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Sep 3, 2014 09:52:51   #
You obviously do not know your history. The USA has done nothing but help other countries be free to do what THEY want to do. In some cases this has been a mistake but in the vast majority it has been an overwhelming success. The world has blossomed because of the USA and people all over the world now lead much better lives now because of us. Your cynical, momentary view of things is childish at best and completely ignorant of the benefits the USA has brought to the world. Just because we have a moron in the Presidency and DOJ and leader of the Senate and Sec. of State does not mean we can not fix things. Get a grip and grow up, the USA has done nothing to deserve your stupid accusations.
lpnmajor wrote:
The United States of America became a superpower towards the end of the 1940's. What does that mean? We, being a superpower, get to decide that. What we decided, is that we would solve the worlds problems. We have been telling the world how to solve it's problems ever since. No matter what is happening, in other countries, we have an opinion and provide advice, personnel and/or money, or take direct action, to deal with problems there.

Unfortunately, even a cursory examination of our society, shows that we are not capable of dealing with our OWN problems effectively. We have shown no competence whatsoever at dealing with the very issues - we insist on telling others how to solve. We haven't shown any competence at solving anyone else's problems either, but we keep trying.

The rest of the world sees that we are incompetent, but we are unaware, or unable to see it ourselves. So, while we pat ourselves on the back for being so proactive at dealing with the worlds many issues, the world looks at us and says " they must be the worlds biggest morons".
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Aug 29, 2014 07:54:03   #
There is not one credible poll, political commentator or politician of any stripe that believes or supports any of what you just said. Dream on you tea drinking mug.
tdsrnest wrote:
Bad news for the GOP/TP Data shows high v**er turnout will give house and Senate back to the common sense party ( Democrats). Due to high disapproval of the GOP/TP on issues such as V**er Suppression, Obstruction, foolish Conspiracy theories, and wasting Tax Payer money. The people of this country are starting to understand that the GOP/TP is beholding to the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Walmart,and other Corporate elite.

It is now well known when your leader in the Senate is now on tape, due we need anymore evidence. Mitch McConnell at his annual retreat subsidized by the Koch brothers admitted that the Republican Party would be lost without the Koch brothers. Oh by the way that annual retreat for the GOP/TP cost Koch $2 million. Nice vacation for the job creators. Ha

Also his comments on tape how the wealthy and corporate elite should control our e******n process.I warned you TP folks Wow this sucks I just h**e being right.

He praised how the Koch infested SCOTUS has opened the door to conservative billionaires can now purchase our government. Wow I just can't believe the abuse I took from you TP folks on this issue. But a lot of self satisfaction now. It's all on tape from your leader.

Finally all you GOP/TP can understand that you are nothing but a Koch organized and funded machine.


Also your leader on tape said his worst day in his political career was the day McCain Feingold was signed in to law. Can you imagine 9/11, 2wars, collapse of housing, collapse of the banking industry, all under GOP/TP control and a bi- partisan bill on campaign finance was his worst. Wow high priorities for the GOP/TP.

So don't worry Cheesecake Meagan Kelly and the rest of those white boys at Fox will figure out a way to put a spin on this. And you will buy into it.

But I would really like to thank my new best friend Mitch McConnell for vindicating me for all your insults from the TP guys on OPP.

Apologies will not be excepted. But thanks anyway.
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Aug 29, 2014 07:51:05   #
That's could be the dumbest statement I've ever heard, congratulations your statement defies all logic.
alabuck wrote:
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I would've thought carolyn would appreciate that the SCOTUS that Dubya left us with would be sure to legalize any cartel's money being infused into American politics, especially so if the cartel's money is going toward electing a conservative candidate.
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Aug 27, 2014 07:58:49   #
This list is completely bogus. What about Bawny Fwank and Chris Dodd? What about Jimma Cawta and Bill "I didn't rape those 27 women" Clinton and their "Neighborhood "destruction" Act?" Any list that ignores these guys is incomplete at best and a flat out lie in t***h.
Nickolai wrote:
It wasn't Bush's fault. Some names of those who were responsible for the financial crises according to Time Magazine are.
1.Angelo Mozilo
2.Phill Gramm
3.Alan Greenspan
4.Chris Cox
5.American consumes
6.Hank Paulson
7 Joe Cassano
8.Ian McCarthy
9.Frank Raines
10.Kathleen Corbet
11. Dick Fuld
12.Marion and Herb Sandler
13. Bill Clinton.
14. George W Bush
15. Stan O'Neal
16. Wen Jiabao
17. David Lereah
18. John Devany
19. Bernie Madoff
20. Lew Ranieri
21. Burton Jablin
22. Fred Goodwin
23. Sandy Weil
24. David Oddsson
25. Jimmy Cayne

