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Jan 8, 2014 21:53:48   #
I'm with you working class stiff. This radical talk of o*******ws and c**ps and Obama Fever? People sure can come up with wacky ideas.
working class stiff wrote:
What's a waste of time is advocating a military c**p. Where in the constitution does it say the military can o*******w the duly elected gov't of the country?
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Jan 8, 2014 21:14:51   #
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Jan 8, 2014 21:11:40   #
You should get prepared to be dissapointed. Threats and posturing like you are is not winning over any body you wish to convert to your twisted idealism. Try to start a civil war and you will surely die. You are a rebel without a cause.
robertdavidhummel wrote:
The WORD that is said behind closed doors is"Allah-Ach-Bar".

Pointedly...We Patriots NEED do something, before the worst case senario... ANOTHER CIVIL WAR...seed is sown by the Anti-American OBAMA...PERIOD.

"Operation Amercan Spring", ...May be the best FIRST Step with... "We the Patriots, REVOKING ..The Power of a SOCIALIST/MARXIST GOVERNMENT... TO WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOVERNMENT MANAGERS"...PERIOD.

Impeachment Options, are essentially "A Day Late and a Dollar Short", and would likely be just another DISTRACTOR, while still ALLOWING Obama's ADMINISTRATION CZAR'S to continue to WREAK HAVOC...enforcing a Rule of Law, Decree's, and Edict's,... WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL Oversight, NOR, Approval... PERIOD.


I would rather endure the Dangers of Freedom than enjoy the Peace of S***ery…PERIOD
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Jan 8, 2014 21:01:27   #
You are obviosly a messed up person with ptsd. you need help. You coming off the way you do does not impress me and you have no Idea what you are saying You say you are a victim so be it Don't victimize others. You are wrong to do that.
ElAku wrote:
And you're part of the multi-billion graft machine of courts, police, prosecution, prisons, pardon and parole systems!

Had I not been a victim, I wouldn't know! Try Indiana 45289 ... until the process of extermination got all you bastard's attention! All duly documented ...

The pittances you throw around do NOT impress me one damned bit!
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Jan 8, 2014 08:10:54   #
I am a construction contractor so I feel the heartbeat of the economy up close and personal. I went thru the Un regulated banking years making money hand over fist and the starvation of the first two years of economic collapse. We have been comming back for 2 years now. We have turned the corner and I hope for a more stable economic future.
ldsuttonjr wrote:
The U.S. economy might finally bounce back for good in 2014, springboarding the nation out of five years of stagnation. So if you feel like we're still in a recession, are you imagining things?

Not at all. In fact, some economists think we’re in a kind of faux recovery that masks deep harm still being done to the economic prospects of millions of Americans. Brad DeLong, an economist at the University of California, Berkeley, and a government policymaker during the Clinton administration, wrote recently that, “unless something returns the U.S. to its pre-2008 growth trajectory, future economic historians will not regard the Great Depression as the worst business-cycle disaster of the industrial age. It is we who are living in their worst case.”

Worse than the Depression? By most measures, the economy has been weak since 2008, but not nearly as ruinous as in the 1930s. But DeLong has crunched some numbers in a way that helps explain why many people still feel they’re falling behind, even with an economy that has supposedly been growing every year since 2010.

GDP began to decline in 2008, and it wasn’t until 2010 that it reclaimed the 2008 peak. Adjusted for inflation, GDP peaked in 2007 and didn’t reach that level again until 2011. DeLong goes one step further, adjusting GDP for both inflation and population growth, to capture the state of the economy most people actually feel. By that measure, real (inflation-adjusted) GDP growth per capita won’t reach the 2007 peak until sometime in 2014.

A lower output

The growth in real economic output per person has averaged about 2% per year for the past century. So if growth has been essentially zero for the past seven years, says DeLong, output is 14% lower than it would have been had the economy been growing at normal rates.

Such statements tend to leave ordinary people wondering, “So what?” But DeLong has addressed the so-what question. That output gap, he says, amounts to about $9,000 per person each year in terms of money not spent on goods and services that could have made people’s lives better. That’s roughly equal to a year’s worth of mortgage payments on a $200,000 home. For a family of four, the lost output adds up to about $36,000 per year — the equivalent of a fully loaded Ford Fusion sedan. And the per capita output gap is likely to get even bigger if growth continues on the current trendline.

That doesn’t mean everybody would have automatically become wealthier if not for the 2008 financial meltdown and corresponding recession. Median incomes had been stagnant for nearly a decade by the time the recession hit, on account of factors such as globalization and the digital revolution. The divide between haves and have-nots had been widening, too, with highly sk**led technocrats generally prospering and lower-sk**led workers in fading industries falling behind, perhaps never to catch up.

Even if that $9,000 in per capita output hadn’t disappeared, it wouldn’t have been divided evenly among all Americans. The wealthy probably would have captured more of it, the poor less. And it’s always tricky accounting for what didn’t happen, since it’s impossible to know what else might have occurred to make things better or worse.

But DeLong’s calculations help explain the sense of backsliding many Americans seem to feel. In 2007, during the prior peak for real GDP, the Conference Board’s consumer-confidence index was around 91. Today, with the total level of real GDP higher, it’s at 78. Back then, 27% of poll respondents told Gallup they were satisfied with the way things are going in the United States; in the latest poll, only 20% felt this way.

Still, it could be worse. A recent study by two prominent Harvard economists, Ken Rogoff and Carmen Reinhart, found financial crises such as the one that erupted in 2008 usually produce worse downturns than what we’ve experienced. Rogoff and Reinhart are controversial because of some mathematical errors in a previous study of debt-ridden nations, but they are still considered premier chroniclers of finanicial panics. And on average, they find, such panics cut per-capita real GDP by 9%, requiring 6.7 years for the economy to recover. The latest crisis, by their account, caused only a 5% decline in GDP, followed by a six-year recovery.

