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Oct 9, 2016 14:12:42   #
archie bunker wrote:
I have never been a member of any political party, or group. I have always v**ed for who I thought had the best ideas for my community, state, and nation.

Anymore, I feel like I'm forced to have to v**e against something instead of for something.

The waters have become so muddied now that you never know what you'll get.


Well that's the rub isn't it? Our founding fathers warned us of this two party system that we've allowed to dictate our choices. They knew the propensity of man to be corrupt with power and the quest to retain it.

Therefore, I am planting my f**g on the hill and refusing to be bullied by the two anymore. Unfortunately, there aren't very strong choices otherwise due to lack of support from the people. It takes a lot of money and will.

I would v**e Libertarian, but they keep trotting out lame candidates like Gary Johnson every e******n cycle, so I can't go there. However, if Rand Paul were to run on the Libertarian ticket, I'd be all in. But, he won't because he needs the Republican establishment GOP money to support his campaign. Follow the money honey.

I think I will cast my v**e for Darrell Castle of the Constitution party. He has no chance of winning, but he and the Constitution Party best represent my principles and values. And from now on, that is how I will cast my v**e....With my conscience as to whom I believe best represents me and my values. The Constitution and conservative values is always a good start.

DARRELL CASTLE - 2016
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Oct 9, 2016 13:56:45   #
PaulPisces wrote:
The latest revelation bolsters his identity as a sleaze.
Just stop for a second and ask yourself if you would still be supporting him if he had said these things about your daughter. Your wife?
And his half-assed apology only makes it worse.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/opinion/the-sleaziness-of-donald-trump.html?emc=edit_th_20161008&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=37695634&_r=0


It is equally just as depressing as it is hilarious reading all of these threads where both sides are pathetically defending their candidate by pointing at the other candidate's egregious faults.

Both sides are correct, so the question is: "Does EITHER candidate represent your values?" And the answer should be unequivocally, NO!!!!

This whole e******n may as well be between Hitler and Stalin. Anyone that can seriously argue for either of the two is equally as corrupt of character and disingenuous as the candidate they would vacuously defend.

We had our chance to pick a quality candidate in the primaries and we, I mean, YOU blew it!!! It matters little which of these two liars get elected into office now. Both are corrupt to the core. Neither are fit for the office, YET..."We the People" chose them. Therefore, We the People will suffer the consequences of our actions.

This is what a 100 years of progressive education/indoctrination will do to a country. When things like character, integrity, t***h, honesty and actual facts and valid policy stances don't matter anymore...and all that matters is the perceived concept of "winning".....That's when you know that the country is in the death throes.
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Sep 30, 2016 12:29:55   #
Homestead wrote:
The trouble is that the executive branch has the sword (enforcement) the legislative branch has the will (law making) the Judicial branch has judgment only.

The Supreme Court has no authority to legislate from the bench.

The Constitution is the Supreme law of the land.
It is above the legislature and the Supreme Court.
The only way that the Constitution can be changed is with an Article V Constitutional Amendment.

The Constitution itself, gets its authority from a higher authority and therefore certain God given unalienable rights cannot be infringed on, even by it.

Any authority that the Supreme Court has, comes from the Constitution.
That authority has Constitutional limits.
Any violation of those limits, is cause for dismissal from that court.

But until the people themselves understand their own Constitution, no such demand will be made.

Ignorance of the law is no exception, but, it can let a lot of people get away with the wrong things.
The trouble is that the executive branch has the s... (show quote)


Yeah, well there's what's in the Constitution and then what they actually do. There are many examples of US Presidents violating the Constitution in one way or another throughout our brief history. Obama certainly has ratcheted up the anti during his tenure. The SCOTUS as well. And, they'll continue to do so because nobody cares. And when I say "nobody", I mean some people care, but few will muster up the will to do something about it. Most will just complain and do nothing if they even pay any attention at all. Luckily, there are organizations like the ACLJ filing law suits against these erroneous actions. So, if you want to help fight the good fight, then donating to these organizations is a significant way to voice your grievances in a more corporate way.
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Sep 27, 2016 15:42:57   #
Forget what the people want because the people are foolish. Stick to your principles Mr. Beck and count me as an ally. People that do not live by sound principles do not understand or even care about them. They only want to "win". I will no longer v**e for a candidate that I do not believe in. I will not be bullied into v****g for the "lesser of two evils". I have a choice. I can v**e 3rd party, write in a v**e or abstain. It doesn't matter if my choice is a "winning" choice (in the Trumpsters' eyes) because in my opinion, the e******n was lost in the primaries. We squandered a great opportunity to elect a solid candidate, but we got distracted by the shiny object, the carnival barker, the circus clown...and chose the wrong one. There were several solid candidates that would've been good choices, but NO...the childish Trumpsters weren't having it. They wanted their party clown and that was that. OK. You got him. But I don't have to v**e for him and neither does Mr. Beck. We have other choices. It's not a zero sum game Trumpsters. Not v****g for Trump is NOT a v**e for Hillary. It's a neutral v**e. It doesn't help either candidate. Doesn't hurt either. So don't hand me your stupid pretzel math logic. Not buying it. It doesn't add up.
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Sep 27, 2016 14:07:55   #
Couldn't read it. A pop up poll that I couldn't exit out of kept getting in the way. The poll was indicative of this lie of a binary choice that everyone has to make. The lie that you either have to v**e for Trump or Hillary. No, no I don't. There are other choices. You can v**e 3rd party, you can write in a name or you can stay home and abstain. I was going to write in Ted Cruz' name...but not now. So, it's wide open for me because I definitely will not v**e Trump nor Clinton. No how, no way. My principles will not allow it.

