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Feb 6, 2016 17:24:30   #
susanblange wrote:
The righteous meek will inherit the earth and dwell therein forever. Your God is really sadistic if he will burn non believers in Jesus forever. God gets nothing out of sending someone to hell. He prefers that we repent and live. Hell is not physical torture, it is mental terror. All sin is conceived of in the mind before being acted upon.


God does not send no one to hell. That is their choice. That is your choice as well. An individual can chose the wide road or the narrow road. Whether you believe it or not. It does not change anything. You said the righteous meek will inherit the earth and you are right. What does the unrighteous inherit.
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Feb 6, 2016 17:17:08   #
bobbysatellite wrote:
Susan and Jetson--- where do you get this kind of mojo jibberish? Didn't realize you two were this astute on these unproven grounds.
Did you consult snoopes on these fascinating "facts"?


Straight from Jesus Christ's
written word.
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Feb 6, 2016 14:06:59   #
susanblange wrote:
There is no fire in Hell, the fire is going to be on earth and will be the mechanism by which you get to hell. You don't burn, you rot. God is not sadistic and the punishment will fit the crimes. Except in the case of Satan, hell is not forever. If you find your self there, eventually your spirit will be snuffed out (drowned) and you will cease to exist. Hell is a black hole. It is darkness, freezing cold, hyper-gravity, and a bottomless pit. Death is permanent, you can't go from Hell to Heaven or be reincarnated. We are all judged when we die.
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This is crap from Jehovah Witness. Rev. 20-12:13, Death and hell gave up the dead and every man was judged according to their works, Rev. 20-12:14 and whosoever was not written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Rev. 20. 20:9 and Satan was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet, shall forever be tormented both day and night. This is proof that Satan, sinners and fallen angels still exist in tortured state after the final judgment. Sure there will be fire on the earth, but this happens after judgment. God burns it off to purify it and then creates a new earth. The Bible state,s the earth was created to be inhabited for ever. It states, there will always be four seasons, spring, summer, fall and winter. Why should we worry about global warning. Nothing is going to destroy this world. Nothing is going to wipe out mankind. God promises this.
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Feb 6, 2016 12:21:35   #
cSc61 wrote:
Thank you. I will take you up on your offer. Here are the things you said I don't believe have scriptural authority. I am not intimately familiar with the extra books in the Catholic Bible so maybe that is what you are referencing.

1. When the body dies, the soul and spirit, either ends up in heaven or hell. {The only spirit I am aware of is the Holy Spirit, which we are given at the point of our salvation. We don't choose whether this spirit goes to heaven or hell}.

2. But when he made the soul and spirit, they were not made to die and rot away. They were made to return to heaven or end up in hell for a while, (Bible doesn't say how long). {End up in Hell for awhile? Once in Hell, always in Hell. I'm not aware of anyone who has ever gotten out}

3. The same old soul and spirit will be placed back into it. {Maybe, but I don't see this anywhere in scripture}

4. When we die, we are judge right then. The sinner goes to hell and the believer goes to heaven. {I don't see in scripture where this is immediate upon our death. What I do see is that when Christ returns, the dead in Christ will rise first. Then, after that, those who are left. Scripture refers to this as the first resurrection.}

5. Now, you may ask, when does the sinner get out of hell? This happens after the thousand year reign. Jesus Christ opens the books in heaven, recalls the sins of all sinners, who didn't repent and change their life around. {Again, I see no evidence of any sinners ever getting out of Hell after a time. I think this is what Satan would have us believe}.

6. The believer has record books on him also. These books recorded the good works he did, for the kingdom of God, after he received the salvation, of God after repenting. {If as you say, we are judged at the time of death, what would be the point of Jesus opening these records at the thousand year reign? Scripture please.}

Thanks for your time. If you'd like, you can PM me with your response.
Thank you. I will take you up on your offer. Her... (show quote)

