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Apr 8, 2018 20:12:18   #
And that doesn't count for the tens, hundred of thousands by keeping them hooked on drugs, prostitution, murder, a******n on the plantation. Mike
cold iron wrote:
If only you would look in a mirror.
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Apr 8, 2018 19:39:58   #
Slat, one explanation is uncertainty and loss of self. When I worked for the rail road we were constantly having retirees either committing suicide shortly after retiring or just dying shortly after. It seemed to happen too often and their spouse lived on.

I retired in July of 2016 after working at one thing or another for 60 years. The first 3 or 4 weeks were hell. I wasn't used to NOT having to get up early and go to work and early on I did get up, get dress and head out the door a few times only to catch myself. Add to that the discipline, the closeness of unit, the ugliness shared with others, in other words the loss of cohesion of being a part of oneness with others of the same mine set for years.

My Dad retired from the Marines in 1962 after 23 years and two wars. He wasn't fit for civilian life. The Marines took him back in and debriefed him. He retired with 26 years of service.

This isn't an only answer but may be a part of what is happening. I'm sorry for them all. Mike
slatten49 wrote:
By Thomas E. Ricks

Why do so many soldiers continue to take their own lives at a higher rate than their civilian counterparts, whether young or old? I've spent a lot of time stewing about this over the past few days.

It began Monday morning when I got a note from a Vet in a very dark place and contemplating the act. He'd served in Vietnam. His risk of suicide is about 2 percent higher than that of his non veteran peers. according to a report last year from the Department of Veterans Affairs.

That afternoon, I learned that an Army captain who had been featured a while back in my old "Best Defense" column on the Foreign Policy website had gone out in the middle of the night and sat on railroad tracks near Fort Carson, Colorado, and apparently let a train run over him. He was still in the military but may have been thinking of leaving. People getting out are at the highest risk in the year after they leave...about one & one half to two times as likely to k**l themselves as those still on active duty.

A friend of his wrote to me. "He was always a high-performing and intelligent guy. He had deployed to Afghanistan with 10th Mountain, then to Kuwait with 4th ID prior to Atlantic Resolve where it looks like you met him. He was on deck to teach Military Science at West Point. He had a wife and daughter. Nothing about his death makes sense. The only indicator I had that he was unhappy was his deep frustrations with the conventional military, the high op tempo for support roles and exercises, and the impact on his family."

Last month, the commander of the Marine 4th Reconnaissance Battalion was found dead in his home. He also had deployed several times to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Also recently, I read that a retired major who had served in military intelligence in Iraq had k**led himself and his wife.

The suicide rate for Veterans has gone up 35% since 2001, in part because of increase in post 9/11 Veterans k*****g themselves.

I know what I am seeing around me is anecdotal. But it just doesn't feel right to me. What is gong on here?

Here are four possibilities, specific to the conditions of our recent war:

1) A lost war: My initial thought was that perhaps people are feeling empty and lost as the Middle Eastern war wins down and we don't have a lot to show for it besides Iran being more powerful than ever. But a friend who did several tours in Vietnam said he also knew that feeling but didn't see any rash of suicides in the '70s among his former comrades.

2) Death by rotation: Another theory is that everyone is born with just so much to give and that repeated deployments drain that reserve, without replenishment. At some point, a person might just decide they can't do this anymore, that this is too painful, and look for the fastest exit.

3) Brain injury: A third theory, related to the extensive use of roadside bombs in the Middle East, suggests that the human brain can, at best, withstand only one or two nearby explosions and cannot heal the deep damage inflicted by repeated blasts.

4) More to come: Or is it that depressed Vets are responding to the whiff of another possible war on the horizon with North Korea?

