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Apr 27, 2015 22:07:05   #
straightUp wrote:
Again, incredibly childish. Do you actually think the government hordes money? The government is a non-profit organization. Every penny they collect goes into the system it supports. There is no greed in the government. I mentioned earlier, how the government is a means to an end. The motives always come from outside the government. Every single regulation in existence was demanded by the people (including the corporations themselves), all the government does is decide whether or not to make it a rule.
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straightUp- I appreciate your reasonably intelligent response albeit somewhat misguided and naïve. We each have our ideas we believe to be the true culprit and I could counter each of yours but that would actually take more time than I'm willing to give . We did not get here overnight and the cure will not mysteriously correct itself overnight but a few things to start with is the Federal Reserve, created by the government, did we ask for that? The Affordable Care Act, created by the government, Did we ask for Medical Health reform; YES, and we got this boondoggle called Obamacare.
Do you really believe we asked for six thousand new regulations last month to be heaped on the shoulders of our Corporations; increasing costs and reducing productivity and at the same time you wail on why the same Corporations will not hire and pay upscale wages as they should. Wages, now that brings me to the Union part. I have worked with Unions my whole adult life and can tell you unequivocally they are a self serving entity that has outlived its usefulness. There was a time when they served a purpose but that time has passed and they now primarily serve themselves. The wages they pay are not that out of line but the benefits are devastating to both the Owners and Consumers. I owned and operated a business for many years and paid better than Union scale, provided medical insurance and was loyal to my employees; additionally I took out and matched payroll deductions which provides Social Security and left their additional retirement to them the same as they left my retirement to me. Bottom line, you grow up and accept the responsibility expected of an adult and that is to take care of yourself and yours while helping others as you can but not the cradle to grave entitlements and redistribution as the current administration desires. Wake up and realize the few can not support the many; never has worked and never will and a minimum wage increase will only add to the burden of everyone. BTW you do realize that Unions benefit by a minimum wage increase because so many are tied to the same percentage increase without going through Collective Bargaining negotiations so there you go. Give the Burger flippers a raise and the price of your next car goes up exponentially. Have a great day.
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Apr 27, 2015 01:42:01   #
lpnmajor wrote:
We have a debt driven monetary system. Cash avoids all the fees exacted on debt t***sactions, so is anathema to the banks. Using a card for t***sactions, allows the issuer to "loan" you money for that t***saction, thus allowing them to charge many fees. Here's the thing; the merchant pays the issuer, to make the t***saction - in order to get their money for the item you bought, then YOU pay the issuer again - to complete the same t***saction. They get paid both ways

This is how money is made. You take $1 and sell it multiple times to multiple people and take a fee each time and each direction, until shortly, the $1 is worth less than nothing. Having a debt driven economy, allows banks to do business - with NO MONEY AT ALL. It's all numbers on paper ( or hard drive ), allowing them to sell money, far in excess of actual cash reserves.

Our banking system is one giant Ponzi scheme. Should a good number of people turn in their cards, thus denying the banks that cash for t***saction fees - the banks would collapse.
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This move by the banks are just the beginning of big changes that are on the horizon of our global financial system and policies. The IMF committee will meet later this year and introduce another Reserve Currency. Whereas the U.S. Dollar is the major reserve currency and most people do not understand but there are six more reserve currencies albeit at lesser percentages we are the only one that can and does continue to print money out of thin air since Nixon took us off the Gold Standard in 1971. The dollar is backed by nothing but our word and that has been on a downward spiral lately.
There is a lot going on here in the financial world but the bottom line is that China is quickly becoming a world financial power and the banks are starting to position themselves for the changes that will occur later this year, probably around Oct. The dollar will maintain its major reserve status but will be devalued substantially as Chinas "YUAN" will be added as another reserve currency.
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Apr 20, 2015 02:18:29   #
fiatlux wrote:
It will not be unusual for me to have my head up my ass and convinced it is you instead. Happens frequently. You seem a good, honest, and intelligent person. If I offended you, my apologies. What is happening in America seems plain to me: a takeover by globalization. Everything the Right puts forth supports the 1% at the sake of the middle class and poor. A single parent with two children did not need government support until the late 80s. Sorry, forget it. Just my amends for any harm I did.


