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Jun 14, 2016 05:09:17   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You are not alone, I am ready to go, tell others... Many of us are ready to go!


So why weren't you ready to go when Bundy asked you? What better opportunity could you have had than that?
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Jun 14, 2016 05:07:06   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Wow you are really weird sometimes.
go research some about this topic like many others have...

Have an awakening Peter or go move to Syria

You didn't answer my question. The article states that we have been replaced by a corporation with the objective of creating another socialist country. That doesn't explain why a corporation would desire to be socialist. First off a corporation is private and for anyone to invest in it there has to be some type of financial return. If it is socialist there won't be so again I have to ask what is the point of it being socialist? How could it come into existence if there is no return on capital for the investors?

Sici, do you ever actually think about what any of these articles actually say or do you just think that because it comes in on your feed it must be okay?
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Jun 14, 2016 04:59:25   #
Onelostdog wrote:
They are not worried about OUR country, they are scared to death of loosing their c*******t control. Like they have said before you just can't fix stupid and I will add liberal/c*******t/marxist to that saying.


And just what c*******t control do we have? And you are right, you can't fix stupid. You have proven that point over and over...
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Jun 14, 2016 04:57:04   #
BigMike wrote:
Trump is being attacked on all sides...including economically. He's taken a real risk. I respect that, character defects be damned.


How is he taking a risk? We are the ones who will be stuck with the effects of his policies. Hes got enough money that they aren't going to impact him so how is he taking a risk?
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Jun 14, 2016 04:54:51   #
Onelostdog wrote:
I found this article interesting enough to share.

This article gives a little different take on Donald Trump.


Mychal S. Massie is an ordained minister who spent 13 years in full-time Christian Ministry . Today he serves as founder and Chairman of the Racial Policy Center (RPC), a think tank he officially founded in September 2015. RPC advocates for a colorblind society.

Massie was founder and president of the non-profit “In His Name Ministries”. He is the former National Chairman of the conservative black think tank, Project 21-The National Leadership Network of Black Conservatives and a former member of its parent think tank, the National Center for Public Policy Research.

Trump is not a liberal or conservative--he’s a Pragmatist

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and China to theology and politics.

At one point reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative, to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative. I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn't see the problem as liberal or conservative; he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast leadership and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

Immigration isn't a Republican problem – it isn't a liberal problem – it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America . It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

The impending collapse of the economy isn't a liberal or conservative problem, it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect.

Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

Trump uniquely understands that China ’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn't work, you don't continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through at Carl’s Hamburgers. I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

You may not like Donald Trump, but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: (1) he is antithetical to the “good ol' boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians; (2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a-vis donations; (3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology; and (4) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another. Jeb Bush, John Kasich, and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts is that people don't give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now.

And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.

People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives (or politicians who never really solve a problem, because its better to still have an "issue to be solved" so re-elect me to solve it, which never happens) and those who have always played it safe (again, all politicians) not willing to risk failure, to try and achieve success.

Donald Trump has his total financial empire at risk in running for president - that says it all. Success for the U.S. !
I found this article interesting enough to share. ... (show quote)


Interesting take but he seems to view the world more through conservative eyes than anything else. Whether that's because he's a conservative or because he's just pandering to them so they will v**e for him remains to be seen but as far as being pragmatic--I see very little of that in him. For example. The conservative view is that i*****l i*********n is a problem so his "pragmatic" solution is to build a wall. The problem is that i*****l i*******ts are here to work and unless you go after employers who hire them they will just find a way around, or under, the wall to continue coming into this country. You see, the problem isn't i*****l i*********n but instead the employers that hire them. Because Trump is viewing this through a conservative lens he misidentified the problem thereby blowing the opportunity to fix it. Sorry, but there is nothing pragmatic in that--as long a employers can hire i*****l a***ns with little penalty they will continue to do so and the flow of i*****l i*******ts into this country will continue unabated...
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Jun 14, 2016 04:42:38   #
oldroy wrote:
Here's an interesting viewpoint. The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer and published on a Spanish website.

