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Oct 4, 2020 22:40:44   #
America 1 wrote:
Ilhan Omar takes a victory lap after Trump tests positive for C****-**
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ilhan-omar-takes-a-victory-lap-after-trump-tests-positive-for-c****-**?utm_source=deployer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Beltway+Confidential&utm_term=PostUp+Opens&utm_content=20201003141822


Quite inappropriate of her to make such a display, much like a comment I recall her making shortly after being elected to congress and no less inappropriate. That said, there has been an ongoing feud between her and Trump for just as long, most recently, on about the 1st of October or so, Trump unleashed a xenophobic attack on her at a rally in Minnesota. Of course since he is now sick with c***d19... One really shouldn't kick another when they are down, it is in quite poor taste. Furthermore, much can be said on the positive aspects of taking the high road, if one can manage doing so. It would seem she may not be capable, that is of course supposing that she has even tried to.
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Oct 4, 2020 21:29:35   #
Rose42 wrote:
SSDD? Gee, I wonder how you came up with that one.


What "one"? My Nom De Guerre?
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Oct 4, 2020 21:25:33   #
moldyoldy wrote:
You reminded me of Harris grilling Barr using those words.


I haven't seen that "interrogation", too much to do too often, I miss a lot of the "happenings" even locally.
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Oct 4, 2020 21:17:38   #
JFlorio wrote:
You are just plain dumb. Country is in a shambles because of C***d. We still have the best economy of any G7 country. You can't have it both ways. You cannot have a vibrant economy and a country wide shutdown at the same time. See N.Y.. Your problem is you aren't very astute economically and can't even Google the nature of v***s's apparently. You would never win a debate because you are just a little soy boy having a tantrum. Another progressive waste of air.


It can be argued that had Trump NOT downplayed the severity of the threat, either pushed for a federal shutdown, mask mandates, social distancing mandates and perhaps state-state travel restrictions or strongly encouraged for each and every state to enact their own shutdowns and mask/social distancing mandates until such time as they had the numbers down in their own states and the outbreak in their states at an easily manageable level over a reasonable period of time before slowly and cautiously opening back up coupled with travel restrictions (at least with states that haven't gotten v***s cases under control yet). We took to long shutting down, many states didn't restrict travel between states, Trump downplayed the threat the whole way through, he pressured the states to open back up too aggressively and well sooner than we should have. That is the likely reason we are taking so long in getting a proper handle on this p******c quite as quickly as most every other industrialized nation.

Yes, the economy suffered during the shutdown and would have suffered more if we had kept it shut down longer, it would have suffered more if we had more strongly encouraged staying home unless absolutely necessary, but had we done the shutdown right and waited until appropriate before re-opening and conducted the re-opening properly, cases and deaths would have been greatly reduced and while the economy would have taken a greater hit, I believe it's rebound would likely be further along by this date than it is as it stands.

I also believe that, as much as getting kids back into the classrooms is an important step, it is likely going to extend the duration of our own national c***d19 p******c. perhaps a better approach may have been to gather small batches of kids into socially distanced online learning centers to enable working parents to return to work, allow the children to socialize while at same time minimize the number of other students they come into contact with to reduce the odds of contracting c***d19 and make it easier to contain any resulting outbreaks. Additionally, it would create more jobs temporarily as each "learning center" will require someone to supervise, though that would also increase the costs during that period of time, before we determined it was safe to go back to regular classrooms/schooling, but IF it gets us back to normal faster and safer, gets the economy back to c***d-free normalcy faster, it may just be well worth it.
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Oct 4, 2020 20:16:23   #
Simple Sam wrote:
Between 2008 and 2016, over 7,000 Americans died in the Middle East. Something that obama could have avoided. From 2017 to now, 96 have died. In 2019, a v***s created and released on the world came into the USA. Trump did everything the WHO and CDC recommended. Yet, this v***s has taken 200,000 lives. Swine flu, the obama p******c, k**led 166,000 Americans. I did not see anyone calling him a murder because a v***s slipped into the USA.


It would seem that you may have accidentally mixed up your numbers a bit here. The 166,000 figure appears in a USA TODAY article titled "Fact check: 2009 swine flu spread rapidly, but C****-** is more deadly" posted Aug. 13, 2020 where it states that as of the time of the article's posting, the U.S. had 166,000 deaths to c***d19. It compared that figure to it's reporting of 12,500 (12,469 according to Wikipedia as of Aug. 10. 2010 when WHO declared the global swine flu p******c over and done with) U.S. deaths due to the 2009 swine flu.