Whether it is one of these, or a combination, or something else, it worries me deeply.
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Thomas E. Ricks writes "The Long March" column for Task & Purpose, a Veteran-oriented website. He is author of the bestselling "Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq," "The Gamble: General David Petraeus and the American Military Adventure in Iraq, 2006-2008" and "The Generals: American Military Command from World War II to Today."
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Apr 8, 2018 19:07:35   #
Wrong, the left wants to do it with l*****t courts and outrageous acts, the right wants to follow the Constitution. Mike
woodguru wrote:
Fundamental difference between the right and the left, the left wants to do it democratically with the v**e, the right will do anything including violating constitutional rights and resort to second amendment remedies as they call it if they lose power democratically.

"taking america back" is not going to make america great again if it isn't done by a majority v**e.
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Apr 8, 2018 16:10:39   #
Twitter CEO Shares And Raves About Article Calling For Dem Victory In Second ‘Civil War’


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Joe Simonson

Media Reporter



5:19 PM 04/07/2018


Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey aroused controversy after labeling a Medium article “great” that claimed there’s no “bipartisan way forward” in the United States and that the country is engaged in a “fundamental conflict between two worldviews that must be resolved in short order.”

Dorsey shared the Medium article on his personal Twitter account Thursday night, with the accompanying acclaim that it was a “great read.”

Author and media consultant Peter Leyden and political commentator Ruy Teixeira argued in the article titled “The Great Lesson of California in America’s New Civil War” that America is already in the midst of a second major domestic conflict of sorts and the way out is for the rest of the country to imitate California.

“In this current period of American politics, at this juncture in our history, there’s no way that a bipartisan path provides the way forward,” they wrote. “The way forward is on the path California blazed about 15 years ago.”








Essentially, the authors called for a complete marginalization of the Republican Party and its v**ers since they only care “about rule by and for billionaires at the expense of working people” and not “average citizens.”

California, despite its mass wealth ine******y, growing lack of social cohesion, poverty, and soaring housing costs “provides a model for America as a whole,” according to Leyden and Teixeira. Interestingly enough, they claimed the state’s economy is booming, although arguably not for long. They also oddly claimed the state is running on surpluses without acknowledging its debt crisis.

“The public is happy with its political leaders,” they noted. However, California Gov. Jerry Brown, a Democrat, has a 44 percent approval rating. The article also does not acknowledge that the state has seen tens of thousands of residents leave annually for the last few years.

Leyden and Teixeira are somewhat correct that America currently faces a dialectic of “two political cultures already at odds through different political ideologies, philosophies.” Yet, they do not call for Democrats to try to understand their political adversaries.




Instead, they proposed Americans “take the Republican Party down for a generation or two” in order to save the country.

“America can’t afford more political paralysis. One side or the other must win. This is a civil war that can be won without firing a shot. But it is a fundamental conflict between two worldviews that must be resolved in short order,” Leyden and Teixeira asserted.

Dorsey’s tweet comes in the midst of growing concerns about his website’s treatment of conservatives. Over the last few years, Twitter has banned a number of right-wing accounts that it says violate the site’s terms of service.

Critics say the site is selective in who it punishes and engages in so-called “shadowbanning,” which effectively makes a user’s post invisible to others without officially taking the account down.

Twitter has denied these allegations.

Dorsey’s tweet brings up a more fundamental question: If he agrees that the country is in the state of crisis that Leyden and Teixeira believe, does he feel an obligation to use all tools at his disposal to help the Democrats “win” this alleged second Civil War? Is Twitter — a social media site with considerable influence over the media’s day-to-day narrative — a vehicle for Dorsey to help accomplish this goal?

If the country is in as dire of a position as the Medium article claimed, how can Dorsey not feel an obligation to help steer the country away from collapse?

Dorsey did not respond to The Daily Caller News Foundation’s request for comment via Twitter after he disputed DCNF reporter Peter J. Hasson’s tweet that he “loves” Leyden’s piece.
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Apr 8, 2018 01:04:04   #
Peewee, as if you don't read what's being said here. By saying I've been begging Sici to have patience I was saying I've been saying that to him for a long time and I'm done with it. It was meant to be a term of expression. You take it how ever you want.

