For years I have been called an Isolationist when I would go on my rants about keep it IN AMERICA, quit outsourcing, quit putting money in the pockets of company's that outsource its k*****g our economy and a day will come we will regret.

I cant believe the nasty things people said to me about that view 10 years ago and before that.. NOW those same people are saying what I said and they are furious no one will listen to them.

TOLD YOU SO !!!

thanks for catching my typo.. was looking at some work stuff and type what I was reading :)

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The already are and the I******S have no business being melded into the country there are still thousands and thousands that petition for acceptance through the legal channels from about every country on this planet.. they pay the fees and they wait while the flood over our North and South borders continues with no end in sight. I take specific offense to this policy which is for nothing more than v**es to keep one side or the other in power .. My parents immigrated here via the legal means and they paid out a lot in fees on both sides of the ocean and they waited their turn like everyone else. So did my In-laws/with husband as a child. All learned English as soon as they could and were proud to be Naturalized American Citizens and used their European language at home but it was and still is always English outside of the home. This is a slap in the face to every immigrant in this country who has gone about it the legal way and now are forced like those of us born here to bear a mega sized financial burden for 100's of thousands of I******s who are basically giving the laws and all of us the Finger. Kick their asses out and I would microchip each of them so when they cross over again they are found easily and I would make them criminal combatants against the USA at that point. They can do their paperwork, pay their fees and wait like every before them and all those waiting now to come here legally. And NO their children should not be immediate citizens !!!!

Why does everyone keep including Medicare as an Entitlement - IT IS NOT - it is for the people that worked and put into it - and when working parents die and leave a child the benefits they receive are limited until they are 21 then no more until they earn their own. Medicare is not welfare benefits, never has been but the current ultra liberal political climate has made it that way to raise the deduction amounts from us that work so they can steal from it for the welfare hordes.

As far back as I can remember when my parents and in-laws retired they both had to purchase from some insurance company supplemental insurance for what Medicare did not cover and they paid premiums yearly for those supplemental plans which presently are also outrageously high.

So you have the working people that pay into medicare with every paycheck, then because their benefits are not as good as Welfare-Medicaid - they buy and pay for medicare supplements insurance to cover what Medicare does not.

So who is getting the royal screw here for being good citizens and working and paying into the mandated systems.. the usuall people that work. And the usual welfare trolls get more and more on our backs while we get less and less.

Screw Obama and screw the government as it currently is - time to boot them all out, term limits and also since you have to be at least a millionaire to run for federal and many state offices.. cut back their pay, their benefits and their pensions that the taxpayers also pay for !!!!!

Here like most forums are talking to the choir as the saying goes.. its all the deadhead liberals and yuppies that need to be reached and shown what this is about.. but they're too busy making sure their ego's are satisfied and that they are one up on friends and neighbors to care.. that is the mega apathy in this country right now.. as long as I have my self centered creature comforts nothing else matters.. by the time they have lost them and wake up its already too late.

EVERY neighbor on this cool du sac in this small subdivision v**es Chicago democrats that have been put in the suburbs.. why, if they left Chicago hating it so much.. because they tell them what they want to hear plain and simple.. more sheep to the slaughter and they are too stupid and self involved to care.

You know you guys can have a heated discussion without jumping into the gutter together with the racial slurs at each other.. we've all heard them, know what they mean and it really detracts from a decent debate and discussion.

He's a board Troll that's evident who cares what color he is.. he makes jerk of himself with his trolling and comments.. not the first and wont be the last.

Bottom Line Obama is a waste of 02 because he is, not because of what he looks like .

MS not Mr. .. and yes they started it but at its height in the UK and the USA it was the Waring African tribes that were taking other members of peaceful tribes and selling them as s***es for the Western world. .. besides at the height of s***e owning here it was barely 13% of the total USA population at the time.. no where near where the race baiters want people to believe.. either way its still wrong from one person to own another . then again I guess that's what marriage is in a lesser sense :)