Amends accepted, perhaps we can start anew. Check out the article in the attached link concerning 27 facts about the middle class in the most comments section. This is not about Obama bashing its simply what happens when government tries to manage our lives. Government and Unions vs. 1% and Corporations; that's your and I's disagreement.

http://marketdailynews.com/
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Apr 20, 2015 00:34:32   #
fiatlux wrote:
This is like Dementia Dreamwork, Inc talking to people like you. Totally clueless and you want to talk? Sorry, I am close to being insulting. Go your anti-labor way, screw the middle class in passing. and damn the poor. That is not what you want, yet that is what you slavishly are doing. Look for yourself; stop being shown what to see and how to see it.


You know I really made a open honest attempt to communicate with you on an adult level because you are relatively new here on OPP. What a waste of my time. You are a sick puppy and whether you realize it or not you are extremely insulting. However, as a last ditch effort; If you are capable of critical thinking, and I sincerely doubt it, then go back and try to comprehend what I was communicating to you rather than repeating your same left wing bulls**t about how we don't understand. In all your responses your continued reference to having our head in the sand is laughable especially since your head is buried in your alimentary canal all the way up to your waist. Hope the extraction is not too painful. Realistically though when you wake up and go though the extraction and your able to see what you and your ilk have done it will be painful. Have a blessed day and life.
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Apr 19, 2015 01:34:01   #
fiatlux wrote:
Unreal. Nice bait and switch. How can you or anyone swallow this hogwash from the corporate empire? Pathetic. Read the frkn stats. Look at what has happened to the middle class and the ever-growing poor. Look at income disparity. Look at CEO salaries. Look at the Globalization. Look at an estimated uninvested seven trillion dollars from just American companies. Your narrow focus, actually blindness, is a governmentally mandated minimum wage. Take off the blinders!


I do look at the middle class , ever-growing poor, income disparity; we just have different opinions on what the cause is. My opinion is Government and Unions are the problem. Yours is the 1% and Corporations. My point about our going off the Gold Standard may be hard to grasp but understand the devaluing of the dollar is causing the ever-growing poor, income disparity and the implosion of the middle class. The facts are that it takes three to four times the income to maintain the status quo because your dollar has lost 70% of its buying power. Why is the dollar worth less; its not because the rich have money and its not because corporations will not invest those trillions of dollars with all the new REGULATIONS and constant proposed TAX increases that are not business friendly. Its because of Government and Unions Greed and Power addiction.
Lets take a little journey down Corporate lane. Lets say you want to start your business; the government says O.K. but I want to be your partner and you don't have a choice.
The government says now you put up all the money, you take all the risk, you work your ass off 24 hours a day pay your taxes like good little boy and after all of that I get half of what you make. Now from time to time I will put more regulations on you because that buys me v**es. Those regulations will cost you an arm and leg but you just have to be willing to work harder to overcome that somehow. Now if you fail, tuff I'm not giving any of mine back your on your own buddy but if you succeed and make a little then when you die I get half of what you leave to your family. Sounds fair to me , then lets get going. My question fiatlus; does it sound fair to you? Last but not least, if you don't live in a" Right to Work State" then you must add the cost of the Unions into your product and pass that along to the consumer (mostly middle class) because there is no free ride. By the time you add it all up the poor are poorer and the middle class is living from paycheck to paycheck just trying to keep their nose above water.

BTW, I don't have blinders may I borrow yours to see what your world looks like; probably need shades huh?
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Apr 18, 2015 22:48:51   #
fiatlux wrote:
I am flabbergasted. Americans talking and taking a stand like this against the working class: appalling and damning. How could any of you buy this absurd bill of goods from the elite 1% and corporations? This is so utterly down the rabbit hole thinking as to be seriously frightening. Insane!


Not so sure who is in that rabbit hole. Go back to the early seventies and chart any number of items. The devaluation of the dollar, what the dollar will actually purchase, has been going down rapidly but people don't necessarily notice because that decrease of goods purchased is offset somewhat by the credit card industry and most people are living beyond their means by the use of same but the costs on everything have risen exponentially. Reason, Government meddling is the primary cause of the devalued dollar but the "UNIONS" you are praising is the other culprit. Why are the middle class paying 40,000 to 70,000 thousand for a car that can be built for less than 10,000 dollars. So the UNIONS can pay their benefit program liabilities of the future. Do you not see who the real Mr. Hyde is here; if not perhaps we need lights in that rabbit hole. Last but not least, you have bought into the 1% and corporations as being evil; they are not evil they are successful by using the laws and tax codes set up by our government which are available to all of us. What is evil is that government sets the rules, regulates everything and then tells you who to blame. What is sad or flabbergasting is that we blindly follow.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:28:47   #
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I am totally opposed to minimum wage of any sort because it represents government meddling in private businesses. Commerce left alone levels out with the employee making himself valuable to the employer and the employer recognizing that value and paying to keep that value. Government meddling screws up that premise, makes value "f**e", and causes a rise in the cost of practically all things. Everything in the nation is overpriced today ...........solely because of government meddling.