Angelo Mozillo founded Countrywide Financial in 1969 he left Countrywide after it's rescue sale to B of A who said it would spend $8.7 billion to settle predatory lending charges against C. W. F. Last week they had to cough up
$17 billion
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Aug 27, 2014 07:50:45   #
I'm all for it being put back up but it is typical of a liberal troll like you to put up a meaningless insult as some sort of dynamic statement. How about arguing with facts and well thought out, reasoned positions? Oh, right, you're a liberal, my bad.
alabuck wrote:
Yesterday, I posted a new topic, titled, "How Republicans t***sfer ideas." The post was of a picture of 2 elephants, one elephant with its trunk at the butt of the second. I thought it was a funny picture. The picture I posted is h*****g in a restaurant. It's been there for as long as the restaurant has been there and has been seen by people of all political persuasions.

Oddly, though, today, I received a PM for a moderator saying that due to complaints from people on the OPP, my post was removed. I must ask, how can the picture I posted be any more upsetting to the minds of a few than the pictures of a dead baby being stood on, a dead women with a crucifix jammed in her throat, decapitated heads, and pictures of similar atrocities? But, I guess to those of you, of the reich-wing philosophy, if you can't beat them fairly, then just complain about it and act like your feelings are hurt.

So, today, I congratulate those of you, who are so thin-skinned that a bit of humor causes you such heartache and pain, in being able to get my post removed.
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Aug 26, 2014 18:48:08   #
You and Sanchez need to read up on your history. It's hardly intelligent to accuse us of occupying anyone's land much less theirs. The fact is, we don't occupy and that is what keeps us from succeeding. You know absolutely nothing about Islam if you believe we are the occupiers. We are the only country in the history of the world that asks for nothing in return for our help. Only the land to bury our dead.
larrypuckett1939 wrote:
RIGHT IN THE BULLS EYE!!!
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Aug 24, 2014 08:35:11   #
Hey but Joe Scarborough says that makes him a "stone cold k**ler" so have a little respect. After all Joe is the smartest guy in the room.
Liberty Tree wrote:
As a sideline, when the British Prime Minister learned Foley's k**ler was British he cut short his vacation and went back to London to deal with it. Obama gave his little, necessary speech and went back to golf in 10 minutes.
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Aug 22, 2014 08:57:46   #
And BTW, the people of West Virginia are poor because the FEDERAL GOV'T destroyed the industry that employed them and BUILT THIS COUNTRY!! Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, etc. were destroyed by greedy unions and the local DEMOCRAT legislatures that supported them while enriching themselves. Wholly different situation.
DJRich wrote:
So do you complain about conservatives who are on welfare, SNAP, SSDI HEAP and the rest of the social programs?

And don't for a minute think that is not the case. I just finished a job in Princeton, WVa.

The only difference between Detroit, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland, is that the population is white, and over-whelmingly conservative.
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Aug 22, 2014 08:52:57   #
The point is that conservatives are more giving of themselves and there assets wh**ever they may be. Liberals want to think that gov't does it for them when ALL evidence says it does not. "Charity begins at home" is a very old and very true statement and if liberals understood why we would all be a lot better off. Gov't sucks at virtually everything it does precisely because of the distance it puts between people and the problems. Liberals are all symbolism and conservatives are willing to deal directly and realistically with our problems. The top per capita earning in the country is in Washington, DC, does that tell you anything? And they're all liberal hypocrites living off what they can steal from us and destroying millions of lives as they do it.
DJRich wrote:
So do you complain about conservatives who are on welfare, SNAP, SSDI HEAP and the rest of the social programs?