Such a mistake is easy to make.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-swine-flu-spread-rapidly-but-not-deadly-c****-**/5577001002/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_p******c_in_the_United_States
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Oct 4, 2020 01:57:36   #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I didn't say that was rules for radicals. I stated that Alinsky proposed Socialist government and that those points were the main steps toward Socialism. If you think Alinsky didn't advocate Socialism, then we have a ways to go. You libs are always asking for the t***h but never telling it. Pretty typical for the left.


Okay then, prove that he has ANY connection to your list. And by "prove", I do mean ACTUAL proof, not more memes or alt-right message board posts/tweets/alt-right media articles, real proof only. Preferred sources would be something like reference sources, interviews (unaltered only), videos of him speaking (unaltered only) or any RELIABLE source.


Edit; Other acceptable sources are any of his writings (unaltered only) as well.
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Oct 4, 2020 00:46:28   #
4430 wrote:
I did not deny it at all !

This was a quote in an article which you apparently you aren't smart enough and unable to comprehend so I posted it again but I doubt you have mind enough to understand !

Can you tell the difference from recommend which you claimed and suggested as the article mentioned ? Apparently not !

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US President Donald Trump has been lambasted by the medical community after suggesting research into whether c****av***s might be treated by injecting disinfectant into the body.
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I did not deny it at all ! br br This was a quote... (show quote)



Yes, yes, please enlighten us, what IS the difference between suggest and recommend? Most people consider the two words as interchangeable and either synonymous or nearly synonymous, including reference sources.

Example, can one not put forth a recommendation just as easily as they can put forth a suggestion?


https://www.freethesaurus.com/recommend
https://www.freethesaurus.com/suggest
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Oct 3, 2020 23:47:16   #
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Is this something we should be reviewing?


Saul David Alinsky was an American community organizer and writer.
He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community
organizing. He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able
to create a social state. The first is the most important.


1) Healthcare--Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty--Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor
people are easier to control and will not fight back if you
are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt--Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are
able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control--Remove the ability to defend themselves from the
government. That way you are able to create a
police state.

5) Welfare--Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing,
and Income)

6) Education--Take control of what people read and listen to--take
control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion--Remove the belief in the God from the Government and
schools.

8) Class Warfare--Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor.
This will cause more discontent and it will be easier
to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


DOES ANY of THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?
Is this something we should be reviewing? br br ... (show quote)


Yes, it sounds all too familiar, Trump apologists making things up again. Too bad it isn't true huh?

Here is Saul Alinsky's ACTUAL "Rules for Radicals";

Always remember the first rule of power tactics: Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is: Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can k**l them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule: A tactic that d**gs on too long becomes a d**g. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying “You’re right — we don’t know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us.”

The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.


So... When can we expect the t***h from you people?
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Oct 3, 2020 15:09:22   #
John Meoff wrote:
I have sent this posting to the administration with a complaint. I request that all OPP members do the same.


Why? What did they say that was worthy of reporting? Should I break down what they said for you? Okay, will do.

Geo wrote:
Trump has C****-**? Maybe, maybe not, You can't believe anything the Piece Of Sh*t says.
I would not be surprised if he was dodging the next debates, he can't keep control of his mouth and that looks bad for the POS.


This portion seems to be saying that Trump either got C***d19 or is lying about it. Nothing here worthy of reporting someone over really, unless you consider questioning the word of someone that lies frequently offensive.


Geo wrote:
If he does have c****-** then, It couldn't have happened to a better person. Before you get your skivvies in a twist, don't worry, Trump knows he has nothing to worry about, he's said himself its only the sniffles, just a cold, nothing to worry about should disappear in a few days and he'll be fine.


Nothing to report here either, Trump himself has said all along that C***d19 is nothing to worry about, if this is true, Trump has nothing to worry about, right?

Geo wrote:
If he's wrong and Satan takes his soul sooner than later, then we won't have to worry about his attempt to take America by unlawful means or military c**p. We won't be seeing Putin's military coming on to our shores to give Trump the aid he requested. There won't be a long battle to stay in power and he won't have to worry about New York State charging him with income tax fraud.


Here it seems to be merely stating that IF what Trump revealed to Bob Woodward back in February, that C***d19 is serious and deadly, before AND during the same time frame that Trump told average Americans that C***d19 ISN'T anything to worry about is the ACTUAL t***h and C***d19 IS something to worry about... Well... That would be karma wouldn't it be? If someone goes about telling others that something deadly isn't anything to worry about and then they later pay the price, well, that CAN be considered well earned karma, which is not to say that I or anybody is celebrating Trump getting C***d19 or wishing that he dies from it, merely that he has earned wh**ever comes of it.

