the 'right'. If you read my post differently, I now make it clear that it was not personally directed at you or anyone in particular. My intent was to point out that stupidity and/or vapidity are in no way limited to one party or ideology. OPP is inundated with proof of both/all being guilty.
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Thanks for clarifying about your comments not being personally directed.

As for the 'both sides' part, in my response I just wanted to point out that I agree with that sentiment and always have. That's why I have also called out stupidity and vapidity on the part of some on the 'right' here on OPP.

Having said that, IMHO, while there are definitely stupid people on both sides, stupidity seems to be official policy on the left. For instance, Democrats/l*****ts seem to be surprised at the surge in crime while Republicans/conservatives expected it after the Democrats released thousands of violent criminals from jail at the start of the p******c.

slatten49 wrote:
I've seen/read posts and or PMs that clearly establish both you and Big Bass as intelligent, generally reasonable men. I have no doubt of your capacities for level-headed thought(s). Yet, once again, I am reminded of the quote attributed to Benjamin Franklin: "If passion drives you, let reason hold the reins." Personally, I remind myself of that quote before almost every post I make, and try to adhere to it.
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Thanks for the compliment, I totally deserve it. <joke!>

I know it's customary to return your compliment, but to be perfectly honest, I haven't read enough of your postings to develop an informed opinion of you. For wh**ever reason we both seem to be drawn to different subject matters, or at least the ones I scan don't usually have many messages from you. I can say that I recognize you act like an adult, unlike Dashy and others.

I like the quote, hadn't heard it before as far as I remember. I've found that often it's good to type out a response, then wait at least a few hours and read it. Then decide if you want to post it.

I agree about Stevie Ray Vaughn, thanks for the links. Have a great day.
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Jun 10, 2022 01:19:07   #
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Logic flies over their heads.


That's not logic, that's l*****t logic. AKA: Absurdity wrapped in a swaddling cocoon of self-righteous virtue signaling.
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Jun 10, 2022 01:18:18   #
Here's a question I've never heard asked:

When did mass shootings become so common? Was it before or after it was decided to shut down most of the insane asylums and mainstream insane patients? Seems like it might be relevant.
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Jun 9, 2022 15:45:21   #
Turtle keeper wrote:
I think NYC, DC, all of California, Chicago have done what you say. Guess you’re wrong. There are many more law abiding citizens than there are the addled brain criminals. I believe the answer is very complex
We need to look at mental health problems, we need to get morals back, we need to quit thinking you can treat a criminal as anything other than a criminal. The laws need to change to being much stricter on anyone that uses a firearm to commit a crime. If there’s a gun involved in a crime then with a conviction there needs to be a VERY stiff sentence with no parole. The answer is not easy but it involves the things I mentioned. Gun bans are not going to stop anything. Criminals will have guns because they are criminals. You should look at it this way. If new gun laws stopped crime then we have laws against crimes now why do we have crimes? The only people you harm with gun bans are law abiding citizens. The people you don’t harm is the criminals, they will have firearms and of course all the damned politicians that are afraid of the very people they pretend to represent. The 2nd amendment it there to protect us from your representatives. The Government
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Absolutely true! They are using the acts of crazies they refuse to lock up as an excuse to disarm us so we can't defend ourselves against their brownshirts. Remember how furious all the Democrats were when the McCloskey's brandished firearms and prevented the B*M mob from murdering them?
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Jun 9, 2022 15:23:43   #
slatten49 wrote:
What's sad is the stupidity and vapidness on both sides so cavalierly overlooked by each's own "bots".


On the contrary, Slat, on more than one occasion I have called out stupid, vapid conservatives on this site and accused them of exactly the same thing, although I may not have called them bots, don't remember. I do remember that I publicly accused them of being l*****ts posing as stupid conservatives in order to make conservatives look bad.

Now, I can understand that you didn't know that because I don't expect you or anybody else to review all 3000+ postings I've made on OPP before commenting on a recent one of mine, but now you know.

It's unclear to me whether or not your comment is accusing me of being stupid, vapid or both, so I won't accuse you of doing so. However, if that was your intention then the smart, adult thing to do would be to provide examples of stupid, vapid things I've posted along with an explanation of why you consider them to be stupid and/or vapid. Then we could discuss them like adults. You don't strike me as being an immature child, like Dashy comes across.

Having said all that, since we are both music fans, check this out. 'Life by the Drop' fingerpicked on a 12-string by a virtuoso. Excellent!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6IlsPurPKs
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Jun 9, 2022 15:01:47   #
DASHY wrote:
If you call "k*****g a human fetus" as morality issue, what right does the government have to challenge an individual's moral beliefs?


Well, Dashy, if the government can't regulate morality, then they can't make murder illegal. If murder isn't illegal, according to you, there's nothing wrong with it. So you have no right to complain about what happened in Uvalde.
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