By the way I've considered most here to be pretty educated and understanding, which I'm personally not educated, but I'm finding out that a lot of people here are can't comprehend crap. Mike quote=Peewee]Well, you said you were begging. If someone is begging me to do something I don't want to do, I consider that being pushy or pulling and emotional blackmail. Most men consider it nagging and h**e it. Ask me once maybe twice then accept my yes as yes and my no as no and stop bugging me. That's just the way I am, not saying it's right or wrong. It would just make me dig my heels in harder. If I offended you I apologize.
I often forget everyone doesn't think or feel like I do. Sici is a grown man and is entitled to his beliefs right or wrong and is also responsible for his actions right or wrong. He won't pay for our sins and we won't pay for his. His children may pay a price to the 3rd or 4th generation but not us.[/quote]
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Apr 8, 2018 00:53:17   #
Doesn't need to ask for permission to ask for National Guard to go to the border. He isn't sending standing troops. Pay attention. Although I wish he was sending standing troops, locked and loaded. Mike
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Ok I can believe that then he better stop making grave mistakes like signing the Criminal Omnibus bill...

And another mistake like sending troops to the border without Rules of Engagement

I can go on... but what I’m trying to point out to you guys is there is no 3D chess player or real Plan.
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Apr 7, 2018 22:20:30   #
Peewee, I'm missing you on pushing and pulling him so I'll understand, doesn't matter though. I've been steadfast with Sici. If I'm wrong on that please explain so I'll understand. As I told him I'm no longer dealing on this subject with him. Mike
Peewee wrote:
teabag, Sici is just frustrated it's taking so long like we all are. Q is great but we all want more info and status updates. Which Trump and Q can't tell us without revealing their plans. Q giving us as much info as he has is unprecedented and is probably to keep people from going off half-cocked.

Sici is aggravating and hard-headed, but Sici isn't going to go Rambo and start offing people. I think he is mostly talking about a Constitutional Convention and not m*****a activity.

Stop pulling and pushing on him and he'll probably walk side by side with you. Plus I can't keep up with everything I want to and Sici can keep us up to speed on the progress of the (CCA) Constitutional Convention Amendment movement and all the pros and cons if he wants to. I know I would appreciate that.

teabag, Sici is just frustrated it's taking so lon... (show quote)
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Apr 7, 2018 22:03:41   #
Mike, incrementlism, a little bite here and another little bite there. The reason they are taking a chomp now is two fold I think. One) They saw that the American people were catching on to the falsehood of o and the demoncrats and were trying to capture the undecided and hopefully change some minds. Desperation if you will. They are sick, rabid, but rabid animal doesn't know it is, doesn't realize it is vicious and evil, it can't see itself.

Two) They blame us for their adversity to the water of faith in God, morality, t***h and in general goodness to humanity. Just as a rabid dog can't stand water, neither can the left quote=2bltap]Ok I realize this is Alex Jones, But its not HIS VIDEOS THAT ARE IMBEDED. You all make up your own minds on this. quite frankly I dont give a rats ass as to how other people live their ives as long as it does not infringe on my life and values and it doesnt harm others. However, if we are all honest here the question as to why the whole boys and girls, men and women in the same bathroom issue comes up. Why was this such HUGE PUSH during the Obama administration? I like many both here on OPP as well as all over the the U.S. and the world had wondered why Obama and company would have developed some of the most destructive policies both foreign and domestic during is time in THE PEOPLES HOUSE? WHY? It will have to come from your own sense of decency and love of this country of ours. On the other hand if you dont give a s**t as to how you and I are governed then we are all screwed.
Semper Fi
Mike
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Apr 7, 2018 21:30:28   #
BR, as screwed up as things and people are now I'd be concerned. In my opinion let what is going down now continue for a while and depending what happens drop the hammer. Any move done wrong or at the wrong time could spell disaster. Mike
Blade_Runner wrote:
How is it possible that Soros could hijack something that hasn't occurred yet? And, even if the A5 convention does take place, there is no way Soros can touch it. He would have to somehow force every state legislator, or at least a majority of them, to violate their oaths of office, and they in turn would have to corrupt the citizen delegates they choose to represent them at the convention.