It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.

“ I walked down the streets in Barcelona and suddenly discovered a terrible t***h - Europe died in Auschwitz . . . We k**led six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of these people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of r****m, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with p***e.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime. Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative sk**l for destructive sk**l, intelligence for backwardness and superstition. We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.

Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offends' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving in to it.


It is now approximately seventy years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the six million Jews, twenty million Russians, ten million Christians, and nineteen-hundred Catholic priests who were 'murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated. Now, more than ever, with Iran, among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world "never forgets."

This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.

How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center 'NEVER HAPPENED' because it offends some Muslim in the United States? If our Judeo-Christian heritage is offensive to Muslims, they should pack up and move to Iran, Iraq or some other Muslim country.
b Here's an interesting viewpoint. The following ... (show quote)


What of the Muslims native to Spain? The author seems to have forgotten that the Spanish Moors are native to Spain and have lived side by side with Christians without any problems. As with all extremists he is taking the actions of a few and using it to color an entire population.
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Jun 14, 2016 04:33:30   #
Wolf counselor wrote:


This attack took place because OBAMMY HAS PUT US ON HIS IGNORE LIST.

And the attack didn't take place because any asshole can walk into a gun shop and buy anything they want? Yeah it's war alright and we're giving the enemy everything they need to k**l us...
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Jun 14, 2016 03:06:38   #
Docadhoc wrote:
No, they spent a lot of time. Spent. Past tense. And were they all Christians? Or were they deniers who turned from God and were punished for their t***sgressions?

I don't know of any Christian culture k*****g another in today's world. Do you?


Than what are we doing in the middle east? Oh wait, our government isn't Christian. My bad...

And I have to ask: because we use our government to k**l for us do you think you Christians have your hands clean? Who keeps pushing for wars? Every solution you guys have involves k*****g someone. You Christians are a guilty as anyone else; you just lack the intellectual integrity to admit it...
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Jun 14, 2016 02:55:33   #
son of witless wrote:


Now I am certainly not Jesus, but you, yes you, sure sound like Satan tempting Jesus when he was fasting for 40 days and forty nights.

Mathew 4 : 5-7 " Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. "
Jesus answered him, “It is also written: "Do not put the Lord your God to the test." "

Do you really have horns and a tail?
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How am I tempting anyone. I was taught that if you had faith in god than what ever happened to you would be his will. If I believe that why would I need to run around with a gun? It's not the lord who is being tested by you and only if you lack faith that you would have to substitute your protection for his...
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Jun 14, 2016 02:48:34   #
mwdegutis wrote:
Using that logic, then a 1-year old child that can live on its own outside the womb deserves to live also? But it can't live on its own.


It can eat, sleep, s**t, piss all on it's own. That doesn't mean it won't need help but it can come from the mother, father, or surrogate...it doesn't matter. The Supreme Court placed the line at viability which means the point it can survive without the need of a uterus. Up to that point it is a parasite and not much more...

My son wasn't able to live on his own until he was about 25 but that is a whole different story...
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Jun 14, 2016 02:40:03   #
Docadhoc wrote:
"If God is omnipotent free will doesn't mean squat".

And you got that in college. Perhaps that is why you don't understand.

To an ant you are omnipotent. You can squash it, give it food and a nice home, wh**ever you want. But you can also choose to do nothing and watch what the ant does.

This is the last time I will tell you this and I only do it because you have such a twisted concept regarding this.

So, whether you like it or not:

It pleases God to be loved by man. It is written.

It pleases God for man to choose Him.

God gave man free will to make his own choices, decisions, if man freely chooses God, God is pleased. Man can choose to turn away from God but must face the consequences of that choice.

Man can choose which car to buy, food to eat, where to live,....he can make any choice. The Bible tells us how to live. If one chooses to follow those instructions he will attain the Kingdom. If he chooses to stray he will be judged accordingly. It is his choice.

