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Dec 1, 2017 16:32:39   #
permafrost wrote:
Like a thorn in the eye..

Just like the other times we have done this..

When Ronald Reagan slashed taxes for the rich in 1981, economic growth went down by 1.9 percent the following year and the unemployment rate increased from 7.5% to 10.8%. The 1981 tax cut was so successful, Mr. President, that Reagan had to increase taxes 11 times after that.


After George W. Bush cut taxes for the wealthy and large corporations, we lost nearly 500,000 private sector jobs, the national debt almost doubled, poverty increased, and median income went down.


After right-wing Republicans in Kansas cut taxes for the wealthy, revenue declined so much they had to make savage cuts in education, health care, t***sportation, and infrastructure.

In other words, trickle-down economics failed miserably in Kansas. It failed under the Reagan administration, and it failed under the administration of George W. Bush. It is a fraudulent theory cooked up by think tanks funded by the wealthy.
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Dec 1, 2017 16:28:37   #
no propaganda please wrote:
Everything the Left Gets Wrong about Big Game Hunting

You might have seen the recent uproar over Trump’s decision on big game hunting in Africa. His office initially legalized certain aspects of elephant trade in Zambia and Zimbabwe. The order has since been halted, but it gave us a chance to see another way that liberals are completely wrong.

They criticize big game hunting as savage. They say it hurts endangered species to allow h****rs to k**l them, and they assert that h****rs are cruel and heartless. The t***h is, big game hunting is the essential lynchpin in animal conservation, and h****rs have led the world in protecting endangered species from the start.

Conservation was Founded by H****rs

This important fact is completely missed by the left. It was Teddy Roosevelt and fellow h****rs who first recognized the need for conservation efforts. They noticed that it’s important to keep parts of the world wild, and that doing so was the best way to protect endangered animals. Even in modern times, big game h****rs, on average, have a much deeper and broader understanding of the intricacies at play in managing ecosystems.

In an obvious sense, h****rs need to protect the longevity of their prey just to maintain their hobby. On a deeper level, their direct interactions with varying ecosystems gives them the firsthand knowledge to see what does and doesn’t work in concentrated conservation efforts. Their conclusion is the same as the many scientists who have studied these issues: habitat destruction is the leading cause of population declines in endangered species.

The H****rs

H****rs aren’t just protecting their hobby. Countless surveys and investigations have shown that they care about issues tied to conservation on a personal level. A full 86 percent have made it clear that they prefer to do specialized hunting on conservatories where their money can be shown to do local good. They are consistently willing to pay the same price for a lesser tag if it means the animal they are k*****g has to be put down anyway.

As many as 90 percent of big game h****rs actively avoid hunting in regions where governments exceed endangered animal quotas, fail to quell illegal hunting or generally don’t contribute to conservation efforts. These are a conscientious group that puts their money where their mouths are by selectively purchasing tags and licenses in places where that money can do the most good.

Results

That overarching conscientiousness is why big game tags have been so successful at helping endangered species recover. One of the best success stories of all time is the white rhino. At its worst, population numbers dwindled to the hundreds. Big game trophies were legalized and made extremely expensive. Within a decade, land owners had invested so much into preserving habitats that white rhino numbers exceeded 11,000.

In Zimbabwe, elephant conservation land doubled when international export licenses became available. The habitat preservation helped tens of thousands of elephants thrive, even in the midst of a notoriously corrupt government and massive poaching. The resources provided by big game h****rs were and are enough to actively protect reserved land. Elephants are still struggling outside of the conservation zones, but within, they are thriving.

The Money

Ultimately, like most issues, this boils down to money. Too many governments around the world lack the resources to pay to protect endangered species. This is especially true in some of the more desolate regions in Africa. Battling starvation tends to be the priority. The two primary revenue streams to protect wildlife comes from ecotourism and big game hunting.

Ecotourism isn’t viable in very many regions. To draw enough tourists, the conservation has to be close enough to major ports of travel, and it has to be open enough for people to see well.

Big game hunting doesn’t face those limitations. H****rs often want to pursue animals in their true natural habitat, which means their conservation efforts produce the best possible land for helping endangered species rebound. The number of animals k**led for trophies is a scant fraction of the population growth seen from the revenue those tags produce.

This has never been seen more clearly than with the Bubye Valley Conservancy in Zimbabwe. It is the most important conservancy in the world for lions and rhinos, and it is entirely funded by hunting fees. It produces thousands of local jobs and is credited for roughly half of the population rebound of the lions and rhinos that have found safety within the borders.

There are countless examples that show that big game hunting is the most cost-effective and sustainable approach to protecting endangered animals. H****rs are the people who best understand how to protect animals and preserve ecosystems, and they do so with vigor.