Tasine, while I agree with most of what was in your post I highlighted above what I feel is most important.;Government meddling.
To make my point when I was a bit younger my mother gave me Twenty-Five cents and I bought a ticket to the Movie Theater, bought a drink, popcorn and a candy bar; today that same experience will cost you Twenty-Five dollars.
The point of that story is to show the value of money today compared to yesterday and I feel most here are missing the point by simply saying what is obvious to most and that is " I need more money to do what I want to do" when the real problem is the devaluation of our dollar. Yes, a lot of time has passed and things cost more now but why. This may be above most pay grades here on OPP but the simple cause is in 1971 Nixon took us off the Gold Standard. Since that happened the U.S.A. has been on an economic decline in all areas. Bottom line, we could continue to blame the 1% but with the debt and devaluation of the dollar you simply can't give people enough money to overcome "Government Meddling"
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Mar 28, 2015 20:16:42   #
Haughty Lib wrote:
It's sad that someone who made such great professional strides is gonna go down in the History books not as the first neurosurgon to successfully separate conjoined twins at the head, to people asking if he experimented on himself and if that's what turned him so bat$#!t crazy-stupid?

At best, he'll be one of those early geniuses who we discover had serious mental health problems developing all along.

If he has people who truly love him, they should stop him for making a complete and utter fool of himself.

People are already starting to laugh at him

This is going to erase many of his past accomplishments and people will be asking how and why the AMA allowed such a crazy creep get by them for so long.

It's really sad. For his own sake, I hope he stays out.
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What's sad is the fact that your incapable of using logic to even attempt to understand or examine options of someone who perhaps thinks differently from yourself. That actually says more about you than the plethora of meaningless words above designed to cast doubts on a good and honorable man.
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Mar 25, 2015 21:01:17   #
funguy1949 wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I'm 100% behind you lead the way or move aside.I've said this also let the state who elected these ass wips govern them,pay them for what there worth which an't much an if they don't toe the line send them packing an elect new ones who will make good decissions for the people who elected them.


As I said the e*****rate has to get behind this movement in numbers sufficient to cause concern for those in Washington. The lead of everyone here is to contact the "Convention of States" local chapter in your area and get involved. People on OPP don't want to get involved they just want to b***h and moan and blame the other party. Another social media outlet where nothing is accomplished. It really sickens me.
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Mar 25, 2015 00:15:32   #
RETW wrote:
The List: The 75 House Republicans Who V**ed To Fund Obama's Unconstitutional Amnesty Decree






Benishek, Bishop (MI) Boehner, Bost, Brooks (IN), Buchanan, Calvert, Carter (TX), Coffman, Cole, Collins (NY), Comstock, Costello (PA), Curbelo (FL), Davis, Rodney, Denham, Dent, Diaz-Balart, Dold, Ellmers (NC), Emmer (MN), Fitzpatrick, Frelinghuysen, Gibson, Granger, Guinta, Hanna, Hardy, Heck (NV), Hurd (TX), Jolly, Katko, King (NY), Kinzinger (IL), Kline, Knight, Lance, LoBiondo, MacArthur, McCarthy, McCaul, McHenry, McMorris Rogers, McSally, Meehan, Miller (MI), Moolenaar, Murphy (PA), Noem, Nunes, Paulsen, Pittenger, Pitts, Poliquin, Reichert, Rogers (KY), Ros-Lehtinen, Royce, Ryan (WI), Scalise, Schock, Shimkus, Simpson, Smith (NJ), Stefanik, Stivers, Thompson (PA), Tiberi, Trott, Turner, Upton, Valadao, Walden, Walters, Young (IN)

Why are they even called republicans?

