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Jun 4, 2013 19:25:23   #
weneedrubio wrote:
None of those were liberal in their original form. They have since been liberalized by overk**l and over use with more and more gov't intrusion. It is not the constitution or most of the laws that are liberal, prior to the 60's or really FDR's uber-liberal BS that is, it is the liberal interpretation of them. For instance, we actually have a very liberal, very good immigration policy, to bad it is not said to be, everyone simply bows to the i******s who are exactly the immigrants we should be scrutinizing the most. And before you say it, that's because they have already shown their willingness to break our laws, REPEATEDLY I might add, while the one million per year that we let in LEGALLY get the shaft.
None of those were liberal in their original form.... (show quote)


They were not "liberal' then Right! They were just reasonable and responsible policy positions because then, even conservatives were reasonable and responsible , unlike now. But wait, you refer to FDR's uber-liberal BS ,,so what the hell are you saying? Do you even know? Immigration? What is your policy. Self deport?
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Jun 4, 2013 17:00:24   #
weneedrubio wrote:
You're not the smartest guy in the room so get over yourself. Child poverty is through the roof due to broken homes and unwed pregnancy. {You have some nerve saying that I’m not bright. Only a simpleton would take a complex, multifaceted problem like child poverty and reduce it to one simple cause to fits your viewpoint that all children should be in a traditional family. Single parents do experience more financial difficulties but there is much more to it. Educate yourself http://www.voices.org/issues/economic-success/ }

I*****l i*********n is crushing the economy and the poorest people the most and every liberal answer to this has and will simply make it that much worse. { Another complex problem that you reduce to a sound bit http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/01/news/economy/immigration_economy/}

IQ levels of our society are falling primarily to the smartest not having children due to liberal feminist bulls**t and our liberalized schools. { So it’s true, liberals are smarter and the fact that they are not having kids is d**gging down the IQ}

The medical business has been destroyed by liberal gov't intervention 30 years ago and the final death throws will occur soon due to Obamacare if we do not repeal it. { Yea I know , the free market is always the answer, government is always the problem. Let the uninsured and poor die}

And all you arrogant, simple minded assholes want to do is point out typos. Fuck you, your time is up and it's time for the men to take over again. Be careful which side you pick.{Better watch that F word….admin is watching, we would want you to be banned to the pit of hell…..then again}
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Jun 4, 2013 16:46:42   #
banjojack wrote:
Not Mr. Soetoro's race, HIS FATHER'S RACE. Out of all those certificates, his was the only one listed that way. As far as it being vetted by Congress, so was Obamacare.


What are you talking about!!? I am referring to his father. Why would I be talking bout Soetoro in relation to BO's birth?
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Jun 4, 2013 16:31:32   #
Kathleen Taylor, Neuroscientist, Says Religious Fundamentalism Could Be Treated As A Mental Illness

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/kathleen-taylor-religious-fundamentalism-mental-illness_n_3365896.html
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Jun 4, 2013 16:28:25   #
weneedrubio wrote:
Name one that hasn't.


This country has been built on "liberal" and what you would call " socialist" policies and programs for over 100 years at least"

Teddy Roosevelt ( September. 1901 to March 1909) Among his accomplishments, and contributions were:
• The Square Deal was Roosevelt's domestic program formed upon three basic ideas: conservation of natural resources, control of corporations, and consumer protection.
• The Hepburn Act of 1906 strengthened the Interstate Commerce Commission; prior to that, the commission had minimal resources to carry out its duties.
• The Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906 and the Meat Inspection Act, also of 1906
• The creation of huge National Parks that prevented the private sector from developing on it and gave all Americans access to it.

Throughout much of the 20th Century, many other US presidents have also supported programs and promoted policies that are arguably “socialist”


