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Sep 17, 2016 12:16:07   #
eagleye13 wrote:
No Messiah!!!
Just not another se******n of the Powers That Be (Big Money)
Bushes, Clintons and Obama were their se******ns.
As always, follow the money. Follow the greed. Pay attention.
The proof is in pudding. Take the scales from your eyes. Use your brain.


Ok, what makes you think that Trump isn't a se******n as well? How do you know that they're not so good at playing the manipulation game, that they hornswaggled all of you into v****g for Trump as the Republican nominee? Let me break it down like you do:

FACT: Trump's been a liberal Democrat his entire life.
FACT: Trump suddenly decided that he's a Republican the moment he announced his candidacy.
FACT: Trump has NO record of espousing Conservative principles prior to his candidacy.
FACT: Trump continues through his campaign for the past year espousing Liberal policies mixed in with Nationalist populism.
FACT: Trump will do almost anything for a good payday.
FACT: The Powerbrokers want to rig the system for their desired outcome.
FACT: You don't know that Trump isn't part of that plan to rig the system.
FACT: The only two viable choices are Hillary and Trump. Mission accomplished.

Class dismissed.
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Sep 17, 2016 11:49:30   #
eagleye13 wrote:
WHAT ARE our CHOICES?

The folks speaking out against Trump are helping many people to make up their minds.

Is he the Perfect Candidate whose thoughts mirrors mine on all fronts? NOPE
Does he say everything the way I wish he would say it? NOPE
Am I absolutely sure that his motives are absolutely Pure? NOPE
Can I point to any other Dem Politician that I like better? NOPE
Is there any of the other RINO Politicians I like better? NOPE
Am I going to sit home, refuse to V**e, and let Hillary win; because he is NOT Perfect? NOPE
Do I like what I have seen for the last 7-1/2 years with the Jerk that sleeps in my White House? NOPE
Do I like the "fundamental changes" that same Jerk has brought about in MY America ? NOPE

OK, your turn to decide what you are going to do in about 4 months!
Trump's p**********l qualifications…
Obama is against Trump... Check
The Media are against Trump... Check
The establishment Democrats are against Trump... Check
The establishment Republicans are against Trump... Check
The Pope is against Trump... Check
The UN is against Trump... Check
The EU is against Trump... Check
China is against Trump... Check
Mexico is against Trump... Check
Soros is against Trump... Check
Black L***s M****r is against Trump... Check
Move On is against Trump... Check
Koch Brothers are against Trump... Check
Bushes are against Trump ... Check
Planned Parenthood is against Trump....Check
Hillary & Bernie are both against Trump ... Check
I*****l a***ns are against Trump ... Check
Islam is against Trump ... Check
Kasich is against Trump ... Check
H**eful, r****t, violent Liberals are against Trump.. Check
NOW THAT BEING SAID...
It seems to me, Trump MUST BE the Best Qualified Candidate we could ever have.
If you have so many political insiders and left wing NUT CASES--- all SCARED TO DEATH, that they all speak out against him at the same time!
Most of all, it will be the People's Choice...

PLUS

He's not a Lifetime Politician...Check
He's not a Lawyer.....Check
He's not doing it for the money...Check
He's a Natural Born American Citizen born in the USA from American parents. . .
Bonus points !
Whoopi says she will leave the country...
Rosie says she will leave the country...
Sharpton says he will leave the country...
Cher says she will leave the country...
Cyrus says she will leave the country...
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights will prevail....
Hillary will go to jail.....
The budget will be balanced in 8 years....
Americans will have first choice at jobs.....
You will not be able to marry your pet....
You will be able to keep your gun(s) if you qualify...
(Not a criminal or crazy, etc.)
Only living, registered U.S. citizens can v**e....

MUST SHOW ID TO V**E...
You can have and keep your own doctor.....
You can say wh**ever you want without being called a r****t, Islamophobic, xenophobic, etc....

Trump was not the se******n of the Powers That Be. Follow the Big Money in BOTH Parties. It that money for Americans, other than themselves?
Their se******ns were; Carter,Bushes,Clintons, and Obama.
Reagan halfheartedly; but Reagan had to make concessions to David Rockefeller and his comrades.
Making CFR/S&B/TC/48, Herbert Walker Bush, the VP was one of those concessions.
The Bushes all but ruined the Republican Party. The Demons sure cashed in.
WHAT ARE our CHOICES? br br The folks speaking ou... (show quote)

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Let's just take your first three questions...the answers to all of which were NOPE. If the answer to these questions are NOPE, were they NOPE during the primaries? And if they were NOPE during the primaries, why the hell did you elect this fraud to put us in this impossible situation?

