The protection trump is given by his cult it shameful.. If you wish, I will be happy to find the support of anyone of those you listed, just let me know and I shall do so..

excerpts from a https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/09/08/trump-mocked-us-military-troops-losers-whole-life/

Perhaps no one was less surprised last week when it was reported that U.S. President Donald Trump had called American war dead “losers” and “suckers” than his former high school classmate George M. White.

The 74-year-old retired Army veteran was Trump’s superior—the first captain, or highest-ranking cadet—in Trump’s 1964 graduating class at the New York Military Academy. White said he witnessed up close Trump’s contempt for military service, discipline, and tradition, as well his ungoverned sense of entitlement, all helped along by his father Fred Trump’s generous donations to the school.

“No, those remarks absolutely didn’t surprise me. In my dealings with him he was a heartless, obnoxious son of a b***h,” White told me in an interview over the weekend.

According to White and other former classmates at the academy, Trump’s five years there, coupled with the disregard for U.S. military traditions he learned at his father’s knee, helps explain a great deal of the president’s reported contempt for those who fought, died, or were wounded in America’s wars, as well as his skeptical view of the need for the United States to fight in places like Vietnam and Iraq.

According to the Atlantic magazine, during a trip to France to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of World War I, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 U.S. Marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers.” Indicating that he didn’t understand why the United States had intervened at all in Europe in 1917, Trump also reportedly asked aides, “Who were the good guys in this war?”


The Atlantic article, portions of which have been corroborated by the Associated Press, the Washington Post, and Fox News, also reported that when Trump aborted a visit to another World War I cemetery, blaming the weather, he remarked, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In addition, Trump reportedly said that the presence of maimed U.S. veterans would upset spectators at a military parade, commenting, “Nobody wants to see that.”

Trump’s comments appeared to be in line with the attitude he reportedly evinced on Memorial Day 2017, when he visited the grave of 1st Lt. Robert Kelly, the son of his then-homeland security secretary and later chief of staff John Kelly. Standing at the grave of the younger Kelly, who died in Afghanistan in 2010, Trump reportedly turned to the secretary and said: “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

Trump and the White House have denied reports about his disdain for the sacrifices of the U.S. military. “If people really exist that would have said that, they’re lowlifes and they’re liars,” Trump told reporters on Sept. 3. “And I would be willing to swear on anything that I never said that about our fallen heroes. There is nobody that respects them more.”

In the aftermath of the controversy over his demeaning of U.S. service members, Trump has sought to portray himself as an anti-war candidate who has faced down trigger-happy military service chiefs and will pull out of “endless wars” to keep soldiers safe.

Since taking office, many of Trump’s actions have borne out that oft-repeated skepticism about U.S. military deployments abroad. In 2018, he announced an abrupt withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, even before formally launching peace talks with the Taliban, and said he wanted to leave Syria as well. In 2019 he was widely criticized for abruptly abandoning Kurdish fighters in Syria who had fought and died to help the United States remove the Islamic State. This July, Trump also announced the withdrawal of nearly 12,000 U.S. troops from Germany, with no strategic rationale given.

Against that, Trump has lavished money on the Pentagon since taking office, boosting defense spending in each of the last three years, while he has yet to wind down the “endless war” in Afghanistan as promised, with the Taliban moving new forces into place against the U.S.-supported Afghan government.

Trump’s attitude toward the military, then, is fundamentally ambivalent: He mocks the very idea of service, sacrifice, or discipline, but he likes shiny medals, big parades, and deadly weapons. He has sought to portray himself as a tough and aggressive leader.

As president, he cultivated a love-h**e relationship with the military. Trump initially picked leading generals as top aides, including retired Marine Gen. James Mattis as defense secretary, and former Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster as national security advisor, in addition to Kelly, also a retired Marine general, at the Department of Homeland Security. Initially he called them America’s best, once calling Mattis “the closest thing to Gen. George Patton that we have, and it’s about time.” But he dismissed the same military advisors later in his first term, calling some of them “losers” and “a bunch of dopes and babies” because “we don’t win any wars anymore,” according to the book A Very Stable Genius by the Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig.

“This whole thing is as much about his disrespect for all types of service as about the military, but it was clear to me he saw value in claiming military bona fides,” said Michael D’Antonio, a Trump biographer.

Much of that ambivalence was also on display during Trump’s time at the military academy, which he has said in the past gave him an understanding of military service greater than that of actual veterans, as D’Antonio recounts. Trump said that his time at the New York Military Academy gave him “more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military,” D’Antonio wrote in his book The T***h About Trump.