If you don't like it, that's your problem. If you have questions ask God. He may or may not answer.

If you want to grasp and understand clearly I suggest learning from a church pew or Pastor because you certainly were fed a line in your college. I also suggest you approach individuals as individuals.

I am finding.you to be either remarkably dense or disingenuous. Either way you have convinced me that you don't want answers but rather wish to deny no matter the answers to your questions because you think you know the answers and you refuse to accept or even consider any answer, so I wish you.peace.
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OMNIPOTENT: (of a deity) having unlimited power; able to do anything.

No, to an ant I would just be a big pain in the ass. A god can do anything so it would know the future before it even occurred--see prophecies--thus anything that was to occur in your life god would know what it is before you even did it. This is why freewill to an omnipotent god means nothing--no matter your choice god would know what that choice was before you ever made it. Yes, I can choose what to do but anytime a god knows that choice, even before I was created, it is irrelevant. In the end the question begged is if god knew that I was going to reject him what would be the point of my creation?

As for learning from a pastor all the theology courses I took were taught by PhD'ed clergy. And the only answers you have ever provided are fallacies or anecdotal and nothing that a rational argument can be based on. I am treating you based on your level of understanding--that's about as individual as I can get. You skirt along the surface thinking that you are addressing the t***h but without the ability to rationally question you can never know what is true and what isn't...
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Jun 14, 2016 02:04:23   #
bdamage wrote:
There are ONLY 2 choices my friend.....choose wisely.

"Well it might be the devil or it might be the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody" - Bob Dylan

All due respect to Bob but he is dead wrong....
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Jun 14, 2016 02:02:44   #
Every time there is a mass shooting everyone runs around saying their thoughts and prayers are with the victims. Now is this just a means of expressing sympathy or do we really think they will do something? Myself, I think action is a better approach. Any time you can walk into a store, buy a gun, than turn around and k**l 49 and wound 53 more than there is something really wrong. Any time you take weapons, that are nothing more than WMD, and put them in the hands of private citizens the outcome can only be disastrous. We've banded machine guns in this country and the world didn't end. Why are we so terrified that banning semi-automatic weapons will be such a disaster? There is nothing a semi-automatic can do that a bolt action or pump rifle can do except to be turned into a WMD. In the time it took the shooter to run through a thirty round clip, if you were really good you could fire 6 shots with a bolt action rifle. And yes, a gun such as a 30-06 could do a lot of damage in the closed confines of a dance club it would be nothing like could be done with a AR-15.

My suggestion is that we limit our weapons to revolvers and pump or bolt action rifles limited to no more than 6 shots. You can still protect yourself so the second amendment is satisfied but the insanity of putting WMD in the hands of lunatics or enemies of this country will be gone. And you can take your thoughts and prayers and put them in an appropriate place...
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Jun 14, 2016 00:47:41   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
By permission from a Leader in another Group, please copy and send to everyone.



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In the last year of so, I've been viewing the actions of both the alleged government of the united States of America, which, I believe, has been replaced by THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CORPORATION; a private corporation. I do not see the Congress as being anything but a group of individuals who want to conduct business as though it still has standing in this Country. What I perceive is that the powers of government have been divided by the creation of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CORPORATION (all CAPS).

We have not been told of this because it would potentially cause the People to awaken to the fact that they want to create another socialist country. One I would look at being called the United Socialist States of America, though Obama has begun the creation of 10 groups instead of 50 States. He's even selected the "governors" of those ten sites. There's even talk of putting half together with Canada and the other half with Mexico.

What also is happening is their attempt to take our right to own guns from us. In other words take away the 2nd Amendment. But aren't they actually attempting to take the Constitution given us by our forefathers away and create one of its own in the socialist environment as they may already have done? Ignorance is a great weapon.

