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Nov 9, 2023 10:13:57   #
Bruce123 wrote:
Second Peter 3:
Jude 1:18
Mocking God is something I would not recommend.

...the unforgivable sin....
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Nov 9, 2023 10:09:50   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
CNN poll: Trump Widens Lead over Biden
CNN: Trump leads Biden in 4 key swing states
NYT: Trump Leads Biden in 5 Critical States as V**ers Blast Biden
CNN poll shows Trump is in a league of his own as GOP primary hits fall sprint
CBS: Trump maintains dominant lead among 2024 Republican candidates
NBC polls show Trump with commanding lead in 2024 GOP race
CNN: Trump leads in polls, money – and understanding the delegate race
url=https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/07/trum... (show quote)


As usual, Blade: 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍!!!!!
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Nov 9, 2023 09:51:15   #
Airforceone wrote:
A financial issue are you kidding me now that is comical bankruptcy is because of mis Management. Do you realize how many contractors and sub contractors, vendors and employees he screwed for non payment of services by filing bankruptcy.j
See this is the Trump supporter that is in denial as to the many people he screwed even before he ran for president.

NO ONE LOST ANY JOBS. NO ONE LOST ANY INCOME. NO DEBTS WERE DISCHARGED. NO CREDITORS WERE ANGERED!! CONTRACTORS, SUB CONTRACTORS, VENDORS AND EMPLOYEES WERE NOT SCREWED - THEY WERE HAPPY ABOUT THE BANKRUPTCIES!

TRUMP USED CHAPTER 11 FOR EACH BANKRUPTCY. HE WILL PROBABLY USE IT AGAIN! BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL!!!!

CHAPTER 11 IS USED FOR CORPORATE REORGANIZATION....the operation of the company is scrutinized and the things that are going wrong are fixed....the company runs much better.

TRUMP HAS NEVER FILED FOR PERSONAL BANKRUPTCY.

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Get your facts straight, Airforceone. You are posting lies.
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Nov 9, 2023 09:40:10   #
Airforceone wrote:
You’re saying Trump did not go bankrupt 7 times.

No. Trump did not go bankrupt 7 times. He has never filed for personal bankruptcy.

6 (SIX) of his 500+ businesses did. And they were not the kind of bankruptcies that shut those businesses down, they were "reorganization" bankruptcies where no one lost jobs. No one lost income. No debts were discharged. And the business ran better and was more successful after the deadwood was rooted out with the bankruptcy.

And it is legal. Many MANY businesses use this type of bankruptcy to fix problems in their companies....not just Trump. It is common business practice. That's why there is a law for it. Trump took advantage of the laws of our land. You would, too, if your business was doing poorly and you wanted to turn it around. Chapter 7 bankruptcy is where a company is liquidated....Trump did not use Chapter 7..he used Chapter 11 (corporate reorganization) for all of them. Those businesses will be monitored for a while after their bankruptcies by a court.
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Nov 9, 2023 09:26:33   #
America 1 wrote:
“Was Jesus a Jew?
How would you respond? Does it matter?

Here’s the t***h. Not only was Jesus Jewish but so were his closest disciples and almost all of his first followers.

In fact, the whole movement was decidedly Jewish.

It wasn’t until after his death that the movement spread to include many Gentiles.

Well into the fourth century and in some places longer, Jewish followers of Jesus practiced Judaism, retaining their Jewish identity.

In this blog post, I will discuss how Jesus and his disciples were most aligned with the Pharisees of the time, and how their Jewish identity not only helped establish the origins of Christianity but also helped preserve the Jewish roots of the faith.
I’ll also address the issues church leaders must attend to in order to uplift Jesus without condemning Jews.

1. Jesus the Pharisee
One of the most frequently misunderstood aspects of Jesus is his relationship with the Pharisees. In the Gospels, Jesus is often depicted arguing with the Pharisees, but the Pharisees were not the enemy of Jesus. The debates between Jesus and the Pharisees were vigorous discussions between colleagues about specific interpretations, beliefs, and practices of the Torah. In many ways, Jesus was very much aligned with this Jewish sect. His teachings and practices were deeply influenced by their teachings, including the Golden Rule.