The discussion has nothing to do with RACE unless a few have decided to make it racial.. its about a man given the highest political position in the country - as the leader of that country who for wh**ever reason thinks that laws are meant for everyone but him ! Everything bout the man is questionable - I am born/raised and lived in Illinois - Chicago to be specific - Obama was one of our State Senators that's how people started to hear about him.. great speaker.. but did nothing and definitely NOTHING productive the whole time he was in office. Here like there now.. take vacations and campaign .. that was it. Spend the tax payers money like it was there for the taking and the list goes on. His rise to power was via his Wife .. her father/grandfather was part of the old Daley - Old Man Daley's rule with the iron fist over Chicago, Cook County and Springfield's.. inner circle. One of the big low income housing projects was named for her grandfather. The man has handlers and he is doing the dirty work of a few very very rich that want to control the world.... in return he's paid well, protected and allowed to do the disruptive stuff he does. I could care less about his SSN.. I'm still waiting to know of any legitimate job the man ever held and did .. so far NOTHING.. to me being a politician is not a job.. What we need in Congress and in the White House is Competent people that will live by the law and letter of the Constitution which they took an oath to preserve and rule by - man, woman, race, ethnic background wealth had no bearing on that - its what is in their head and their heart and that they put their country and their fellow citizens first NOT LAST which is what all of them with rare exception are doing now and have been doing way too long !

And on the issue of Race ... it was your Fellow Black Africans as the majority that captured the ancestors of some people here and sold them into s***ery to the white man. For all the abuse that the male s***es took, the women and children suffered much more at the hands of all colors of MEN ! And to this day women of all races still suffer at the hands of men of all races. So sir, you want to talk about abuse and prejudice talk to a woman and you will be sorry you started !

A slap on the hand like Clinton got is no longer acceptable with this Obama Megalomaniac! Time to get the facts and make him eat the same punishment that an ordinary citizen would be given.. impeachment is nothing anymore.. he needs to be kicked out and stripped of all power and benefits on the tax payers dollars and send him back to Nigeria where he belongs...

I have also, but here they will not let you declare anything but Demo or Rep... when I said Independent they all looked at me like I had a MARS license plate on my car
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I checked the obama-care website when it was first up before the crash.. I used a mixture of names and info of deceased relatives.. I don't want them in mine and I Put in the preexisting condition I have which is Lupus.. my premium for just me was over 800/month with a $16000.00 deductible. We have no health care policy anymore our company was too small (employee wise) to be covered, plus I was blackballed for erroneous info on my "master file".. when I fought it I was told that by law they do not have to insure anyone even if what was in my file was untrue. I mean come on they had me down for both knees and hip sides being replaced, a heart attack and diabetes. I have had one knee replaced.. I demanded to have my file fixed I was told NO. My doctor sent a letter correcting it they never fixed it. Im in Illinois home of crap head Obama so I'm out of luck this is the great Socialist State of Illinois !!

I got involved in local politics years back and served as a city Alderman and then on Police Dept Pension Board as VP for short of 10 years.... what an eye opener. Even back then I could not fit into either side and felt I was destined to be a moderate independent which I am, I cannot pledge of alliance to either side they come out of the same mold, liars, c***ts , thieves, backstabbers who will sell out their country with RARE EXCEPTION, for their own personal gains and a life-long seat at the ruling elite table. The Far Right is as wacked out as the Far Left and they take turns being the worst that Congress has to offer. I'd put alligators in the reflection pool and throw them all in there for the gators at lunch time. TERM LIMITS and no salary or big benefits.. we are at a point that only mega millionaires and billionaires can run and hold office and it becomes passed down over the years to family to keep it in the family.

THAT IS NOT 'WE THE PEOPLE" unless you are referring only to them !

Network media, papers, tv, talk show radio both sides is entertainment as far as I'm concerned... fodder for the masses, one or the other gives them exactly what they want to hear for that feel good thing vs. the ugly t***h which they need to know and deal with.

I've found over the years there is a certain bit of t***h to any conspiracy theory when it starts but then depending on the political side involved its takes on that elephant size of its own and people will believe what they need to for their own comfort zone. Sad but true...

My way of dealing is to go with my gut.. my senses and instincts are usually good and most of the time right on ... and when it comes to anything out of DC or my statehouse you can bet there are more smoke screens and mirrors than t***h when fed to the public and v**ers.

Husband's parents are Holocaust survivors - as Polish s***e labor taken at the beginning of the war when Hitler invaded Poland and the Ukraine on his way to get Russia. They told their kids/and me as adults and our children when old enough to understand the inhumanity man does to his own, hoping it would not happen again.

Unfortunately like many others that have done the same, the people of this country have fallen into the trap of Yuppieism.. my mother in law, towards the end of his first term said with tears in her eyes, I fear for you and for my grand children it seems to be happening again.

Unfortunately she is more correct than she realizes and I fear for my children and grandchildren as well.

I made a comment to a close friend the other day while being frustrated at the limitations having Lupus put me at.. he replied you will live to be 100% and go down fighting in the revolution that is forming to take back our country .. THAT I know is what you will do - He is correct if that time comes and I can do it :-o