So take heart: Had the 2008 crisis been a more like a “normal” one, your family might have lost a Mercedes rather than a Ford.
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Jan 8, 2014 08:00:00   #
Brian speaks the t***h. You can't impeach a president because he is a democrat has an arabic name or a heart instead of a hard-nosed attitude.
Brian Devon wrote:
Forced resignation? The way President Obama will leave office, is by expiration of his term. Removal requires impeachment by the house, then conviction by the senate. Odds of that happening: slim and none. Slim just left town. Number of presidents impeached, convicted, and removed in this nation (since its creation in 1789) remains at ZERO! President Obama will leave the White House on Jan. 17,2017 at noon, when his successor takes the oath of office. Circle that date on your calendar.
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Jan 8, 2014 00:31:12   #
love Florida orange juice it is the very best.
astrolite wrote:
It is our busy season down here, the construction industry is booming again, even with a lack of sk**led sub contractors, (they left and didn't come back) or are at home playing the X Box and doing drugs on the taxpayers' dollar! Most of the homes being built are in Gated Communities, and over 1 million dollars! The newly retired bureaucrats and bankers that stole themselves rich! "Keep Florida Green, bring money!" I am in agriculture, and aviation, not construction, but now is our winter vegetable season too.
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Jan 8, 2014 00:12:07   #
You know your trucks. Hope your buisness picks up. I'm contractor so I know how it is I'm getting by can't wait for summer when the money machine comes back on line. Best of luck to you
astrolite wrote:
Yeah, I own three, but these days am using only one. Business is slow! I also have a 1700 IH 4X4 flatbed dump to pull trailers, It does have air brakes! The axle flanges are different, the axle in the pictures was stripped, even a explosion wouldn't neatly remove the center section differential without even damaging the studs. No nuts visable! Any mechanic could see that that was another s**m!


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Jan 7, 2014 23:50:27   #
I'm going to have to check this out. No airbrakes on an f-350 I own one. No doubt about bunglers thanks for the post
astrolite wrote:
If you remember the first explosion just blew off the trim on the front of the building, McVeigh placed his truck in a loading ramp, below the ground level, (he is recorded as saying "I don't know why it didn't blow the whole building" it took a whole minute for someone to trigger the second charges taped to the columns inside the FBI and BATF offices! (as proven by 5 separate seismograph recordings) The government did a sloppy job, some charges were still on the columns, long enough to be photographed by Gen Partin. Other things don't add up also! An axle was shown in the papers, purported to have been from McVeigh's truck, The truck was a F350 Ford Box truck, no air brakes like the axle had? SOF magazine exposed everything!
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Jan 7, 2014 23:19:50   #
I thought of theft and illegal drug sales as a source of funding.I know of a case several years ago in Oregon where 1500 pounds of dynamite was stolen from a gravel pit in Montana and a month later was wired up on the backside of the Union county court house.The mission failed. The idea was a diversion so they could rob all the banks in LaGrande Oregon and retire in the Caribeans
Ve'hoe wrote:
I too, wonder that. Simply from the logistics of putting it all together,,, those two stooges are not hardly believable. And from what I know of explosives,,, if asked to blow the murah bldg. down, and get those results, I wouldn't have chosen fertilizer,,, as the explosive,,, just too much left to chance.
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Jan 7, 2014 22:24:50   #
Get off carolyns case She is on the right side of this issue
ElAku wrote:
You're only overlooking one point: the entire Justice System, including courts, police, prosecution, prisons, pardon and parole is nothing more than a Masonic, Knights of Columbus and Temple Israel GRAFT MACHINE worth billions of dollars!

The 'average' cost per prisoner is now some $50,000.00 per year! Yet they make their own clothes, grow their own food, and scads of other commercial products: highway paint, matresses, office furniture ... the list is endless .. and excess farm produce is sold on the open market. So where the hell does all that money go?

Follow the money, until they lock you up too to silence your findings ...
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Jan 7, 2014 22:21:12   #
Shut up about the Knights of Columbus. We are a charity group. I live in a small town and every year we give out two weeks worth of food per family in a christmas basket to over 1100 familys. we also fund homes for unwed mothers who might have gotten a******ns without our help. we feed the hungry and tend to the sick and when we have money it goes to charity.
ElAku wrote:
You're only overlooking one point: the entire Justice System, including courts, police, prosecution, prisons, pardon and parole is nothing more than a Masonic, Knights of Columbus and Temple Israel GRAFT MACHINE worth billions of dollars!

The 'average' cost per prisoner is now some $50,000.00 per year! Yet they make their own clothes, grow their own food, and scads of other commercial products: highway paint, matresses, office furniture ... the list is endless .. and excess farm produce is sold on the open market. So where the hell does all that money go?

Follow the money, until they lock you up too to silence your findings ...
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Jan 7, 2014 21:26:54   #
[thats a good question where did the money come from?quote=carolyn]If I knew would I even be discussing it with a left-wing liberal such as yourself? And I am hoping someone with a little more common sense can help me with the answer that has plagued me for so long. Was there someone with a bankroll that had something on these men that would cause them to do such a dastardly deed? The only thing I am saying is where did these two relatively penniless scapegoats get the money to carry on such a long extended plot such as the Oklahoma City bombing? Neither one had the funds to carry on such a project, so who was it that financed their project? Did this question not even cross the federal government's minds? They can't possibly be that inept.[/quote]
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Jan 7, 2014 20:56:37   #
V**e no matter what or who just v**e and v**e with your conscience.
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Jan 7, 2014 19:59:15   #
fed to hogs :thumbup:
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