So what were the Pharisees? They were a progressive lay movement that wanted “to renew and extend the observance of Jewish practice in society.” To increase people’s sensitivity to holiness, the Pharisees “made a fence around the law. In other words, they established behavioral boundaries around God’s commandments. That way, they could be sure of not sinning by refraining from what leads to sin. Like the Pharisees, Jesus was, at his very core, a reformer who cared about holiness.



2. Jesus and his Jewish Disciples
Not only was Jesus a Jew in good standing, but so were his disciples. They were all practicing Jews, following the traditions and customs of Judaism. The disciples continued to follow Jewish customs, such as Sabbath observance, even after the resurrection of Jesus. They knew that their faith in Jesus as Messiah did not require them to abandon the Jewish traditions of their forebears. Jesus had t***sformed their understanding of the Jewish faith, but their Jewish identity remained intact.

Even the way that Jesus instructed the disciples was entirely Jewish. For Jesus and other Torah teachers of his day, disciple-making was a hands-on venture that required one’s whole being. No wonder Jesus advised his students to count the cost of discipleship. It was steep! One scholar notes that this itinerant teacher/student form of learning was the ancient equivalent of postdoctoral work; disciples could only manage it for three years. After that, they would go back to a more normal life of fishing, or masonry. In Rabbi Jesus’ classroom, instruction was not removed, or academic. Rather it was intense, hands-on learning.

3. The Early Jewish Christian Community
The early Christian community was predominantly Jewish, and Christianity was initially seen as a movement within Judaism. Jewish Christians continued to follow Jewish customs and traditions. There is evidence that some Jewish Christians continued to practice Judaism while believing in Jesus as the Messiah; this is part of the context behind the Book of Hebrews.

The early Jewish Christians saw their faith as an extension of Judaism, not a replacement for it. Jesus and his disciples had made clear that Christianity was rooted in the same God worshiped by the Jews and was part of the same covenantal tradition. Unlike later Christian denominations, which began to distance themselves from Judaism, early Jewish Christians embraced the Scriptures and customs of their Jewish heritage while also honoring and venerating Jesus as Messiah and Lord.

4. The Jewish Roots of Christianity
Jesus was Jewish, and so were his followers. Christianity began as a Jewish movement, and its roots can still be seen today. The Jewish identity of Jesus and his disciples helps us understand the origins of Christianity and reminds us of our connections to Jewish traditions. As we move forward as Christians, we must strive to respect and honor the Jewish identity that Jesus and his disciples embodied.

Why it Matters that Jesus and His Followers were Jews

Today, many Christians forget the Jewish identity of both Jesus and his followers.

That poses a problem that church leaders must attend to.

When Jesus is seen as a Christian who stood against Jews, especially Pharisees, it sets up an ugly “us vs. them” dynamic between Christians and Jews of today. If we forget that Jesus and his movement were primarily Jewish, then Jews become the enemy of Christianity, or those who must be converted to, or simply ignoramuses. These attitudes are dangerous. Violent anti-Semitism is on the rise worldwide. Hurting or k*****g Jews in the name of Jesus is the worst perversion of Christianity.

In the polarized world in which we live, loving one’s neighbor as oneself, which is both a Jewish and Christian teaching, means Christians are bound to respect, honor, and value Jews. Christian leaders can play a vital role in this expression of Jesus’ teaching.

