Ever see a list of Who,s Who of the warren commission AFTER the report . Did you see the television report recently where witnesses were contacted for the first time in 40 years ? Did you see the bullet pock marks in the curb where witnesses claimed they had bullets hit near then in that curb ? Add it up !

When you boil all of the rhetoric (some very good) you end up with a few bones in the pot . One is from those who live by the words they hear ,(Obama - Bush-Clinton ) some live by actions connected to those words .(Regan) The current philosophy with the progressives attempting social reform on many fronts fall into the empty words that dont match up. It doubtful they will see this simple analogy as well . They have been taught well for most of their lives . They will be clueless until reality hits them in the face .
The Political Iceberg has so much hidden agenda under the surface we dont look for or see.

The Cloward and Piven strategy is a husband wife team ,they were in the Clinton W.H. as well . This philosophy is not a new concept , but rather history penned on paper and adapted for today. Its my contention this is the Ice under "the Political Iceberg" of environmentalism that is attacking jobs in America . The loss of our jobs ,and wealth causing us to implode. If you are not employed by any aspect of this building block in our economy it means little. However the real dollar feeding the vines of America
for every aspect of our lives is affected. Brilliant !

The pattern of dismissing thoughts , persons ,and those that paint a different picture have been used for a long time.. Wasnt that a effective tool of Hitler and Stalin ? The term R****t fits into this application so well ,as far as that goes , Obama is a prime example of the perfect storm ... We are put into a corner disadvantaged from the very start.. Brilliant move !

It does not take much of a thought process to adapt the Cloward and Piven straigy to the attack of all Natural Resources that have fueled America for so long . Has any one ever considered the huge financial loss of income (jobs) that multiply in our economy that pays for social programs , taxes, and jobs that allow for the purchase of Detroit's (and so much more ) products ? Natural resource jobs pay well enough to afford housing, goods , schooling for our kids , and services that kept us strong and well ..for so long.. I guess that makes it a target today..If you wanted hope and change.

I worked for a year in Co. , the majority of new residents were from Ca. and Tx. . The state is split in two with the Continental divide. The Western Slope was far more conservative ,with the Eastern slope the Liberal side. The Western slope was seeing immigration beyond their ability to deal with all the "new comers" wanting to change Co.. The property values sky rocketed beyond the ability to farm the land .The attack on the Natural Resources that funded Co. was a prime target that the "new comers" was not used to and intolerant . There were few "native residents" in the area I was , and they were for the most part moving after generations on their land. It was just too much money and regulations of change to afford and accept. A very nice place to visit , a very expensive place to live.

Our Freedoms have been under attack far longer than most of us would care to admit . Agenda 21 was signed in the First Bush W.H. Years . The common thread is Progressives in BOTH parties. I still remember when the Silver Certificates (dollars) were replaced with Federal Reserve notes . My dads warnings still sound in my ears.
It would seem we have been under attack in so many ways that all do not see , but the common thread is PROGRESSIVES in both parties. Again , it would be interesting to hear the rhetoric of the early years before the USSR was consumed by these very methods , one step at a time for a much bigger cause.

All of this heated rhetoric makes me wonder IF this was so much like the Former USSR RHETORIC before they were taken over ?

The political "Iceberg" or root cause could be what has been in print for a while. A well funded group wants the Western Hemisphere into a EURO type nation . They dont WANT ANY legislation that will cause their desires to be scuttled or hampered. That could well be why we see the political football passed back and forth with no results of fixing it. Besides just how hard would it be to put military training camps on the borders with live ammunition to engage for "training Purposes " for our troops oversea,s ?. Can you imagine the fun pilots could have with real live exercises ? So much for boredom training exercises. A internet "boothill" would be a sobering reality.

So is there a "venom" antidote book or thoughts on Rules for radicals ? Does the American model have safe guards in its design to resist this hostile take over ? Lastly I have often wondered why some v****g numbers that were clearly off the percentage charts never made the lame stream news..In other words "HOW" can we v**e them out with stolen v****g procedures ? (acorn)

Im amazed at how few know of this . There are different aspects of this effecting the conversation from our local government here in Oregon. Some of the Ca. stories are rather stark in its application of Agenda 21 . Thank you G Bush Sr. .

No one has said much about the Nukes under way in Iran . Given the Fukishima episode unfolding , shouldnt there be a world wide concern ?
Lastly given the world contamination possibility's of these Nukes , the green house emissions for Coal ,and other generators looks like a far better deal until safety measures and waste catch up to demands of electricity .
The recent Coal pant shut downs will only increase demands for electricity plants and the Nukes are there just waiting....
I guess we should reconsider emission regulations for now or who will be the first to shut down their electricity ?

I dont wish to respond to the rhetoric on either side of the Natural Resource debate , but rather the political "iceberg" of what I believe are the root cause that are the real issues beyond sight .
If you will consider America has evolved in 200 years with Capitalism coupled with abundant Natural Resources . This combination succeeds and you can look at other parts of the world that have Natural Resources but have NOT used them wisely or been able to use them . With our form of Government utilizing Capitalism and our Natural resources , we have led the world in so many ways .
If you use a analogy of a freight train loaded with every Natural Resource in America traveling thru the States ,adding a box or flat car of Natural resource as it travels on , you would see the revenue added to each town or city as that flat /box car was added to the train . This money is far different than our recent just trading paper for revenue. This Natural resource money flows threw each community touching so many on and on .Goods and services depend on this money flowing to pay for all of man kinds benefit including social services .
If you were wanting to over throw America with out firing a single shot you could simply stop the "economic train" by derailing it with regulation ,study's ,law suits ,and any other means including propaganda teaching in all forms at schools of all levels. The "economic train" quits rolling and America implodes from with in .
The "economic train" attack is so far from our view we cant even fathom attack like this . But once you see the whole picture you can NOT see it for what it is .
To take it one step further ,lets say they collapse the economy and just how easy would it be to crank up the Natural Resource machinery and be in business in no time ?
In closing the 'Political Iceberg" of attacking our economy has been underway for some time , we just are not able to process it like the frog in the pan on the stove .
Lastly this debate could be quite mute by the Fukishima
disaster unfolding here on the west coast .

The extreme cold weather only reinforces the fact that "all Natural Resources " are for mankind's wise usage . Tree,s are a valuable resource that have housed mankind with protection , and heat . With out the WISE use of the resources we would never have become what we are today .When every one wakes up to see the "political Iceberg" of saving the tree,s is really shutting off the the money flow to civilization .The flow of this critical money to create wealth for mankinds benefit . Shutting off the flow of money is a big step in social reform . When you couple all of the Natural Resource money being attacked ,you will see the Ice under the Iceberg for what it really is.. Plunder !

I spent a year in Ak ,the food chain connected to the ocean became a reality . With everything feeding one way or another directly or indirectly from the salt water of the Ocean . Everything was connected including the human population .
With these revelations emerging from different sources the concerns become alarming .
Consider the barges , boats , float planes ,using the water ways to t***sport goods and food products back and forth .. Are these barges and ships going to be contaminated ? Not to mention the food on board from Alaska . What about the native population that feeds directly from the ocean ?
The salmon dying after spawning fed the whole fresh water system ,and now could that be poisoning the same water system ? Flowing to the sea spilling more radioactive pollution ?
Maybe this is the tip of the political iceberg,and is why we hear nothing because of the possibility's are beyond our thinking just now ?Maybe we have opened Pandora,s box at last .