Woodrow Wilson (March 1913 to March 1921) In his first term as President Wilson persuaded a Democratic Congress to pass major progressive reforms. In his first term, Wilson successfully pushed a legislative agenda that few presidents have equaled, and remained unmatched up until the New Deal of FDR. During his presidency he was responsible for:
• The Federal Reserve Act, setting up the Federal Reserve System
• The Federal Trade Commission Act, and The Clayton Anti Trust Act aimed at curbing unfair trade practices
• The Federal Farm Loan Act to make credit available to rural farmers
• Presiding over the passage of the 13th Amendment which made the income tax permanent
• Signing the Keating Owen Act of 1916, which curtailed child labor but which the US Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional in 1918.
• Signed The Adamson Act, which imposed an 8-hour day for railroad workers.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt (March 1933 to April 1945) definitely made the US more socialist than perhaps other president had. In 1933 ,Roosevelt enacted a series of economic programs through legislation and executive orders, known as the New Deal, to speed recovery after the great depression. The New Deal forged a coalition of labor unions, liberals religious, ethnic and racial minorities (Catholics, Jews and B****s), Southern w****s, poor people and those on relief. Components included:
• The Federal Emergency Relief Administration provided $500 million for relief operations by states and cities, while the short-lived CWA (Civil Works
Administration ) gave localities money to operate make-work projects in 1933-34
• The Social Security Act of 1935

• The Works Progress Administration(WPA) relief program (which made the federal government by far the largest single employer in the nation),
• The Wagner Act which promoted labor unions,
• The Fair Labor Standards Act which set maximum hours and minimum wages for most categories of workers.
• Established the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) which guarantees the safety of deposits in member banks, The FDIC also examines and supervises certain financial institutions for safety and soundness, performs certain consumer-protection functions, and manages banks in receiverships (failed bank
• Established the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) which provides mortgage insurance on loans made by FHA-approved lenders throughout the United States and its territories.
• Established the Tennessee Valley Authority, (TVA) a federally owned corporation created by congressional charter in May 1933 to provide navigation, flood control, electricity generation, fertilizer, manufacturing, and economic development in the Tennessee Valley, a region particularly affected by the Great Depression..



Throughout the first half of the century, Socialism as a political force was steadily declining. During the purge of the McCarthy era, the Socialist Party virtually disappeared. However, its influence and philosophy lived on and did not deter Harry Truman from pursuing a progressive agenda.
Harry Truman (April 1945 to January 1953) In February 1948, the president submitted a civil rights agenda to Congress that proposed creating several federal offices dev**ed to issues such as v****g rights and fair employment practices. He also:
• Signed Executive Order 9981, in July 1948, desegregating and requiring equal opportunity in the Armed Forces.
• In 1948 made it illegal by executive order to discriminate against persons applying for civil service positions based on race.
• In 1951, established the Committee on Government Contract Compliance (CGCC). This committee ensured that defense contractors did not discriminate because of race.
• Presided over the Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP) - the American program to aid Europe where the United States gave monetary support to help rebuild European economies after the end of World War II
• Supported the U.S. effort to create and to join the United Nations,
• In addition he tried to put together a Health Care plan that was far more Socialist than Obama or Hillary Clinton can imagine, Almost as socialist as Canada. But it doesn't count because it failed to make inroads.
Dwight Eisenhower (January 1953 to January 1961) Ike’s increase in government spending was nearly that of FDR. IKE would be considered the most socialist president ever at the time. His record shows that:
• He kept everything FDR enacted.
• He added additional cabinet level agencies like the departments of Health, Education, and expanded welfare.
• The tax rate for the upper most wealthy was 91%!!!
• He expanded civil rights for those of color, Sometimes using the military to do so.
• He Also Created the interstate highway system

John Fitzgerald Kennedy(1960 to 1963) In JFKs short time as president he:

• Expanded unemployment benefits
• Provided aid to cities to improve housing and t***sportation,
• Funds were allocated to continue the construction of a national highway system started under Eisenhower,
• A water pollution control act was passed to protect the country’s rivers and streams,
• An agricultural act to raise farmers’ incomes was made law.[
• A significant amount of anti-poverty legislation was passed by Congress, including increases in social security benefits and in the minimum wage,
• several housing bills, and aid to economically distressed areas were passed
• Several antirecession public works packages, together with a number of measures designed to assist farmers