But then, I ask myself, do the people even care? Are they so self-involved that what happens outside their own world isn't important? Even if it destroys their world as well? In California alone, attempts to control our lives and determine who can do what, to include gun ownership as allowed by the 2nd Amendment, and even elements of the 1st Amendment.

They've already begun by the attacks on our education system by bringing in Common Core to "educate" our children in total ignorance about our history. They don't want our future to be made up of freedom fighters and intelligent beings that know as much of what is going on as those creating it! There are groups also fighting religions, supporting homosexuality, and providing dissinformation to everyone who watches the boob tube and the Internet.

I'm passing this out to, hopefully, start waking people up to what is really happening to take our rights away by wh**ever means possible. Some of you may look at this from me as hysteria. What you need to do is to look at what is going on around you. Don't expect what you see on TV to be anything but what those behind the scenes want you to know. That's so that when they start moving in the direction of creating their socialist world here, we will be ripe for the taking. They want us disarmed so we can easily be handled without casualties on their side.

Am I trying to scare you? No! I'm trying to awaken you to the possibility of action being taken to deal with you in the manner of being opposed to their actions. You are seeing every day some happening that could be the catalyst to their intentions. Taking guns from those who own them; forced reporting of who owns what to include pieces of guns not yet even assembled. The only ones who should be afraid of our guns are those with malicious intentions against us. Do you think criminals or gangs are included in this? Hell No!

You should be afraid of their collecting data on you to spy on you and your family. Socialism is rampant throughout the world. To many we are a danger to their intentions. And that is our holding cards. But we also need to take back; first our State, then the nation. It's not somebody else's problem...it's ours!

Some of you will, eventually respond to my comments here. I don't necessarily want it, as I am committed to try and keep our Nation. But if you believe in what I am saying, then pass this on.

If you have read this far, thank you. If you agree with me, thank you again.

BG
By permission from a Leader in another Group, plea... (show quote)


Why would a corporation want to be socialist? What does it have to gain by giving up free market principles?

Do you ever think at all about what you read Sici or because it's on your feed you assume that it's something relevant and true?
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Jun 14, 2016 00:44:02   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
BY KRISTIE MCDONALD

Donald Trump Calls On Obama To Resign Over Orlando Shooting

From HuffingtonPost

The president “disgracefully refused to even say the words ‘Radical Islam,’” which are Trump’s bread and butter.

Presumptive Republican p**********l nominee Donald Trump issued a bombastic call for President Barack Obama to resign on Sunday over the president’s response to a shooting at an Orlando night club that left 50 people dead and scores of others injured.

“In his remarks today, President Obama disgracefully refused to even say the words ‘Radical Islam’. For that reason alone, he should step down. If Hillary Clinton, after this attack, still cannot say the two words ‘Radical Islam’ she should get out of this race for the Presidency,” Trump said in a statement released by his campaign.

“If we do not get tough and smart real fast, we are not going to have a country anymore. Because our leaders are weak, I said this was going to happen – and it is only going to get worse. I am trying to save lives and prevent the next terrorist attack. We can’t afford to be politically correct anymore,” the statement continued.

In their remarks on Sunday, both Obama and Clinton referred to the shooting as an “act of terror” and an “act of h**e.” Obama last year explained that he refuses to describe the self-proclaimed Islamic State and al Qaeda as groups fueled by “radical Islam” because the term grants them a religious legitimacy they don’t deserve.

Trump noted in his statement that the gunman, Omar Mateen, was “the son of an immigrant from Afghanistan who openly published his support for the Afghanistani Taliban and even tried to run for President of Afghanistan.” According to the Washington Post, Seddique Mateen expressed gratitude toward the Afghan Taliban in videos posted online. His son had reportedly pledged allegiance to ISIS before executing the attack, though officials say there is no evidence he had direct ties to the group.

Trump also criticized Clinton, his presumptive Democratic challenger, for wanting to “dramatically increase admissions” of Syrian refugees into the United States.
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Oh, I'm sure Obama with pack up and do what Trump says.
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