~ American Liberty Report
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Do you not think liberals go big game hunting,shouldnt even bring politics into this subject there are as many conseratives as there are liberals against hunting but yes what your saying about conservation is correct,people dont understand,all they ever see is elephant tusk
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Dec 1, 2017 07:02:47   #
Super Dave wrote:
No.

The shoe is stuck in your derriere.


It amazes me they you are so taken about peoples rearends
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Nov 30, 2017 19:08:46   #
JFlorio wrote:
I was being polite. No one on this thread cares what you think........about anything.


So you speak for everybody ,so you only care about people that believe like you speak like you,and believe all the hog ,wash your being fed.And you say liberals are stupid that they believed everything they were being fed,now the shoe is on the other foot.
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Nov 30, 2017 18:06:13   #
proud republican wrote:
He is giving his whole salary this quater to HHS dept to treat Opioid crisis.....I have never seen Obama donate any of his salary to anything,,,,,


Obama wasnt a billionare either,and trump will take a big tax deduction for it anyway.
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Nov 30, 2017 18:03:37   #
padremike wrote:
Let's not forget what they tried to do to Justice Thomas too. Same tactics over and over and over!


Yea he got a pass ,he wouldnt today
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Nov 30, 2017 17:12:21   #
JFlorio wrote:
We believe you’re the only one on this thread that doesn’t.


I can see why somebody like you would think that.
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Nov 30, 2017 17:09:13   #
kankune wrote:
What deductions are being taken away??


Its hard to say right they keep changing their minds minute by minute ,but the big thing right now is if the middle class tax cuts end in 10 years,Then in 10 years middle class taxes go up .business and the richs are permanent,for you thats fair.If as the right says the rich pays all the taxes,whose going to make up the short fall,could that be the gop plan to do away or cut ss and medicare. They h**ed the new deal since it was enacted,now they have total control look out.
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Nov 30, 2017 14:32:41   #
proud republican wrote:
I dont think you can call your President "Fing Moron" infront of reporters and still be Secretary of State. Im surprised Rex Tillerson lasted that long


If trump doesnt like the t***h,then i guess tillerson will be gone.
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Nov 30, 2017 13:52:16   #
proud republican wrote:
According to FOX NEWS Rex Tillerson maybe out late January of next year......Mike Pompeo of CIA may take his place,and Sen,Tim Cotton may take Pompeo place at CIA...Not a boring moment with this Administration!!! What do you guys think??


I believe tilllerson is the only one in this administration now that has any common sense.
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Nov 30, 2017 13:49:16   #
kankune wrote:
Basically, it's not what's in the tax bill that annoys you....its that the Republicans are going to pass a bill that is good for the nation. Heaven forbid you want to see anything pass that would actually help American citizens!


No what annoys me is what its going to mean for the middle class and the elderly,im all for cutting taxes but not on the backs of the middle class and thats exactly what this will do.when you give middle class cuts and take away deductions but big business get their tax rate lowered and keep all their deductions that should tell people something,and thats whos writing this bill.
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Nov 30, 2017 12:52:40   #
boatbob2 wrote:
WHY,do the demoncrats,think that their party,are the greatest?? look at all the major cities,run by demoncrats,Theyre ALL falling apart.Especially look at detroit,What a joke,hell,you can buy a fix it up house for $4,700 dollars...I wouldnt take one,if they paid me.supposedly there are 40,000 houses in detroit vacant,and falling down.


There seems to be many buying them and fixing them up.
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Nov 30, 2017 12:49:04   #
kankune wrote:
Huh???? What??? Really???????


Well take what republicans are offering and see what the middle class get. To pass something like this tax cut bill just to give republicans a win ,everybody should be up in arms,Do you think trump even knows whats in this bill?
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Nov 30, 2017 10:31:57   #
kankune wrote:
Waste their time???? So what else are they doing that is keeping them sooooo very busy??? Oh..thats right...obstruct..obstruct....obstruct..Such a heavy duty workload!
NOT!!!!


I think the democrates are trying to keep the middle class and elderly from getting their brains screwed out
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Nov 30, 2017 08:34:18   #
DJRich wrote:
And while it is always good to embarrass trump and the republican stooges, the fact that I personally will benefit from the stock "buy back" of several of these companies, makes me enjoy the dilemma that trump and fox will be facing.

And no matter what happens to trump, I will be laughing all the way to the bank.

And enjoying how foolish trump and his stooges will look when the business news starts reporting on the trump folly.



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-29/trump-s-tax-promises-undercut-by-ceo-plans-to-reward-investors?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics
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Well one thing for sure when the middle class and the elderly figure out how bad their going to get screwed,it will most certainly put democrates back in the whitehouse.
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