My position is that the e******n was lost 4-5 months ago. From then on, America was screwed no matter what happens next.
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Sep 17, 2016 11:35:51   #
America Only wrote:
Q: Hillary Clinton, could you tell us what the five protections are under the First Amendment in the Bill of Rights?

A: In my past service of the many jobs I have held in both being the First Lady while my Husband was President, an also since I have been the Secretary of State, I have done everything in my power to support the Bill of Rights, why I have stood up to those that put down Women and offend the under dog and traveled the World even coming under direct fire from snipers, so yes I do believe my records speaks for itself"....

Yeah take that liberal pile of HAG and stuff it where the Sun don't shine! And next time get your facts right...Trump is a MILLION times more for the USA then K**LARY has ever been or would be.
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Actually, that was pretty good!!! You Trumpsters have Hillary pegged. No question about it. You just can't seem to muster up enough honesty and integrity to see that same fallacy in your own candidate (Trump).

You dumbasses are exactly the same as the Obamabots in 2008 that believed every word that fraud had to say. He was the Messiah!!! Remember that? You mocked those fools that cheered his every word. They adored him as if he were God himself. He was going to bring Change and fix everthing.

Guess what? Now YOU'RE the foolish i***ts following your false Messiah.
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Sep 17, 2016 10:42:42   #
America Only wrote:
Reading your drool one more time makes me wonder how long did you stew to dream up such utter bulls**t? It seems to be a hobby for your jerk wad liberals to just dream up any thing possible to have to say in favor of Hillary and against Trump. About the only thing I will worry about scratching off my bumper will be the remains of all your c****e pinkos! SPLAT...oh look another one...SPLAT! I'll leave it at THAT!
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Thanks for proving my point that you dumbass Trumpsters have a reading comprehension problem. If you went back and reread my original post ( of which that makes it at least two times that you've read it) and you didn't see this line...

"Let me be clear...Hillary is a fraud and corrupt...and so is Trump."

...or maybe you did, but you just don't understand it...then I don't know how to make it any clearer. Would a pledge be something that you can understand?

Ok, here you go: I pledge to NEVER v**e for Hillary Clinton. How's that? Am I still a C****e? Oh that's right, I left out the part that makes me a C****e...

...which is my pledge to NEVER v**e for Donald J. Trump either.

And, by your pea brain calculation, a NO v**e for Trump = a v**e for Hillary = C****e.

That is the nonsensical calculus that all of you dumbass Trumpsters try to ram down everybody's throat.

Sorry, but that doesn't work in the real world. While they've reduced it to a binary system of practically two choices (two very bad choices), there are other choices on the b****t that one can opt to v**e for. You see, I/we lost the e******n way back in the primaries, so this is just an exercise in civic duty at this point. My principles will not allow me to v**e for either main stream candidate because neither represent my core values and principles. Therefore, I will v**e for the person that I believe does. And that's my constitutional right. Hence, there's nothing that you or any of your co-Trumpster N**is can say or do to change my mind or my v**e. It's mine and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Sep 16, 2016 16:30:18   #
slatten49 wrote:
You are not alone, OldenMcGroen. My personal distaste for Donald Trump is well documented on this forum, as is my non-desire to v**e for Hillary. But, there are those who disagree with me whom I respect in spite of any disagreements we may have. I share many of your sentiments, especially with regard to Mr. Trump...but, I will not join in a gutter-fight among individuals with whom I respectfully disagree. No, you may feel alone in your fight, but you are not. At some point in most disagreements on the coming e******n, I make the determination of letting my v**e be the last word.

BTW, There appears to be a fine but distinct line between patriotism and nationalism.
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Well, you make a good point. I usually don't "gutter snipe", as I've heard O'Reilly put it. Hell, for that matter, it's been several months since I've even been on OPP. I got tired of the BS and took a long break. But, I'm growing less and less tolerant of these fools on both sides of the aisle making stupid decisions of which determine a great deal of my fate. And I'm tired of listening to this drivel about "If you don't v**e Trump then you're v****g for Hillary" stupid nonsense. This rationale is a product of the dumbed down educational system the progressives have reduced us to.

The masses are devoid of independent thought and intolerant of it!!! You either march in lock-step or you're the scourge of the town. Mob mentality on both sides. Nobody speaks of or cares a damn about principles or the Constitution anymore. Hell, they don't even know what's in the Constitution and BOR. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 5 PROTECTIONS ARE UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT (WITHOUT GOOGLING IT ON YOUR PHONE), THEN WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM. I guarantee you that Trump doesn't know them. A United States P**********l candidate should know this, but I promise you he doesn't. If even asked, he'd skit and skat around it and change the subject...in fact, it'd probably go a little something like this:

Q: Mr. Trump, could you tell us what the five protections are under the first amendment in the Bill of Rights?