And don't for a minute think that is not the case. I just finished a job in Princeton, WVa.

The only difference between Detroit, Pittsburgh, or Cleveland, is that the population is white, and over-whelmingly conservative.
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Aug 21, 2014 08:55:27   #
First, at least the Koch brothers are american citizens who live here and have a vested interest in the success of the country. Soros is much more involved and is a convicted criminal who collapses economies for a living. What is it with you liberal morons? Does your self hatred run that deep? Secondly, the vast majority of your diatribe has been outed as completely false many times and yet you continue to repeat it which is a classic liberal tactic. Thirdly, the list you referred to actually had the Kochs 59th and out of the top 60 only 11 were conservative and the top 17 were all liberal or 3 companies that bought off both parties eqaully, although leaning to the left in every case. Get a grip man there are huge problems all brought on by the liberal movement and it's time you stood up and admitted your failures, our children need that.
tdsrnest wrote:
Before I start I have spent the last week researching the Koch money in our political system. What I found just defies our political system of fairness. As you go through each phase you will come to an understanding of why the IRS targeted Americans for prosperity. They are not a 501C4 group they have broken the law and the IRS conspiracy is a fraud. As you read and fact check make note of each PAC that is part of the Koch group and who the founder was and how they get funded and there actual agenda.

ALEC---------Americans Legislative Exchange Council
AFP-----------Americans for Prosperity

This all started with LOKI post of the Koch Brothers falling somewhere at 52 on a list of unions that have donated funds for political purposes. But it did not indicate the Super PAC's. And the vast network that Koch brothers invest $400 million into our political system.

I started my research with AFP, AFP Foundation, and ALEC.

Under the heading ALEC exposed. On a national level the companies involved with ALEC private enterprise board that actually write legislation for the GOP. They are also involved with Lobbyist to target congressional initiatives as well as federal departments such as the EPA the FDC, and Florida's stand your ground and very big into restrictive v**er rights. They also promote private schools prisons and as you will see other crony capitalism. ALEC was founded and funded by David Koch.

ALEC was charged with Tax Fraud for secretive financed junkets. It was part of what ALEC called Scholarship's for state legislators. Red states allowed the TP republicans to register to attend the ALEC conference also to except business funded scholarships from ALEC to offset their cost. This was also part of the IRS investigation. Just google ALEC charged with Tax fraud for secretive financed junkets.

ALEC has been running a multi million $ slush fund for state law makers looking to influence (right to work) (Stand Your Ground) and (V**er ID) and (v**er suppression)

ALEC brings together state legislators and corporate lobbyist to create legislation behind closed doors. Then these bills are introduced in state houses, and congress. All these bills are written by the corporate elite that donate to ALEC. One big bill out of ALEC this year was the dirty energy bill made to look clean through bogus scientist that were paid by ALEC and the IPP.

ALEC also receives major funding from T***s Canada. ALEC has opposed an array of bills on low carbon fuel standards that would limit the sale of T***s Canada tar sands fuel. T***s Canada actually wrote letters to legislators reminding them of what they paid for there conference trips.

ALEC had a private conference in Dallas Texas to (eliminate Medicare) (School Privatization) and the expansion of Gas Exports.

ALEC is funded through AFP from corporation like Exxon, Charles Koch charitable foundation, or trade associates like the pharmaceutical industry that help fund trips to the ALEC conferences. The legislation developed by ALEC is distributed to state local and national legislators at these meetings.

ALEC describes itself as the largest association of state legislators but only 10% of there funds come from legislators dues which is $50 a year. ALEC is the most powerful association of corporations that influence state, local, and national legislation but ALEC tax filings do not count corporate donations as dues they are listed as gifts. They have listed over $21 million from corporation as gifts and $250,000 as dues paid for from legislators.

Through the (Claude R Lambe foundation) Charles Koch foundation has donated to ALEC $125,000 another $75,000. That $200,000 is before wh**ever is the undisclosed amount through (Koch Industries)

Koch Also pays for the gifts the company gives to legislators who take part in there one stop shopping at ALEC conventions. These gifts are given to legislators who take part in there family vacations billed as a conference. These gifts cost ALEC $600,000 a year.

