Ricktlom: You hit a home run! The information below sums up the mental illness on the left!

Conservatism Versus Liberalism

C- Families know best how to raise their children. They need to be strengthened and have the right to raise their children the way they want.
L- It takes a “village” not a family to raise a child. Families need government help and oversight. Cradle to grave involvement is optimal.

C-Society is composed of individuals to be judged on their individual merit. Values individualism, self-reliance, and independence.
L-Sees society as composed of groups: black vs. white, old vs. young, rich vs. poor, male vs. female. These groups are pitted against each other. Stirs up racial and class envy and division.

C-Individuals are responsible for themselves and their actions. Crime should be punished. Evil exists and good should fight against it.
L-Society is responsible for individuals. Man is inherently good and something causes him to do wrong.
They talk about how we need to change society when someone does wrong. Even terrorists need to be understood.

C-Limit to how much can be taken from people to give to others. Welfare should help people to become independent (not dependent) and given to those truly incapable of taking care of themselves.
L- Supports welfare state. Government is morally justified taking from those that have and giving it to others because people are entitled to basic needs including housing, food, healthcare, income, etc. even if they are able to work.

C- Promotes equal justice.
L- Promotes social justice.

C-Competition is good.
L- Competition is unfair.

C-Supports lower taxes for all because people have a right to what they earn.
L-Supports progressive taxation with high taxes for the rich in an attempt to equalize incomes through redistribution of earnings.

C-Less government is better. Wants only necessary regulation of business, economy, and individual lives, resulting in more freedom.
L-More government is better. Many regulations are necessary to achieve a more fair & just society which is government’s primary role, resulting in less freedom.

C-Limited federal government with more power given to state and local governments.
L-Powerful centralized federal government with limited state and local control.

C-People and property rights are more important than environment. Supports conservation and development and use of our natural resources along with the development of green technology by private enterprise and when it is economically feasible and self-sustaining. Opposes cap and trade due to its high cost and negative impact on our businesses and way of life.
L-Environment more important than people and property rights. Supports rationing and limiting access to natural resources. Focuses on green technology subsidized by the government. Supports cap and trade to redistribute and control energy usage.

C-Wealth is good. All have an opportunity to be wealthy (The American dream). Creates a better life for all through entrepreneurship.
L-Wealth is bad and unfair. Promotes class warfare.

C-Equal opportunity without discrimination. Recognizes people make different choices with what they have and that it isn't government's role to make things fair. Doesn’t seek equal outcomes.
L-Equal results through such things as quotas, free college, and equal pay for unequal work. Government has to level the playing field in order to have equal opportunity. Seeks equal outcomes.

C- Supports healthcare reform that gives consumers choices.
L - Supports government takecover of healthcare and limiting of consumers' choices.

C-Judicial restraint with strict interpretation of laws according to the Constitution and original intent.
L-Judicial activism: enacting social policy changes via court rulings. Constitution is seen as outdated and in need of change.

C-Free market economy.
L-Government regulation of economy.

C -Free market creates jobs.
L -Government creates jobs.

C-Business is good: creates jobs & improves lives. Let free market supply and demand adjust practices and employers and employees determine wages/benefits.
L-Business is evil: out to exploit employees, environment, and consumers. Needs to be regulated to protect consumers, employees, and the environment. Government regulates employee benefits.

C-Traditional morality including traditional family and values. Absolute standards of right and wrong. Absolute t***h. Sees standing against wrong as a moral duty.
L-Tolerance of all lifestyles & beliefs except those that hold views they consider to be intolerant. No absolute standards of right and wrong. Moral relativism.

C-Right to free speech must be supported even if it offends.
L-Right to free speech is limited to speech that does not offend. (Political correctness)

C-Peace through strength via a strong military.
L - Peace through appeasement, cooperation, and understanding others' views. Dislikes showing and exercising strength.

C-Supports a missile defense system.
L-Opposes a missile defense system.

C-American sovereignty comes before globalism.
L-Globalism comes before American sovereignty.

C-Sees America as good: the best hope for the world. Believes in American exceptionalism.
L-Sees America as flawed: r****t, h********c, imperialistic, sexist, ageist and no better than other countries.

C-Western cultures are superior to others without rights, freedom, and respect for life.
L-All cultures are equal. Can’t pass judgment on any even if they don’t value freedom, rights, and life.

C-God is a necessary part of a moral society. Religion makes people good when they know they have to answer to God.
L-State is secular (without God and hostile to Christianity). Seeks to eliminate references of God through separation of church and state.

C-Rights emphasized: Freedom, Parental, Property, Religious, Guns, Life.
L-Rights emphasized: Civil, Privacy, Secularism, Reproductive.


Liberalism (progressivism) wants to pull us further towards a welfare state with an ever-expanding web of social entitlements and more federal power and control over every aspect of our lives. Liberalism sees a nation of people incapable of solving their problems without the government’s help.

Conservatism believes a powerful federal government limits personal freedom. It seeks to stop the growing entitlement programs, encourage individual responsibility, and return Constitutionally mandated power to the states. Conservatism sees a nation of people capable of solving their own problems with minimal government help, as long as the people are free.