Trump has claimed, AFTER it was discovered that he knew all along that C***d19 was in fact something to worry about, that he played it down to avoid inciting panic, he could have chosen to warn that it was a serious matter and inform average Americans on how to try to remain safe without creating panic and that is what a TRUE leader does, he chose to downplay it, not a very good show of leadership in my book or in the books of any TRUE American. TRUE leaders lead by example.

Trump chose to politicize the v***s, extolling against the wearing of masks, social distancing and every other recommendation of the experts, that is d******e. He pit conservatives against liberals and science, TRUE leaders don't do that. He made no effort to encourage America to enact and comply with measures that would keep Americans safe and minimize the spread of C***d19, he in fact discouraged it at every turn. Had he actually been a TRUE leader, America wouldn't be in the state it is in at this point.

The takeaway in this is this, C***d19 IS serious, please ensure that you and those you care about stay safe.
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Sep 30, 2020 03:02:41   #
RandyBrian wrote:
Here's a small, unimportant, but recent example of the standards and ethics of your 'quality' newspaper:

The New York Times and NPR covered the same story on Sunday when a liberal activist was caught on video plowing a car through a group of Trump supporters, but the liberal newspaper omitted a key detail that NPR and other outlets managed to divulge.
Tatiana Turner was charged with attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon after she allegedly tried to plow through a group of pro-Trump demonstrators.
“A prolonged confrontation between Black L***s M****r and pro-Trump demonstrators outside Los Angeles turned violent Saturday, as someone drove a car through the pro-Trump group. The driver has been charged with attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon,” NPR’s Matthews Schwartz wrote.
“Police say the driver in Saturday's incident was a member of the so-called ‘Caravan for Justice,’ which organized the Black L***s M****r protest.”
Over at the Gray Lady, the same story had a remarkably different framing.
“A woman was charged with attempted murder after the car she was driving struck two people during a demonstration for racial justice in California that clashed with a counterprotest on Saturday, the authorities said,” Times reporter Marie Fazio wrote without ever mentioning that Turner targeted Trump supporters.
After mentioning the victim did not suffer life-threatening injuries, The Times reported that “it was unclear whether they were part of the Caravan4Justice group or the counterprotest group because both groups had converged at the time.”

But NPR’s report featured video that showed the victims were clearly Trump supporters, as many were waving f**gs and wearing Trump merchandise.

The New York Daily News also reported what the Times failed to mention and featured the headline, “California driver plows through pro-Trump rally, charged with attempted murder.”

The Daily Mail also managed to figure out what side of the dueling protests the victims were on.
“A Black L***s M****r organizer has been arrested after video showed her driving a car into a crowd of Trump supporters in southern California, injuring two,” the Daily Mail reported.

The Gray Lady. A true 'no spin zone.' Right?
Here's a small, unimportant, but recent example of... (show quote)


Can we say plagiarism? When one pulls text from another's work, whether in part or in whole, one SHOULD accredit the text to the original writer of those thoughts, but I digress, let's examine the claim. I find it interesting that while denigrating the NYT, Fox themselves left out interesting details, such as, this line from NPR's article, "But while experts see a rise in vehicle attacks coming from right-wing extremists, ". Funny, one might think it would be included as a full paragraph prior and the remaining portion of the paragraph it rests in are included in whole. Of course, to be fair, they also chosen to leave out an entire paragraph in between as well. Allow me to highlight below.

Fox News wrote:
“A prolonged confrontation between Black L***s M****r and pro-Trump demonstrators outside Los Angeles turned violent Saturday, as someone drove a car through the pro-Trump group. The driver has been charged with attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon,” NPR’s Matthews Schwartz wrote.
“Police say the driver in Saturday's incident was a member of the so-called ‘Caravan for Justice,’ which organized the Black L***s M****r protest.”


NPR wrote:
A prolonged confrontation between Black L***s M****r and pro-Trump demonstrators outside Los Angeles turned violent Saturday, as someone drove a car through the pro-Trump group. The driver has been charged with attempted murder and assault with a deadly weapon.

One man suffered two broken legs, and a woman was moderately injured, Orange County Sheriff's officials said. It was the second time since Thursday that Southern California protesters have been injured by a vehicle and it's just the latest vehicle attack of dozens that have been reported since nationwide protests began in May.