Lyndon Baines Johnson ( November 1963 to Jan 1969) Johnson was responsible for designing the "Great Society" legislation , the war on poverty and pursuing environmental protection goals. Among his accomplishments were:
• The Civil Rights Act of 1964 which gave every non-incarcerated American over the age of 21 the right to v**e.
• Signed the Public Broadcasting Act of 1967 which created the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and eventually the Public Broadcasting Service and National Public Radio
• Signed Medicare, which provides health insurance for the elderly and disabled and Medicaid, which covers the poor, as part of an amendment Social Security , into law,
• The Clean Air Act of 1963 which included numerous regulatory controls for air pollution.
• In 1964, Congress passed the Economic Opportunity Act, establishing the Office of Economic Opportunity to run this program. to coordinate all federal and state programs designed to help the poor
• Signed the Food Stamp Act of 1964 following the food stamp pilot program started by JFK and expanded in 1974 and 77
• Signed the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 the most expansive federal education bill ever passed and the most important educational component of the “War on Poverty”

Richard Nixon ( 1969 to 1974) . Some may be surprised to see Nixon’s name on this list. With his checkered legacy and the memory of resigning in disgrace, few remember that he did some good. He didn't grow government at the rate that LBJ, JFK, IKE, and FDR did, but he:
• Enacted OSHA,
• Created EPA
• Presided over a top tax rate of 70%
• Engaged in a rapprochement with C*******t China forging ties on many fronts


Ronald Reagan. (1981-1989) While the hero of the Republican party and normally not thought of as having a socialist bone in his body, by today’s standards, he could be accused of that heresy.
• Raised the corporate capital gains tax from 28% to 34%
• Raised various other taxes twelve times and the income tax at 50 % for the highest earners was considered high by today’s conservative standards
• Grew the Federal Government by more than 300,000 workers
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Jun 4, 2013 16:23:24   #
weneedrubio wrote:
You have got to get away from these ultra liberal sites. This page couldn't even be found. Come on man you are embarassing yourself, AGAIN!



http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/breakfast-socrates/201003/creationism-mental-illness
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Jun 4, 2013 11:00:26   #
banjojack wrote:
There is one point that seems to have been overlooked in this birth certificate mess: Obama's father is listed as "African-American." Every other black father that year, and for years preceding the "event," (and for a few years afterward also, now that I reflect), is listed as "Negro." I'm sure this is just an innocent clerical error, aren't you? Oh,DRAT! I just remembered; NO black people were listed as "African-American in the year of Obama's birth, because the term had not been coined yet. Even if it had been, don't you think it odd that out of all those birth certificates, his is the only one listed as "African-American?"
There is one point that seems to have been overloo... (show quote)


First of all his race is listed as "African" Secondly, the parent's race is determined by what ever the parent says it is...http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/04/the-african-race/
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Jun 4, 2013 10:32:58   #
weneedrubio wrote:
Why is it then that every liberal policy leads to cataclismic results? Because none are grounded in reality. The same goes for your leaders, none are fully known or grounded in real thought.



".......every liberal policy leads to cataclysmic results? "such as??

And you think that we're not in touch w/ reality? BTW it's "cataclysmic"
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Jun 4, 2013 09:18:40   #
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-entertainment/201206/conservatism-mental-illness
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Jun 4, 2013 08:44:44   #
Who is it that's crazy??:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-entertainment/201206/conservatism-mental...
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Jun 4, 2013 08:44:06   #
CrazyHorse wrote:
Quid Pro Quo, The R****d: I never even bothered to read your drivel. But is looks like from your reaction, that Dr. Rossiter nailed your sorry butt big time.


Who is it that's crazy??:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-entertainment/201206/conservatism-mental-illness
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Jun 4, 2013 08:08:47   #
This guy is an incompetant crack pot....or crack head

http://www.lolife.com/2008/02/dr-lyle-rossiter-is-incompetent/
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Jun 4, 2013 08:01:47   #
CrazyHorse wrote:
Quid Pro Quo, The R****d Prog Obstructionist: Your false allegation of "drunkard", is unattested, biscuit. Start checking your spelling or I will sick our resident spell checker AuntiE on you. Oh, and here is a little book cite that precisely fits you:

Hat Tip WND [World Net Daily] WND<alerts@email.wnd.co>
New Book: "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness", by Lyle Rossiter
I quote, in part, as follows:

"Rossiter explains with great clarity why the find of liberalism displayed by Barack Obama during his presidency can only be understood as a psychological disorder.

'Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded,' says Rossiter. 'Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.'

'A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity - as liberals do,' he says. 'A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social e******y on the population - as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and overtaxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state - as liberals do.'

Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

o creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
o satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
o augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
o rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

'The roots of liberalism - and its associated madness - can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind,' he says. 'When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."