One thing is for sure. The one good thing this e******n has accomplished is to shine the light on "who is who". Who is for the party and who is for principles. I will not or never pledge allegiance to a candidate or a party. Never. My allegiance is to the US Constitution and BOR. To my country, my family and my God. There no longer is a party that truly represents me and my principles. The Republican party used to when it was actually conservative, but that ship has sailed. It's morphed into half progressive and half nationalist. Can't go there. What to do?
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Sep 27, 2016 13:54:16   #
Homestead wrote:
If every body knows the t***h, then why are they afraid that Hillary Clinton can change the second amendment?

The answer is because they don't know the difference between a Constitutional right that can be changed, from a Constitutionally protected right that can't.

It is a fundamental difference.


I can't speak for any or everyone, but I would imagine they're concerned about her SCOTUS appointment(s). You replace Scalia with a radical liberal judge and all bets are off. They tend to legislate from the bench. Plus, Hillary will use the full power of the Executive branch and all agencies under her purview to control all gun activity. And then there's the Executive Order ace up the sleeve...

So, there are legitimate reasons for people to fear a Clinton administration beyond ignorance of the Constitution and BOR.
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Sep 26, 2016 13:53:57   #
Kevyn wrote:
I agree, there are too many scumbags and miscreants who disrespect our twice popularly elected President. This is a direct attack on the very foundations of our republic. An abject disrespect not only for their fellow citizens who support our president but for the very institutions that allowed us to choose our leaders. Their insults are a slap in the face to our great nation. They are ungrateful and disrespectful of the greatest nation in the world.


You mean like when the Left chanted, "Bush lied, people died!!!"? Like that? Or when Kanye said on national tv on an awards show, "Bush h**es black people!!!" following the Katrina hurricane fiasco...when it turns out that the incompetent mayor and governor of Louisiana were the ones the screwed it all up. Like that? Or any number of redneck jokes and epithets hurled at him. Boy, those were the days. You probably don't remember any of that. All you see and care about is through the prism of black. Congratulations. You're very deep and full of integrity. And when I say "integrity", I mean s**t.
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Sep 26, 2016 13:43:53   #
Homestead wrote:
There is one hell of a difference between a Constitutional right and a Constitutionally protected right.

A Constitutional right would come from the Constitution and as such could be amended or removed by changing it.

Which is exactly what Hillary Clinton wants to do, through the Supreme Court or an amendment if necessary.

A Constitutionally protected right cannot be changed or taken by the Constitution.
The only thing you could do is remove that protection.
But, as our forefathers stated, there is no other purpose for government except to protect the rights of it's citizens.

So, to remove the Constitutional protection of our rights, by the Constitution, would make that Constitution null and void.
There is one hell of a difference between a Consti... (show quote)


Yeah, I know. I know all of this already. Have for decades. Again, you're taking an abbreviated reference and planting your f**g on the actual literal meaning. Since when has anyone referred to their constitutional rights as something that the government granted us? Or that the Founding Fathers granted us by drafting the document? Apparently, everybody in the country for decades, centuries even, knows what is meant when you say, "constitutional rights" but YOU. They're referring to the protections under the Bill of Rights. So get off your stupid soap box and stop trying to lecture people on what we already know Captain Obvious.

Here's some breaking news...Turns out...Trees are made of WOOD!!! Who'd of thunk it?
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Sep 25, 2016 10:55:22   #
Homestead wrote:
See, right off the bat you show your ignorance.
Neither you, nor I or anyone else has a single Constitutional right........................not one.

The Constitution did not give us anything we did not already possess.

If the Constitution had the power to give us our rights, then by rewriting the Constitution it could take them away.

What we have are God given unalienable rights.
The very fact that we exist, means that we have those rights.

What we have are Constitutionally PROTECTED rights.
It is the purpose of government to protect the natural rights of its citizen and it exists for none other, as stated by our forefathers.