https://rebekahsimonpeter.com/was-jesus-a-jew-or-a-christian-and-does-it-matter
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Very interesting read! Thanks for posting, America 1!! This sentence resonated with me: "Hurting or k*****g Jews in the name of Jesus is the worst perversion of Christianity."
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Nov 9, 2023 09:21:28   #
RandyBrian wrote:
As usual, you are twisting and distorting both what we say, and what you said.
I made it very clear that it is of no consequence what your opinion is, on this issue that YOU brought up, because you were 'curious' how people would respond.
Your implication is that it bothers me that you call Jesus a Palestinian, and that is simply not true. I think it is silly because it is inaccurate. Like claiming an Irishman is a Druid, or a Frenchman is a Gaul. Or the citizens of Troy were Turks.
But that is just my opinion. As always, your points are childish, and designed to make yourself FEEL intellectually superior.
That is fine with me too. I'm compassionate that way, and try to indulge the childish antics of the emotionally needy.
But what a waste of a good education!
While the rest of us are debating questions of right and wrong, responsibilities, and the consequences of national decisions, YOU are so very busy striving to satisfy your ego by instigating and debating minutiae.
As usual, you are twisting and distorting both wha... (show quote)


Well said, Randy. And spot on! Twisting and distorting what other people say (as well as what HE, HIMSELF says!!) is one of straightUp's more diabolical tactics. "Diabolical" because when he is caught lying he needs to make it look like it's what the others are saying is the lie...not him, if he can help it. And when he can't use someone else's words to get out of a lie, he just lies some more. He's not worth wasting your time on, imo.
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Nov 9, 2023 08:42:42   #
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
President Trump was the president of JOBS, JOBS, JOBS and brought more of the auto industry back home that the United Auto Workers Unions v**ed for Trump!

More B****s, Hispanics and women were employed under President Trump than all other p**********l administrations combined! I can't understand how you get away with your incessant lying, as if it were a coming from a diseased and drugged stooge.

Thomas Sowell is right. Logic cannot reach the minds of deranged socialist thieves. Freedom demands management by law and order.
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That is the absolute t***h! Every word!! 👍👍👍👍👍!!!
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Nov 9, 2023 08:31:07   #
Rinaldi wrote:
Frequently conservative politicians get on right wing media, especially the fools at fox, and they make the

statement that: America was founded on Judeo-christian principles and values.

If that is true, then are the beliefs of jews and christians equal based on their teachings and interpretations?

Or is one set of beliefs more important than the other set of beliefs?


To one who has faith,
No explanation is necessary.

To one without faith,
No explanation is possible.
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Nov 8, 2023 20:47:31   #
padremike wrote:
All you've shown is your weakness. You're a small mind with a big mouth that likes to dish it out in spades but can't take it. Everyone of substance knows exactly what you are.

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Nov 8, 2023 20:20:11   #
facts matter wrote:
What "chaos and criminality that has occurred during this current administration"?
You seem to be forgetting the 11 convictions of his inner circle during the trump administration. Or the Jan. sixth r**t during the trump administration. And you want the man/child that wants to terminate the Constitution to "restore the wisdom behind our Constitution" What world are you living in? Bizarro world?
Biden has tried to bring compassion, civility, credibility, and decorum back to the Presidency after 4 years of chaos.
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You can call yourself wh**ever you want....as far as I am concerned, after reading what you write here to me and many others, you are one of the more extreme l*****ts on here. And nothing you can say to ME will change that OPINION of mine.

The reason I did not answer your question is that others already had by the time I had a chance to get back on the forum....I don't know why it is, but apparently you need it to be ME that answers you...so here ya go:

WEBCO posted these reasons and I agree with all of them:

"The lawsuit in New York for one.

He's created the mess at our southern border.

He stimulated inflation.

He's stimulated our energy problems.

He helped create the war in the Ukraine.

He's stimulated the racial tensions in this country.

He created an FBI division to target parents as d******c t*******ts.

Need more problems that are a result of our current administration?"


WEBCO also posted this, which I agree with:

"Inflation, 2 wars, an open border(also illegal) allowing over 8 million i*****l a***ns into our country, losing 85,000 migrant children, disregarding th SC on student loan forgiveness(also illegal)

I can go on and on. You are definitely not a moderate or conservative by any normal standard. You aren't bothered by H****r getting a sweetheart deal, the likes of which have NEVER been offered to anyone before. Or by the unquestionably NEVER before seen prosecution of Trump in the NY case. All conservatives are upset about these facts, quite frankly ALL Americans should be."