White scoffs at the notion that Trump ever had any respect for the military, and he laughed about Trump’s efforts to paint his time at the academy as a genuine military initiation. “I went into the U.S. Army during Vietnam in 1968. I served a tour in Korea,” said White, whose last name at the time he was attending the New York Military Academy was Witek. “When I got into basic training I realized very quickly that at the New York Military Academy we were just play-acting. What we had been taught was a sort of surface military thing.”

But the academy did leave Trump with his love of superficial military grandeur, especially parades and medals. In 2016, then-candidate Trump told a supporter who gave him a copy of his Purple Heart: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.”

“Like most ex-military, I detest his love of having parades and having real military personnel salute him,” said Alan Lapidus, a former Trump family architect, who enlisted in the military in 1957 as a combat engineer.

Trump’s efforts at heroic self-branding also began at the academy, said White and Sandy McIntosh, another former cadet who knew Trump and his family well. Trump began wearing decorations and medals he didn’t earn, especially for academic or military achievement, and got himself placed at the head of the Columbus Day military parade in New York City as a cadet, White and McIntosh recall. “I did very well under the military system,” Trump told the Washington Post in January 2016. “I became one of the top guys at the whole school.”

His former classmates disagree. “One of the things that struck me was I don’t recall him being a good student at all,” McIntosh said. “I was two years younger than him and he asked me to go over his essays for him and improve them. It was the only time I got to see the nature of his disability. I think his grades were mostly in the D-plus or C-minus range.”

Both White and McIntosh said the incorrigible and arrogant behavior and insubordination that had prompted Trump’s parents to send him to the military academy in the first place continued at the school. What they witnessed tends to corroborate Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man, the recent family tell-all by Trump’s niece Mary Trump. She reported that Fred Trump Sr., whom she described as a “high-functioning sociopath,” helped turn his son into an entitled, self-aggrandizing narcissist whom no one could control.

According to White, who is the same age as Trump, “my mother was confronted by Mrs. Trump on three separate occasions at the academy and what she said validates what Mary Trump wrote in that book. She cornered my mother and all she talked about was how she couldn’t control Donald and he wouldn’t listen to her. She was distraught. She pressed my mother to find a magic solution to make Donald listen.” Instead, White said, Trump regularly ignored the orders given by him and other superiors.

“The most significant incident, which I got into big trouble for, was when we were taking a picture in May of 1964, and Donald Trump refused to draw his sword. I’m the first captain and I order present arms and there are five guys behind me and they draw. But he refuses. I hear behind me, ‘Trump, draw your sword.’ Donald refuses. The picture gets taken. … He was defying a direct order, showing his defiance,” White said. “He was ‘being Trump,’ showing that his ego was more powerful than anybody’s. He later showed that picture around to show how defiant he was because he didn’t draw the sword.”

White and McIntosh also believe that Trump inflated his grades and that his father’s influence—and deep pockets—were responsible for bumping him up from lowly supply sergeant to cadet captain in his senior year.

“Trump was over-privileged,” White said. “His father was rich, and he was protected. His father always considered him a genius. Trump was developing this alternative reality even then, and it was allowed to flourish because he was allowed to by the school supervisors. They directly ordered me to stay away from Trump. Everybody knew Fred was pulling out his checkbook.”

Trump’s apparent disdain for the military continues a long family tradition. His grandfather left Germany to avoid military service in the late 1800s, while his father never served. According to Mary Trump’s book, both Fred Trump Sr. and Donald Trump harshly criticized the decision by her father, the president’s older brother, Fred Trump Jr., to join the U.S. Air National Guard. Trump himself sought multiple draft deferments to avoid the Vietnam War. A number of Trump biographers have confirmed that Trump evaded the Vietnam draft, and he himself has admitted to the Washington Post, “I had a lot of deferments,” and he “always felt somewhat guilty” about avoiding service.

“Like many in his generation, he avoided serving in the Vietnam War by getting a bogus medical deferment, in his case for bone spurs, a condition widely considered permanent that somehow never interfered with his playing sports and apparently disappeared when he was no longer draft-eligible,” said another of his biographers, Gwenda Blair. “What makes Trump different is that rather than justifying this subterfuge by questioning the war’s legitimacy, he impugned the intelligence and bravery of those who did fight, calling them suckers and labelling one of the most famous veterans, John McCain, a loser because he was captured and spent more than five years in a POW camp.”

But this has always been a family affair, Blair said. “Trump was only following in the footsteps of his own grandfather,” she said. “Many decades earlier, at the end of the nineteenth century, Friedrich Trump dodged mandatory military service in Germany by emigrating to the U.S. when he was too young to serve and returning to Germany just after he turned too old.”

