OK PeterS - we get it. Like most gun control proponents, you believe we live in a world where if the government decrees it the people will obey. I think the good folks in cities with very strict gun laws (Chicago?) might call you naive. In theory if no one carries a semi-auto the world is a better place. Of course in that world the criminals wouldn't think of breaking the law - wait then they'd be law-abiding citizens...Hmmm. So I can agree with your theory but unless you've passed on the red pill you need to agree that the world you envision hasn't existed in...oh...just about forever.

So we can assume that you own no power tools and you get where you need to go on a bicycle? The bottom line is that if I'm protecting myself or my family the thought of making it "sporting" isn't part of the equation.

All good points.

. Looked at some videos. Seecamp is interesing. Slightly larger, Ruger LCP II gives you 6+1 or 7+1 .380 and locks back after last round. Weight is about the same. Trigger pull is much lighter. Problem with small pistols is hollow point performance is iffy. Rather have either one than nothing.

AND you survived without taking a life. So glad you had the means to defend yourself and that things worked out as they did. End of discussion as far as I'm concerned.
[Footnote: Glock 33!! Good thing your attacker didn't press the issue]

Man, that was substantive. But I guess that's to be expected because for anything I could bring up in favor of President Trump, you could counter with something in favor of President Obama. And since more of the major media outlets lean toward the left, I doubt you'd ever run out of material - so let's change course a bit and I'll state for the record that I know my life (and future outlook) is far better now than it would have been had Hillary Clinton been elected. And that's the t***h [quoting Edith Ann]

If you think that people only own guns because they're compensating for something else, then we're glad you and your unarmed friends remain so.

I'm curious Lonewolf. Who do you consider was our greatest President and why?

(rimshot)

Definitely food for thought. Good luck to you Richard, the path you've chosen will not be an easy one - but I'm certain it will be rewarding.

Great stuff Oldsailor65. Love the one about "Donald Trump Lives Here" on the back of the $20.

I agree with you right up to that first period. And I'll grant you that because previous administrations allowed it to happen, NATO members paid what they felt like paying for defense while dumping enormous sums into social programs and infrastructure. But it's a little silly for me to want MY tax dollars to be spent in this way when I'd rather have a situation where NATO members paid a fair share allowing more of my money to go toward US interests. Call me selfish - I can live with that.

Well...without getting into too much detail

How about reports (on liberal and conservative websites) that the Pentagon cannot account for about $6.5 trillion
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/07/31/Pentagon-s-Sloppy-Bookkeeping-Means-65-Trillion-Can-t-Pass-Audit

Or you could go back to all the reports about $100 claw hammers and $600 toilet seats
http://www.scragged.com/articles/yes-virginia-a-298-hammer-really-costs-our-government-100

Or you could talk about weapon systems failures or huge cost overruns
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthompson/2011/12/19/how-to-waste-100-billion-weapons-that-didnt-work-out/#597629fc1cb5

And during my 8 years in the Army as an NCO I saw up close and personal how wasteful the procurement system was and how willing approved vendors were to take advantage of the situation.

Forgive me. Since there are countless examples to support what I said, I didn't think making reference to any would be necessary - but there you go.

I'm a conservative. I love the country that I served. I support our president. But I'm not blind to mistakes made by both Republican and Democrat administrations. Blindly following ANY person, group, or movement is a fools errand.

UPDATE - Almost forgot "off the books" projects (aka "black budget")
https://www.wired.com/1995/11/patton/

I don't know Kev...certainly NOT the kind of anal retentive jackass who speaks like you do with a tagline that in part reads - "kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous."

But Trooper745 - Kev's posts all have this as a tagline:

"Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge."

So certainly wh**ever he says is empirically verified scientific knowledge - right?