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The charges against Trump regarding bank fraud are f**e because not a single person was hurt by the bank's acceptance of Trump's accountants valuations of his properties. The bank was okay with it, the buyers were okay with it and the sellers were okay with it. The loans were paid on time - not one single late charge - and they were paid in full to the bank's utmost satisfaction. BUT, you lefties want to nail Trump to the wall because you don't LIKE the way the business was conducted (to EVERYONE's satisfaction...not just Trump's!).

Letitia James promised....no she VOWED....that if she was elected, she would make it her first priority to "get" Trump. The Judge in this case has made it very clear for a very long time how biased he is against this person he is presiding over. And the media is complicit in the f**ery by advancing the lies and biases for everyone to hear about...(I hope that backfires in the near future. It usually does when the media gets involved these days.)

This trial could have happened years ago. These issues are not recent - they go back to 2011! The timing of this persecution attempt is highly suspect. If you think that waiting until right before the e******n to bring all this to light is just a coincidence, then I have a very nice bridge to sell you in New York, priced cheap just for you!

This judge thinks Mar-a-Lago is worth $18 million!!! The PARKING LOT is worth that! And this is what the JUDGE that is presiding over Trump believes! If he is that dumb, he has no business sitting on a bench anywhere.

I have also posted this quite a few times - enjoy: https://www.thegivingtrump.com/

And I have posted this many times as well - List of Trump Accomplishments:

1. The lowest-paid 25% of Americans had a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country’s highest-paid workers. This benefits African Americans because many, according to Associated Press research cited in 2018 by USA TODAY, are in low-paying jobs.

2. In 2018, Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice reform bill that enacted reforms that made our justice system fairer and helps former inmates return to society. More than 90% of those benefitting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are African Americans.

3. Under Trump, poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.

4. Pre C****-**, African American unemployment was at an all-time low.

5. The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.

6. The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed African Americans, and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.

7. Trump signed the first Perkins C.T.E. reauthorization since 2016, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.

The previous noted actions by the Trump administration are all substantive and measurable. The Trump administration has done considerably more for the African American community than several previous Democrat administrations. Considering those accomplishments, it is puzzling that black leaders continue to march in lockstep with the Democrats. Where are the free thinkers in that community?

From an economic standpoint, the Trump administration has made great strides.

1. Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.

2. The Trump administration made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.

3. It withdrew the U.S. from the job-k*****g T***s-Pacific Partnership, a major change in trade policy.

4. The Trump Administration secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.

5. It approved up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation, but announced a total of $28 billion in aid for farmers in 2018 and 2019.

Other accomplishments include a dozen hostages freed, moving the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, initiating historic tax cut legislation for Opportunity Zones and fulfilling his campaign promise to improve the Veterans Administration, just to name a few.

Trump’s accomplishments are many, but you would never know listening to the Democrat-controlled liberal media. As far as they are concerned, none of these things happened.

Trump has achieved many of his goals, while surviving a corrupt impeachment investigation, hostility by a liberal press and a continuing p******c of epic proportions. As I have said before, I wish Trump was more p**********l, but he is not going to change his demeanor. When I measure his accomplishments versus his status on the social register, the social register pales in comparison.

https://www.gadsdentimes.com/story/opinion/columns/2020/10/18/trumps-long-list-accomplishments/3671585001/
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Nov 8, 2023 18:36:50   #
RascalRiley wrote:
Hey Pardre, if I have to put up weirdos like you on this site you have to put up with me, or you can leave.

You do not make the rules.


You're still not part of our "we".

You are a "wannabee" American. Why are you not on a Canadian forum? Why do you come here and show us Americans how much you h**e us? What is so wrong with Canada that you find yourself spending hours, days, months, years on an American forum arguing with Americans about what's wrong in OUR country that you don't belong to??