For classmates like White, Trump’s reported remarks are simply an echo of that long family tradition.

“It’s real simple. His grandfather dodged the draft in Germany and his father never went in. And when I came back from Korea, in 1972, I ran

Which facts did I not back up. I said that fox "news" has no integrity. They lost a 750 million dollar lawsuit for lying. FACT. I said trump pardened his criminal lackeys. FACT. I said trump tried to defund the FBI to stop an investigation of him. FACT. I said trump failed to answer a subpoena to return the documents he took to his home. FACT. I could go on and on, but you just have to read my post and tell me what you dispute. And as for the list of Biden's accomplishments, they are a matter of record. It's all concrete. I keep asking for all this evidence, that you say the people I disagree with have and all I get is childish name calling. Please, show me your evidence. Don't tell me you have evidence, SHOW ME.

It's just like trump, saying that the "s****n e******n evidence is everywhere". But when his people went to court, 62 times, the evidence was nowhere. FACT

You're not countering me because you take your info from proven liars. Don't blame my ideology. Despite your claims, I'm more of a conservative than you are and will ever be. I believe in law and order, while you make excuses for people that beat police with f**gs honoring a criminal and calling it patriotic. I believe in t***h. You believe in a fraudulent "news" organization judged, in court, of lying to the tune off 750 million dollars. I believe in personal responsibility. You believe a deplorable individual who blames "f**e news" and a "witch hunt" for troubles and indictments of his own making. I believe in the values the Republican party stood for. That republican party was destroyed by a lifelong democrat that you and your like follow as despite the h**e he has fomented and the lies he tells.

Again, you don't counter because YOU HAVE NOTHING!

Your answers are far too long to continue reading and responding to. Palestine was the name given to the region by the Romans. There has never been a country named Palestine. Most Arabs did not refer to themselves as Palestinians before Israel was established. They called themselves Jordanian Arabs in the West Bank, and Egyptian Arabs in Gaza, or Syrian Arabs in the Golan Heights. These Arab countries don't want them, and neither do their neighbors, none of whom have ever been willing to establish a country for them, and you naively keep expecting them to act rationally. Most of the people who call themselves Palestinian do so as Israeli-Palestinian. It was the Israeli Arabs who first used the moniker, Palestinian, for themselves. Hell, when Israel returned the Sinai to Egypt in 1982, they also tried to return Gaza to the Egyptians. Egypt wanted nothing to do with it. The problem really surmounted when Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. It wasn't a wasteland then, but has become one because of Hamas. They only have themselves to blame. The Arabs who don't support Hamas would love to leave but are held captive by Hamas and used as pawns in their war to erase Israel from the map. You can't negotiate with this kind of irrationality. You continue to use language that denigrates me and those who stand with "Saintly" Israel. Israel is not perfect, just as the United States is not perfect, no one is perfect. But they have built a society whereas Hamas continues to want to live in the dark ages. Most Palestinians will not openly admit it because they can't, but they would rather live in and under Israeli rule than in any other Arab country.

You want to go back. You can't. We can't revise all of history although the left rewrites it all the time. Let's go back and k**l the first monkeys who lived in trees and came out of the trees to walk upright as bipedal. That would solve everything, right? Let's return every land that's ever been conquered to its original inhabitants. I love that you are so idealistic but you're a naive foolish dreamer. You said it is impossible to solve at this time. It is also impossible to work toward this at a time when one side wants nothing more than to completely destroy the other side. There can be no negotiation with irrational terrorists. Bullies only understand one thing and that is to be put down by a more powerful willing to stand up to them. They are mostly cowards, hence the tactic of terrorism they use.

The Ottomans picked the wrong side during WWI. They were already a declining power before the war and they lost to the Western Europeans. There was no Palestine then just as there has never been a country of Palestine.