Now crawl back into your hole, you vapid charlatan.
Quid Pro Quo, The R****d Prog Obstructionist: You... (show quote)


Of late I have taken up the challenge of engaging the extremist element of the conservative camp in cyber conversation, in the hope of coming to better understand how they think, and see the world. Let me start by saying, that while my views are light years removed from those of the conservatives, I realize that they believe in what they say as fervently as I do. And, like conservatives, I see the world through the prism of my own values. I know that we on the left are not perfect, and right all of the time, and I accept that. However, when I make a point or take a position I make every effort to back it up with objectively researched documentation. I honestly cannot say the same for many on the right who I encounter. In fact, in the course of these interactions, I’ve become fascinated by the amount of drivel that is put out on the internet by Obama phoebes and small government zealots. While I seek to engage in meaningful discourse on the facts, I am most often met with vitriol, ideological and religious claptrap devoid of substance, conspiracy theories, and a pathological paranoia and denial of reality. Rarely does anyone respond directly to points that I try to make. Having said this, allow me to share my observations.
First let me say, that I see a good deal of rigidity among conservatives. They are unable to see any nuances of difference in discussing certain topics such as Socialism. One is either a Socialist or they are not and if they are, they are always bad. They refuse to acknowledge that Soviet Socialism, and Hitler’s purported and perverted state socialism were vastly different from each other, as well as from the social democratic policies and programs that have been in effect in this country since, at least Teddy Roosevelt. They then promote the notion, that because Obama may have what some might consider “socialistic “views, (as did many presidents before him) he is automatically Hitler, or Stalin. There is also a demonstrable anti intellectualism at play here. If they reference history at all, it’s a revisionist history, using cherry picked facts. As an example, they like to point out that Hitler did in fact claim to be a socialist, and early on claimed to have drawn inspiration from Marx, but ignore the evidence that he eventually purged the party of Marxists and was no friend of labor unions. And recently, a number of conservative publications have published articles about Obama’s nomination of Esther Duflo as a top economic advisor with headlines stating ,matter-of-factly, that she is a socialist without actually explaining that further. I have been unable to find any documentation that she describes herself as a socialist, or that anyone else has either. She has ,however dev**ed a large part of her career to investigating the causes and remedies of poverty. And, she is French. In addition, they scream that “he” has “foreigners running the country” while being blissfully ignorant of the fact that she is a US citizen.
This rigidity and aversion to intellectual inquiry is also apparent when discussing dependency; welfare and other social programs. To the conservative mind, you’re either making it on your own, or you’re a slug, a leach, lazy and unmotivated. They are totally unforgiving when it comes to people who may need government assistance. They are so fearful of anything that smacks of “welfare” that they ignore the reality of the cruelty of a free market economy (and yes it is still largely free) which, ironically, they adamantly support. Far be it from me to seek to impugn any ones intelligence, but that sort of rigidity is often associated a less than Mensa grade I.Q. Just saying.
Apart from intelligence, there is the low information and misinformation factor, which results in part from the anti intellectual element, but which is also driven by the fear of learning something that is incongruent with their beliefs. Returning to the subject of dependency, they will cite anecdotal evidence of welfare abuse; recipients driving SUV’s, crack heads on food stamps and decide that all people on assistance are the same, while ignoring the statistics that demonstrate the reality of poverty and that most are not on drugs or collecting fraudulently. They blame Obama for joblessness, while simultaneously clinging to the belief that anyone can find a job if they would just get up off their duff and look for work-in effect denying that there is a shortage of jobs-that they blame Obama for. They repeatedly decry the “Obama Economy” but seem to be ignorant of the destruction left by Bush 43, or of Republican obstruction of the Presidents initiatives to fix the mess.
These same people will complain about paying too much in taxes and are seemingly unaware that taxes are historically low. They continue to whine about the 47% who pay no federal income tax but are ignorant, or pretend to be ignorant of the fact that those people pay other federal, state and local taxes, and that many work but are still struggling. Likewise, they ignore the fact that the disabled, the retired, and veterans are included in those ranks, and many of them are republicans from red states which harbor higher percentages of these “47 percenters”. They continue to make the deficit a major issue and make statement like “Obama has added more to the deficit than all other presidents combined, which is blatantly and demonstrably false.