A: Well, first of all, let me just say that I love the Constitution. It's a tremendous document written by some great men AND let me just say that those men dressed immaculately. Have you ever seen their clothes? They wore tremendous garments. In fact, if I were living in those days, I would have the finest suits in the country. This, I can tell you. Believe me. Believe me, no one would have finer clothes than me, but that's just me. But, I think that it's important to have a Constitution and a country. Otherwise, you have a bunch of i******s coming and going and a lot of chaos and nobody wants that. Am I right? Thank you.
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Sep 16, 2016 16:00:11   #
kenjay wrote:
Still running your cunt mouth are you punk.

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Fling your poo little monkey boy, you can't hit me.
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Sep 16, 2016 15:46:22   #
BigMike wrote:
If Trump doesn't deliver good things he'll be the easiest president EVER to v**e out in 4 years. He'd be the easiest president EVER to impeach and kick out of office. You need to divorce your thought process from the Establishment/g*******t propaganda.

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And you need to quit listening to that nut job Alex Jones. If Trump doesn't deliver, he'll have successfully guaranteed that NO other Republican or anything even resembling governance from the Right is ever elected again...or at least for a long time. And maybe that's the goal after all. It sure as hell looks like it to me. Trump is a Democrat mole sent to blow up the Republican party. I think they've done a good enough job already, but Trump is the blasting cap to finish it.
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Sep 16, 2016 15:39:08   #
America Only wrote:
Sorry FOOL...you seem to think you have something above those that support Trump....you do not have that from where I stand in life, nor with anyone I know or do business with. I'd rather be a TRUMPSTER than a frigging C****E and it must be that is what direction YOU take...but hey, you like flying a PINKO f**g and waving a speckled glove, go for it! The USA has never needed a BULL in the china shop like we do now. If the e******n does not get totally r****d and Trump is the next President, I am more than confident the issues and problems we face now will indeed be fixed in a proper manner and the USA can get back on track.
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Like all of you little Trumpster N**is, you have a real hard time with reading comprehension. You might want to go back to square one and read my initial post. In case you missed it, I'm the one that started this thread. Not v****g for Trump doesn't automatically make me a C****e you dumbass. It makes me smart and principled. Not v****g for Trump is not an automatic v**e for Hillary either. The only v**e for Hillary is an actual v**e for Hillary, of which I will never do.
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Sep 16, 2016 15:21:16   #
kenjay wrote:
Phuck you punk getting tired of your cunt mouth. You are nothing but a fence sitter. Did you move to Texas from California you can't be a native because they have balls. Just because you are to lazy to form an honest opinion doesn't give you the right to insult others asshole.

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Yeah, I see that debate is not your strong suit. Can't articulate your position or refute mine, so you call names and cry because I'm holding the mirror up to your stupid face.

Let me get this straight, if I don't march in lock-step with the Trump N**is then I'm a fence sitter? I have no balls? Well that's a little contradictory don't you think? That makes no sense whatsoever. The fact that I even posted this thread gives me more balls than your little b***h-ass will ever have. The fact that I'm single-handedly taking you all on, makes me the badass and all of you bedwetters a bunch of pussies. Typical Trumpster. Heavy on nationalist emotion, low on intellect.

Too lazy to form an honest opinion? You might want to just quit while you're way behind. They have a mercy rule. You should take it.
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Sep 16, 2016 14:53:19   #
vernon wrote:
no i'm for trump and will stay with trump.this country is in dire need of change and trump is change.i dont see anything wrong withchild care for working mothers as long as the kids are not being indoctrinated with socialism like is going on now in our grade schools.

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Ahhh yes, there's nothing more refreshing than irony in the morning, don't you think?

This is probably my favorite quote of the week...

"I don't see anything wrong with (government subsidized) childcare for working mothers as long as our kids are not being indoctrinated with socialism..." LOL!!!!!!!