But while experts see a rise in vehicle attacks coming from right-wing extremists, police say the driver in Saturday's incident was a member of the so-called "Caravan for Justice," which organized the Black L***s M****r protest.
A prolonged confrontation between Black L***s M***... (show quote)


As you will likely notice, the portion I italicized Is not present in Fox's article, nor is the portion I converted to bold print.

And some say Fox doesn't still spin for Trump or more importantly and more precisely, the GOP, because they have gone liberal. I would think liberals might have included the portion about "But while experts see a rise in vehicle attacks coming from right-wing extremists, ", wouldn't you?

Proof of plagiarism claim by the poster I am replying to AND the claim that Fox News is guilty of the same "crime" they accuse the NYT of;

https://www.foxnews.com/media/car-trump-supporters-ny-times

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/27/917523942/woman-charged-with-attempted-murder-after-driving-into-pro-trump-protesters


Read them both and you shall see. I suppose nobody has told the Murdochs "Judge not, that ye be not judged." (Matthew 7:1 from the KJV) or "Those that live in glass houses ought not throw stones" (fairly well known idiom).


In the spirit of full disclosure though, RandyBrian didn't plagiarize his ENTIRE post. Below are RandyBrian's contributions to his own post.

RandyBrian wrote:
Here's a small, unimportant, but recent example of the standards and ethics of your 'quality' newspaper:



RandyBrian wrote:


The Gray Lady. A true 'no spin zone.' Right?



In the spirit of fuller disclosure, he kinda stole the "The Gray Lady" part from the very article he snatched the "scandal" and the text concerning the "scandal" from, go figure.

Fox News wrote:
...Over at the Gray Lady, the same story had a remarkably different framing....
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Sep 30, 2020 01:44:07   #
Marty 2020 wrote:
Ok I’ll bite.
Whachya got?


Sorry, have been somewhat busy lately. It would seem that the "thrown away" b****ts MAY be due to a lawsuit filed by Trump himself.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/09/21/pennsylvania-mail-in-b****t-ruling-could-cause-100000-b****ts-to-be-rejected-official-warns/#2cf3d0004be7


Apparent response by the Democrats;

https://www.fox46.com/news/politics/e******n/democrats-in-pa-scramble-to-limit-number-of-naked-b****ts/


What appears to "confirm" my theory;

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/the-9-discarded-b****ts-were-tossed-because-republicans-won-their-lawsuit-requiring-them-to-not-be-counted-report/


What MAY be the reasoning behind Trump's choosing to insist upon Pennsylvania rejecting "naked b****ts";

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/22/pennsylvania-officials-warn-2000-florida-redux-420275

https://www.axios.com/pennsylvania-naked-b****ts-mail-in-v****g-biden-9bbcf26f-c9d1-49bf-8939-0422242ed36e.html

Democrats are likely to account for the largest bulk of mail-in-b****ts as Republicans are more likely to v**e at their local polling places which could spell disaster for the Democrats as there is likely to be a greater number of "naked b****ts" coming in during this e******n cycle in Pa. If that ends up being the case, then Democrat v**ers will be subject to a disproportionate number of rejected b****ts.



Marty 2020 wrote:
How do you explain the 130% of the registered v**ers, v****g in LA?


I could not find a source making the claim of "130%" though I did manage to find one claiming 112%, though I believe that even that claim is being disputed.

https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/is-v**er-registration-in-los-angeles

In many areas (if not all), there are generally more registered v**ers than there are active, eligible v**ers due to people dying, moving or going inactive, that does not necessarily amount to fraud.





Note; I started this post much closer to your reply but then during the writing I had to halt and take care of much more important matters and as such, I amended to the post the first sentence.


P.S. Sorry about the delay, I sometimes get quite busy and at times, that business can take several days, perhaps longer or I may not remember that I was doing something just before I got so busy, but hey, better late than never.
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Sep 26, 2020 06:16:00   #
JFlorio wrote:
Just tired of the lies and opinions. I gave you proof. If you had an ounce of integrity(which you don't) you'd admit this is going to lead to a big problem. Both sides can c***t at this. Yours is just much better. I've noticed you progressives don't really care much for t***h or facts. When you do post something it's generally another opinion piece from a like minded person.


Hmmm, someone could be in for one hell of a surprise come next news cycle.

If anybody is too impatient to wait for it to come, let me know and perhaps I can slip you a sneak-peek, it's not gonna be "perty".
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