I also find that they are very angry people. Now, I understand that it’s natural to be angry when things are not great, and for too many people life is hard, while it appears that others are getting over. It’s also a fact of political life that the incumbent is the convenient target of rage. However, while there is plenty of blame to go around, Obama is the target almost exclusively. They lash out at him in what seems to be a blind and irrational rage, sparked by the most mundane bits of information. An article appeared recently on the extremist Reagan Coaltion.com blog entitled Obama’s $100K G****l W*****g Propaganda Game. Apparently, the National Endowment for the Arts, an independent federal agency for which the president appoints a chairperson, but has no control over, is funding a video game which focuses on a young black female superhero sent to earth to save her own planet from c*****e c****e caused by social issues impacting women. While this presents an opportunity for a rational discussion of the best use of NEA funds, that moment was lost to anger and rage. One choice response: “Thay have all become T*****Rs and converted to Islam> there goal is world domination so is the NWO.(New World Order) BANKRUPT AMERICA DECLAIR MARSHALL LAW AND THROW 90% OF THE AMERICANS INTO FEMA CAMPS and KEEP THE OTHER 10% of WOMAN FOR HIS S***ES”. Brilliant! I see some paranoia in there someplace too. I will add that grants are awarded by the NEA board. And, the Obama administration cut funding to NEA by 12% IN 2012. It is hardly “Obama propaganda.
Another article in the same right wing rag screams. “Obama Commits Treason” It’s not quite clear how he may have done so, but it appears to have something to do with his encouraging talks between the Taliban and the government in Kabul. Again an opportunity to engage in meaningful debate is lost to hyperbole. Rather than discuss the merits of negotiation with terrorists, the right’s response is to call for impeachment.
There is also a basic underlying selfishness. It manifests itself in the philosophy that altruism fosters dependency and therefore is evil, but it’s really just a rationalization for not giving up even a few crumbs of the pie. Most people outgrow Ayn Rand by the time they are adults…these guys don’t. (By the way, it’s always fun to remind Republicans and Libertarians that Ayn Rand was a pro choice atheist)
There is also an element of paranoia. “They’re coming for my guns”; “He’s going to impose martial law, or sharia law”. They’re taking away our freedom but can’t say what those freedoms are. He’s going to hand over sovereignty to the UN, to Canada, to Mexico. He h**es America and wants to destroy her. And they hear things that are not said, voices in their heads. It’s been said that I want to destroy capitalism by supporting social programs and the regulation of business. I never said that Capitalism is, in itself a bad thing, and I’m not a Marxist. Someone else accused me of wanting to destroy Christianity because I advocated for separation of church and state.
Religious and racial bigotry play’s no small part. While there is usually a certain subtlety to the r****m, there are no holds barred when it comes to religion. While speaking candidly, like a real person, on a talk show, Michele Obama revealed that she and her husband did not exchange Christmas gifts. This became more proof that they are Muslims. However, it was not long before, that they expressed outrage that the White House was adorned by some 54 Christmas trees. But this was not taken as proof of their Christianity; rather it was decried as “More out of control spending!” (Perhaps they should have held the line at 49 trees like G.W. Bush. No one complained then) If the Obama detractors were a little more astute, they would know that the trees are actually proof that the Obama’s are Pagans who dance naked under the moon in the Rose Garden on the Solstice, after which they sacrifice a litter of kittens.
There is no denying that huge numbers of people, particularly conservatives think that Obama is Muslim, and always as a pejorative. A Pew survey recently found that 17 % of registered v**ers think that he is a Muslim and when looking just at conservative Republicans, it rose to 34%. What is not clear is the extent to which they actually believe it or just use it so say “He’s not like us, he different, he’s foreign” and as a substitute for more incendiary racial epithets. In any case, it’s interesting to note that regardless of the subject at hand, no matter what crime he’s being accused of at any given time, one, and usually several people will have to throw in “Muslim” as a means of further maligning him and proving that he h**es America. Moreover, what is not said is telling as well. Few others ever speak out about the slurs, indicating a tacit agreement.
The evidence of bigotry is overwhelming. Colin Powel, a Republican supporter of Obama (and yes I know he’s black) put it succinctly: “There’s also a dark — a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. What do I mean by that? I mean by that that they still sort of look down on minorities. How can I evidence that?.. When I see a former governor say that the President is “shuckin’ and jivin’,” that’s racial era s***e term. The birther, the whole birther movement. Why do senior Republican leaders tolerate this kind of discussion within the party?” A recent study by a Harvard Doctoral student analyzed Google searches and charted how frequently racial epithets like “n****r” were used in various regions. He concluded that race may have cost Obama 3 to 5% of the popular v**e in 2008. Similarly, A study of h**e speech on Twitter in the week surrounding President Barack Obama’s ree******n this week concluded that most of the r****t rhetoric against Obama emanated from southern states.