Thanks Vern, I needed that. You are the quintessential poster boy for the Trumpsters!!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
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Sep 16, 2016 11:46:07   #
America Only wrote:
Sorry FOOL...you seem to think you have something above those that support Trump....you do not have that from where I stand in life, nor with anyone I know or do business with. I'd rather be a TRUMPSTER than a frigging C****E and it must be that is what direction YOU take...but hey, you like flying a PINKO f**g and waving a speckled glove, go for it! The USA has never needed a BULL in the china shop like we do now. If the e******n does not get totally r****d and Trump is the next President, I am more than confident the issues and problems we face now will indeed be fixed in a proper manner and the USA can get back on track.
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Typical dumbass Trumpster. I stand on principles and the US Constitution. What do you stand for?
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Sep 16, 2016 11:39:23   #
Ricko wrote:
Olden-yes, we are all deplorables and don't know anything about principles. I hope yours will endure a Hillary presidency. Sounds a lot like a fence sitter. Once the e******n is over that person can say, "see,I told you he/she was no good." Good Luck America !!!

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I've been ringing this bell for over a year when Trump first got into the race in the primaries son. That's my whole point. You wouldn't listen then when it counted, and you still won't listen even though it's too late. My grievance is Trump's e******n as the nominee. I'm ONE v**e. Not a thousand, million or 350 million v**es...just ONE. And it's MY v**e. My v**e will not sway the e******n in either direction because I will write in a name. That doesn't help either candidate or hurt them. I'm v****g my conscience. I'm v****g for the person that I feel represents my core values and principles. Neither of the two nominees represent me. This e******n is out of my hands, so enough with the stupid premise that if I don't v**e for Chump it's a v**e for Hillary. FALSE PREMISE. And, I'm not a fence sitter either. I'm v****g. Fence sitters don't v**e.
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Sep 16, 2016 11:29:33   #
kenjay wrote:
Yet you would v**e for the fraud. That renounced his Canadian citizenship making him a man with no country. His parents were both Canadian citizens at the time of his birth. He is not even qualified for the senate. But I don't expect you to understand. By the way my choice was Dr. Ben Carson.

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Wrong on all accounts. Perfect score!! Congratulations, you win the dumbass of the week award!
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Sep 16, 2016 11:22:10   #
Ricko wrote:
lindajoy-I find it hilarious that these self proclaimed conservatives cannot support Trump because he is too liberal. Ironically, I would challenge any of them to point out any display of conservatism in our government in the past 20 years. Conservatism is a term used by politicians at e******n time to get v**es. They talk a good game but immediately forget the terminology upon taking the oath of office. How much conservatism did we see during the Bush years ?? Now Trump is being chastised, for the new Family leave proposal for working women who become pregnant , because the plan is too liberal. I guess it is not politically correct for a republican to propose anything that could be viewed as anything other than strict conservatism. Believe both the terms liberalism and conservatism need to be banished from our vocabulary and replaced with "Common Sense". I recognize that the latter would be totally disruptive to our established government process. Good Luck America !!!
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As you can see, I'm not one of the lemmings. I stand for what I believe in and care nothing for following the crowd no matter how much flack I get. Therefore, us "self proclaimed conservatives" have been ringing this bell for a long time to no avail. I criticized Bush the same as I criticized Obama the same as Hillary and Trump. The people that you malign are staring you in the face when you look in the mirror.

You bring up a good point on labels like Liberalism and Conservatism. It seems that every "ism" gets bastardized into something entirely different than it's original intent. Classic Liberalism used to mean Freedom and Liberty before the 21st century. Once the Progressives got ahold of it, they claimed the name until it got so tainted that they changed it to Liberalism. Progressivism is the antithesis of Freedom and Liberty. Progressivism is all about centralized government and control. Hillary brought back the name "Progressive" during the 2008 Democrat campaign. And the same goes for Conservatism. Bush, Trump, McCain, and every other Progressive Republican claiming to be a "Conservative" has twisted the meaning into something entirely different than it's origin.

Interesting that you co-opted the two (Lib/Con) into one political philosophy, "Common Sense". And that's exactly what we have today. "Common Sense" today is just simply what everyone's been programmed to think by the Progressives in both parties. Conservatism has been bastardized into half Progressivism and half Conservatism to where the movement is no longer credible. Capitalism has been done the same way. Government has crept into Capitalism so much (which is the definition of Crony Capitalism) that everyone associates Crony Capitalism as just Capitalism...and therefore, it has a bad name as well.

You see, the most effective lie is the one that is sprinkled with t***h but riddled with lies.

Hmmmm? It's almost as if there was a purposeful plot to discredit all of the original intent of the Founders and the Constitution. Hmmmm?
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Sep 16, 2016 10:55:54   #
lindajoy wrote:
May I put you on the circuit to run around the nation spewing your rant??

Heck, people like you motivate we Trumpsters....

Keep it up your great for Trump v**es!!
I like it!!!!

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It is very amusing rattling the monkey cage and watch them fling their poo. No worries, I brought my plastic shield, so I'm good.
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