What is not known is the millions paid by Koch Industries to bail out ALEC.
Koch Industries has chaired ALEC for over a decade.

The Dark money by the corporate elite that is donated to ALEC is unknown. These funds are paid to the lobbying arm involved in ALEC leadership.

The way ALEC avoids Taxes is to set up a scholarship fund . These are not funds for kids who do well in school. They are financial gifts called scholarships to help cover the cost of family vacations for legislators at the ALEC meetings. ALEC has reported over $250,000 for childcare for these meetings.

ALEC spends $600,000 to just recruit legislators and candidates to run under the TP label.

Each state has an ALEC chairman who's identities are not required to be disclosed by ALEC and it's these chairs recruit and raise the scholarship funds.

The ALEC vacations for TP legislators on the local state and national level cost ALEC $2 million

ALEC meetings actually consist of Luncheons, dinners, Golf Outings, boating, and many other events to get legislators to bond with ALEC funded lobbyist and the corporate elite.

ALEC state that no laws are actually passed or debated during these conventions therefore no lobbying takes place. But they all leave with the corporate elite play book.

You can track this on ALEC exposed.

Below is a list of Koch Industries chain of PACs and it all starts out of Koch Industries.

Koch Industries----David Koch Charitable foundation--------Charles Koch Charitable Foundation-------AFP-----AFP foundations------Patient First---------ALEC------Patient United Now--------Koch Interns-------Freedom Partner-------American Encore--------The 912 group--------Castle ROck foundation-----Donor Trust------Citizens for sound energy--------John M Olin Foundation-------Prosperity Foundation-------- Allegheny Foundation----- Claude R Lamb foundation run by the Koch Family-----American future Fund-----TC4 trust-- this all came up during the IRS investigation no wonder they had to create a conspiracy for targeting they investigate AFP and found all thes conservative groups.

In a recent report entitled (buying influence) common cause and the center for democracy in media say the scholarships are nothing but a slush funds, and are barred in some states and allowed in most red states.

David Koch actually ran for Vice President on the libertarian party in 1980 and is currently on the board of CATO institute which is a libertarian think tank. Also some interesting reading there on David Koch's actual agenda.

To give an example the Koch brothers actually founded a PAC called (Patients First) to oppose and mislead the American people of the ACA. It's sole purpose was to spread propaganda on the healthcare.

As Koch industries founded and funded ALEC they also did the same with AFP. AFP was the key component of Koch's $400 million political network. They raised money from dark groups like (Freedom Partners) (American Encore) and (Donors Trust) AFP budget comes from the (Koch Family Foundation) and a vast number of other unknown sources. There budget surged from $7 million in 2007 to $115 million in 2012. This was all part of the IRS audit they were looking at AFP and found ALEC because funds were shifted to ALEC from AFP and Many other PACs that were funded in the same manner.

AFP funding per there 2012 tax returns received $115 million and spent $122 million. ($33.5 million political activities) ($36.5 million on campaign financing) ( $36.4 million on campaign activities to the federal e******n commission) AFP reported to the IRS that it does not spend funds on political activities. Had AFP had not disclosed that on there tax returns they would have had to disclose there donors and pay taxes. Anybody see any fraud here.

Now reports indicate that the Tea Party has benefitted from millions of $ from conservative PACs and the wealthy under the AFP umbrella. The funds to organize and implement the Tea Party movement is primarily through AFP and the dark money through (freedom Works).

Through AFP channels of funds in July of 2008 they hosted the (right On) conference of independent right wing bloggers in Austin Texas to develop new media techniques. This is when the agenda for right wing propaganda sites was developed. Which most TP read as t***h but lack any facts.

AFP has also worked to take over local school boards to create charter schools, specifically in states like NC, Colorado, and Scott Walkers new vision for Wisconsin. This is all accomplished through dark money and the propaganda sites to post lies about public schools.

AFP through there offshoot ALEC on climate control literally manufacture there own experts to defend there products and practices.

The Golden age of propaganda is created through AFP with undisclosed donors. They have also learned how to manipulate journalism on issues such as public health, environmental, and political issues with bogus experts and junk sciences through there propaganda sites.