Lastly, just because you have the right to speak, that does not stop us from holding you accountable for the utter nonsense and stupidity that is your opinion.

See, we have rights as well.

We have the right to speak to the nonsense we hear or in this case, see and read.
See, right off the bat you show your ignorance. br... (show quote)


Thank you "professor" for the tutorial, but your little rant, while refreshing that you get it, is a little self-righteous and totally unnecessary. The term "constitutional right" is only an abbreviated common reference to these GOD GIVEN rights and the protection thereof.

As for your holding me accountable for my opinion...Your assertion that my opinion is nonsense and stupid is equally your own opinion and not fact. Therefore, I will, in turn, hold you and your fellow lemming Trumpsters accountable...as I have thoroughly demonstrated. You don't like looking in the mirror and owning your blatant stupidity. Fine. Stick your head back in the sand along with the Obamabots. As with Obama, only time stands between me and vindication.
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Sep 19, 2016 17:20:56   #
Homestead wrote:
Your still claiming that Ted Cruz is a conservative and that conservatives support the Constitution.

The problem is that Ted Cruz is not a Natural-Born-Citizen as required by the Constitution.

It seems that Ted Cruz is all for the Constitution until it gets in the way of his political ambitions.

And you seem to be a "Sunshine Patriot" that only supports the Constitution when it suits you.

It's no wonder that when we were on the verge of getting a Congressional Hearing on Obama's forged Birth Certificate, Ted Cruz refused to get on board entirely.
Now we know why, he wanted to commit the same fraud Obama has. He couldn't expose Obama without exposing himself.
Your still claiming that Ted Cruz is a conservativ... (show quote)
I'm not going to waste time defending Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz' record speaks for itself. Choose to believe what you want about him. Not my fight to fight.

As for me, you might want to spell out what you mean about me being a "sunshine patriot". I've never been accused of it in my entire life. I stand up for what I believe in. It is YOU that is the sunshine patriot. Going along to get along. You and all of your little Trumpster N**is only care about party and "winning". Party over principle. Well, I am the exact opposite. Principle over party allegiance. I will not pledge allegiance to any party ever. That's what they do in c*******t countries. That's what they do in national socialist countries. No thanks. I will not pledge allegiance to the Republican party. Especially when I see that party driving itself over the cliff. I won't be riding along. I got out of the Republican clown car way back several exits ago.
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Sep 19, 2016 17:10:23   #
Homestead wrote:
Your grievance is not anchored in reality.

Do you think the left really wanted Jimmy Carter?

Don't you think that they really wanted a Barack Obama, even back then?

They took what they got and used it until they got what they wanted.

In the meantime they did everything they could to stop the Republicans and ridicule and dismiss them.


Now you have a choice, Hillary Clinton and a overwhelming continuation of Obama and the Democrats policies
or you support Trump, who's against most of what they've done and wants to roll a significant amount of it back.

The Democrats are smart enough to take what they have and use it.

The question is......................are you at least as smart as a Democrat?
Your grievance is not anchored in reality. br br ... (show quote)
I'm smart enough to know my Constitutional rights. And my right to my opinion, to voice it and my v**e cannot be taken away from me. I will not be bullied by the mob into bending to their will.
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Sep 19, 2016 17:01:54   #
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
No, you are just mediocre, indifferent, one of the masses. See my new topic: "For All You Parlor Bolsheviks": http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-82128-1.html#1688451
Indifferent doesn't take on the entire Trumpster Nation. Indifferent sits in front of the tv eating Cheetos and scratching his nutsack until his scrotum turns orange. Even the simplest things escape you dunces.
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Sep 19, 2016 12:37:38   #
BigMike wrote:
And the "conservatives" were decisively put in office, House and Senate, by the Republican base and IMMEDIATELY went along with Obama on immigration. What fucking weasels! And McGroaning says we've been fooled by TRUMP?

Uh...no! He's definitely not as smart as a Democrat.


Well now, that's the rub isn't it? Your definition of "conservative" seems to be my definition of "progressive republicans" because true conservatives don't do those things. True Conservatives stand on principle and the constitution. Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert are examples of true conservatives. People like Marco Rubio, who claim to be conservative but go against conservative principles (Gang of Eight Comprehensive Immigration Bill) are in the Progressive Republican or RINO camp. Republican used to equal Conservative back in the Reagan era. But now, the progressives in the Republican party have bastardized it into something else. And that's why you Trumpsters are pissed off, because they act too much like Democrats. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE PROGRESSIVES. If you don't know and understand this basic baseline bit of information, then you're not looking through the correct pair of glasses or prism (so to speak).