The only danger an Article V convention presents is to the elitists in the federal government, who, BTW, have no say or role in the organization, conduct, or outcome of such a convention.
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Apr 7, 2018 20:37:16   #
Sici, I won't be commenting about this anymore. I totally understand where you're coming from and agree but, and you know where I'm coming from but. It's good to be on the same team. Mike
teabag09 wrote:
Again, he moves too soon and he, you, I and the rest of patriots lose. Mike
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Apr 7, 2018 20:34:15   #
Again, he moves too soon and he, you, I and the rest of patriots lose. Mike
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Noted and I’m just staying the course back here watching from a distance...Like I said before and you know I keep repeating it...

Trump can’t do it alone... he’s outnumbered and he needs to use his special secret P**********l powers never before implemented and Drop the HAMMER
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Apr 7, 2018 20:24:05   #
And Sici if that happens all hell will break loose and a lot of innocent people will be k**led along with a lot of guilty people. That is also the reason we can't do much until the stars are alined. Mikequote=Sicilianthing]>>>>

I’m aware and want to believe all this is true, but T***p w*n’t make it another 2 years and the evil ones are going to do the worst things possible starting any minute.

This will not be achieved without a total bloody massacre of one or more... they have plenty of tools, tricks, weapons and counterplans in their arsenal designed long ago to destroy someone like Trump.

There are several of these processes already underway that Trump is not paying attention to.

1 = Economic reset time bomb, shuffle, Debt Bubble Nuclear bomb
2 = 76 Proxy Wars Trump is not paying attention to that will trap him at any moment
3 = False F**g GeoPolitical Catastrophe planned long ago.
4 = Wild Cards in the Homeland that will spiral us into all out chaos...

All roads circle back into the Evil’s plans....[/quote]
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Apr 7, 2018 20:06:40   #
Peewee, I've been almost begging Sici to have some patience because I believe him to be a good man and a patriot but for wh**ever reason he is dead set to go. He doesn't understand the sequence that is required and that the time is not now. The necessary pieces aren't is place yet and if the move is made before all of the ducks are in a row it would probably spell disaster. Thanks for the very clear explanation. Hopefully it'll sneak into his earhole. Mike
Peewee wrote:
Just keep watching the news. The deep state wasn't constructed in a year and won't be deconstructed in a year. Think of it like a bomb, you have to cut the correct wires in sequence to disarm it. McCarthy who we get the term McCarthyism from was right, c*******m was infiltrating our country, politics, Hollywood, etc... and they took him down. The deep state was really upset when Hitler lost the war. Everything is connected and good and evil are always at war. Evil has won inch by inch for a long time, like cancer. Now the pendulum is swinging the other way. That's the best I can explain it without getting all metaphysical or religious on you. The MSM will never tell you the t***h because they are owned. Even Fox isn't 100% trustworthy. The most honest news now is on the web. So the deep state is trying to take it down through censorship, algorithms and AI. The web will probably go down in the future for a while when it's time to defuse that bomb. Zuckerberg will appear before Congress next week and he has already lost millions and is in very deep legal trouble. Google, Eric Schmit is losing control. The CIA is now under the NSA and military control. The wires are being disconnected in the proper sequence. Bet against Trump and Q if you want to, it's your money. My advice is don't bet it all.
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Apr 7, 2018 18:47:22   #
No ma'am, that is a complete waste of money as all they'll learn is bias and yellow journalism. Mike
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The dinner is to raise funds for journalist students who compete for scholarships. The time and money is NO wasted.
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Apr 7, 2018 12:11:44   #
10-4 on that, Don. Mike
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