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We will never fix Washington; its too far down the curve to salvage. I have told everyone here on OPP for years now to back "The Convention of States" which puts the power back in the individual states control through Article 5 of the Constitution. I was told then how that would never work because it would take too long. If that is factual then lets take a close look at what we have accomplished in reducing the stranglehold of Washington on us during the last six years. Boy; that's really working for us, right. Point being; we the e*****rate must get behind the movement before anything will happen or we will be sitting here twenty years from now having the same conversation.
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Feb 25, 2015 21:57:26   #
robert66 wrote:
Law schools are a good place to look for something like this. This is a type of question that has and is looked at frequently because of the lack of definition in the constitution. The supreme court has not ruled on it as far as I know. Still with the 3 mentioned people , who are in Congress thinking they are eligible to run , does say something in itself.


AuntiE is much too kind to self serving mental midgets like yourself. How can you get it wrong so many times in one short paragraph. 1) Law schools do not make laws. 2) The SCOTUS decision in Minor vs Habersett rendered 1875 explains Natural Born Citizen. 3) The three people referenced are not all in Congress. 4) If they were, do you really think that qualifies them as all knowing; perhaps not.
I attempted to ignore you but simply ran out of patience, and I apologize now for my shortcomings. What will you do for yours?
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Feb 15, 2015 19:57:18   #
PeterS wrote:
Isn't that what you should have been doing all along. I was taught that if you believe in Christ he will protect you. Hasn't that always been enough?


Not when your nation turns its back on him. He blessed us in the past because we believed and lived mostly in his image but that's simply not the case anymore. So suffer the consequences.
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Feb 15, 2015 19:52:46   #
PeterS wrote:
How so? Will knowing who is being k**led and who our bombs k**l make blood shoot out my eyes? They're all Muslims, ISIS, and therefore evil so we are justified in k*****g them right? Isn't that what Christ says--do on to others before they can do on to you? So even god supports the blood letting and is mad at Obama and evil liberal because not enough blood is spurting out of peoples eyes! It sounds like the only blood spurting is going to come from others and hopefully we get all the children too--so they don't grow up and become the next ISIS, am I right?
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You got it Jose!!
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Feb 15, 2015 19:19:52   #
J Anthony wrote:
She would never win, not with her ignorant, d******e attitude. Romney lost because he is out of touch with the average American and wrote half of them off as moochers. Exactly the same narrow view this poster has. Everything is a liberal-c*******t plot, right, and this is what year? Most people are sick to death of the political d******eness and perpetual warfare. And I don't care for the concept of political correctness either, who cares about that. What's important is trying to solve some problems and cooperation. The attitude of, "It's not me, it's them! I'm a real American, they're not! I'll h**e whoever i want!" is childish and a complete obstacle to progress. We all have responsibility for this ship-of-state.
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J, I h**e to break it to you but the 47% Romney was referring to are the ones not paying taxes with many of the same living off the Governments dole or food stamps or both. He was not out of touch, just stating facts. The d******eness you referred to has been compounded by Obamas actions, do you not see that. His precise agenda, I'm not exactly sure of but, we will see shortly. I do agree we all need to pull together and perhaps it will take another 9/11 to accomplish that end but until then the dye is set. We are as divided as I have ever seen us and that is by Obama's design. Anyway, That's the way I see it.
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Feb 15, 2015 00:40:11   #
Mollypitcher1 wrote:
Thanks Guys, We have to continue fighting the Liberals who are destroying Freedom and pushing us into C*******m and one party rule. We have to throw their words back at them and fight them with every tool at our disposal. We lost the last e******n because our guy was too nice. He was too much of a gentleman to deliver the k**ler blow when he had Obama on the ropes and blew it in the final Debate. Enough of the nice guy routine. We need somebody this time around who is Red, White and Blue American and STREET SMART! And I'm coming closer and closer to my decision of who I want that to be.
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Molly, I agree with much of what you say and I too am getting closer to that decision but what I fear is when the frontrunner becomes clear the Liberal attack dogs will strike with a vengeance. They are like a pack of wolves that continue to tear at you until you run out of will to defend yourself. That's what happened to Romney, remember when he had Obama on the ropes and Candy Crawley came to his aid with a lie. The MSM is hard to overcome with their unquestioned credibility gap unchallenged by the uninformed v**er. A lot of un's there. I totally agree we need the Junk Yard Dog nominee but the Establishment will never allow that. Maybe I'm wrong; hope so, we will see.
Nevertheless, I like your demeanor. Perhaps you should put your name in the hat you have my v**e.
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