The IRS exposed (AFP) and (AFP Foundation) when they file separate tax filings even though they were related and working out of the same office.

Patient United was formed by AFP to advertise and lobby against the ACA. They also orchestrated funding to the TP movement through AFP funded by multi national corporation.

(922 group) conservative advocacy group created by AFP. Website does not indicate how it is funded. It appears to be directed at the youth of this country under the direction of AFP. But Mark Levin Glen Beck Rush Limbaugh all prosper through the 912 group by book sales. Scary thought with those 3 influencing our youth.

Citizens For Sound Energy. Funded by Charles Koch Charitable foundation approximately $12 million to conservative advocacy group. They advocate against healthcare and climate control. Other donors Philip Morris and Exxon. They wrote Bush demanding he withdraw the (The Climate Action Report of 2002) and Bush buried it.

Prosperity Network funded by the Koch Brothers. Goal is to organize against local tax increases in Koch factories locations, Mass t***sit systems, get control of local school boards and county boards. This was done in Ohio and aimed at not protecting local pocket books and more at protecting Koch affiliated business interest in Columbus (Georgia Pacific Chemicals an affiliate business of Koch industries. Koch fought against any kind of Mass t***sit in Ohio and TN because Mass t***sit would threaten Koch's oil and Gas interest.

Koch Interns. Recruiting tool for Koch Industries. Generate Websites and new Media content, tracking grants, research and build a base of contacts, fundraising, donor communication, donation process. Train on All aspects to maintain new and young employees for the Koch political machine all done under tax exemptions through 501C4.

Castle Rock Foundation Funded by ALEC and Coors also involved Heritage, Hartland, Chamber Of Commerce, National federation of IndependentBusinesses and CATO. This group was formed to educate Judges on the state and local level. There main purpose on certain cases is to file separate briefs to make it appear that their is a ground swell of support for major corporation. They also invite state and federal Judges to seminars and conferences that are sponsored by this group. They use this time to educate judges as to positions held by corporations. These seminars are held just prior to important cases. It is also a luxury vacation all paid for by this group.

American Encore. Is a secretive non profit group organized under 501C4 that funneled more than $182 million in undisclosed donations to right wing groups from 2009 to 2012 including AFP and American Future Funds. The Washington Post described it as a cash turnstile for groups on the right. During the last 2 e******n cycles it received large amounts of dark money from Freedom Partners and TC4 trust as part of the $400 million Koch political Network. The groups role was part of a $11 million campaign money laundering shell game which was exposed by the CA Fair Practice Commission. Filed suite against its donors and recipients.

TC4 trust. Non profit organization with ties to the Koch network called a political shadow money mailbox. They virtually do nothing but pass grants through to other politically active 501C4 benefiting the TP and the GOP.

Each one of these PAC's are funded out of the Koch $400 million. Along with private donation from all the major manufacture in this country. There is fund raising done out of each of these PAC all control by the Koch machine.

Each PAC has a specific function to advocate the Koch and corporate elite agenda through the media propaganda and local state and federal judges. They recruit legislators and finance Tea party candidates. An example of The Koch brothers agenda is to attack the following through propaganda. Healthcare, Unions, EPA, FDA, v**er suppression, G****l w*****g, Smoking restrictions, Tobacco Taxes, Out source of American jobs, oppose min wage, oppose unemployment, attack higher wages for public employees, oppose any mass t***sit, oppose public schools maintain corporate welfare, decrease corporate taxes, oppose gun control. Does this sound like the Tea Party agenda.

Also while you research all these super pacs they are all 501C 4 tax deferred. When the IRS investigated AFP they found this vast chain of political actions groups. So the statement they targeted conservative groups was blown out of proportion because all they did was investigate AFP and found this network. Can you understand why the GOP created the IRS scandal all to hide this network.

So instead of the TP being a grassroots organization is not true anymore. They have developed over time in part by the corporate elite headed by a $400 million Koch funded organization with massive fund raising through the corporate elite.