There are numerous other instances where things have been said and done that exemplify antipathy towards the President, that is exacerbated by this rigidity, paranoia, anger, r****m, and lack of information. A story surfaced about a discussion that took place in 2009, at Treasury, about giving investors an opportunity to convert their IRA and 401Ks to Treasury Annuities to guarantee lifetime benefits since so many had lost so much in the Bush inspired crash of 2008. The conservatives take on it “Obama seeks to nationalize retirement benefits-mandatory takeover of accounts”. I might add that this inflammatory story was run in late 2012, when there had been no mention of it for 4 or 5 years prior, and there was no indication that Obama was even involved in those discussions, leave alone supported the idea.

Also, here was a recent news article about a New York member of the House of Representatives introduced a bill to repeal the 22nd amendment, which would lift the two term limit on the presidency. The conservative hype was: “Obama takes steps to secure a third and fourth term, become president for life”. However there are a few problems with this. 1) This same bill has been introduced every couple of years for decades regardless of which party was in power, and has never come up for a v**e. 2) Obama had nothing to do with the bill. 3) it would never get through congress. 3) It would require ratification of 2/3 of the states- a detail not mentioned amidst the hysteria. 4) Even if passed, Obama would still have to be reelected-unless…..OMG!

And, a recent headline accurately stated that Obama will seek to reinstate assault the weapon ban. Conservatives immediately started to scream that he is a liar because he had previously stated that he will not seek to take away their guns. True, he did make that statement. However, he also stated, during his campaign for his first term that he would in fact seek to ban assault weapons-a fact that was conveniently omitted now. They deliberately muddled the distinction between assault weapons and all guns to malign the president. Of course, with all of these examples , it’s possible that the writers know full well what they are doing when posting lies and distortions . Rather than out of ignorance, the motive may be hatred and anger, and the desire to spread fear, knowing that there are many who will eagerly believe them and not bother to check the facts. Either way, it’s despicable.

Fear mongering is very much a staple of the cyber marauders. Perhaps the best example of this is the long circulating story that a 3.9% surcharge will be levied on anyone who sells a home, to help pay for Obamacare. Like so many other falsehoods that are spread, there is a small grain of t***h upon which the grand lie is built. The law does in fact mention a 3.9% tax. However, it applies only to excess capital gains on investment property sold by the wealthiest people. The people perpetrating this insanity will doubtlessly call themselves patriots while disseminating lies that can only harm a fragile economy. This is just more proof that they h**e Obama more than they love America.

I could cover other issues the those on the right distort and lie about; The war on reproductive rights as being really waged by liberals, The immigrants who come to America to get on welfare, The liberal quest to force educators to teach the homosexual agenda in schools, but I think that I’ve made my point. The dynamics and motives are always the same; to smear Obama and everything progressive any way they can, regardless of the harm that it may do to the country that they purportedly love. In closing, let me say that this is my call to engage in fact based responsible dialog aimed at finding solutions that work rather than continuing to tear the country apart. Perhaps you may even teach me something

As always , I welcome comments, rebuttals and death threats. Thank you for being offended.
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Jun 4, 2013 07:57:40   #
Chew on this boys!!


http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/#birthcertificate
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Jun 4, 2013 07:42:40   #
CrazyHorse wrote:
Quid Pro Quo, The Dutchman: Great news Eh!!! There is an old saying down south: That if the case goes long enough, the t***h will out. Obama's Hell to pay is coming like a run-away freight train down the tracks of justice. The R****d that avoids Obama's fraudulent birth certificate like the black plague and the expert Affidavit that exposes it, will probably have a heart attack. Let it be, let it be.


That's what drunkard, r****t pig, Arpaio wants, doesn't meant ot's happening. Get over it! http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/#birthcertificate
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