You are not American.

You don't live here.

You don't v**e here.

You don't even LIKE us here.

Do you wonder why people keep telling you to leave??? You would tell yourself to leave, too, if you were "one of us" !!
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Nov 8, 2023 18:15:30   #
permafrost wrote:
This may well be the dumbest post of the week.. no one ever made Lady Hillary a cult leader , I for sure gave her my v**e not because she projected well but because in 2016, she was by far the best choice, it was the lies from 20 years and russian aid on social media which made the loser of the v**e able to soil the oval office of our country..

did you see Hillary cry?,,, I missed that.. oh well we have more current problems and much more in number..

Oh,, you seem to have no idea what a cult is.. not simply a name calling facility.. that is all the right wingers do.. no solution, no policy, no plan. not even good wishes.. just name calling..
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Of course she cried...she said "They're NEVER going to let me be President" and cried like the bratty witch that she is...

Contrary to your belief that you are the king of everything in the world...you do not get to define what a cult is or is not. You say that someone who likes a political candidate and wants to v**e for them is a member of a cult....then so are you by your own logic! LOL!

Hysterical Hillary was by far a huge bullet that America dodged when Trump beat her in his landslide.

You support a woman who is okay with her husband screwing women all over the place, including the Oval Office itself, which no matter how hard you try, you can't deny because her husband had to admit it when the evidence became too much for him to lie about. In fact, the evidence was so overwhelming that "I didn't have sex with that woman" became his motto and his legacy. What kind of a woman stays with her husband after he has affair after affair right in front of her - and in the Oval Office, for goodness sakes??!!! Who wants a woman in charge who doesn't care who her husband screws or how many of them he screws?? YOU DO!

You support a woman who has a reputation of having the most people quit working for her because of her temper tantrums. She was so mad when T***p w*n she wouldn't even go out and give her talk to her own supporters. John Podestra had to go out at midnight to tell her sad, crying supporters she was too "upset" to come out and talk to them! It was said in many news sources the next day that Hillary became physically violent towards Robby Mook and Podesta and had to be briefly restrained - she threw a bottle of champagne at a TV and broke a window among other things. When asked about rumors that Hillary was drunk on e******n night, a news reporter responded, “She was. She was in a “psychotic drunken rage” doctors had to add sedatives to try to sedate her enough to make stop throwing a tantrum and calm down.” And she was so doped up and drunk they couldn't let her be seen that way until she sobered up at around 2 in the morning.

If this is the "lady" you support, then I submit that you are brainwashed or willfully blinded to her disturbing, pathological traits that scare the 💩 out of most people. She's the kind of person you cross the street to avoid because she is so explosive....and you just LOVE her! What is WRONG with you??

Yup....in my book, you are a died in the wool, doe-eyed piece of mush who gushes like a boy with a crush on his teacher when you hear her name....just like Hare Krishnas do when they dance around singing praise to Vishnu. Do you dance like that when you hear her name or see her on tv?? I bet you do!!

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Nov 8, 2023 17:14:35   #
Marty 2020 wrote:
Anyone who still supports democrats is either stupid, or a crook!

Both, from what I can see....
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Nov 8, 2023 14:15:41   #
permafrost wrote:
HA HA HA.. Lady Hillary is not even involved any more... did you not know that? And I feel bad, perhaps I should send her some money. Is she paying huge bills to lawyers for some dastardly crime????

LOL, a hillary cult.. what a thought...


So, according to you, one cannot be a cult member for someone who is not "involved" anymore??

There are still Moonies who worship Sun Myung Moon....Hare Krishnas who worship Vishnu...Scientologists who worship L. Ron Hubbard. But you think your worship of Hillary is not considered in the same vein as those cults because she's not running for president?? That's one of the sillier things you've said on here! Those people in those pictures I posted above are crying because Hillary lost....and they could hardly contain themselves. Some of them were hospitalized because they were so "distraught". That is the exactly how your cultists behaved when their "Swami Hillary" didn't win! Hillary is even still alive! Of course she's "still involved". You have been bathing yourself in the aura of "Adrenochrome Hillary" ever since she tried to cry her way into a win when Obama beat the 💩 out of her in the 2008 primaries and Trump beat the 💩 out of her with his 304 v**es to her 227.