You can always tell a liberal.. but you can't tell him much!!.. closed mind to any kind of logic except their own.. what they don't realize is that conservatives care just as much as liberals for the poor.. Jesus encouraged us to help the 'widows and orphans'.. strange thing he did not cure ALL (because he came to preach his Father's rule as the ONLY hope).. or feed ALL.. because it is about GOD's law that counts and he made it clear that the only hope for mankind was 'HIS Kingdom'.. all our efforts will eventually fail because HE is left out of the equation.. that is why i do not fear 'g****l w*****g' even as evidence shows it is in fact happening.. this is HIS planet and he will not let us destroy it.. 'Keep the faith' brothers but not faith in the failed politics on both sides.. as to Trump i do believe that he cares about America (he had his fortune made) and he ran against the 'establishment swamp' who only care about their power.. until we get 'term limits' we cannot save America from the rich and powerful.. that and school vouchers to get education out of the hands of the 'establishment'.. McCain cares only for his power not American (he just wanted to get back at Trump for personal reasons.. not American any more)

tommyhoore says, "But pro-lifers have a bigger responsibility: all life. That means immigrants and people on death row and those on welfare.

Here is what you don't understand. Us Conservatives respect the life of immigrants. We also respect the lives of Americans. More so. We also respect the laws on immigration. We welcome immigrants who apply at our embassies and come here legally, either to immigrate or visit on a temporary work permit or schooling permit or tourist visa. When the temporary visa permit is expired, they need to be gone. We have no respect for the i*****l i*******t who is in fact an invader in our country. Just like virtually all countries of the world.

We also respect those on welfare for legitimate reasons, some unfortunately, permanently. We don't respect those that seem to make living on welfare as a permanent job and lifelong source of free revenue at our expense. We also don't support the excesses of welfare where they seem to have free schooling for their kids, free food and free housing amounting to more then many working Americans.

And yes, it is so. Many years ago I worked very briefly with a local wackadoodle 'Progressive' politician back in the 70s. The project was housing for the poor. I saw the pictures, new homes, or apartments or town houses, new furniture and a colored TV. Meanwhile, with a good job in computers, I still had to live in a basement apartment, old furniture and a hand me down old portable black and white TV that had to have tubes replaced so often that I never put the cover back on. Point: I was being asked to help set up these poor people in a better standard of living then I could afford for myself. Of course, this was all with someone else's money through taxation. Like taxing me. I would have to help pay to put these people in a better situation then I could afford. That was the first and last time I ever had anything to do with these unProgressives.

tommymore, I too am a diehard liberal. I respect other peoples views that may be conservative even though I don't agree with them. I think it's a good idea to separate the conservative ideas from reactionary ideology. Sometimes they overlap, so it isn't easy. Anything that smacks of r****m and/or anti- Semitism is reactionary, not conservative, and ought to be rejected by anybody that believes in democracy.
Trump is no conservative. He is far more dangerous than that. He isn't a populist either, he is a Trumpist. What I mean by that is he likes the cult of personality being built around him. In his mind, he is the alpha and omega of all political, social and economic action. He is the greatest narcissist that ever occupied the White House, and thats saying something. He is also a pathological liar. He can't seem to not constantly lie to the American people. He is ignorant of p**********l protocols and demands personal loyalty to himself, not the constitution. He has a history of sexual aggression against women that he doesn't even know. These traits and others make him unfit to be president.
Having said that, there are some Republicans I could never imagine supporting like Pence. This man has sold his soul to big tobacco and other nasty lobbies. He has no idea of the future consequences of allowing the super wealthy continue to grab all the marbles. On the other hand, I could see a Republican like Haley, McCain or even Graham in the office of President. I don't know if I could v**e for any of them, but I wouldn't be disgusted as I am about Pence, or people of his ilk.

bwahahahahah OHOHO heheheheh Your a******n leading, gay ass maggot infesting even into the Boy Scouts, removal of GOD and every single aspect of the very nature of this Great America by your destructive crap from the DEMOCRAPS far exceeds anything beyond what any one political group NON democrap coulld ever do. Immorality? Part of the motto of the democraps...that and being a murdering baby raping thief, there is NO morality in any way from anyone in the LEFT! Greed you say? Yes your democraps are totally filled with GREED! it is all your party knows and they get their lust for money from RAPING anyone that works for a living.

So now, dick94611 my message for you is...."F" yourself.

tommymore, I too am a diehard liberal. I respect other peoples views that may be conservative even though I don't agree with them. I think it's a good idea to separate the conservative ideas from reactionary ideology. Sometimes they overlap, so it isn't easy. Anything that smacks of r****m and/or anti- Semitism is reactionary, not conservative, and ought to be rejected by anybody that believes in democracy.
Trump is no conservative. He is far more dangerous than that. He isn't a populist either, he is a Trumpist. What I mean by that is he likes the cult of personality being built around him. In his mind, he is the alpha and omega of all political, social and economic action. He is the greatest narcissist that ever occupied the White House, and thats saying something. He is also a pathological liar. He can't seem to not constantly lie to the American people. He is ignorant of p**********l protocols and demands personal loyalty to himself, not the constitution. He has a history of sexual aggression against women that he doesn't even know. These traits and others make him unfit to be president.
Having said that, there are some Republicans I could never imagine supporting like Pence. This man has sold his soul to big tobacco and other nasty lobbies. He has no idea of the future consequences of allowing the super wealthy continue to grab all the marbles. On the other hand, I could see a Republican like Haley, McCain or even Graham in the office of President. I don't know if I could v**e for any of them, but I wouldn't be disgusted as I am about Pence, or people of his ilk.