I will give you some scripture on your six questions. But you could google, with your Bible and find this and much more than I give you. First Ecc. 3:21 states the spirit goes back to God after death. Genesis 2:7 states a man became a living soil after God breath in his nostrils. Adam was made in the image of God the Bible says. We know God made his body out of dirt. He breath in his nostrils and he became a living soul. We know God is a spirit and can not be seen Col. 1: 15. If Adam was made after the image of God, he had God's Spirit. In other words he could not die and was meant to live forever. The same with Eve. But when Adam sin he lost this spirit and that brought on the death sentence for them and all mankind. Blood of animals could not bring back this spirit. It took the blood of Christ and his sacrifice to bring us back to an eternal life again. Even though this did not removed the bodies death sentence, it gave us a new way to eternal life if we accepted the teachings of Jesus Christ and tried to live a Christ like life. Other scripture, John 3:6, Heb. 4:12, 1st Thes, 5:23 Second question: Proof that sinners were removed and placed into lake of fire. Rev. Hell was cast into lake of fire. Those in hell were given up and cast into lake of fire. Rev. 12:14. Third: Christians, cannot be judge with sinners. If they have all been saved, given a new body, given eternal life and all come back with Jesus Christ. Why would they be any judgment for their sins. God states he has forgotten them. How ever they will be judged and rewarded for the good deeds they did after they were forgiven of their sins, God list them as gold, silver, precious stones or hay, wood or stubble. Gold is the highest, so this believer will be given the highest rewards. Stubble is the lowest. So the Bible says every mans deeds will be tried by fire, to see what comes out pure. I think all my answers cover all your six question. Hope this helps you. If not ask me some more question.
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Feb 6, 2016 08:22:24   #
cSc61 wrote:
jetson - You are free, of course, to believe what you wish, but there is almost no scriptural authority for most of what is being said here. If you believe the Bible is the inspired, inerrant word of God, then you should try to limit your doctrine to just what is supported in scripture.


Let me know what part you disagree with and I will give you scripture for it.
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Feb 5, 2016 18:26:45   #
lpnmajor wrote:
Tell that to the people living in purgatory - NM. I'm sure they can't wait. :lol: ;)


There is no purgatory. This is a catholic lie.
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Feb 5, 2016 17:03:43   #
First, a person consist of a body, soul and a spirit. The soul and spirit is embedded into the body. When the body dies, the soul and spirit, either ends up in heaven or hell. We make that choice while we live on the earth. Peter said I must shed this robe of flesh. Jesus Christ said, not only worry about someone k*****g the body , but the soul and spirit also. Jesus Christ made Adam the first man out of the dirt. The body will be recreated at some point, But when he made the soul and spirit, they were not made to die and rot away. They were made to return to heaven or end up in hell for a while, (Bible doesn't say how long). Body death is drying up and rotten away. Soul and spirit death is not drying up and rotten away. It means being separated from God. The soul and spirit is actually what we are. We live in a body of flesh. Some day after death we will be given a body that can't die. The same old soul and spirit will be placed back into it. When we die, we are judge right then. The sinner goes to hell and the believer goes to heaven. The sinner spends his time in torment and suffering in hell,(remember Lazarus and the rich man). This is not a parable. Now, you may ask, when does the sinner get out of hell? This happens after the thousand year reign. Jesus Christ opens the books in heaven, recalls the sins of all sinners, who didn't repent and change their life around. Satan, the antichrist, the false prophet and those that followed Satan out of heaven will be placed into a place, that will removed them from the face of God. This is called the lake of fire. They will be doomed to eternal torment. The believer has record books on him also. These books recorded the good works he did, for the kingdom of God, after he received the salvation, of God after repenting.
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Feb 3, 2016 14:22:09   #
rebob14 wrote:
"........faith is a gift from God, lest any man should boast."
(Paul the Apostle)

"........faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God."
(Paul the Apostle)


"These things are spiritually discerned"


Neither an atheist or a Christian are ignorant. A Christian has simply looked around and realized something made this universe and world. He realizes that being is: Jesus Christ. He rest his going ins and going outs on a creator. Most atheist know very much about the Bible and quote scripture better than many Christians. I believe I am a normal person. I did not accept Christ, until I was forty years old, yet I sometimes thought about a creator and every one, called Him God. Jesus Christ calls the ones that doesn't come to this conclusion, before he dies, fools and are corrupt. That does not make him ignorant. Jesus Christ said they have eyes, but refuse to see, have ears, but refuse to hear.
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Feb 3, 2016 13:57:29   #
oldroy wrote:
When you are a member of the Clinton family surely you can call a tie a victory, and she did just that.

The use of the caucus for nominating when later the Washington establishment people will do the real nominating is such a f**e thing and when the media jumped in the middle of that Iowa caucus at the beginning it became something it was never intended to be.