Your condescending remarks toward me as supporting extremism are misplaced and miss the mark. I don't support extremism and I recognize there are some Israelis and Palestinians who can and want to live together peacefully. I don't appreciate you trying to attribute thoughts to me that I never have. You get a lot of pushback with your remarks to others because of your holier-than-thou attitude as if you think you are the smartest person in the room. That comes clearly across in your condescending and patronizing remarks. Well, the world is not fair. Life is not fair. Israel was established by the UN. Sorry folks, that's the way the cookie crumbles. Especially if you allied with N**i Germany in WWII. You are as guilty for the Holocaust as the Germans' Third Reich is. All it takes is a few people running the government to make things miserable for everyone else, even if they don't agree with them, much like the l*****t Democraps in America are doing. And most of them can't speak out against their government if they disagree because they don't have the freedom of political speech we have in America. This is why the Democraps will eventually fail, unless they continue to indoctrinate enough citizens and newcomers to this country to v**e for freebies that they don't have to provide for themselves, and the rest of us sit by and let it happen. It is easier to take from somebody else or v**e benefits to yourself than to build it yourself. When the number of people increases to a majority realize they can v**e for the benefits they want for themselves by making others pay for it then it is no longer a democratically governed country, and it is the beginning of the end. This is exactly what Hamas has done in Gaza and what Hezbollah has accomplished in Lebanon. They have destroyed that country where Muslims and Christians could live side by side in peace. It sure as hell wasn't the Christians who destroyed Lebanon. Muslims v**ed for the Palestinian Authority and Hamas usurped the control. The peole there no longer have a say because of Hamas.

You are tired of explaining it over and over again because I'm wrong. Well, so are you buddy. There are degrees of wrong on both sides but when you want to wipe a people and nation off the face of the earth, that trumps anything else you may have to say. The Arabs have been saying this, not only when Israel was created, but also from the first writing of the Koran and the additional hadiths and sunnah added later. Living together has always been a tenuous and less-than-equal existence for Jews under Muslim rule. Militant Muslims not only want to wipe out Israel but also all the Jews in the world and the United States as well. We have been pretty good to Iran and we have given a lot of aid to Gaza. The more you try to appease them the more they disrespect you and see you as weak. They are laughing at YOU and your New-Age humanist predilections. They h**e you as much as they h**e me. Maybe more so because you're a fool. And you expect them to behave in a rational manner. You are ignoring anything YOU don't want to see and hear. I don't know why I continue conversing with you. There is so much to say that I have left out because I don't have time to dick around with your nonsense. But feel free to point out anything you think I'm not taking into consideration so as to prove I'm wrong. I know I am wrong too because things are not black and white with no shades of gray in between. I I could wave a magic wand and make them live together peacefully, I would. It's up to them to work out their own problems but as long as militant factions keep the more moderate from being able to pave their own destiny, the s**t will continue to hit the fan. Hamas threw a lot of it this time and will find they aren't not going to garner world sympathy for k*****g innocent babies, beheading them, shooting young people in the back, raping women and girls, and taking hostages to torture or execute in public. It all offends the sensibilities of reasonable rational people who want to live peacefully. Our own weak imbecile of a president and his administration of Obama holdovers are as responsible for this as the worst Hamas militant, by giving Iran money to continue their state support of terrorism. Trump managed to get opposite sides talking and reach the Abraham accord; the start of a peace process. Biden really stuck his foot in it and now has to figure out a way to get rid of the stink he caused. If he doesn't, others will and it won't be pretty to watch.

Israel will act unilaterally if they have to. The ridiculous admonition of President Biden to Israel that they need to respond in proportionality is laughable. There is no proportionality. They are patient enough to hunt down every participant in this heinous act of terror. I hope they do. I was in Germany and went through a terrorist attack by the Bader-Meinhop Gang (Red Faction Army), trained by Palestinians. Innocent people were k**led and it was only by a freak timing of the moment that I wasn't k**led. As a first responder, I saw the aftermath of the attack. I helped attend to the wounded and dead and t***sported some to the Hospital. I was also in Munich at the 1972 Olympics the day the Israeli team was taken hostage by Palestinian guerillas. Israel left no stone unturned to hunt down everyone associated with this abominable attack on innocent civilians. And right they should, just as they have continued to hunt for N**is responsible for the murder of Jews and others in death camps.

You know what? Do a Google search of Nobel Laureates from Israel and then for Arabs from the Middle East and tell me how interested Hamas is in making things better for their citizens. Hamas' only interest is power and control over people, not to make the lives better of the people living in Gaza.

Now, if you really want to have an honest debate with people quit the close-minded arrogant disdainful contemptuous intolerant haughty bulls**t and scornful derision of those who have a different, not opinion, but viewpoint, because your demeanor is off-putting. There are a lot of smart people here, on OPP. Some I would venture to say are smarter than you. Your word salads don't impress anyone. They only reinforce in others your conceit and narcissism. I got news for you. You're not all that special.

No, it's not. Hitting a 25x4 mile strip crowded with 2 million people with airstrikes for several days on end is not "defending" it's slaughtering.

All this talk about how great Israeli intelligence is but they can't figure out how to disable the terrorists operating out of an open-air prison, so they just bomb the crap out of Gaza knowing that they're in there and all the women and children that die in the process... well, they were human shields! Yeah, that's it!

Collateral damage... like an a******n.