Here are some more "Crying for Hillary" cult members...or maybe the better name for your cult would be "The Adrenochrome Hillary Cult"...

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Nov 8, 2023 10:57:09   #
pegw wrote:
I have heard all kinds of claims about i*****l i*******ts v****g, but I have not seen a whiff of evidence. So how many i******s v**e? 3, 5 or 10?


Have you heard that there are 16 states that have no v**er identification laws AT ALL?? (Those states are: Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, Illinois, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada and Hawaii.)

In those states, people who want to v**e can register in any county with any name and any address...because they do not have to show any ID. And I know this to be true first-hand because I live in New York, and when I went to register when we moved to a different county, I handed the man my ID, and he pushed my hand back and said he could not accept my ID because if he did, his whole office would be shut down and fined a large fine. It was a state law. I could have called myself "Suzie Que" and gave a f**e address and signed the registration form in that county (and five or six others if I were to be so inclined) and then go to v**e at the polling place in those counties, signed my name the same way I did on the Registration forms (and NOT show ANY ID to the lady who took my name at the poll) and cast my v**e.

If I were v****g illegally, how could they catch me if I am not required to show any ID??? If no one checks my signature??? If i******s (or anyone for that matter) can do this in any of those 16 states, what's to stop anyone from v****g in several different places in those states?? (There are a lot of states that require minimum ID - like a no-picture ID, etc., too.)

And if you're going to tell me that they will check their registration rolls, I can tell you that at least in New York, Massachusetts and Washington (places I have lived and registered to v**e without having to show any ID at all) have not updated their registration rolls in years....in some places decades or even never! Cities, towns, hamlets, and villages all have registration rolls that need updating all across this country! People who have died, changed their names or moved have not been stricken from those rolls - and probably a lot more than just those 3 states, too. If they decide to ignore the legal "mail-in" v****g laws (absentee v****g by military and people who can prove they cannot get to a polling place) and send b****ts out to everyone on their registration rolls, like they did in 2020, there will be b****ts floating all over the place, like there were in 2020, where people who now live in those homes where someone died, or moved away, will be receiving the b****ts according to what's listed on the registration rolls....fill out those b****ts along with their own, and v**e away....again and again and again!

V****g fraud is all over the place. And it is easy to manipulate, as we saw in 2020, because the registration rolls are such a mess, e*****rs used C***d and mail-in v****g to change the laws and rules about how to v**e (when they had no authority to do so) and they used the C***d/v*****e h**x to hide behind when people called for validity.

Things are going to be VERY different next year regarding that....if we even have an e******n. I think Biden is going to come up with some kind of disaster to thwart the e******n - like nuclear war, or another more lethal v***s, or a multiple terrorist attack from within the country (terrorists who are using our open border to set up their cells here in this country) but much bigger and more disastrous than 9/11. How can I NOT think this when I watch multiple millions (7 MILLION at last count) of i******s swarming across our border?

I could be wrong. I HOPE I'm wrong! But all things point to the reason Biden is letting all these i******s into our country.....the reason he let Title 42 (the "Remain in Mexico" act that Trump and Obrador signed together) lapse and did not extend it...the reason why he is bulldozing down the fencing razor wire that Governor Abbot put in place at the Texas border (!!!)....is so that all those i******s will be able to v**e. (I think he wants to replace working Americans with i******s, as well, but that's another story.)

Americans are not only s**k of paying higher prices on everything with inflation and a looming recession/depression facing us, but they are s**k of hearing that our taxes are being used to pay for these illegal trespassers' housing, food, clothing, medical care and education....among a lot of other things. There will come a tipping point where people are not going to take these things sitting down anymore. And I think that point is approaching quickly.
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