This is not what the TP agenda was at its inception
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Aug 13, 2014 12:32:59   #
Shame- fathers abandoning family, un-wed motherhood, alternate lifestyle, etc. etc., guilt, all of above plus gov't abandonment of Iraqi Christians and others, race baiting, g****r baiting, etc., etc. Courage, responsibility-all of above plus Africa aid(George Bush policy abandoned by Obama), Hell, I could go for several days on this. Get your head out of your Arce and smell the crap you're peddling. The left has destroyed everything good in life and brought nothing but despair to people all over the world.
Dummy Boy wrote:
Give me specific examples for each category, otherwise this is a fluff piece and a clear case of whining.
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Jul 30, 2014 08:55:13   #
Because Reagan made his biggest mistake in trusting Democrats to keep a bargain. I agree with Reagan's call for amnesty but it had to go hand in hand with securing the border as he said but the Dems took back the funding for that the minute Reagan left office. People ask why the liberals are willing to marry their movement to the Islamic movement, it is because they both see lying and not honoring their own words as a routine, justifiable tactic in fighting for their goals. There is some evidence that our fighting back with nothing but the t***h may be working but this coming e******n will be the big test of that.
Alicia wrote:
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The number of i******s coming in during this time is overwhelming but, a secure border between Mexico and the U.S. should have been taken care of at least 30 years ago. Why has this government waited until this time to become aware of the problem. There have always been i******s crossing that border as well as drug dealers. Why wasn't it attended to earlier? :?: :?:
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Jul 30, 2014 08:47:28   #
You have five women in your immediate family and you spout morally relativistic crap like this?! Perhaps you should read the Koran and then beg forgiveness from your own. I will go so far as to admit some consistencies between the Old Testament and the Koran prior to Muhammad but the divergence between the two religions was absolute after Christ and Muhammad lived their lives. The difference is also reflected in the before and after of the existence of the USA. The USA was founded and built on Judeo-Christian values whether you like it or not and was a truly wonderful creation for the world moreso then the USA itself. While we have had some disappointing wars they have been disappointing for the mere fact that we did not maintain control (i.e. ownership) of the countries we went to war with. We left them to their own devices which is totally different then any other country in the history of the world and possibly a mistake. The Salem witch trials, while terrible, were an aberration. S***ery was our worst sin obviously but was ended with a bigger one. To compare the two religions present day is ignorant in the extreme and shows that you know absolutely nothing about this country's real history and even less of Islam's.
slatten49 wrote:
Now...that, I believe to be probably true. :thumbup:

But, the government can be no better than the v****g public. :wink: We always get what we v**e for.
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Jul 28, 2014 09:25:25   #
"Yea but my pecker's bigger then yours, your mother thought so anyway." Do you libs ever do anything but make up juvenile BS to spout at others? Your philosophy, if it can be called that, has been found out and found wanting. All you have left is vapid, insultingly childish diatribes that simply show your weakness. Good thing you have sex because you have nothing else, not even a friend to have sex with. Which of the 51 categories is that? "Self-sex, cissy-sex?" I can't remember.
Glaucon wrote:
My friend Jim found some very interesting research done at Harvard University called The Grant Study.
Among its many findings:

Political mindedness correlates with intimacy: Ageing liberals have way more sex.

The most-conservative men ceased sexual relations at an average age of 68.

The most-liberal men had active sex lives into their 80s.
And thatÂ’s why old conservative men are so damn cranky and want you to get the hell off their lawn, boil leberals in oil, lynch our president and get generally confused with information. Look out for men younger than 68 who aren't getting any, those suckers are always ready to attack.


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Jul 28, 2014 09:13:16   #
The Democrats at MSDNC counted him as one of the "newly created jobs" by Obama. This, according to Krystal Ball brought the total job creation by Obama to 782 million. She added "Obama's strength is apparent over all 57 states."
carolyn wrote:
Ken Moore, a Vietnam veteran suffering from cancer due to exposure to Agent Orange, and who cannot walk or talk, was denied disability benefits by the Department of Veterans Affairs and was told to "GET A JOB."

Finally TV News Station Channel 41-Team was able to help Moore obtain his full disability. But how many desperately ill and 100% handicapped and disabled veterans have failed to get their earned disability while that money is spent on illegal criminals sneaking into our country? Maybe Democrats figure these vets won't be able to v**e but i******s can if taught to v**e Democrat.
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