At no time in our history has the Kansas caucus that will be held later this month been considered as important as that of Iowa. It is so ridiculous that one man is saying that since Wichita is larger than any of those Iowa cities we can make that one larger and better. I have to scream PELOSI on this whole system.
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Caucus are made to brain wash you, just before you v**e. It should be eliminated. It should not be made to embarrassed you in front of your peers.
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Feb 3, 2016 13:51:27   #
Kazudy wrote:
Jetson,whoever the media h**es,and the liberals h**e and the RINOS h**e. That's who we need. Trump is a failed business man when he ventured on his own. If it wasn't for mommy and daddy's money he would be bankrupt. We don't need some one to make deals. We need some one who will tell them what the deal is. And that ain't Trump. I'll stick with Cruz or Carson,even Carly. The only way that I will v**e for Trump is if he IS the nominee against Hillary.


Great that's your choice. Carly put L. bell out of business and when she left H/P, their stock was down one half, what it was when she started. Good grief. Trump's rich father gave him two million dollars. He turned that into ten billion over the years. The President don't tell the congress, what he wants. He guides the country, but the losers up in Washington are like a auto with two steering wheels and Rep. and Dem. are trying to steer in different directions at all times. Washington has to take a little and give a little. Reid would never let a bill go on the floor, thus nothing got done. Cruz, was to far right and Rubio will be another Bush. You do know who his mentor was I guess. V**e who you will.
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Feb 3, 2016 11:09:44   #
LAPhil wrote:
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Like I said Iowans v**e for preachers in e******ns or someone who they believe are Christian. Rubio is Catholic and Cruz came from a Catholic family, wised up and became protestant later. Both still lie and c***t. You guys have not check out their records. Watch them in N.H. They will probably never mention God or Jesus Christ up there. But when they come to the Bible belt in S.C. it will be God again. What Jesus Christ say. You are not hot or cold, but lukewarm and I will spew you out.
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Feb 3, 2016 10:57:14   #
Microsoft offered to count v**es in Iowa's e******n, in which they were allowed to. Now it comes out, they contributed a fortune to Rubio. Funny how he jumped up 10% in one night. No one else has jumped that much over night. Cruz lied about Carson had dropped out, during the v****g period and he probably picked up his v**es along with Rubio. Cruz, broadcasted all that day Trump was all for Obamacare, knowing that it was a white lie. Cruz send mail v**er report cards that looked like they were from the government trying to scare the v**ers. Hillary won six coin flips in a row, when six v****g places came up with a tie. Try doing this. Yes many things seem to be rotten here. Is this what the USA has come down to. Yes I guess it has. Is this what we call Christian people now. I guess so.
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Feb 3, 2016 10:05:41   #
JMHO wrote:
Why do you h**e conservative politics? Cruz is a conservative, Trump is not. Trump is a populist, who has a liberal background of supporting liberal candidates and liberal causes...he has NO track record of supporting conservative causes, or candidates. He supports amnesty, eminent domain, single payer healthcare, and has changed affiliations five times.

Although, I am a Cruz supporter, I think Rubio will be the one to get the nomination...just a thought. The establishment backs Rubio, and he is surging right now, and he is far more conservative than Trump. I still don't think Trump will get the nomination, and if he does happen to buy it with his populist rhetoric and bully tactics, he will lose to the Democrat candidate. If I am wrong on all that, watch him rule like a Democrat if the American people are foolish enough to elect him...he will be a compromiser to the hilt, and Ryan/McConnell will love him, but we won't. Just sayin'
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You need to google Cruz and Rubio's problems that will show up in the e******n. We are not electing a preacher, but who we think, will do the best job. All these millions that pay, for Cruz and Rubio's, coming from billionaires and banks will come due in Jan. 2017. Trump owes them nothing. He needs no money, no fame and He is the only one that I can trust with my v**e. When any of the others get to Washington, they will forget us and we have the same old crap. Trump might also, but at least he has already made his fortune and the rest will be there to make their fortune. It goes on and on. I'll just agree to disagree with all you Cruz and Rubio fans and just wait and see.
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Feb 2, 2016 18:08:26   #
JMHO wrote:
Cruz will try in NH, but he does not expect to win NH. NH usually does not pick conservatives. Cruz is looking to win in South Carolina which would be a far better win...because with SC, could go the south.


In Iowa Trump and Cruz in Jan. 2016 went back and forth in the polls. They were neck and neck back and forth, with only a few percent a part. In S.C. trump has been running 20% ahead of everyone. When the others drop out you will see Trump fly away with it. I believe, when there is a choice between Trump and Cruz, to be the winner, the others that drop out, h**e Cruz's politics and ways so much, they will come together and support Trump.
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Feb 2, 2016 17:11:50   #
PoppaGringo wrote:
I wasn't aware Cruise was even running, although I do recall him being a Top Gun.


Cruz will be shot down next week in N.H.
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