Trump...Trump isn't a rigid ideologue like Obama. Trump is a liberal, but only because that's all he really knows. He grew up in New York where everybody's a liberal, so it's just normal for him to have those opinions and leanings. Trumps wouldn't know Conservatism if it hit him in the face with its nutsack. Trump really doesn't care about any of that. What he cares about is making TRUMP enterprises great, not America. That's just a campaign slogan to him. What he cares about is making his businesses profitable. Nothing wrong with that in itself. I think he's running for POTUS to boost his brand and quite possibly he's getting paid well to do so. Just this morning I heard on the news that Hillary is really working hard to prepare for the upcoming debate. Trump? Nope. He's going to wing it like he always does. He'll skate through based on populism instead of substantive meaningful answers. No serious candidate would do that regardless of party affiliation.

I'll say it for the last time. My guy didn't win in the primaries, but it's not the reason I am vehemently against Trump. There were others that I could've supported. Yes, even Marco Rubio would've been a far better choice than Trump. Trump is the reason I am against Trump. Trump has all of you people fooled and for the life of me I can't understand why. It seems that all he has to do is throw out insults to his opposition, and some nationalist red meat, and you guys suck it up like gravy. I don't believe a single word this fraud has to say. He's a liar. I believe he was sent to destroy all credibility (that remains) on the Right (also referred to as the Republican party) so as to not only get Hillary elected, but to guarantee that no one on the Right gets elected for a long time.

And, before you start in, YES, HILLARY IS AN EVEN BIGGER LIAR. She is deplorable.

Neither Hillary nor Donald Trump should be POTUS. I've only said this several times on this thread already, but some people can't seem to read. You Trumpsters immediately go into hyper-defensive-"red-faced" mode and start stomping your feet...in fact, I imagine that the perfect mascot for the Trumpsters would be...Yosemite Sam. That's who you people are. Yosemite Sam.

I love how you people start listing things he's promised (ie; SCOTUS nominees) as if anything he says is credible. I don't believe a word he says, so none of his promises or "conservative" platform has any credibility with me. If you believe him, that's your prerogative. I think he's full of s**t. Always have, always will. You don't think I'm very smart. Fine. What I have is discernment. I have the ability to think for myself instead of following the sheep off the cliff.

Trump IS full of s**t. NO IFs, ANDs or BUTTs. Hillary's full of s**t. And no doubt, you Trumpsters will add me to the list, but I don't care. I know what I know. I am not easily swayed by nationalist rhetoric. While some of it "sounds like" it's in our better interests, I tap on the brakes, and refer back to the Constitution. And, quite often, I find that the bigger picture dictates that it is NOT in our best interests after all. Trumpsters don't give a s**t about the Constitution. And neither does Trump (nor Hillary). And that's what has me deeply concerned.

Trump's cult of personality reminds me of Obama in the 2008 campaign. Nothing you could say could sway the Obamabots from following their pied piper. Did they listen when we questioned Obama's famous line, "We are five days away from fundamentally t***sforming the United States of American"? Questions like, "Why would you want to fundamentally t***sform something that you love?" or "What did Obama mean by 'fundamentally'?" Or when Michelle said, "This is the first time I've been proud of my country" when Obama got elected. First time? Or when Obama said, "Under my plan of a Cap and Trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket". And that's just a few of the highlights. NONE of the Obamabots gave ANY of those statements a single thought as to what they really meant and why they were said. And guess what? NOW, you Trumpsters are doing the very same thing that you mocked them for doing. Congratulations. You win the golden lemming award.

Ok, cue the h**e in 5...4...3...
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Sep 18, 2016 11:51:04   #
BigMike wrote:
Where is your candidate? Maybe we can v**e for that person.
Damn, you Trumpsters are a dense bunch aren't you? I've grown tired of this. I've already thoroughly stated my grievance and my position on this topic. The answers to all of your questions have already been answered on this thread.
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Sep 18, 2016 11:38:24   #
crazylibertarian wrote:
Olden McGroen, the point is I don't regard him as a Messiah & I don't think anyone else does. And you should read what we post if you're going to hurl these epithets. And BTW, everyone should heed this. Don't act like the liberals in this group. We should be above this name calling.


Granted, I could use more diplomacy and tact articulating my grievances. And, it's not lost on me that I sound like the Left wing trolls to all of you Trumpsters because you can't fit it in your head that anyone on the "Right" could possibly be against Trump at this juncture. Yet, I find myself in the unique position of actually having principles and not having a viable candidate that represents me. I continue to read articles of Trump rolling out policy after policy that are right out of the Left's playbook, and the Trumpsters not only don't have a problem with them, they endorse them? WTF?

So, yes, I'm just a little pissed off that all of you Trumpsters are so gullible and naïve as to be blinded by Trump's BS. And when I say "pissed off", I mean apoplectic. So, forgive me if my tone is a tad brusque. The needle on my intolerance meter is pegged in the red.
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